Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-14 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 12 October 2009 21:13:26 I wrote:

 Even allowing for the smiley, this isn't true. English makes perfect sense
 to me.

Since then my ISP's been playing silly beggars and cocked up my mail delivery 
so that I received nothing at all. It's fixed now but anything sent to the 
list meanwhile I haven't seen. Sorry for this, but it really wasn't my fault 
this time.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-13 Thread Dale
Neil Walker wrote:
 Dale wrote:
   
 Living on disability sucks,
 
 So why do you?

   
 If the skin doesn't bother them, the income part does.
 

 You really don't have to be living like that if you don't
 want to. It's entirely your choice. Drop me an email at
 neil-at-neiljw.net if you want to change things. :)


 Be lucky,

 Neil
 http://www.neiljw.com


   

It's a lot more complicated than that. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote:
   
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
 On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote:
   
 On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote:
 
 KH schrieb:
   
 Peter Humphrey schrieb:
 
 The difficulty is in keeping up with the
 idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the
 last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies.

 Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.
   
 Hi,

 how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this
 is OT, too.

 kh
 
 To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...
   
 I'm 71 ... is that old enough?
 
 Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do
 I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?
   
 I'm 42 so I got your back.  lol
 

 wow, from your posts I had you sorted at '24 - max, probably 21' ...


   

I'm a kid at heart.  LOL  Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or
so.  http://psoriasis.org  I have most of the things that go with it. 
Going to the Dr is a battle.  I have to sign a AMA to go home.  They
usually bring that after the Dr sees me and I am signing out.  I'm like
that little train, 'I think I can, I think I can.'

Dale

:-)  :-) 





Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 20:21:29 Philip Webb wrote:
 091011 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  Paket = packet ; Paket = package

 Oh dear ! -- English calls such words 'false friends' !
 My German-English dictionary (Langenscheidt) suggests E 'package' = G
 'Pack', while E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'.

 In English, a 'packet' calls to mind something in an envelope, eg a letter;
 'package' brings a picture of something tied up with string, ie a parcel.
 In computer English, a 'package' is eg Gentoo's 'app-arch/bzip2-1.0.5-r1';
 a 'packet' is a fragment of a file sent through the Internet,
 different packets possibly taking different routes to their destination,
 where they are reassembled into the complete file.

More generally, I think of a packet as a unit of something - soap powder, 
data, correspondence - while a package is a bundle of things - programs, 
Christmas presents, packets of sweets.

No doubt that doesn't accord with any dictionary, but it seems to work.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 21:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote:

 I'm 71 ... is that old enough?

Too much for me - I'm only 66. Working on it though.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote:
 I'm a kid at heart.  LOL  Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or
 so.  http://psoriasis.org  I have most of the things that go with it. 
 Going to the Dr is a battle.  I have to sign a AMA to go home.  They
 usually bring that after the Dr sees me and I am signing out.  I'm like
 that little train, 'I think I can, I think I can.'
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-) 
 

I feel your pain, Dale. My girlfriend has mild eczema and it drives her crazy. 
I can only imagine what dealing with psoriasis must be like.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote:
   
 I'm a kid at heart.  LOL  Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or
 so.  http://psoriasis.org  I have most of the things that go with it. 
 Going to the Dr is a battle.  I have to sign a AMA to go home.  They
 usually bring that after the Dr sees me and I am signing out.  I'm like
 that little train, 'I think I can, I think I can.'

 Dale

 :-)  :-) 

 

 I feel your pain, Dale. My girlfriend has mild eczema and it drives her 
 crazy. 
 I can only imagine what dealing with psoriasis must be like.

   

I am disabled from it.  I had a in law relative once that didn't
understand it and made some comments about me being disabled from it.  I
just raised my shirt a little.  No one else in that family has said a
negative thing about it since. 

I think the pecking order for skin is, eczema, dermatitis then
psoriasis.  I sometimes get the first two backwards tho.  One affects
the first layer of skin, the other affects the top two layers and
psoriasis affects all three.  I usually explain it this way, psoriasis
comes from the inside not the outside.

