Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?
On Sunday, April 05, 2015 05:29:58 PM lee wrote: Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de writes: Am 04.04.2015 um 14:32 schrieb lee: Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I used rp-pppoe. I found it easier to configure. ppp is installed as a dependency anyway. So there isn't really a choice and rp-pppoe is some kind of additional thing? What are its advantages? I'd like to see some connection statistics, i. e. the connection should be active 24/7, and I want to know when it's interrupted and re-established, preferably with good error reporting. It would suffice when I get an email telling me that the connection is down/up. If your ISP doesn't disconnect you the connection usually stays active as long as you want resp. the computer is running. That's the idea, and in practise, the connection is interrupted rather frequently. I'm pretty sure the router sucks and contributes to the problem. If it's not only the router, that's just another thing they need to fix. Do the connection issues correspond with the phone being used? One of the most common mistakes with ADSL connections is either broken splitters or not enough. You need to put an ADSL/Phone splitter to ensure all phones are connected to the phone side and the modem to the ADSL side. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?
Am 05.04.2015 um 17:29 schrieb lee: So there isn't really a choice and rp-pppoe is some kind of additional thing? As far as I remember yes. What are its advantages? Like I said before, easier to configure and to handle. Networkmanager sucks, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf and does all kinds of weird things. If you need or want to use fixed DNS servers you can set them in the IPv4 and/or IPv6 settings of each connection, and Networkmanager puts those into /etc/resolv.conf. I haven't seen Networkmanager doing weird things yet, and I'm using it quite a while for several connection types like simple ethernet, WLAN and mobile broadband. Maybe it's useful when you need to switch between connections all the time; that's not what I'm doing. I'm not using kde or gnome, either. It's also useful if you want to automatically reconnect when the connection got lost as soon as a reconnect is possible again. Neither ppp nor rp-pppoe can do that. nm-applett also works with Xfce or LXDE if you're using those. Networkmanager itself contains several tools for the text console like nmcli and nmtui. And if you need to run a script every time the internet connection is established or closed just put it into /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d. Parameter $1 gives the network device and $2 is either up or down.
Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de writes: Am 04.04.2015 um 14:32 schrieb lee: Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I used rp-pppoe. I found it easier to configure. ppp is installed as a dependency anyway. So there isn't really a choice and rp-pppoe is some kind of additional thing? What are its advantages? I'd like to see some connection statistics, i. e. the connection should be active 24/7, and I want to know when it's interrupted and re-established, preferably with good error reporting. It would suffice when I get an email telling me that the connection is down/up. If your ISP doesn't disconnect you the connection usually stays active as long as you want resp. the computer is running. That's the idea, and in practise, the connection is interrupted rather frequently. I'm pretty sure the router sucks and contributes to the problem. If it's not only the router, that's just another thing they need to fix. Currently, I'm taking my money back from them until they fix the problems, and they don't even notice: Fee internet for me --- though I'd rather have it working. I don't know anything about the other features (anymore) but with rp-pppoe you get at least the same error messages/logs as with ppp. Hm, I think I'll start with ppp then. You can also use net-misc/networkmanager. If you're using a desktop environment then you can also install gnome-extra/nm-applet for GTK based desktops or a similar package for KDE. This way you always see the connection status in the systray. And it's easier to configure. With networkmanager you can also easily choose and switch between different connection types like Ethernet, WLAN, DSL, Mobile Broadband, VPN etc. Networkmanager sucks, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf and does all kinds of weird things. Maybe it's useful when you need to switch between connections all the time; that's not what I'm doing. I'm not using kde or gnome, either. -- Again we must be afraid of speaking of daemons for fear that daemons might swallow us. Finally, this fear has become reasonable.
Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?
