Re: [Gimp-user] Photoshop FYI

[Carol Spears]

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Amira_Cervantes 
wrote:

> >Chromebook photoshop cloud soon.  Photoshop in Chrome Ubuntu next
> >year.
>
> Adobe Photoshop Is also Coming To Linux, Through Chromebooks ... sounds
> great!
>
>

This is great news!  Thanks for sharing it with us!  GIMP will get to be
like GIMP with less noise.

Is there anything that we can do to expedite this?

carol
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Re: [Gimp-user] halftone images exporting...

[Pat David]

Not sure what you mean by halftone (well, I know what it means, but want to
make sure we’re on the same page). Could you link to the image so we can
see what it is?
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 5:11 PM Danielle Mihm via gimp-user-list <
gimp-user-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> Hi, all the images I am exporting are only coming through halftone.  Can
> anybody think of a reason why?  The preview looks fine, but when it is put
> into our website, it comes up halftoned.
>
> Thanks,
> Danielle
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[Gimp-user] Photoshop FYI

[Amira_Cervantes]

>Chromebook photoshop cloud soon.  Photoshop in Chrome Ubuntu next
>year.

Adobe Photoshop Is also Coming To Linux, Through Chromebooks ... sounds great!

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[Gimp-user] File size too large

[Amira_Cervantes]

>I received an error message after uploading a photo for an event
>calendar.  It read
>"The image file is too big! Maximum size: 500,000"
>
>I've tried reducing the pixels.  I'm not sure what it's referring to.
>
>There is no CONTACT US section at this website to contact them to ask
>this question.
>
>Thanks for your help.  Links to explain the solution would be helpful.


Its seem like just a technical error at the website. please let us know if you
have figure out the problem.

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[albatross]

Thanks ...
Not quite sure what you mean ...

"So, start with the Work you want to resize, and create a new  object
with the desired size your trying to get.  then  copy one into the other."

Do you mean do the above In Gimp2? Then export to a jpg from gimp2?

Thanks

>I may not be able to answer your question, but I can explain a few
>things that I am taking on blind faith and its working.
>
>So, start with the Work you want to resize, and create a new  object
>with the desired size your trying to get.  then  copy one into the
>other.
>
>Then the magic piece is to Export to a Jpg, and from word "Insert it
>as a image"
>
>I am finding that if you let the application think, it over does it.

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[menglor]

>Thanks ...
>Not quite sure what you mean ...
>
>"So, start with the Work you want to resize, and create a new  object
>with the desired size your trying to get.  then  copy one into the
>other."
>
>Do you mean do the above In Gimp2? Then export to a jpg from gimp2?
>
>Thanks


Gimp, you can have multiple images open.

what as explained to me, was Create a new image to the size you want
open the image you want to resize.
drag the working image on to the Working picture then tell it too scale to it. 
Then Export it..

after its been exported, import the image into word. and it will be the size you
need it too be.

when I copy from Gimp to word, a kind of magic happens, and it gets distorted.

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[menglor]

I may not be able to answer your question, but I can explain a few things that I
am taking on blind faith and its working.

So, start with the Work you want to resize, and create a new  object with the
desired size your trying to get.  then  copy one into the other.

Then the magic piece is to Export to a Jpg, and from word "Insert it as a image"

I am finding that if you let the application think, it over does it.


>Hi, I too have an issue understanding how resizing works, especially
>with reference to Word.
>I wasn't sure if I should post a new thread, but decided this was sort
>of pertinent to my issue.
>Please let me know if I should create a new post.
>
>Basically, If I have a big image (a signature, black and white, about
>1000 pixels wide), then insert into Word, and resize it ( to about a
>tenth of it's size) it looks fantastic.
>If I take the image, resize it in Gimp (or anything else for that
>matter) from 1000 to 100, it looks really bitty and blocky, and
>inserting to Word it remains bitty and blocky..
>
>Why is this? Is this to do with the dpi as well? And is there a work
>around?
>
>Thanks

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[albatross]

Thanks - I'll give it a go.

Cheers

>Gimp is a raster editor and works in pixels. When you scale an image,
>the pixels are not scaled they stay the same so for your signature
>image reduced to 10% means several hundred pixels are crammed into
>maybe a dozen: see screenshot 1
>
>You can get a little improvement by pre-blurring the large image but
>1-10th the size is asking a lot.
>
>For a better result convert the raster image into a vector image,
>typically a SVG. You can do this using freeware Inkscape or there are
>online converters.
>
>In a document for comparison, the type size is 14 to give some idea of
>scale. screenshot 2
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[rich404]

>Hi, I too have an issue understanding how resizing works, especially
>with reference to Word.
>I wasn't sure if I should post a new thread, but decided this was sort
>of pertinent to my issue.
>Please let me know if I should create a new post.
>
>Basically, If I have a big image (a signature, black and white, about
>1000 pixels wide), then insert into Word, and resize it ( to about a
>tenth of it's size) it looks fantastic.
>If I take the image, resize it in Gimp (or anything else for that
>matter) from 1000 to 100, it looks really bitty and blocky, and
>inserting to Word it remains bitty and blocky..
>
>Why is this? Is this to do with the dpi as well? And is there a work
>around?
>
>Thanks

Gimp is a raster editor and works in pixels. When you scale an image, the pixels
are not scaled they stay the same so for your signature image reduced to 10%
means several hundred pixels are crammed into maybe a dozen: see screenshot 1

You can get a little improvement by pre-blurring the large image but 1-10th the
size is asking a lot.