It has cost me a lot tho.  Living on disability sucks, no kids since I
don't want to pass this on to them, and lets not mention dating.  If the
skin doesn't bother them, the income part does. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 12:13:19 Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote:
  I'm a kid at heart.  LOL  Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or
  so.  http://psoriasis.org  I have most of the things that go with it.
  Going to the Dr is a battle.  I have to sign a AMA to go home.  They
  usually bring that after the Dr sees me and I am signing out.  I'm like
  that little train, 'I think I can, I think I can.'
 
  Dale
 
  :-)  :-)
 
  I feel your pain, Dale. My girlfriend has mild eczema and it drives her
  crazy. I can only imagine what dealing with psoriasis must be like.
 
 I am disabled from it.  I had a in law relative once that didn't
 understand it and made some comments about me being disabled from it.  I
 just raised my shirt a little.  No one else in that family has said a
 negative thing about it since.

All disabled folks have funny stories to relate :-)

I work at an ISP and there's 1 (yes, just one) disabled bay on our entire 
parking level. A disabled colleague uses it but there's a special kind of 
idiot in the building that things his SUV is shaped like a wheelchair (guess 
where he parks).

What he didn't know is that my colleague works in Security. He's the firewall 
admin, the VPN admin, the packeteer admin and all sorts of other admins too. 
It real funny, every day Mr. Special parks in the disabled bay, his internet 
doesn't work.

We're still waiting for the penny to drop. It's hasn't yet :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Monday 12 October 2009 12:13:19 Dale wrote:
   
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
 On Monday 12 October 2009 10:09:52 Dale wrote:
   
 I'm a kid at heart.  LOL  Because of health issues, I feel about 70 or
 so.  http://psoriasis.org  I have most of the things that go with it.
 Going to the Dr is a battle.  I have to sign a AMA to go home.  They
 usually bring that after the Dr sees me and I am signing out.  I'm like
 that little train, 'I think I can, I think I can.'

 Dale

 :-)  :-)
 
 I feel your pain, Dale. My girlfriend has mild eczema and it drives her
 crazy. I can only imagine what dealing with psoriasis must be like.
   
 I am disabled from it.  I had a in law relative once that didn't
 understand it and made some comments about me being disabled from it.  I
 just raised my shirt a little.  No one else in that family has said a
 negative thing about it since.
 

 All disabled folks have funny stories to relate :-)

 I work at an ISP and there's 1 (yes, just one) disabled bay on our entire 
 parking level. A disabled colleague uses it but there's a special kind of 
 idiot in the building that things his SUV is shaped like a wheelchair (guess 
 where he parks).

 What he didn't know is that my colleague works in Security. He's the firewall 
 admin, the VPN admin, the packeteer admin and all sorts of other admins too. 
 It real funny, every day Mr. Special parks in the disabled bay, his internet 
 doesn't work.

 We're still waiting for the penny to drop. It's hasn't yet :-)

   

I don't have the little thing so that I can park in the disabled parking
spot, yet anyway.  I do think it is funny that the guy can make him pay
for parking where he is not supposed to tho.  Down here, they write
tickets and you get to pay a good size fine for that. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 18:01:49 Dale wrote:
  All disabled folks have funny stories to relate :-)
 
  I work at an ISP and there's 1 (yes, just one) disabled bay on our
  entire  parking level. A disabled colleague uses it but there's a special
  kind of idiot in the building that things his SUV is shaped like a
  wheelchair (guess where he parks).
 
  What he didn't know is that my colleague works in Security. He's the
  firewall  admin, the VPN admin, the packeteer admin and all sorts of
  other admins too. It real funny, every day Mr. Special parks in the
  disabled bay, his internet doesn't work.
 
  We're still waiting for the penny to drop. It's hasn't yet :-)
 

 
 I don't have the little thing so that I can park in the disabled parking
 spot, yet anyway.  I do think it is funny that the guy can make him pay
 for parking where he is not supposed to tho.  Down here, they write
 tickets and you get to pay a good size fine for that. 
 
 Dale

I live in the deep south of darkest Africa and we do things differently here 
:-)

The cops can't be bothered with tickets so it's up to property owners to 
police the bays. A mate used to manage a supermarket, and had the usual big 
sign that non-disabled people parking in the bays would have their wheels 
clamped and would have to pay a donation to the disabled society to have them 
unclamped.

