kernel 2.4.2 debain question

2001-03-31 Thread cdowns

can some one tell me this ? why do i get the error:
make menuconfig
blah blah
make[1]: *** [ncurses] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/scripts/lxdialog'
make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
scavenger:/usr/src/linux#

when i have this:

scavenger:/usr/src/linux# dpkg --list | grep ncurses
ii  libncurses44.2-9  Shared libraries for terminal handling

ii  libncurses55.0-6.0potato1 Shared libraries for terminal handling

ii  ncurses-base   5.0-6.0potato1 Descriptions of common terminal types
ii  ncurses-bin5.0-6.0potato1 Terminal-related programs and man
pages
scavenger:/usr/src/linux#

and this:

scavenger:/usr/src/linux# cat /etc/ld.so.conf
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/local/lib
scavenger:/usr/src/linux#

i also make sure i did apt-get install kernel-package

am i crazy ? or just tired and missing something ?

thanks

-D


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Re: Sendmail / MTA Wars (Was Re: Nashua Tomorrow)

2001-03-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Jeff Macdonald wrote:
 Thanks, the presenter was me, Jeff Macdonald. Feel free to ask sendmail
 related questions.

  Well, okay, but only since you said so.  ;-)

  We've got a customer that wants certain individuals within their LAN to be
able to send and receive mail from local users (on the same mailhost), but not
be able to send or receive mail from outside their organization.  
Basically, they are worried that these users would abuse such a mail account,
by spending the whole day chatting with friends, forwarding chain letters and
viruses, etc., etc.  Some users are trusted not to abuse an outside email
address, though, so we can't just firewall SMTP off.  Is it possible to
accomplish this kind of control with Sendmail?

  Red Hat Linux 6.2 running Sendmail 8.9.3, if that matters.

  Proponents of other MTAs, if your particular favorite makes this particular
scenario easy, feel free to speak up... :-)

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Re: kernel 2.4.2 debain question

2001-03-31 Thread Mark Komarinski

I'm pretty sure you need ncurses-dev

-Mark

cdowns wrote:
 
 can some one tell me this ? why do i get the error:
 make menuconfig
 blah blah
 make[1]: *** [ncurses] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/scripts/lxdialog'
 make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2
 scavenger:/usr/src/linux#
 
 when i have this:
 
 scavenger:/usr/src/linux# dpkg --list | grep ncurses
 ii  libncurses44.2-9  Shared libraries for terminal handling
 
 ii  libncurses55.0-6.0potato1 Shared libraries for terminal handling
 
 ii  ncurses-base   5.0-6.0potato1 Descriptions of common terminal types
 ii  ncurses-bin5.0-6.0potato1 Terminal-related programs and man
 pages
 scavenger:/usr/src/linux#
 
 and this:
 
 scavenger:/usr/src/linux# cat /etc/ld.so.conf
 /usr/X11R6/lib
 /usr/local/lib
 scavenger:/usr/src/linux#
 
 i also make sure i did apt-get install kernel-package
 
 am i crazy ? or just tired and missing something ?
 
 thanks
 
 -D
 
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Web browsers (was: apt-get question)

2001-03-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, cdowns wrote:
 becuase this mozilla-m18 sucks

  Mozilla M18 is fairly old, at this point, relatively speaking.  (Despite the
propaganda, Debian's stable distribution doesn't always have the most stable
package for a given program, especially when the program is in rapid
development, as Mozilla is.)  There have been several major releases since M18
(0.6, 0.7, 0.8, and 0.8.1), fixing and adding quite a bit.  You may want to
try the latest release, 0.8.1.

  Or: I am currently using a nightly build from 2001-01-21, which is around
the 0.7 release of Mozilla, I believe.  You might want to try that.  I found
the 0.8 builds had some bugs that happened to aggravate me, so I'm currently
holding while the Mozilla people sort things out there.  But those bugs
might not aggravate you, so you might be best off with the 0.8.1 release after
all.

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Re: DHCP capture

2001-03-31 Thread Benjamin Scott

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Tom Rauschenbach wrote:
 Turning on the debug option of pppd is by definition useless. 

  I think you are still confused.  :-)

  Why is the debug option by definition useless?  Your stated goal is to
watch how the IP address is negotiated.  That is the primary purpose of the
debug option in the first place.  It seems tailor-made for what you are
asking.  What part of it are you unhappy with?

 If I have a pppd then it is too late. 

  pppd(8) is responsible for negotiating the IP address (among other things).  
Indeed, in many configurations, pppd(8) is the first program invoked as part
of PPP call-out process.  About all you can examine before pppd(8) is invoked
is a dial tone.  :-)

 If I have an IP address then it is too late.  I want to watch the
 negotiation that occurs to get the IP address.

  This is done by pppd(8).  Turn on the debug option.

 My machine can have a different IP address everytime I dial into my ISP.

  Right, most ISPs use a dynamic address pool, since the average customer does
not care about their IP address.

 I want to watch the conversation that takes place between my machine and
 the ISP before I have an IP address.

  There is more then one such conversation.

  You (or your software) has to initialize and dial the modem.  On Linux, this
is typically done by the chat(8) program, called from pppd(8).

  The modems talk to each other in some sort of elite modem-speak which mere
mortals cannot see or understand.  When they are done, you have a serial link
between you and the ISP.

  Then any pre-PPP login script needs to run.  That is, if your ISP uses a
human-readable terminal login prompt, your computer has to send the right
responses.  On Linux, this is typically handled by the same chat(8) script
mentioned above.  If your ISP just dumps you right into PPP negotiation after
connect, this conversation be skipped.

  Lastly, one end (you or the ISP) sends a PPP start sequence.  The other end
responds by starting PPP negotiation.  As part of the PPP link setup, an IP
address will be assigned to you.

  Which one of these did you want to watch?  Or all of them?  :-)

 No, sorry that's probably exactly what I have to do.  I suspect that the
 negotiation to determine things like line quality and baud rate take place
 in an analog domain ...

  Line quality and carrier rate are negotiated by the modem hardware.  The only
way to monitor *that* is by using a telephone line signal decoder.  I
understand such equipment usually costs around $20,000.

 Then, once my ISP and I know how to trade bits, we talk about about things
 like IP addresses and such.  That's the part I'm curious about.

  The debug option of pppd(8) includes just about every part of the PPP link
setup, so I suspect that will satisfy your curiosity.

  Have you actually gone and *tried* the debug option of pppd(8)?  :-)

 I looked into the kernel source last night and I think I've found the
 neighborhood of where I'd need to put my hacks, but it also looks to be
 timing sensitive so I still may not get there from here.

  If you've really got your heart set on monitoring the actual bits, outside
of the PPP software... you basically need to intercept the serial data to and
from pppd.  You can do this by allocating a pair of pseudo-ttys, connecting
pppd to one, the modem to the other, and sticking a serial debugger (basically
a character pass-thru program with decoding options, similar to a network
packet sniffer) in between.

  If you have an external modem and three serial ports, you can do it without
pseudo-ttys.  Call the serial ports S0, S1, and S2.  Tell pppd(8) to use S0.  
Connect the modem to S2.  Connect S0 and S1 with a null-modem cable.  Tell the
serial debugger to use S0 and S1.

  The details of all this, including where to obtain a serial debugger for
Linux, are left as an exercise to the reader.  :-)

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