For a better result convert the raster image into a vector image, typically a
SVG. You can do this using freeware Inkscape or there are online converters.

In a document for comparison, the type size is 14 to give some idea of scale.
screenshot 2

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

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* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/760/original/reduced.png
* http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/761/original/example.png

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[Gimp-user] layer mode missing

[jalea148]

>Do you mean that:
>
>The whole of the 'Mode' bar top of the layers is missing; as 1 in
>screenshot
>
>or
>
>There is a particular mode that you want but can not find in the drop
>down menu; as 2 in screenshot

I was looking for Mode within the list. With my bad eyesight I didn't notice it
was a pulldown list at the top. Thanx for your reply.

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[albatross]

Hi, I too have an issue understanding how resizing works, especially with
reference to Word.
I wasn't sure if I should post a new thread, but decided this was sort of
pertinent to my issue.
Please let me know if I should create a new post.

Basically, If I have a big image (a signature, black and white, about 1000
pixels wide), then insert into Word, and resize it ( to about a tenth of it's
size) it looks fantastic.
If I take the image, resize it in Gimp (or anything else for that matter) from
1000 to 100, it looks really bitty and blocky, and inserting to Word it remains
bitty and blocky..

Why is this? Is this to do with the dpi as well? And is there a work around?

Thanks



>Hi menglor,
>
>The process you describe will give you images of different sizes if
>the
>originals have different DPI values, because when you scale an image
>to
>be a certain number of inches in size, the GIMP looks at the DPI
>resolution of the image first, then scales the image to be X number of
>pixels wide/tall based on that DPI and the physical dimensions you
>specify.
>
>Example:  A 300 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 300 pixels
>wide.  A 150 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 150 pixels wide
>-
>half "size" of the 300 DPI one.
>
>Scaling images by adjusting their size in inches (or centimeters,
>etc.)
>is rarely done.  Useful results require resetting the DPI of images as
>necessary, so a set of images of the same size in inches, cm or etc.
>will also be the same size in pixels.
>
>Or can multiply the size in inches of the output images you want by
>the
>DPI you want, to get the correct dimensions in pixels for /all/ the
>images intended to be the same size when printed.  From that point on,
>you can just scale your whole batch of images to the same size in
>pixels
>and ignore the size "in inches."
>
>The DPI setting in an image is only a number recorded in the file
>header; changing the DPI of an image changes nothing but that one
>number, and as far as I know it does not affect the actual or
>displayed
>/ printed size of the image, except when scaling the image in an
>editor
>like the GIMP.
>
>Typical DPI values:
>
>300 DPI for high quality print
>150 DPI for office documents etc. where "good enough is good enough"
>96 DPI for on-screen display
>72 DPI - a legacy default setting based on printers' "point" size
>
>Note that doubling the DPI of an image while maintaining the same
>print
>size when scaling, multiplies the size of the resulting file on disk
>by
>about 4x.  Exporting images in lossless PNG format (vs. lossy JPG) for
>maximum print quality also creates much larger file sizes on disk.  So
>big, high quality print jobs can take up a lot of space in storage or
>time in transit across the network.
>
>You also mentioned printing via a Word document, and that the sizes
>you
>get are a little off.  I think that's to be expected, because word
>processors were not intended for "pre-press" work, a.k.a. printing
>images with high accuracy.
>
>I use Scribus, a Free desktop publishing application, for pre-press
>work.  Make your images, put them on the page exactly where you want
>them, export the file as PDF and print that:  Viola, accurate results.
>
>For really precise positioning on page, i.e. when printing on peel and
>stick label stock or etc., it may be necessary to print a test page,
>measure any placement errors, and adjust the Scribus master document
>to
>get your required results from that particular printer.
>
>https://www.scribus.net/
>
>:o)

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[Gimp-user] layer mode missing

[rich404]

>running 2.8.20 in Win 10. Want to do overlay. Mode option missing from
>Layer list.

Do you mean that:

The whole of the 'Mode' bar top of the layers is missing; as 1 in screenshot

or

There is a particular mode that you want but can not find in the drop down menu;
as 2 in screenshot

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[Gimp-user] filters

[Amira_Cervantes]

>looking for a filter that makes the subject "people" look painted like
>the background. like in the attached photo

there is many effects like this. google can give you better result.

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[Gimp-user] layer mode missing

[jalea148]

running 2.8.20 in Win 10. Want to do overlay. Mode option missing from Layer
list.

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[Gimp-user] Nik Collection and Lightzone plg-ins (Shellout evolution)

[Amira_Cervantes]

>In this video it is shown a photography pack installed in Gimp. It is
>an evolution of the shellout plugin, adapted to work with Nik
>collection and lightzone. In the same youtube channel you can find the
>tutorial on where to download and install it.