One day an idiot refused to pay. So he tried to drive off anyway. In a brand 
new Mercedes. Caused about ZAR15,000 damage to his wheel arches rather than 
admit he was wrong and cough up ZAR200 :-)

Darwin gets them all in the end :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread pk
Alan McKinnon wrote:

 What he didn't know is that my colleague works in Security. He's the firewall 
 admin, the VPN admin, the packeteer admin and all sorts of other admins too. 
 It real funny, every day Mr. Special parks in the disabled bay, his internet 
 doesn't work.

BOFH![1] ;-)

[1] http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Neil Walker
Dale wrote:
 Living on disability sucks,
So why do you?

 If the skin doesn't bother them, the income part does.

You really don't have to be living like that if you don't
want to. It's entirely your choice. Drop me an email at
neil-at-neiljw.net if you want to change things. :)


Be lucky,

Neil
http://www.neiljw.com





Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 21:03:48 pk wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  What he didn't know is that my colleague works in Security. He's the
  firewall admin, the VPN admin, the packeteer admin and all sorts of other
  admins too. It real funny, every day Mr. Special parks in the disabled
  bay, his internet doesn't work.
 
 BOFH![1] ;-)
 
 [1] http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/

Then you should come work where I work. You'll get to read the motds I put on 
the main access server :-)


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:18:04 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 English is a mess. As a language it's worse than a pig's breakfast and
 makes almost no sense whatsoever to non-native speakers. Mind you, it makes
 about as much sense to native speakers as well :-)

Even allowing for the smiley, this isn't true. English makes perfect sense to 
me.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 October 2009 22:13:26 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:18:04 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  English is a mess. As a language it's worse than a pig's breakfast and
  makes almost no sense whatsoever to non-native speakers. Mind you, it
  makes about as much sense to native speakers as well :-)
 
 Even allowing for the smiley, this isn't true. English makes perfect sense
  to me.
 

Come live and work with me for a week. I'll show you the average English 
native speaker that lives outside of the British Isles. You can even listen to 
them.

I dare say you are an exception to the norm, someone who in days gone by would 
have been called an educated man or perhaps a man of letters?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it

This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot
lately to describe software.  I always think is this a new thing or did
they mean 'package'?

I tried doing my own investigation.  Googling software packet returns
mostly software about network monitoring.  Googling software package
returns just what you'd expect.  Yet I've heard a few people lately
describe software as a packet.  Did these people phonetically mis-hear
package as packet? Is this something new?  Sometimes I think to
correct these people but perhaps I'm the one who needs correcting?





Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
  sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it
 
 This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot
 lately to describe software.  I always think is this a new thing or did
 they mean 'package'?
 
 I tried doing my own investigation.  Googling software packet returns
 mostly software about network monitoring.  Googling software package
 returns just what you'd expect.  Yet I've heard a few people lately
 describe software as a packet.  Did these people phonetically mis-hear
 package as packet? Is this something new?  Sometimes I think to
 correct these people but perhaps I'm the one who needs correcting?
 

Paket = packet
Paket = package

too lazy to remember which one is what.



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Justin
Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:58 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 sometimes upstream changes a packet without renaming it
 
 This got me thinking. I've been hearing the word packet used a lot
 lately to describe software.  I always think is this a new thing or did
 they mean 'package'?
 
I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german
words literally into english and as the the german word for package is
Paket they come up with packet.



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Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote:
 I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating
 german
 words literally into english and as the the german word for package is
 Paket they come up with packet.

Oh wow I did not know that.  See I knew it had to have some reasonable
explanation.  Thanks for the education.

-a





Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote:
  I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating
  german
  words literally into english and as the the german word for package is
  Paket they come up with packet.
 
 Oh wow I did not know that.  See I knew it had to have some reasonable
 explanation.  Thanks for the education.


Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is 
less ambiguous than the German equivalent.

I would not have thought it could be done.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Mick
On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote:
  On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote:
   I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating
   german
   words literally into english and as the the german word for package is
   Paket they come up with packet.
 
  Oh wow I did not know that.  See I knew it had to have some reasonable
  explanation.  Thanks for the education.

 Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is
 less ambiguous than the German equivalent.

 I would not have thought it could be done.

Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of 
network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and 
computers) which is routable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology)

The word packet also has other meanings like: a 'small amount of', a 'package 
of' and can be used in the context of money (one's salary or earnings), 
crisps, condoms, chewing-gums, etc.

