Re: RH 7.2 GRUB Help

2002-04-02 Thread Ben Boulanger

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Greg Kettmann wrote:
 So here's the problem.  I put back my original hard drive as a slave on
 the IDE channel.  It comes up as a C: drive.  I tried adding it to the
 GRUB menu, but I can't get it to boot.  Should I be able to boot this
 Windows 98SE drive?  When I tell it to boot from (1,0) it just hangs,
 although first it does identify the drive as being VFAT or FAT32.  I
 tried using the Map (0,1) and Map (1,0).  I tried at least 20 different
 variations but couldn't get it to boot.  I don't have my notes with me
 right now but I used the commands exactly as stated in the GRUB manual.

Hi Greg,
I'm new to the list, so if your setup is common knowledge, I 
apologize.  In any case, is the new drive SCSI?  If so, your onboard IDE 
will take the first physical drive slots (C,D,E,F under dos/windows if 
you have 2 controllers).  I don't know of a way around that... I think 
you'd have to initialize your SCSI BIOS before your IDE BIOS, but maybe 
someone else has an idea there.

If it's not SCSI, and you're working with all IDE drives... I'd 
like to understand the setup a little better.  You've got 2 physical hard 
drives, 1 is the new one you installed RH7.2, dual boot with XP on and the 
other is your original 98/SE drive?  If you're sure you've got the jumpers 
on those configured to Master/Slave correctly, they should be working.  
What -might- be happening under XP, though, is that - IIRC - the physical 
disk's primary partitions get mapped first, so - if you have 2 drives, 
lets call them hda and hdb, and you have 2 partitions on hda and one on 
hdb (hda1, hda2, hdb1) then they'll map like this under windows:
hda1 - C:  (Assuming it's a windows partition type)
hdb1 - D:  ( )
hda2 - E:  ( )

Now, if you don't have a windows partition type on any of them, just bump 
up the lower ones... which - sounds to me like what could be going on for 
you - on hda1, you have linux - unrecognizeable partitionunder windows, 
So, hdb1 becomes C and hda2 becomes D 

There's a couple of ways to solve this that might work, one, you might try 
and throw a small linux partition in front of your 98/SE partition, making 
the primary be unrecognizeable... but that's really not as clean as just 
wiping the old drive and installing XP on there.  Not sure if it's a good 
size or not, but, that does seem the cleanest option all around.

Hope that helps,
Ben

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

If you are inside your network, and you are pointing the browser at the
external ip address, you may need to go through an external proxy to
properly route the traffic out then back in. It is possible that ATT is
blocking incomming http, but that is doubtful. You could give us the IP
address, and we could check it out from the outside ;-)


On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 10:11, Kenny Donahue wrote:
 Hi all,
 This is a little bit off topic but has anyone
 been able to get their Apache server working
 with the change from Mediaone.net to attbi.com?
 I am really stuck.  I changed my dyndns.org info
 to show ne.client2.attbi.com but I still get nothing.
 I tried changing apache to use port 91(random number)
 instead of 8080 in case attbi was blocking 8080.
 I tried using the IP address of my Linksys firewall
 directly so the port forward should pass it on but still
 nothing.  Even stranger, I don't see the attempt coming in
 in the Linksys log. Can anyone help?
 Thanks,
 Kenny
 
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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread plussier


In a message dated: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 10:11:44 EST
Kenny Donahue said:

Hi all,
This is a little bit off topic but has anyone
been able to get their Apache server working
with the change from Mediaone.net to attbi.com?
I am really stuck.  I changed my dyndns.org info
to show ne.client2.attbi.com but I still get nothing.
I tried changing apache to use port 91(random number)
instead of 8080 in case attbi was blocking 8080.
I tried using the IP address of my Linksys firewall
directly so the port forward should pass it on but still
nothing.  Even stranger, I don't see the attempt coming in
in the Linksys log. Can anyone help?