You have posted same thing double. I think One post is enough for know or tell
something. Thank you.

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[Gimp-user] Open RAW Images in GIMP

[Amira_Cervantes]

>Hey everyone,
>
>Read our newest tutorial on how to open RAW images in GIMP using
>RAWTherapee. It is a pretty simple tutorial to follow, and for those
>of you who import RAW images I think you will find this tutorial
>useful.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mike.

Wonderful! very good video. learnt something new today. now importing RAW image
is easy for me. Thanks for sharing with us.

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[Gimp-user] Gimp: My illustration tool

[Amira_Cervantes]

>snip...
>Just for info.
>
>That list of shortcuts is generally OK but it is for Gimp 2.6 and has
>not been updated to include changes.
>
>example 'shrink-wrap' ctrl-E is now ctrl-J
>
>The best list I know is this one:
>
>http://clownfishcafe.blogspot.co.uk/p/gimp-28-shortcuts.html

useful link. i have downloaded too. thanks!

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[Gimp-user] Creating a new operation for GEGL

[felipeek2]

Hello developers,

I'm currently working on an implementation of a bilateral filter called "Domain
Transform Filter" (for someone interested, the work can be found here
https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=1964921.1964964 and here
http://inf.ufrgs.br/~eslgastal/DomainTransform/).

Well, it turns out that we've decided to try to implement the filter in GEGL, so
it would become easy to use with tools like GIMP, for example. Since GEGL is
open source, I've been trying to understand the code that is used to generate
new operations and understand how could I carry the filter to the platform.

I've made some tests, and I figured out that the standard behavior of GEGL is to
split the image in several tiles, which are usually rectangles, and process all
these 'tiles' independently, even using different threads. With some inspection
of the existing GEGL code is easy to, for example, make each thread processes
its own tile and return the result. However, for the specific filter I'm
implementing, this is not enough, since it is a recursive filter.

The implementation I am using of the Domain Transform filter is a recursive one,
in which each pixel will always depend on the value of the previous pixel,
already processed. That said, I could only process a tile if the previous tile
was already processed, which is a problem. Moreover, to generate good results,
the filter must be applied several consecutive times, and each time it must be
performed top->down, bottom-up, left-right and right-left, again consecutively.
Since GEGL automatically divides the image into tiles and feed them to the
operation, I'm not sure how is the proper way to force the filter to be executed
in several steps.

With all these restrictions, I'm having some difficult to find out how can I
achieve that inside GEGL. I would be very grateful if someone could give me some
hints or even show me a code where a recursive filter is implemented as a GEGL
operation.

Thank you very much,
Felipe

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[Gimp-user] no image preview in folder

[rich404]

>XnViewMP?? is it plugin or  any other software? 
>
>TIA.

Well, try and get Gimp working first. 

I suggested XnViewMP as an image manager/browser because it is multi-platform
and I do not know your OS.

see: https://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/

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[Gimp-user] no image preview in folder

[Curti]

When I save any Gimp 2.8.22 image in a folder, it won't give, me a preview of it
in the preview pane. I have to open it up in Gimp again to see what it is. How
do I fix this?

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[Gimp-user] no image preview in folder

[Curti]

>Well, try and get Gimp working first. 
>
>I suggested XnViewMP as an image manager/browser because it is
>multi-platform and I do not know your OS.
>
>see: https://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net



Sorry, it's Windows 10, any image file saved through Gimp. I figured it out, I
just export or overwrite the file in jpeg format and then it works fine. Thanks.

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[Amira_Cervantes]

>Hi menglor,
>
>The process you describe will give you images of different sizes if
>the
>originals have different DPI values, because when you scale an image
>to
>be a certain number of inches in size, the GIMP looks at the DPI
>resolution of the image first, then scales the image to be X number of
>pixels wide/tall based on that DPI and the physical dimensions you
>specify.
>
>Example:  A 300 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 300 pixels
>wide.  A 150 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 150 pixels wide
>-
>half "size" of the 300 DPI one.
>
>Scaling images by adjusting their size in inches (or centimeters,
>etc.)
>is rarely done.  Useful results require resetting the DPI of images as
>necessary, so a set of images of the same size in inches, cm or etc.
>will also be the same size in pixels.
>
>Or can multiply the size in inches of the output images you want by
>the
>DPI you want, to get the correct dimensions in pixels for /all/ the
>images intended to be the same size when printed.  From that point on,
>you can just scale your whole batch of images to the same size in
>pixels
>and ignore the size "in inches."
>
>The DPI setting in an image is only a number recorded in the file
>header; changing the DPI of an image changes nothing but that one
>number, and as far as I know it does not affect the actual or
>displayed
>/ printed size of the image, except when scaling the image in an
>editor
>like the GIMP.
>
>Typical DPI values:
>
>300 DPI for high quality print
>150 DPI for office documents etc. where "good enough is good enough"
>96 DPI for on-screen display
>72 DPI - a legacy default setting based on printers' "point" size
>
>Note that doubling the DPI of an image while maintaining the same
>print
>size when scaling, multiplies the size of the resulting file on disk
>by
>about 4x.  Exporting images in lossless PNG format (vs. lossy JPG) for
>maximum print quality also creates much larger file sizes on disk.  So
>big, high quality print jobs can take up a lot of space in storage or
>time in transit across the network.
>
>You also mentioned printing via a Word document, and that the sizes
>you
>get are a little off.  I think that's to be expected, because word
>processors were not intended for "pre-press" work, a.k.a. printing
>images with high accuracy.
>
>I use Scribus, a Free desktop publishing application, for pre-press
>work.  Make your images, put them on the page exactly where you want
>them, export the file as PDF and print that:  Viola, accurate results.
>
>For really precise positioning on page, i.e. when printing on peel and
>stick label stock or etc., it may be necessary to print a test page,
>measure any placement errors, and adjust the Scribus master document
>to
>get your required results from that particular printer.
>
>https://www.scribus.net/
>
>:o)