Therefore the word packet can be ambiguous in English too, if the context in 
which it is mentioned is not known.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 17:50:37 Mick wrote:
 On Sunday 11 October 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 11 October 2009 13:22:48 Albert Hopkins wrote:
   On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:18 +0200, Justin wrote:
I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating
german
words literally into english and as the the german word for package
is Paket they come up with packet.
  
   Oh wow I did not know that.  See I knew it had to have some reasonable
   explanation.  Thanks for the education.
 
  Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that
  is less ambiguous than the German equivalent.
 
  I would not have thought it could be done.
 
 Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of
 network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and
 computers) which is routable:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology)
 
 The word packet also has other meanings like: a 'small amount of', a
  'package of' and can be used in the context of money (one's salary or
  earnings), crisps, condoms, chewing-gums, etc.
 
 Therefore the word packet can be ambiguous in English too, if the context
  in which it is mentioned is not known.

Yes, I know all that. You missed the in-joke :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that is
 less ambiguous than the German equivalent.

 I would not have thought it could be done.

English contains many ambiguities, but if you know the current idiom they all 
disappear, or at least recede. The difficulty is in keeping up with the 
idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years 
or so and to hell with the trendies.

Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH

Justin schrieb:


I would say it is about just to many germans who are translating german
words literally into english and as the the german word for package is
Paket they come up with packet.



Hi,
This is OT:

I am sure I don't have the best English and I do a lot of faults. But in 
Germany *everybody* believes to speak English. Pleas correct things like 
packet / package. Bad translation can cause a lot of problems. (Also one 
can easily see if some news is only translated from English or if the 
network has a man down wherever.) Porsche for example told their 
employees not to use English for their work. Person A translated 
something from German into English and person B had to do it vis versa 
and half of the content was lost somewhere on the way.


Anyway this will become very OT ...

kh



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH

Peter Humphrey schrieb:

The difficulty is in keeping up with the
idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 years 
or so and to hell with the trendies.


Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.



Hi,

how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too.

kh



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH

KH schrieb:

Peter Humphrey schrieb:

The difficulty is in keeping up with the
idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60 
years or so and to hell with the trendies.


Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.



Hi,

how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this is OT, too.

kh


To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Neil Walker
Mick wrote:
 Packet in English is almost always correctly used to denote a format of 
 network transmitted data (in the context of a conversation about IT and 
 computers) which is routable:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packet_(information_technology)

 The word packet also has other meanings like: a 'small amount of', a 'package 
 of' and can be used in the context of money (one's salary or earnings), 
 crisps, condoms, chewing-gums, etc.

 Therefore the word packet can be ambiguous in English too, if the context in 
 which it is mentioned is not known.
   


Errrm .. no ambiguity there.  That is just an illustration of it's use:
a packet of [data] [money (common use pay packet)] [data] [crisps]
[condoms],
[chewing gum] [etc..]


Be lucky,

Neil
http://www.neilwalker.ws





Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Paket = packet ; Paket = package

Oh dear ! -- English calls such words 'false friends' !
My German-English dictionary (Langenscheidt) suggests E 'package' = G 'Pack',
while E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'.

In English, a 'packet' calls to mind something in an envelope, eg a letter;
'package' brings a picture of something tied up with string, ie a parcel.
In computer English, a 'package' is eg Gentoo's 'app-arch/bzip2-1.0.5-r1';
a 'packet' is a fragment of a file sent through the Internet,
different packets possibly taking different routes to their destination,
where they are reassembled into the complete file.

-- 
,,
SUPPORT ___//___,   Philip Webb
ELECTRIC   /] [] [] [] [] []|   Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT`-O--O---'   purslowatchassdotutorontodotca




Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Philip Webb wrote:
 E 'packet' = G 'kleines Pack' or 'Päckchen'.

Sorry, typo : that sb 'kleines Paket' or 'kleine Pack'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:02:07 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Sunday 11 October 2009 15:55:47 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  Well, at least now we know that English contains at least one word that
  is less ambiguous than the German equivalent.
 
  I would not have thought it could be done.
 
 English contains many ambiguities, but if you know the current idiom they
  all disappear, or at least recede. The difficulty is in keeping up with
  the idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the last 60
  years or so and to hell with the trendies.
 
 Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.
 

