Re: Internet Shutdown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No, this thing has been going around for about a week now. I've gotten 3 or 4 copies. All it takes is changing the From: header on your outgoing mail. Someone did this and then sent it to gnhlug, probably from within zk3 :) (Bayard? ;) Not guilty, your honor. The dragon did it: Received: from dragon.inside.ntisys.com (h-64-105-111-43.CMBRMAOR.covad.net [64.105.111.43]) by itchy.ntisys.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2Q0FqD21862; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 19:15:52 -0500 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from anw.zk3.dec.com by oflume.zk3.dec.com (8.11.6/1.1.22.3/03Mar00-0551AM) id g2TIqcR00819; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:52:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by anw.zk3.dec.com (8.9.3/1.1.22.2/08Sep98-0251PM) id NAA0001019750; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:52:26 -0500 (EST) Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] There was one individual who spotted this Friday afternoon and ordered Ben to the Principal's office, but sadly, I deleted that e-mail. As good as our systems are here, I know they're not good enough to shutdown the Internet. Houston won't let us... (Darn! :-). Happy Monday, everyone! Bayard * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 12:14, Rich C wrote: I also heard a team of Qwest engineers were going to ride the lines looking for these stuck dark bits. Finally - something in this thread that I CAN believe. I have no problem whatsoever believing Qwest would do this. 8) -- I haven't lost my mind! It's backed up on disk somewhere... Cole Tuininga Lead Developer Code Energy, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] (603) 766-2208 PGP Key ID: 0x43E5755D * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Internet Shutdown
*** Attention *** It's that time again! As many of you know, each year the Internet must be briefly shut down in order to allow us to clean it. The cleaning process, which eliminates dead email and inactive ftp, www and gopher sites, allows for a better-working and faster Internet. This year, the cleaning process will take place from Monday, 1 April, from 01:00 AM to 10:30 PM. During that period, five powerful Internet-crawling robots situated around the world will search the Internet and delete any data that they find. In order to protect your valuable data from deletion we ask that you do the following: 1. Disconnect all terminals and local area networks from their Internet connections. 2. Shut down all Internet servers, or disconnect them from the Internet. 3. Disconnect all disks and hard-drives from any connections to the Internet. 4. Refrain from connecting any computer to the Internet in any way. We understand the inconvenience that this may cause some Internet users, and we apologize. However, we are certain that any inconveniences will be more than made up for by the increased speed and efficiency of the Internet, once it has been cleared of electronic flotsam and jetsam. We thank you for your cooperation. Sincerely, Louis Nogard Tercel Senior Internet Administrator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers http://www.icann.org * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
Mr. Scott - report to the principal's office IMMEDIATELY! * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
Are you sure that's not just a .NET shutdown? What program are they using? Norton Internet Sweep 2001? Do I have to physically unplug my machines or is leaving them off enough? If I leave my computer on will my Browser cache be cleaned out too? Do they have a backup of the internet in case something goes wrong? * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
No, all the ISP engineers are going to unplug all their wires, modems, routers, and thoroughly clean them to make sure there are no loose bits. When the net comes back up, performance should be much better because all email that has been in limbo for years will have been removed. On 29 Mar 2002 at 16:49, Rich C wrote: Are you sure that's not just a .NET shutdown? What program are they using? Norton Internet Sweep 2001? Do I have to physically unplug my machines or is leaving them off enough? If I leave my computer on will my Browser cache be cleaned out too? Do they have a backup of the internet in case something goes wrong? * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associate Director Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
Great! Can you e-mail me when they're done? On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 16:56, Jerry Feldman wrote: No, all the ISP engineers are going to unplug all their wires, modems, routers, and thoroughly clean them to make sure there are no loose bits. When the net comes back up, performance should be much better because all email that has been in limbo for years will have been removed. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
In a message dated: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:56:13 EST Jerry Feldman said: No, all the ISP engineers are going to unplug all their wires, modems, routers, and thoroughly clean them to make sure there are no loose bits. Well, there is that, but I believe I might have read somewhere that one of the major backbone carriers is planning on snaking their fiber optic cables. It seems that a bunch of '1' bits have gotten stuck sideways in the fiber over the years and is really causing a backup of data flow along major trunk lines. -- Seeya, Paul * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
DId anyone note the headers on this? Looks like it originated with Majordomo within Compaq. I wonder if the system got hacked?! Internet Administrator wrote: *** Attention *** It's that time again! As many of you know, each year the Internet must be briefly shut down in order to allow us to clean it. The cleaning process, which eliminates dead email and inactive ftp, www and gopher sites, allows for a better-working and faster Internet. This year, the cleaning process will take place from Monday, 1 April, from 01:00 AM to 10:30 PM. During that period, five powerful Internet-crawling robots situated around the world will search the Internet and delete any data that they find. In order to protect your valuable data from deletion we ask that you do the following: 1. Disconnect all terminals and local area networks from their Internet connections. 2. Shut down all Internet servers, or disconnect them from the Internet. 3. Disconnect all disks and hard-drives from any connections to the Internet. 4. Refrain from connecting any computer to the Internet in any way. We understand the inconvenience that this may cause some Internet users, and we apologize. However, we are certain that any inconveniences will be more than made up for by the increased speed and efficiency of the Internet, once it has been cleared of electronic flotsam and jetsam. We thank you for your cooperation. Sincerely, Louis Nogard Tercel Senior Internet Administrator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers http://www.icann.org * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. * * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Internet Shutdown It seems that a bunch of '1' bits have gotten stuck sideways in the fiber over the years and is really causing a backup of data flow along major trunk lines. Um, excuse me, but there are no 1 and 0 bits in fiber optic cable. There are only light and dark bits. The fiber optic transceivers must make the translation. And I heard it was dark bits that were stuck in the cables. I also heard a team of Qwest engineers were going to ride the lines looking for these stuck dark bits. Rich Cloutier President, C*O SYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICES www.sysupport.com * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