Thanks. Seems like learned some  new things today. :D

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[Gimp-user] New to GIMP- user manual for Mac OSX

[LeoB]

>No advice from Mac users? I use linux but have seen this type of
>problem reported several times.
>
>One thing is, a package from one source very rarely works with one
>from another source. I unpacked the help pkg archive and just what is
>expected, basically a HTML installation. Should be in
>...share/gimp/2.0/help (maybe)
>
>As an alternative, although standalone, there is a PDF here
>http://gimp.linux.it/www/meta/
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net

Thanks Rich.  Built in would have been nice, but the pdf will work.

LeoB

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[Gimp-user] no image preview in folder

[Amira_Cervantes]

>A bit scant on information. What OS and is this using the Gimp File ->
>Open dialogue? - as screenshot 1
>
>It could be the images are just too large. Modern digital cameras
>especially, can produce large files.
>
>Check in Edit -> Preferences -> Environment -> Image Thumbnails and
>see if increasing the Max Filesize for thumbnailing changes anything.
>screenshot 2
>
>If still stuck, there are free dedicated, graphics file managers such
>as XnViewMP, that will display thumbnails and can be set up to open an
>image in Gimp.
>
>rich: www.gimp-forum.net


 XnViewMP?? is it plugin or  any other software? 

TIA.

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[Gimp-user] no image preview in folder

[rich404]

>When I save any Gimp 2.8.22 image in a folder, it won't give, me a
>preview of it in the preview pane. I have to open it up in Gimp again
>to see what it is. How do I fix this?

A bit scant on information. What OS and is this using the Gimp File -> Open
dialogue? - as screenshot 1

It could be the images are just too large. Modern digital cameras especially,
can produce large files.

Check in Edit -> Preferences -> Environment -> Image Thumbnails and see if
increasing the Max Filesize for thumbnailing changes anything. screenshot 2

If still stuck, there are free dedicated, graphics file managers such as
XnViewMP, that will display thumbnails and can be set up to open an image in
Gimp.

rich: www.gimp-forum.net

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[Gimp-user] New to GIMP- user manual for Mac OSX

[rich404]

>I downloaded and installed GIMP 2.8.22 from www.gimp.org/downloads/
>with no problem.  I'm running OSX 10.11.6 (El Capitan). I also grabbed
>the GIMP 2.8 User Manual install package from
>http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Download.html and successfully
>installed that.  I gather that is supposed to be integrated with the
>GIMP installation rather than as a standalone.  But when I open GIMP
>preferences, it shows that the user manual is not installed locally.
>And I can not find it anywhere on my startup volume.  What am I doing
>wrong?
>Thanks.

No advice from Mac users? I use linux but have seen this type of problem
reported several times.

One thing is, a package from one source very rarely works with one from another
source. I unpacked the help pkg archive and just what is expected, basically a
HTML installation. Should be in ...share/gimp/2.0/help (maybe)

As an alternative, although standalone, there is a PDF here
http://gimp.linux.it/www/meta/

rich: www.gimp-forum.net


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[Gimp-user] Image Rotation Auto Center

[Stratos]

Unfortunately, no. This task is to bring all the images into axial alignment,
They vary from +12 deg to -12 deg out of alignment more or less randomly.

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[menglor]

Thank you, I will give it a try. 

I am pretty sure it wont work for me because I am actually cutting out the
picture inside the lable. so its not the label size I need, but a smaller piece
of it.

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[Gimp-user] Image Rotation Auto Center

[rich404]

>I'm looking for a way to set the auto center for rotation to 53, 672
>instead of the image center. I have 1200 images to process and
>reducing even a few keystrokes makes a big difference. tks, S

Is it a different amount of rotation for each image?

If the rotation is constant, the the batch plugin BIMP can be used.

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[Gimp-user] New to GIMP- user manual for Mac OSX

[LeoB]

I downloaded and installed GIMP 2.8.22 from www.gimp.org/downloads/ with no
problem.  I'm running OSX 10.11.6 (El Capitan). I also grabbed the GIMP 2.8 User
Manual install package from http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Download.html and
successfully installed that.  I gather that is supposed to be integrated with
the GIMP installation rather than as a standalone.  But when I open GIMP
preferences, it shows that the user manual is not installed locally. And I can
not find it anywhere on my startup volume.  What am I doing wrong?
Thanks.