Someone recently asked me to scan their host and this is what 
resulted:

   Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
   Interesting ports on hostname.deleted.attbi.com (24.128.xxx.yyy):
   (The 1548 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
   Port   State   Service
   22/tcp openssh 
   25/tcp filteredsmtp
   67/tcp filtereddhcp
   137/tcpfilterednetbios-ns  
   138/tcpfilterednetbios-dgm 
   139/tcpfilterednetbios-ssn 


   Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 48 seconds

Of course, this doesn't show that they're filtering http, howerver, 
be forewarned, from what I hear, running a server at your end of an 
attbi connection *is* a violation of your service agreement, contrary 
to the way things were under M1.

They may be filtering http, I don't know.  The scan above states that 
the http all ports other than those listed are 'closed'.  I don't 
know if this person was/is running a web server or not.  I suspect 
not.

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Kenny Donahue

mike ledoux wrote:

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 On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 10:11:44AM -0500, Kenny Donahue wrote:
  This is a little bit off topic but has anyone
  been able to get their Apache server working
  with the change from Mediaone.net to attbi.com?

 Mine's working just fine on port 80 in Nashua, and was completely
 unaffected by any of the recent goofiness with MediaOne/ATT.

  I am really stuck.  I changed my dyndns.org info
  to show ne.client2.attbi.com but I still get nothing.

 That might be your problem:

mwl@voyager:~host ne.client2.attbi.com
mwl@voyager:~

 I suspect you're missing something fairly important there, like your
 actual hostname.  I also use dyndns.org, but I just point my dyndns
 names directly at my IP, and don't care what name my provider assigns.


I've tried using the hostname, direct IP, http//hMAC
address.ne.client2.attbi.com
but still nothing.  I am also in Nashua.  If yours is working, it looks
like I am the
monkey.
If you are using the IP address, do run some kind of app to update the IP
to dyndns.org?

TIA
Kenny

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Ben Boulanger

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Of course, this doesn't show that they're filtering http, howerver, 
 be forewarned, from what I hear, running a server at your end of an 
 attbi connection *is* a violation of your service agreement, contrary 
 to the way things were under M1.

It is, and it was even under M1.  We never enforced it back then, and 
they're still not right now.  I've been hearing rumors of the new comcast 
merger impacting this kind of thing (in fact, I've heard they're going to 
attempt to find people running NAT), but we'll see what happens.

As far as running a server goes, unless you're causing a problem (like 
running a DHCP server, which.. is now filtered by modem rules), they're 
not going to bother you.  Serious bandwidth hogs catch some attention, but 
we couldn't ever do anything about them, really.  The only people on the 
radar were people running quake servers, heavy mail servers, news servers, 
or offensive content web servers (child porn, unprotected regular porn, 
that kind of thing).

Ben

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread plussier


In a message dated: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 10:25:51 EST
mike ledoux said:


   mwl@voyager:~host ne.client2.attbi.com
   mwl@voyager:~

I suspect you're missing something fairly important there, like your
actual hostname.  I also use dyndns.org, but I just point my dyndns
names directly at my IP, and don't care what name my provider assigns.

Yeah, add your MAC address without the ':'s in front of the ne. 
portion of the address.
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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Jack Hodgson

Just as a datapoint, I've had my Apache Server accessible via my 
attbi account for a few months now. Seems to work OK. (eg. Nimbda 
seems to have no problem hitting the server, 10-20 times a day, and 
trying to infect me :-)  )

The way it's setup is, Apache is on my linux box, which is on my 
local net. The linux box is attached to my linksys router, which is 
attached to the attbi cable modem. I have port 80 forwarded, by the 
linksys, to the local ip number of my linux box.

By http'ing to the ip num of my linksys box, this worked OK from the 
moment I first turned it on. Later, I made my local linux box a 
subdomain of a domain I have hosted at a commercial service. So 
access to quadra.da4.com works OK too.

One of these days I'm gonna experiment with the mac num.attbi.com 
stuff to see if I can make it more self maintaining.

...be forewarned, from what I hear, running a server at your end of an
attbi connection *is* a violation of your service agreement, contrary
to the way things were under M1.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were right about this. But I looked at 
the agreement recently with this question in mind, and didn't see 
that restriction. Can you point me to the part you have in mind.