Yes, I think that is true too of our friends at Verizon :-) On 29 Mar 2002 at 17:14, Rich C wrote: Um, excuse me, but there are no 1 and 0 bits in fiber optic cable. There are only light and dark bits. The fiber optic transceivers must make the translation. And I heard it was dark bits that were stuck in the cables. I also heard a team of Qwest engineers were going to ride the lines looking for these stuck dark bits. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associate Director Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, at 5:10pm, Bruce Dawson wrote: DId anyone note the headers on this? Looks like it originated with Majordomo within Compaq. They all look like that. The listbot sanitizes the headers when it resends list postings. In this case, since the list only allows posts from subscribers (and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not subscribed), we also have the fact that the original message was held until the listmaster could release it. Finally, the ZK3 mail systems have some sort of issue with empty To: lines, which is where that @flume.zk3.dec.com fruitcake comes from. The original message was simply sent as follows: To: All Internet Users :; -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
I did a quick check on it myself. I know originiating the host names and I suspect that I know who sent it. I doubt it was a hack. On 29 Mar 2002 at 17:10, Bruce Dawson wrote: DId anyone note the headers on this? Looks like it originated with Majordomo within Compaq. I wonder if the system got hacked?! -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Associate Director Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
Aha! That would explain the concern I've heard recently about access to "dark fiber", right? That would be what you get when there are too many dark bits stuck in it, and then it's necessary to access it so you can flush out the dark bits and light it up to resurrect service -brucem Rich C wrote: 003401c1d745$2106e5e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]"> - Original Message -From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Jerry Feldman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: "GNHLUG" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:00 PMSubject: Re: Internet Shutdown It seems that a bunch of '1' bits have gotten stucksideways in the fiber over the years and is really causing a backupof data flow along major trunk lines. Um, excuse me, but there are no "1" and "0" bits in fiber optic cable.There are only "light" and "dark" bits. The fiber optic transceiversmust make the translation. And I heard it was dark bits that were stuckin the cables. I also heard a team of Qwest engineers were going to ridethe lines looking for these stuck dark bits.Rich CloutierPresident, C*OSYSTEM SUPPORT SERVICESwww.sysupport.com*To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body.*
Re: Internet Shutdown
In a message dated: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:10:34 EST Bruce Dawson said: Did anyone note the headers on this? Looks like it originated with Majordomo within Compaq. I wonder if the system got hacked?! No, this thing has been going around for about a week now. I've gotten 3 or 4 copies. All it takes is changing the From: header on your outgoing mail. Someone did this and then sent it to gnhlug, probably from within zk3 :) (Bayard? ;) -- Seeya, Paul It may look like I'm just sitting here doing nothing, but I'm really actively waiting for all my problems to go away. If you're not having fun, you're not doing it right! * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
DId anyone note the headers on this? Looks like it originated with Majordomo within Compaq. I wonder if the system got hacked?! No, this is a much more momentous occasion: as a result of constant exposure to email messages that reflect the penetrating insight and subtle complexity of GNHLUG members, the Majordomo server at ZK3 has attained sentience and even a rudimentary sense of humour; the server itself generated the message! A reporter from the Nashua Telegraph already contacted me and asked if I could recommend a GNHLUG member to make a comment for the record - any takers? * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
At 05:14 PM 3/29/2002 -, Rich C wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: GNHLUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Internet Shutdown It seems that a bunch of '1' bits have gotten stuck sideways in the fiber over the years and is really causing a backup of data flow along major trunk lines. Um, excuse me, but there are no 1 and 0 bits in fiber optic cable. There are only light and dark bits. The fiber optic transceivers must make the translation. And I heard it was dark bits that were stuck in the cables. I also heard a team of Qwest engineers were going to ride the lines looking for these stuck dark bits. Rich Cloutier I thought the dark bits only traveled over dark fiber ? or was that dark matter ? -- Jeff Kinz, Emergent Research, Hudson, MA. Email may contain words incorrectly generated by Speech Recognition software. [EMAIL PROTECTED] copyright 1997-2002. Use restricted to non-UCE uses. Any other use is an acceptance of the offer at www.ultranet.com/~jkinz/policy.html. * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, at 8:05pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, excuse me, but there are no 1 and 0 bits in fiber optic cable. There are only light and dark bits. The fiber optic transceivers I thought the dark bits only traveled over dark fiber ? Do they use dark suckers to generate dark bits? -- Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] | The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not | | necessarily represent the views or policy of any other person, entity or | | organization. All information is provided without warranty of any kind. | * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
Re: Internet Shutdown
OK! Now you have all done it! My bit bucket is so full of dark matter that I had to send an intern out to empty it. He still hasn't come back yet. Please close down this thread before the entire Internet is filled up. If you all keep this up I am sure they will have to shut the internet down early. It's bad enough that I am losing the ability to work on the 1st. Thanks, Rich * To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text 'unsubscribe gnhlug' in the message body. *