English is a mess. As a language it's worse than a pig's breakfast and makes 
almost no sense whatsoever to non-native speakers. Mind you, it makes about as 
much sense to native speakers as well :-) I had to take 5 years of Latin study 
in high school to understand how my own mother tongue works. Sad indictment 
for a language wouldn't you say?

I heard once that Perl is modelled after English. Pah! I reckon that's BS - 
Perl makes much too much sense for that. Brainfuck is the one modelled after 
English :-)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote:
 On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote:
  KH schrieb:
   Peter Humphrey schrieb:
   The difficulty is in keeping up with the
   idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the
   last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies.
  
   Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.
  
   Hi,
  
   how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this
   is OT, too.
  
   kh
 
  To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...
 
 I'm 71 ... is that old enough?

Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I now 
have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote:
   
 On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote:
 
 KH schrieb:
   
 Peter Humphrey schrieb:
 
 The difficulty is in keeping up with the
 idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the
 last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies.

 Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.
   
 Hi,

 how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this
 is OT, too.

 kh
 
 To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...
   
 I'm 71 ... is that old enough?
 

 Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do I 
 now 
 have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?

   

I'm 42 so I got your back.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote:
  To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...

 
  I'm 71 ... is that old enough?
  
 
  Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do
  I now  have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?
 

 
 I'm 42 so I got your back.  lol
 
 Dale

Hehe, you can join me in the lucky crowd - people who went to school when 
Pluto was still a planet :-)

But I'm not giving up the nic I use everywhere except mailing lists:

splog: snarky pedantic lazy old git

My 12 year-old figured that out and reckoned it was ahuge joke, so he told his 
mum (my ex). She was decidedly not ... amused 

:-)


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Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH

Peter Ruskin schrieb:

On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote:

KH schrieb:

Peter Humphrey schrieb:

The difficulty is in keeping up with the
idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the
last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies.

Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.

Hi,

how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this
is OT, too.

kh

To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...


I'm 71 ... is that old enough?


To use a trendy idiom: That's cool.

That is a body of acquired knowledge.



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread KH

Alan McKinnon schrieb:

On Sunday 11 October 2009 23:25:02 Dale wrote:

To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...
  

I'm 71 ... is that old enough?


Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do
I now  have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?

  

I'm 42 so I got your back.  lol

Dale


Hehe, you can join me in the lucky crowd - people who went to school when 
Pluto was still a planet :-)

rofl
but same for me and I am only 28.


But I'm not giving up the nic I use everywhere except mailing lists:

splog: snarky pedantic lazy old git

My 12 year-old figured that out and reckoned it was ahuge joke, so he told his 
mum (my ex). She was decidedly not ... amused 


:-)



rofl
Thanks for that mail. Maid me smile for minutes.

kh



Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag 11 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On Sunday 11 October 2009 22:40:31 Peter Ruskin wrote:
  On Sunday 11 October 2009, KH wrote:
  KH schrieb:
  Peter Humphrey schrieb:
  The difficulty is in keeping up with the
  idiom. Personally, I prefer to rely on what I've known for the
  last 60 years or so and to hell with the trendies.
 
  Things like its = belonging to it; it's = it is.
 
  Hi,
 
  how old are you? How is the oldest person on the list? But this
  is OT, too.
 
  kh
 
  To correct myself (shame on me). Who is the oldest ...
 
  I'm 71 ... is that old enough?
 
  Oh dear. I used to call myself an old codger. At a mere sprightly 44, do
  I now have to downgrade myself to still wet behind the ears?
 
 I'm 42 so I got your back.  lol

wow, from your posts I had you sorted at '24 - max, probably 21' ...




Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Mike Edenfield
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote:
 Peter Ruskin schrieb:
  
  I'm 71 ... is that old enough?
  
 To use a trendy idiom: That's cool.

I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning) is
That's hot.

Thus portraying exactly the problem with our language. :x

--K





Re: [gentoo-user] What is a packet? Was: Checksum error

2009-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
091011 Mike Edenfield wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 00:04 +0200, KH wrote:
 Peter Ruskin schrieb:
 I'm 71 ... is that old enough?
 To use a trendy idiom: That's cool.
 I believe the current trendy idiom (with the identical meaning)
 is That's hot. Thus portraying exactly the problem with our language.

The word 'cool' dates from the 1960s -- yes, I'm old enough to remember -- ,
but since the invention of Global Warming, 'hot' has taken over ...

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