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Rich C


- Original Message -
From: Kenneth E. Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kenny Donahue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: gnhlug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: Apache server attbi question


 If you are inside your network, and you are pointing the browser at
the
 external ip address, you may need to go through an external proxy to
 properly route the traffic out then back in. It is possible that ATT
is
 blocking incomming http, but that is doubtful. You could give us the
IP
 address, and we could check it out from the outside ;-)


I have found this to  be the case with my setup, but I thought it was
due to my SMC router. When I set up a virtual host in the router to
route http port 80 to my internal machine (192.168.1.x) port 80, the web
site is NOT visible from inside the network, but it IS visible to people
outside. We have this same problem here at work with Microsoft's RAS
router software too. I don't know what the mechanism is, but somehow,
outgoing http requests to the same IP address are being ignored instead
of looped back.

Changing the port to something different either on the inside or outside
does not affect this behavior.

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Derek D. Martin

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At some point hitherto, Rich C hath spake thusly:
 I have found this to  be the case with my setup, but I thought it was
 due to my SMC router. When I set up a virtual host in the router to
 route http port 80 to my internal machine (192.168.1.x) port 80, the web
 site is NOT visible from inside the network, but it IS visible to people
 outside.

I believe what causes this is that the router forwards the source IP
and port (that of the client) to the virtual host as-is (i.e. it does
not NAT the client).  Since the IP address is internal, the server
sends the traffic to it directly, rather than back through the router.
The client is expecting a reply from www.myhost.com, but the return
traffic appears to come from 192.168.x.x instead of www.myhost.com, so
the IP stack throws it out.

If you want to test it from inside your network, you can use an open
proxy on someone else's network.  If you don't know of any (I don't),
then try surfing to it with anonymizer.com.  I can't test it easily
here, but I believe that will work.

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Komarinski

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 12:06, Derek D. Martin wrote:
 If you want to test it from inside your network, you can use an open
 proxy on someone else's network.  If you don't know of any (I don't),
 then try surfing to it with anonymizer.com.  I can't test it easily
 here, but I believe that will work.

Here's my setup (on ATT's network):

SMC Barricade forwarding all sorts of stuff to the server behind.
TZO.COM handling DNS for wayga.org (which points at the SMC).
Inside, I have a DNS server handling local stuff, but also does DNS
for wayga.org (noone else points to it).

In this case, both my DNS server and TZO are pointing at the same
(physical) machine, but at two different IP addresses.  Outside
the SMC, the addresses are returned by TZO and users find the SMC
box.  Inside, the local DNS server finds a response before it goes
outside, so it returns the internal address.  So no matter if I'm
inside or outside the network, I'll always hit the machine.

Anyone using Debian and Exim and doing user authentication?  The
exim docs are not a lot of help with this.

-Mark


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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Jack Hodgson

At 12:06 PM -0500 4/2/02, Derek D. Martin wrote:
  ...When I set up a virtual host in the router to
   route http port 80 to my internal machine (192.168.1.x) port 80, the web
  site is NOT visible from inside the network, but it IS visible to people
  outside.

I believe what causes this is that the router forwards the source IP
and port (that of the client) to the virtual host as-is (i.e. it does
not NAT the client)...

Although I haven't done the virtual host part, I had this problem at first too.

 From inside my local net I could only http, telnet, ftp, etc. to the 
linux box (also inside my local net) via the local net ip num.

But then I updated the firmware in my linksys router, and now I can 
use the external domain name, and/or ip num, and it routes everything 
OK.

Is this what's called loopback?

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Ben Boulanger

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote:
 I believe what causes this is that the router forwards the source IP
 and port (that of the client) to the virtual host as-is (i.e. it does
 not NAT the client).  Since the IP address is internal, the server
 sends the traffic to it directly, rather than back through the router.
 The client is expecting a reply from www.myhost.com, but the return
 traffic appears to come from 192.168.x.x instead of www.myhost.com, so
 the IP stack throws it out.

This is really interesting as I'm not seeing any of this with my setup.  
Technically, I should be, as I have a very similar setup.  If this is, in 
fact the cause, I'd like to try and reproduce it.  

My setup is as follows, if someone has an idea what I can change to 
reproduce this, it'd be great to know, or if it helps someone get past 
this problem, great!