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[Gimp-user] separate +

[rich404]

>Can separate+ be added to 2.8.22?

You really need to state the operating system when asking this type of question.
The solution for Windows is different for say, linux and OSX another matter
again.

Assuming Windows, you can try this how-to demo https://youtu.be/oQ5655I-wrY 

You need the files from here
http://www.mediafire.com/file/azx5y5uyd7t0a31/cmyk_utility.zip

Unzip it, there is a folder 'separate_plus_for_win7' inside that are these files
+ some others

icc_colorspace.exe libtiff3.dll separate.exe separate_import.exe  these go in
your Gimp profile C:\Users\your-name\.gimp-2.8\plug-ins

Explanation, the plugin nearly qualifies for ancient, needs that libtiff3.dll
from Gimp 2.6

Does it work in Windows 10, a quick test was ok, see screenshots.

What are the other files in that zip, There is the separate conversion utility
CMYKTool, have not tried recently might/might-not work in Win10 and a couple of
icc profiles.

An even older demo on use here, but it is Gimp 2.8 http://youtu.be/2rby7r771D4

Alternatives, For something with a GUI try krita,  command-line use ImageMagick

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[Gimp-user] Image Rotation Auto Center

[Stratos]

I'm looking for a way to set the auto center for rotation to 53, 672 instead of
the image center. I have 1200 images to process and reducing even a few
keystrokes makes a big difference. tks, S

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[Gimp-user] separate +

[sandyclaws]

Can separate+ be added to 2.8.22?

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[Gimp-user] separate +

[sandyclaws]

Can separate+ be added to 2.8.22?

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[Gimp-user] problems with understand how to resize images properly

[menglor]

Thanks for your reply.  I am reading through what your saying, and I cross
posted this question on another site and getting a similar answer.

I dont want to duplicate the work, but I need to get some kind of "simple"
working solution. so I am hoping I can comment a few things and maybe drive the
conversion differently and maybe something I missed will come out.

I understand GIMP and probably ALL graphical software behaves similarly. and I
dont expect that will change. but here is my dilema.

I have a working surface of  2.42 x 1.30  to display what I am trying to do. the
specification are that. and I can be smaller  on the 2.42,  but I have to be
Razor sharp on the 1.3 measurements when I print the label.

Its been mu experience, with Gimp, I can get the 1.3 nailed on the screen, and I
have to fill in from 2.0 to 2.4 with a color match because scaling isnt bang on.

As well, what I am capturing from multiple sources so DPI and physical size will
change.  and I would rather it take minutes rather then hours to do it.

The part I am struggling with is your comment: 

Example:  A 300 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 300 pixels wide.  A
150 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 150 pixels wide  half "size" of
the 300 DPI one.

its somewhat ODD for me to hear,  that a 1 x 1 inch image, is half the size of
another 1 x 1 inch image.

If I was building an engine for your car, and you told me it has to  24" by 48"
and I delivered you an engine that was double that, you would laugh at me, and
it wouldnt fit.

and I will go one further and even replicate a comment I posted elsewhere,   
When I created a 1" x 1" image at 300 dpi,  Gimp still showed me the image on
the screen with a ruler as 1" x 1", but when I pasted the object into MS Paint, 
it said it was 3"

So, with all that whining done, let me ask this question.

- I need to create an image that is 2.42 x 1.30 in size.  
- I know when I scale any image to 1.3 I end up with a 2.0 x 1.3 image.
- I need to be able to take ANY image I want.  scale it down to size
- Fill in the buffer between  2.42 and 2.0 with the appropriate background
color.
- Paste it into "something" that will allow me to print it too a Avery label
sheet.
- Cut it with a knife and apply it on a surface like a tube, where the
circumference of the item is 1.3" in size.
- There can be no over lap.

- its been suggested, that I resize the image in Word or other programs outside
of Gimp, but Word or other programs
dont offer the granularity or precision that Gimp does,  so from my view point,
its like asking me to write my resume in Excel.

Do you have any suggestions ?   I will be looking at Scribus tonight or Friday.
But I am looking for a solution to render the above in a fairly short period of
time, the Avery templates have 10 labels. and I never expect to print the same
picture twice.