On Sunday 05 Apr 2015 16:29:58 lee wrote: Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de writes: Am 04.04.2015 um 14:32 schrieb lee: Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I used rp-pppoe. I found it easier to configure. ppp is installed as a dependency anyway. So there isn't really a choice and rp-pppoe is some kind of additional thing? What are its advantages? I have not installed rp-pppoe, only net-dialup/ppp, but it brought in rp- pppoe.so: $ ls -1 /usr/lib64/pppd/2.4.7/ minconn.so openl2tp.so passprompt.so passwordfd.so pppol2tp.so rp-pppoe.so winbind.so I'd like to see some connection statistics, i. e. the connection should be active 24/7, and I want to know when it's interrupted and re-established, preferably with good error reporting. It would suffice when I get an email telling me that the connection is down/up. You can increase the verbosity of the ppp logs by adding 'debug' in /etc/ppp/peers/my_isp. If your ISP doesn't disconnect you the connection usually stays active as long as you want resp. the computer is running. That's the idea, and in practise, the connection is interrupted rather frequently. I'm pretty sure the router sucks and contributes to the problem. If it's not only the router, that's just another thing they need to fix. This may have nothing to do with ppp and everything to do with noise on the line. ADSL is susceptible to REIN, cross-talk and all sort of poor connectivity (high resistance joints) problems. Currently, I'm taking my money back from them until they fix the problems, and they don't even notice: Fee internet for me --- though I'd rather have it working. I don't know anything about the other features (anymore) but with rp-pppoe you get at least the same error messages/logs as with ppp. Hm, I think I'll start with ppp then. I'd suggest the same and if you are not happy with its behaviour and output you can look at what additional features or benefits the rp-pppoe command interface brings. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?
On Saturday 04 Apr 2015 13:32:28 lee wrote: Hi, I need a pppoe client, no server part necessary, to replace the black-box router because that thing sucks. Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I'd like to see some connection statistics, i. e. the connection should be active 24/7, and I want to know when it's interrupted and re-established, preferably with good error reporting. It would suffice when I get an email telling me that the connection is down/up. I have used net-dialup/ppp to handle the authentication with the ISP's RADIUS server, but retained the ADSL modem (or router in fully bridged mode) which performed the ATM encapsulation, on a G.DMT (ITU G.992.1) connection. I used /etc/conf.d/net to configure ppp like so, while : === #PPPoE configuration config_enp11s0=null config_ppp0=ppp link_ppp0=enp11s0 plugins_ppp0=pppoe username_ppp0='my_ISP_user_name' password_ppp0='my_secret_passwd' hide-password pppd_ppp0= noauth defaultroute usepeerdns holdoff 3 child-timeout 60 lcp-echo-interval 15 lcp-echo-failure 3 #debug noaccomp noccp nobsdcomp nodeflate nopcomp novj novjccomp # rc_net_need_ppp0=net.enp11s0 === enp11s0 is the NIC with which I connected to the ADSL modem. Your ISP should offer some settings in case the above are not appropriate for your connection. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?
Am 04.04.2015 um 14:32 schrieb lee: Which package would you recommend? There seem to be at least two I could use: net-dialup/ppp net-dialup/rp-pppoe I used rp-pppoe. I found it easier to configure. ppp is installed as a dependency anyway. I'd like to see some connection statistics, i. e. the connection should be active 24/7, and I want to know when it's interrupted and re-established, preferably with good error reporting. It would suffice when I get an email telling me that the connection is down/up. If your ISP doesn't disconnect you the connection usually stays active as long as you want resp. the computer is running. I don't know anything about the other features (anymore) but with rp-pppoe you get at least the same error messages/logs as with ppp. You can also use net-misc/networkmanager. If you're using a desktop environment then you can also install gnome-extra/nm-applet for GTK based desktops or a similar package for KDE. This way you always see the connection status in the systray. And it's easier to configure. With networkmanager you can also easily choose and switch between different connection types like Ethernet, WLAN, DSL, Mobile Broadband, VPN etc.
Re: [gentoo-user] what to use for a pppoe client?
Am 04.04.2015 um 21:27 schrieb Heiko Baums: You can also use net-misc/networkmanager. If you're using a desktop environment then you can also install gnome-extra/nm-applet for GTK based desktops or a similar package for KDE. This way you always see the connection status in the systray. And it's easier to configure. With networkmanager you can also easily choose and switch between different connection types like Ethernet, WLAN, DSL, Mobile Broadband, VPN etc. I should add that networkmanager automatically reconnects if the internet connection got lost for some reason. If it's not possible it permanently tries until it's possible again.