Cablemodem - Switch (32 Port 802.1Q support) on Vlan 1
Linksys WAN - Switch on Vlan 1 (Public)
Linksys LAN - Switch on Vlan 2 (RFC1918)
Linux box - Switch on Vlan 2
Windows PC - Switch on Vlan 2

Linksys WAN Addr. Port 80, 25, 22 forwards to linux box

Linux:
hostname blackavar.com
DHCP server serving RFC1918 space (the linksys's is limited)
DNS Server for RFC1918 hosts
80 - Apache 1.3.22 

I can access both the RFC1918 IP or the Public IP from the Windows PC 
without any problems.  I don't believe this was at all different when I 
went direct into the Linksys's built in switch...  Shouldn't be, even in 
this case.  

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Ben Boulanger

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Jack Hodgson wrote:
  From inside my local net I could only http, telnet, ftp, etc. to the 
 linux box (also inside my local net) via the local net ip num.
 
 But then I updated the firmware in my linksys router, and now I can 
 use the external domain name, and/or ip num, and it routes everything 
 OK.

Ah hah!  I also have updated firmware.  Anyone seeing this problem with 
the updated firmware?

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Exim user authentication

2002-04-02 Thread Mark Komarinski

Okay, I'm banging my head against the wall, so time to look for help.

I've got exim running on a debian (unstable) box and I want to set up
user authentication so I can send mail if I'm outside the local
network.

I uncommented the lines in /etc/exim/exim.conf and restarted.
I created /etc/exim/passwd with variations of the following:

mkomarinski:KTD2xRiXt5yJw
(ps, that's 'foobar' run through mkpasswd - and it's not my real passwd)

The client I'm using is evolution, set for user authentication with
a user name of mkomarinski.

It's not working.

All I'm getting out of exim in the reject log is:

2002-04-02 13:49:14 Authentication failed for jackie.wayga.org
[192.168.1.30]: 535 Incorrect authentication data

The exim documentation is VERY sparse on how the /etc/exim/passwd
file is supposed to be set up, and I can't seem to find out how
to increase the logging to tell me everything possible.

Any ideas?  And saying use qmail/sendmail/postfix is not quite the
answer (yet).

-Mark




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Re: Exim user authentication

2002-04-02 Thread Cole Tuininga

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 13:58, Mark Komarinski wrote:
 The exim documentation is VERY sparse on how the /etc/exim/passwd
 file is supposed to be set up, and I can't seem to find out how
 to increase the logging to tell me everything possible.

In my experience, throwing more -vs in during exim's startup makes it
more verbose.

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Rich C


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From: Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Apache server attbi question


 I believe what causes this is that the router forwards the source IP
 and port (that of the client) to the virtual host as-is (i.e. it does
 not NAT the client).  Since the IP address is internal, the server
 sends the traffic to it directly, rather than back through the router.
 The client is expecting a reply from www.myhost.com, but the return
 traffic appears to come from 192.168.x.x instead of www.myhost.com, so
 the IP stack throws it out.


Yes that makes sense. Thanks. The way we get around it here is to have a
DNS entry in the local hosts file for each machine:

www.myhost.com 192.168.1.x

This overrides the external reference for that host and uses the
internal IP address. Therefore, all references to
www.myhost.com/directory are resolved properly.

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Rich C


- Original Message -
From: Derek D. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: Apache server attbi question


 I believe what causes this is that the router forwards the source IP
 and port (that of the client) to the virtual host as-is (i.e. it does
 not NAT the client).  Since the IP address is internal, the server
 sends the traffic to it directly, rather than back through the router.
 The client is expecting a reply from www.myhost.com, but the return
 traffic appears to come from 192.168.x.x instead of www.myhost.com, so
 the IP stack throws it out.


Yes that makes sense. Thanks. The way we get around it here is to have a
DNS entry in the local hosts file for each machine:

www.myhost.com 192.168.1.x

This overrides the external reference for that host and uses the
internal IP address. Therefore, all references to
www.myhost.com/directory are resolved properly.

Rich Cloutier
President, C*O
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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Derek D. Martin

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At some point hitherto, Rich C hath spake thusly:
  not NAT the client).  Since the IP address is internal, the server
  sends the traffic to it directly, rather than back through the router.
  The client is expecting a reply from www.myhost.com, but the return
  traffic appears to come from 192.168.x.x instead of www.myhost.com, so
  the IP stack throws it out.
 