>Hi menglor,
>
>The process you describe will give you images of different sizes if
>the
>originals have different DPI values, because when you scale an image
>to
>be a certain number of inches in size, the GIMP looks at the DPI
>resolution of the image first, then scales the image to be X number of
>pixels wide/tall based on that DPI and the physical dimensions you
>specify.
>
>Example:  A 300 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 300 pixels
>wide.  A 150 DPI image scaled to 1" x 1" will come out 150 pixels wide
>-
>half "size" of the 300 DPI one.
>
>Scaling images by adjusting their size in inches (or centimeters,
>etc.)
>is rarely done.  Useful results require resetting the DPI of images as
>necessary, so a set of images of the same size in inches, cm or etc.
>will also be the same size in pixels.
>
>Or can multiply the size in inches of the output images you want by
>the
>DPI you want, to get the correct dimensions in pixels for /all/ the
>images intended to be the same size when printed.  From that point on,
>you can just scale your whole batch of images to the same size in
>pixels
>and ignore the size "in inches."
>
>The DPI setting in an image is only a number recorded in the file
>header; changing the DPI of an image changes nothing but that one
>number, and as far as I know it does not affect the actual or
>displayed
>/ printed size of the image, except when scaling the image in an
>editor
>like the GIMP.
>
>Typical DPI values:
>
>300 DPI for high quality print
>150 DPI for office documents etc. where "good enough is good enough"
>96 DPI for on-screen display
>72 DPI - a legacy default setting based on printers' "point" size
>
>Note that doubling the DPI of an image while maintaining the same
>print
>size when scaling, multiplies the size of the resulting file on disk
>by
>about 4x.  Exporting images in lossless PNG format (vs. lossy JPG) for
>maximum print quality also creates much larger file sizes on disk.  So
>big, high quality print jobs can take up a lot of space in storage or
>time in transit across the network.
>
>You also mentioned printing via a Word document, and that 

[Gimp-user] Open RAW Images in GIMP

[DaviesMediaDesign]

Hey everyone,

Read our newest tutorial on how to open RAW images in GIMP using RAWTherapee. It
is a pretty simple tutorial to follow, and for those of you who import RAW
images I think you will find this tutorial useful.

Here is the tutorial:
https://www.daviesmediadesign.com/open-raw-images-in-gimp/

Thanks,

Mike.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 2.8

[stephen burton via gimp-user-list]

Hello Jehan.

Thanks for your e-mail and again for your time to look at my problem. I hope I 
have fully answered your questions below, but if you need any more information 
please ask.
I'm not sure how you mean your explanations. Are you saying for instance that 
you want to use ctrl-x (with the on-screen keyboard) to cut, but you currently 
can't, and you have to go through the menu?

When I press control-X nothing happens. As with any of the shortcut modifier 
keys, e.g. control, alt or shift when I use the Microsoft on-screen keyboard, 
so to carry out any procedure or action in gimp I have to use the gimp menu.
Action:

Use Microsoft on-screen keyboard.

Press shortcut keys

Result nothing happens.

So every time I need to carry out a procedure in the gimp, such as, cut and 
paste a selection, or any other menu item requiring using shortcut keys, 
nothing happens, so to carry out any procedure or action in gimp I have to use 
the gimp menu.
And if so, why: doesn't the on-screen keyboard appear? Is it available, but 
clicking control-x does not cut anything?Some more details would be useful to 
understand the issues.

The on-screen keyboard does appear. It is available throughout using gimp but 
as I said before, when I use control-X, it doesn't cut anything. Nothing 
happens and I have use the gimp menu interface to perform any action.

Reproduction steps:
1/ Select part of an image.
2/ Hit ctrl + x in the on-screen keyboard

Expected result: the select piece of image should be cut.
Actual result: nothing happens.

Your above descriptive sequence is correct.

I perfectly understand this. I hope we can find the reasons for your issue.Just 
explain step by step what happens on your screen as explained above. Assume 
that we don't know at all what you are seeing and what you are expecting (which 
is the actual case), especially since most of us don't have the need to use an 
on-screen keyboard as you do; and moreover most developers of GIMP don't even 
use Windows as a daily OS.So we don't really know what one who use Windows and 
an on-screen keyboard expects.

Yes, I assume that am one of the few, if not the only gimp user working with 
the on-screen keyboard or a Windows 7 platform, so it is unlikely that this 
problem has ever risen to anybody 's notice before. In fact, I have only 
recently started using gimp myself. So as I explained, I am a complete newbe. 
However, it may be worth noting that although the gimp developers don't use 
Windows, I suspect the majority of gimp uses do.

Steve
  From: Jehan Pagès 
 To: stephen burton  
Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" 
 Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017, 23:20
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 
2.8
   
Hi!

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM, stephen burton
 wrote:
> Thanks Jehan for helping me out. To be honest, I'm not a developer, merely
> in newbe using gimp for a very short time. I didn't know about the GTK+
> project. It looks very exciting, might not be a programmer I don't know how
> to use it.

No problem, you don't have to be a developer to create with GIMP. ;-)
I am not proposing you to "use" GTK+. GIMP uses GTK+, not you. I was
just wondering if you also had other software which also use GTK+.
But if you don't know, it's ok. Don't worry.

> With the Microsoft on-screen keyboard what appears not to be working on the
> simple modifier keys. For example I 't use control X. I have to use cut from
> the edit menu. The Microsoft on-screen keyboard so works with any text
> field, for example I can enter a file name, but when a save it I can't use
> CONTROL C to save it. I can't use shift all the ALT key to modify a
> selection.

I'm not sure how you mean your explanations. Are you saying for
instance that you want to use ctrl-x (with the on-screen keyboard) to
cut, but you currently can't, and you have to go through the menu? And
if so, why: doesn't the on-screen keyboard appear? Is it available,
but clicking control-x does not cut anything?
Some more details would be useful to understand the issues.

