Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Matthew Marlowe
m...@professionalsysadmin.com wrote:
 Client-side rendering works just fine with NX (including x2go).  You
 just have to watch your screen paint every time you scroll an
 application like chrome that uses it.  Instead of sending the text
 your X client sends NX an image, just like VNC.


 I thought the NX 4.0 packages (free and commercial) have a runtime
 option to run either in 1) VNC type mode (default) or 2) light-mode
 (optimized for desktop and non graphics intensive).  This was
 discussed in one of the nomachine hosted forums.


I'm not sure what the point would be in basically paying for VNC.  The
whole point of NX is that it modifies the X protocol so that there is
less back-and-forth between the local server and remote clients by
acting as a local client to the server and a remote server to the
clients.  But, when clients are just sending huge blobs of images, all
it can do is transmit them.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-11 Thread Matthew Marlowe
 Client-side rendering works just fine with NX (including x2go).  You
 just have to watch your screen paint every time you scroll an
 application like chrome that uses it.  Instead of sending the text
 your X client sends NX an image, just like VNC.


I thought the NX 4.0 packages (free and commercial) have a runtime
option to run either in 1) VNC type mode (default) or 2) light-mode
(optimized for desktop and non graphics intensive).  This was
discussed in one of the nomachine hosted forums.

I'm homeschooling my kids and wanted to give them access to
mathematica/system modeler/and the full set of interesting apps
installed here on the home gentoo server.  I did end up purchasing the
4-user linux terminal server option here for only roughly $125/yr.  I
tested x2go first and while it performed fine for a single app but had
too many issues in desktop mode or with overall usability.



Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 How does it work: client-side-rendering.  Is there a solution on Gentoo.


Client-side rendering works just fine with NX (including x2go).  You
just have to watch your screen paint every time you scroll an
application like chrome that uses it.  Instead of sending the text
your X client sends NX an image, just like VNC.

So, NX with client-side rendering works just like VNC, which makes it
horrible over a WAN.  However, it still works.


-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm still using nxserver-freenx and nxclient they are working OK with
 XFCE
 and they are still valid packages.

 Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
 Is x2go stable on XFCE4?


I've had my share of issues with both.  I doubt that anybody is going
to get rid of nx just to do it.  However, it has been fairly dead
upstream and that probably means all the usual kinds of issues (maybe
some dependency update will break it, etc).  If I were still actively
using it I'd be looking for alternatives, though to be honest there
aren't really many out there.

It seems like everybody has been moving more and more towards things
like client-side-rendering, hardware acceleration, and so on.  The
experience on NX was slowly becoming a lot more like VNC anyway.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-10 Thread Joseph

On 02/10/15 09:07, Rich Freeman wrote:

On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:


I'm still using nxserver-freenx and nxclient they are working OK with
XFCE
and they are still valid packages.

Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
Is x2go stable on XFCE4?



I've had my share of issues with both.  I doubt that anybody is going
to get rid of nx just to do it.  However, it has been fairly dead
upstream and that probably means all the usual kinds of issues (maybe
some dependency update will break it, etc).  If I were still actively
using it I'd be looking for alternatives, though to be honest there
aren't really many out there.

It seems like everybody has been moving more and more towards things
like client-side-rendering, hardware acceleration, and so on.  The
experience on NX was slowly becoming a lot more like VNC anyway.


How does it work: client-side-rendering.  Is there a solution on Gentoo.

For me nxserver-freenx still works perfectly on Gentoo but I couldn't get 
nxclient to work on xubuntu.

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-09 Thread Guillaume Poulin
When I was using it back in ~2008, it was working. However, freenx
seems to be an abandoned project, no update since 2008
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/freenx.berlios/files/?source=navbar).
ArchWiki suggests to use x2go instead
(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FreeNX).

2015-02-10 10:49 GMT+08:00 Joseph syscon...@gmail.com:
 Will nomachine talk to nxserver-freenx
 I've installed nxserver-freenx on Gentoo but on the other end I have
 nomachine running on ubuntu.
 I couldn't find/install freenx on ubuntu.

 --
 Joseph




Re: [gentoo-user] nomachine -- nxserver-freenx

2015-02-09 Thread Joseph

On 02/10/15 11:01, Guillaume Poulin wrote:

When I was using it back in ~2008, it was working. However, freenx
seems to be an abandoned project, no update since 2008
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/freenx.berlios/files/?source=navbar).
ArchWiki suggests to use x2go instead
(https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FreeNX).

2015-02-10 10:49 GMT+08:00 Joseph syscon...@gmail.com:

Will nomachine talk to nxserver-freenx
I've installed nxserver-freenx on Gentoo but on the other end I have
nomachine running on ubuntu.
I couldn't find/install freenx on ubuntu.


I'm still using nxserver-freenx and nxclient they are working OK with XFCE
and they are still valid packages.

Does it mean, they might be pulled out of gentoo packages?
Is x2go stable on XFCE4?

--
Joseph