 
 Yes that makes sense.

Sure, but the *real* question is whether or not it's what's really
going on!  ;-)  You might want to look at the traffic with a sniffer
to be sure.

 Thanks. The way we get around it here is to have a DNS entry in
 the local hosts file for each machine:

This will certainly do it, but I personally don't like maintaining
config files on individual hosts when alternatives exist to allow one
to make a change in one place, i.e. the DNS.  An exception is when
there is a mechanism in place to maintain master copies of such files,
and distribute them automagically to all the hosts on the network.

However, this can be accomplished quite nicely with BIND by running
multiple instances of it, one for internal hosts and another for
external hosts.  You can even run these multiple instances on the same
physical machine, by binding the several instances to different
addresses, if need be.  This isn't workable for every situation, but
it should work nicely for multi-homed servers or servers that use IP
aliasing.  :)

 This overrides the external reference for that host and uses the
 internal IP address. Therefore, all references to
 www.myhost.com/directory are resolved properly.

Note that not all services will regard /etc/nsswitch.conf when
resolving hosts.  Sendmail is a notable exception...  IIRC by default
on Linux systems, it doesn't use /etc/hosts at all, and IIRC by
default it also doesn't care about the nsswitch.conf file.  I was
given a rationale for this once, but I can't remember what it was.
There is a way to make it use nsswitch.conf, via configuration option.
But, as I recall, it must be set explicitly on Linux, where on other
Unix-like systems it is used by default.


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Re: RH 7.2 GRUB Help

2002-04-02 Thread Greg Kettmann

Hmmm, my problem is specific to GRUB.  I can easily boot the machine to any of
the OS's by rejumpering drives.  Here is my exact config.

Drive 0 (Primary, IDE)
Partition 1 - /boot - GRUB and Boot
Partition 2 - Windows XP (E: Drive)
Partition 3 - /
Partition 4 - first logical - swap
- second logical - F: Drive - Data

Drive 1 (Slave, IDE, same IDE Channel)
Partition 1 - Windows 98SE  (Drive C: both if rejumpered as master or in this
exact same configuration as recognized by Windows XP, I can mount it under Linux
as /mnt/win98se and easily read the drive (/dev/hdb1))

With this environment I can easily boot, via GRUB to both Windows XP and Linux.
The problem is that I can't boot the Windows 98SE drive.  Should I be able to?
I know this would not normally work but GRUB does some things to allow it (I
think).  I know the drives are up and running normally.  This is simply a GRUB
boot question.  Does anyone have something similar running?  The GRUB manual
gives some great advice but I can't get any combination to work.

TIA, GGK




Ben Boulanger wrote:

 On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Greg Kettmann wrote:
  So here's the problem.  I put back my original hard drive as a slave on
  the IDE channel.  It comes up as a C: drive.  I tried adding it to the
  GRUB menu, but I can't get it to boot.  Should I be able to boot this
  Windows 98SE drive?  When I tell it to boot from (1,0) it just hangs,
  although first it does identify the drive as being VFAT or FAT32.  I
  tried using the Map (0,1) and Map (1,0).  I tried at least 20 different
  variations but couldn't get it to boot.  I don't have my notes with me
  right now but I used the commands exactly as stated in the GRUB manual.

 Hi Greg,
 I'm new to the list, so if your setup is common knowledge, I
 apologize.  In any case, is the new drive SCSI?  If so, your onboard IDE
 will take the first physical drive slots (C,D,E,F under dos/windows if
 you have 2 controllers).  I don't know of a way around that... I think
 you'd have to initialize your SCSI BIOS before your IDE BIOS, but maybe
 someone else has an idea there.