Usually the way to report bugs is doing step by step procedures, then
end with the expected result and actual result.
For instance, here is what it could be with the ctrl-x example (which
may be wrong regarding your issue since I'm not sure I understand what
you are saying).

Reproduction steps:
1/ Select part of an image.
2/ Hit ctrl + x in the on-screen keyboard

Expected result: the select piece of image should be cut.
Actual result: nothing happens.

> I see you that there are a number of books referenced in the GTK + project
> documentation. Do you know if there are reputable by a non-programmer mind?

No as I said above, you don't have to read books about GTK+. This is a
code library for programmers to make usage of. Don't bother with this.
I just wanted to know if other GTK+ program had the same 

Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 2.8

[stephen burton via gimp-user-list]

Hi, the Microsoft on-screen keyboard can be accessed either through the start 
menu or control panel put under the ease of access program. As for how long it 
takes, I don't expect miracles. I can work as I am for now

Steve

  From: Jehan Pagès 
 To: stephen burton  
Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" 
 Sent: Monday, 27 November 2017, 14:14
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 
2.8
   
Hi!

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:04 PM, stephen burton
 wrote:
> Hello Jehan.
>
> Thanks for your e-mail and again for your time to look at my problem. I hope
> I have fully answered your questions below, but if you need any more
> information please ask.
> I'm not sure how you mean your explanations. Are you saying for instance
> that you want to use ctrl-x (with the on-screen keyboard) to cut, but you
> currently can't, and you have to go through the menu?
>
> When I press control-X nothing happens. As with any of the shortcut modifier
> keys, e.g. control, alt or shift when I use the Microsoft on-screen
> keyboard, so to carry out any procedure or action in gimp I have to use the
> gimp menu.
>
> Action:
>
> Use Microsoft on-screen keyboard.
>
> Press shortcut keys
>
> Result nothing happens.
>
> So every time I need to carry out a procedure in the gimp, such as, cut and
> paste a selection, or any other menu item requiring using shortcut keys,
> nothing happens, so to carry out any procedure or action in gimp I have to
> use the gimp menu.
>
> And if so, why: doesn't the on-screen keyboard appear? Is it available, but
> clicking control-x does not cut anything?Some more details would be useful
> to understand the issues.
>
> The on-screen keyboard does appear. It is available throughout using gimp
> but as I said before, when I use control-X, it doesn't cut anything. Nothing
> happens and I have use the gimp menu interface to perform any action.
>
> Reproduction steps:
> 1/ Select part of an image.
> 2/ Hit ctrl + x in the on-screen keyboard
>
> Expected result: the select piece of image should be cut.
> Actual result: nothing happens.
>
> Your above descriptive sequence is correct.
>
> I perfectly understand this. I hope we can find the reasons for your
> issue.Just explain step by step what happens on your screen as explained
> above. Assume that we don't know at all what you are seeing and what you are
> expecting (which is the actual case), especially since most of us don't have
> the need to use an on-screen keyboard as you do; and moreover most
> developers of GIMP don't even use Windows as a daily OS.So we don't really
> know what one who use Windows and an on-screen keyboard expects.
>
> Yes, I assume that am one of the few, if not the only gimp user working with
> the on-screen keyboard or a Windows 7 platform, so it is unlikely that this
> problem has ever risen to anybody 's notice before. In fact, I have only
> recently started using gimp myself. So as I explained, I am a complete
> newbe. However, it may be worth noting that although the gimp developers
> don't use Windows, I suspect the majority of gimp uses do.

Ok. I understood well the issue now.
I opened a bug report on our side:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790901
I can't ensure you this will be managed and fixed quickly. It depends
on the schedule and priorities of the developers. It may happen today
like it may take forever (sorry if that happens to be the case :-/).
But at least now it is in the system so we won't forget. Hopefully
someone will test soon.

By the way, how do you activate the on-screen keyboard in Windows?
Regards,

Jehan

> Steve
>
> 
> From: Jehan Pagès 
> To: stephen burton 
> Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" 
> Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017, 23:20
>
> Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp
> 2.8
>
> Hi!
>
> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 1:06 PM, stephen burton
>  wrote:
>> Thanks Jehan for helping me out. To be honest, I'm not a developer, merely
>> in newbe using gimp for a very short time. I didn't know about the GTK+
>> project. It looks very exciting, might not be a programmer I don't know
>> how
>> to use it.
>
> No problem, you don't have to be a developer to create with GIMP. ;-)
> I am not proposing you to "use" GTK+. GIMP uses GTK+, not you. I was
> just wondering if you also had other software which also use GTK+.
> But if you don't know, it's ok. Don't worry.
>
>> With the Microsoft on-screen keyboard what appears not to be working on
>> the
>> simple modifier keys. For example I 't use control X. I have to use cut
>> from
>> the edit menu. The Microsoft on-screen keyboard so works with any text
>> field, for example I can enter a file name, but when a save it I can't use
>> CONTROL C to save 

Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 2.8

[stephen burton via gimp-user-list]

Thanks Jehan for helping me out. To be honest, I'm not a developer, merely in 
newbe using gimp for a very short time. I didn't know about the GTK+ project. 
It looks very exciting, might not be a programmer I don't know how to use it.

