Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: that and find https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. More specifically, while Gnome apps could already be written in multiple languages, the libraries bridging those languages to C were cumbersome (and thus buggy) to maintain, and this introspection change is intended to result in a cleanup of that process. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Adam Carteradamcart...@gmail.com wrote: that and find https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. More specifically, while Gnome apps could already be written in multiple languages, the libraries bridging those languages to C were cumbersome (and thus buggy) to maintain, and this introspection change is intended to result in a cleanup of that process. Ohhh, now I see. I thought it was talking about languages like English, Spanish etc. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
Am 17.08.2011 18:03, schrieb Dale: Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Adam Carteradamcart...@gmail.com wrote: that and find https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. More specifically, while Gnome apps could already be written in multiple languages, the libraries bridging those languages to C were cumbersome (and thus buggy) to maintain, and this introspection change is intended to result in a cleanup of that process. Ohhh, now I see. I thought it was talking about languages like English, Spanish etc. lol Dale :-) :-) The ASCII-art on page [1] pretty much sums it up with regard to the compile step: There is a second compiler involved that parses the comments in the C source code and generates binary files with type information etc. which can then be used for language bindings. So, it will probably slow down compilation and use more disk space (but not very much, as stated on -dev). Also, as stated on -dev, ALWAYS enable this unless you want to recompile most of @world if you ever need a language binding. [1] https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection/Architecture Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
Florian Philipp wrote: Am 17.08.2011 18:03, schrieb Dale: Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Adam Carteradamcart...@gmail.com wrote: that and find https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. More specifically, while Gnome apps could already be written in multiple languages, the libraries bridging those languages to C were cumbersome (and thus buggy) to maintain, and this introspection change is intended to result in a cleanup of that process. Ohhh, now I see. I thought it was talking about languages like English, Spanish etc. lol Dale :-) :-) The ASCII-art on page [1] pretty much sums it up with regard to the compile step: There is a second compiler involved that parses the comments in the C source code and generates binary files with type information etc. which can then be used for language bindings. So, it will probably slow down compilation and use more disk space (but not very much, as stated on -dev). Also, as stated on -dev, ALWAYS enable this unless you want to recompile most of @world if you ever need a language binding. [1] https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection/Architecture Regards, Florian Philipp Ah, pictures, well sort of anyway. My biggest thing is I don't use Gnome. It sounds like KDE may be moving this direction too. So, may as well leave it alone. I did read somewhere where the size increase is fairly small. I got a 160Gb drive for my OS so I think it will fit on there. lol Now I see better. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
I notice this USE flag is on by default now. I also follow -dev but this still is not clear for me. What exactly does introspection enable? Is it some GUI thing or something else? I also think I saw somewhere it is mostly a Gnome thing. Do I need it since I only use KDE and have Fluxbox as a backup GUI? Here's what i do in that situation; Goto http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml and find that the complete name for introspection is gobject-introspection, so google that and find https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. Assume gentoo devs know what they're doing, so accept their decision and stop thinking about it.
Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
Adam Carter wrote: I notice this USE flag is on by default now. I also follow -dev but this still is not clear for me. What exactly does introspection enable? Is it some GUI thing or something else? I also think I saw somewhere it is mostly a Gnome thing. Do I need it since I only use KDE and have Fluxbox as a backup GUI? Here's what i do in that situation; Goto http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml and find that the complete name for introspection is gobject-introspection, so google that and find https://live.gnome.org/GObjectIntrospection Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. Assume gentoo devs know what they're doing, so accept their decision and stop thinking about it. Well, I did the euse -i thing, googled, and also read about it on -dev. It made no sense. You give good advice tho. I'm going to hit Y and let it update. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
Re-reading what I wrote sounded a bit rude, so rephrased; Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. I then assume gentoo devs know what they're doing, so I accept their decision and stop thinking about it.
Re: [gentoo-user] introspection USE flag and KDE
Adam Carter wrote: Re-reading what I wrote sounded a bit rude, so rephrased; Now ask someone who codes WTF that page means :) Sounds like it allows programs to use code from different languages. I then assume gentoo devs know what they're doing, so I accept their decision and stop thinking about it. I didn't read it that way. You have to be pretty blunt for me to take things the wrong way. I always keep in mind that reading text can be done in several ways. I try to always take it in a good way unless there is no good way to read it If you call me a a**hole, well I would be offended. ;-) Then again, I have been called worse. I have been called better to tho. Anyway. . I took that it wasn't going to add some HUGE amount of bloat and that even tho I don't use Gnome, it is OK to let it do its thing. I did that and nothing blew up so far. May blow up tomorrow tho. lol Dale :-) :-)