 If it's not SCSI, and you're working with all IDE drives... I'd
 like to understand the setup a little better.  You've got 2 physical hard
 drives, 1 is the new one you installed RH7.2, dual boot with XP on and the
 other is your original 98/SE drive?  If you're sure you've got the jumpers
 on those configured to Master/Slave correctly, they should be working.
 What -might- be happening under XP, though, is that - IIRC - the physical
 disk's primary partitions get mapped first, so - if you have 2 drives,
 lets call them hda and hdb, and you have 2 partitions on hda and one on
 hdb (hda1, hda2, hdb1) then they'll map like this under windows:
 hda1 - C:  (Assuming it's a windows partition type)
 hdb1 - D:  ( )
 hda2 - E:  ( )

 Now, if you don't have a windows partition type on any of them, just bump
 up the lower ones... which - sounds to me like what could be going on for
 you - on hda1, you have linux - unrecognizeable partitionunder windows,
 So, hdb1 becomes C and hda2 becomes D

 There's a couple of ways to solve this that might work, one, you might try
 and throw a small linux partition in front of your 98/SE partition, making
 the primary be unrecognizeable... but that's really not as clean as just
 wiping the old drive and installing XP on there.  Not sure if it's a good
 size or not, but, that does seem the cleanest option all around.

 Hope that helps,
 Ben

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[off topic] legislation

2002-04-02 Thread Derek D. Martin

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If there is a particular bill introduced in the house of
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Protection Amendments of 2001, how can I find out if this bill has
been passed into law?

Please reply off-list to minimize off-topic posting.  :)

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Bill Mullen

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Rich C wrote:

 I have found this to  be the case with my setup, but I thought it was
 due to my SMC router. When I set up a virtual host in the router to
 route http port 80 to my internal machine (192.168.1.x) port 80, the web
 site is NOT visible from inside the network, but it IS visible to people
 outside. We have this same problem here at work with Microsoft's RAS
 router software too. I don't know what the mechanism is, but somehow,
 outgoing http requests to the same IP address are being ignored instead
 of looped back.

 Changing the port to something different either on the inside or outside
 does not affect this behavior.

I just set up a SmoothWall box this weekend as a router/firewall for a
friend's home net, and saw this same behavior. We took the Mandrake box
that had previously shared NAT and server duties and brought it inside,
with ports (including 80  8080) forwarded from the Smoothie. Local
connections to Apache are now only possible by giving the internal IP of
the server box; the old URL still works fine from the outside world - and
yes, he's on attbi. :)

One nice feature of SmoothWall is the inclusion of scripts to update any
one of several Dynamic DNS providers automagically - we used the one for
dhs.org (and it worked), but they include one for dyndns.org also.

As for using the hostname assigned by attbi, I've never had a problem with
it before or after the change from MediaOne. It just works. I have a
new domain, less than a week old,  using DNS from Granite Canyon; I just
set up a CNAME record to point to my attbi hostname, and all is well.

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 15:21, Bill Mullen wrote:

 Local
 connections to Apache are now only possible by giving the internal IP of
 the server box; the old URL still works fine from the outside world - and
 yes, he's on attbi. :)

This has nothing to do with ATT (for once). It's just the nature of
routing. Set your browser up to use a proxy server (Mediaone used to use
http://www.ne.mediaone.net/proxy/proxy.pac for auto configuration), and
it should work fine. The traffic has to go out of your network, then
back in.

C-Ya,
Kenny

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Re: Apache server attbi question

2002-04-02 Thread Bill Mullen

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Kenny Donahue wrote:

 I am really stuck.  I changed my dyndns.org info
 to show ne.client2.attbi.com but I still get nothing.
 I tried changing apache to use port 91(random number)
 instead of 8080 in case attbi was blocking 8080.
 I tried using the IP address of my Linksys firewall
 directly so the port forward should pass it on but still
 nothing.  Even stranger, I don't see the attempt coming in
 in the Linksys log. Can anyone help?

Well, not having direct experience with the Linksys, this is only a guess,
but are these ports being blocked at the router? On the SmoothWall box I
set up this weekend (see other post), there are two steps to a successful
port forward; first you set up the forwarding itself, then you tell the
router to allow connections on that port. The former without the latter
accomplishes nothing, as the packets never arrive to be forwarded.

Perhaps something similar is going on there.

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Re: RH 7.2 GRUB Help

2002-04-02 Thread Bill Mullen

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Greg Kettmann wrote:

 Hmmm, my problem is specific to GRUB.  I can easily boot the machine to any of
 the OS's by rejumpering drives.  Here is my exact config.