With the Microsoft on-screen keyboard what appears not to be working on the 
simple modifier keys. For example I 't use control X. I have to use cut from 
the edit menu. The Microsoft on-screen keyboard so works with any text field, 
for example I can enter a file name, but when a save it I can't use CONTROL C 
to save it. I can't use shift all the ALT key to modify a selection.

I see you that there are a number of books referenced in the GTK + project 
documentation. Do you know if there are reputable by a non-programmer mind?

As you can imagine, to have to keep returning to the gimp menu for even simple 
tasks is rather exhausting, especially because I work the mouse with my nose.

Many thanks for listening.

Steve
 From: Jehan Pagès 
 To: Ringbat  
Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" 
 Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017, 3:43
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 
2.8
  

 
Hello!

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Ringbat via gimp-user-list
 wrote:
> Microsoft on screen keyboard doesn't seem to work using gimp. I use the
> keyboard with a mouse due to my disability. I am working on a Windows 7
> platform using gimp 2.8. Any ideas where I can go to get advice or better
> still a workaround. I have tried at the on-screen keyboards , but I seem to
> get the same problem.

Have you tried any other program using the GTK+ toolkit by any chance?
Do you have the same issue there?
Also what doesn't work exactly? The on-screen keyboard does not pop up
when your cursor enter a text field? It pops up but it won't write
into the field?

Jehan

> Thanks for reading.
>
> Ringbat
>
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 2.8

[stephen burton via gimp-user-list]

Hello Richard,

Thanks for your tests. I am using Windows 7 professional not 10. And gimp 2.8. 
20. The OSK keyboard does have function keys, but you have to press FN key to 
review them. Also my space bar works when I enter a text field. The keyboard 
does have Esc key. In fact, it's the first key on my keyboard.

I have not tried taking the focus from the main canvas window. But I'm not sure 
how that will work.

I have tried one other virtual keyboard, but it seems the result is the same. 
If one of you guys can suggest a workaround which did not involve me in 
learning C basic or any other programming language, I would be very grateful. 
(Not meant as a sarcastic response).

Steve
  From: Richard 
 To: Jehan Pagès ; Ringbat 
 
Cc: "gimp-user-list@gnome.org" 
 Sent: Sunday, 26 November 2017, 17:44
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 
2.8
   
#yiv2724570901 #yiv2724570901 -- P 
{margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv2724570901 I gave it a test on my system 
(GIMP 2.8.22; Windows 10 64-bit, native 'Touch Keyboard' ) and witnessed the 
following:

- When a GUI control has the focus (e.g. text input box in any toolbox), 
everything works normally.

- When the main image canvas/window has the focus, only *character* keys seem 
to work; *navigation* keys (arrows, backspace) do not.  Spacebar does not work 
either, and this one's kind of critical to have when actually performing text 
entry.
- For the Text tool specifically, its on-canvas toolbox elements work fine but 
general text entry has the above-mentioned problem (the lack of a responding 
Spacebar renders the OSK practically worthless here).
- Keyboard shortcuts work normally (e.g. Ctwl+W to close active window, P to 
switch to Paintbrush).  However, only Ctrl and/or Shift based shortcuts work as 
the OSK does not feature an Alt key; you cannot, for example, move between 
image tabs/windows with their default mappings.
For a comparison, I tested the OSK in Inkscape and could not find any problems 
whatsoever, although the OSK does not include a row for Function keys (used to 
switch tools).
On an aside, I noticed that when selecting certain tools via keyboard 
(Perspective, Scale, Shear, etc.) they 'activate' (i.e. canvas overlay and 
settings dialog appears) immediately and the dialog receives focus (i.e. you 
cannot switch off the tool using keyboard).  This does not happen when 
selecting tools via mouse -- is that a bug?  It can be worked around quickly 
enough by cancelling the tool's dialogue but mind that the OSK does not include 
an Esc key.

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From: gimp-user-list  on behalf of Jehan 
Pagès 
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 7:43:27 PM
To: Ringbat
Cc: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Microsoft on-screen keyboard doesn't work with gimp 
2.8 Hello!

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Ringbat via gimp-user-list
 wrote:
> Microsoft on screen keyboard doesn't seem to work using gimp. I use the
> keyboard with a mouse due to my disability. I am working on a Windows 7
> platform using gimp 2.8. Any ideas where I can go to get advice or better
> still a workaround. I have tried at the on-screen keyboards , but I seem to
> get the same problem.

Have you tried any other program using the GTK+ toolkit by any chance?
Do you have the same issue there?
Also what doesn't work exactly? The on-screen keyboard does not pop up
when your cursor enter a text field? It pops up but it won't write
into the field?

Jehan

> Thanks for reading.
>
> Ringbat
>
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[Gimp-user] halftone images exporting...

[Danielle Mihm via gimp-user-list]

Hi, all the images I am exporting are only coming through halftone.  Can 
anybody think of a reason why?  The preview looks fine, but when it is put into 
our website, it comes up halftoned.

Thanks,
Danielle
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