 Drive 0 (Primary, IDE)
 Partition 1 - /boot - GRUB and Boot
 Partition 2 - Windows XP (E: Drive)
 Partition 3 - /
 Partition 4 - first logical - swap
 - second logical - F: Drive - Data

 Drive 1 (Slave, IDE, same IDE Channel)
 Partition 1 - Windows 98SE  (Drive C: both if rejumpered as master or in this
 exact same configuration as recognized by Windows XP, I can mount it under Linux
 as /mnt/win98se and easily read the drive (/dev/hdb1))

 With this environment I can easily boot, via GRUB to both Windows XP and Linux.
 The problem is that I can't boot the Windows 98SE drive.  Should I be able to?
 I know this would not normally work but GRUB does some things to allow it (I
 think).  I know the drives are up and running normally.  This is simply a GRUB
 boot question.  Does anyone have something similar running?  The GRUB manual
 gives some great advice but I can't get any combination to work.

Well, I'm a LILO user, so my GRUB knowledge is sketchy, but I can get LILO
to jump through this hoop, so GRUB must somehow be able to also.

In /etc/lilo.conf, I would make an entry thusly:

other=/dev/hdb1
 label=Win98se
 table=/dev/hdb
 map 0x80
   to 0x81
 map 0x81
   to 0x80

The two map/to pairs are the only difference from a stock entry.

What they do:

Fool the BIOS into thinking that hda is hdb and vice versa.

Why you need to do it:

Because Win98 is very fussy about what drive it's on. It was on C: when
you installed it, it wants to be on C: when it runs - and unlike XP, it
starts counting drive letters from /dev/hda1. So, while running *XP* the
hdb1 partition is seen as C:, but while attempting to run *98se* the same
partition is seen as E: (because it's the third FAT partition, counting up
from hda1). 98se says, Hey, I'm not on C:, I'm not going anywhere.

The LILO entry means that when booting this o/s, first swap the drives in
the BIOS so that this o/s thinks that *it* is on hda, and the *other* disk
is hdb.

Find the GRUB equivalent (or switch to LILO), and you're in business. :)

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Re: [off topic] legislation

2002-04-02 Thread Derek D. Martin

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Thanks to everyone who replied.  I found what I was looking for. :)

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Anyone know what P3P is?

2002-04-02 Thread Steven W. Orr

There's an article in this months Linux Journal which sez that I'm able to 
configure my browser to only allow visits to P3P certified sites. I can't 
find it in either Netscape or Mozilla. Anyone know where this is 
configured?

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Re: Anyone know what P3P is?

2002-04-02 Thread Ben Boulanger

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Steven W. Orr wrote:

 There's an article in this months Linux Journal which sez that I'm able to 
 configure my browser to only allow visits to P3P certified sites. I can't 
 find it in either Netscape or Mozilla. Anyone know where this is 
 configured?

http://www.w3.org/P3P/

http://www.w3.org/P3P/implementations

Looks like only IE6 has implemented it, but I only see how to view the 
report, not only allow P3P sites that have them..



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Re: [off topic] legislation

2002-04-02 Thread Constantine 'Gus' Fantanas

The web site http://thomas.loc.gov (no www) should list it. It has 
been around since early 1996 and has gone through several face changes 
since then. It comes with an excellent search engine which can locate 
and display the text of any bill introduced to either House and all the 
subsequent changes/amendments. If such a bill was signed into law, that 
should be shown clearly. There are many different kinds of keys that can 
be used for search on that site. If I am not mistaken, last time I 
visited it, it listed bills dating back to at least 1992, if not earlier.

Beware that the above Thomas web site has a certain latency, which  in 
the past I  found it to be of the order of one day. Some legislators 
seem to be aware of it and try to circumvent it by introducing their 
bills as amendments to bills about to be voted on.

CF

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I know a lot of people here are politically active, so I thought this
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If there is a particular bill introduced in the house of
representatives, say for example H.R. 1052-Consumer Credit Card
Protection Amendments of 2001, how can I find out if this bill has
been passed into law?

Please reply off-list to minimize off-topic posting.  :)

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