Re: Laptop installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [disclaimer: I missed the beginning of this thread somehow, so if this post makes no sense, that's why! :)] If you have it on your system, I think you can use openvt to start a copy of say, bash, on a virtual console. I'm not sure if this will actually work, since I haven't tried it and I don't have it installed, but if you can boot from a floppy to get into your system, or boot to single user mode, you can try adding a line like this to /etc/inittab: The thread was about problems during an install. Many people have found that, while installing Red Hat 6.1 by FTP, there is a 20 minute wait between each and every package being installed. I saw some stuff about pump having problems in 6.1. Did anyone wait for 20 minutes, or just assume that the system was hung? Would pump be running during an FTP install? ps isn't available, but /proc is. I was trying to find out how to determine what processes were waiting on, without most of the usual tools. Bob Sparks Linux guru wannabe ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Laptop installation
If you are installing the system using dynamic IP addresses (DHCP or BOOTP), then yes, pump would be running. Pump took the place of dhcpc as of RH 6.1 I believe. And, yes, there are problems with pump. Not just in RH6.1, but in 6.0 as well. In a few docs that I have read, it is highly recommended that you remove pump and install the latest version of dhcpc. Kenny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thread was about problems during an install. Many people have found that, while installing Red Hat 6.1 by FTP, there is a 20 minute wait between each and every package being installed. I saw some stuff about pump having problems in 6.1. Did anyone wait for 20 minutes, or just assume that the system was hung? Would pump be running during an FTP install? ps isn't available, but /proc is. I was trying to find out how to determine what processes were waiting on, without most of the usual tools. ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Laptop installation
On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but ps isn't available at that point, even if it might be installed. We don't know where to find it. And the processes most likely are not running, but waiting on something. If we only knew what that something was. I never saw this happen before, but several others are seeing it. [disclaimer: I missed the beginning of this thread somehow, so if this post makes no sense, that's why! :)] If you have it on your system, I think you can use openvt to start a copy of say, bash, on a virtual console. I'm not sure if this will actually work, since I haven't tried it and I don't have it installed, but if you can boot from a floppy to get into your system, or boot to single user mode, you can try adding a line like this to /etc/inittab: zz:respawn:/usr/bin/openvt -l bash Add this BEFORE all the rc lines about half way down, and I think it will start bash on the first available tty at boot time (which should be /dev/tty1, the first virtual console). Can anyone verify this? -- "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?""Who watches the watchmen?" -Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347 Derek D. Martin | Senior UNIX Systems/Network Administrator Arris Interactive| A Nortel Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Laptop installation
Quoting PK Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm trying to install RH6.1 on a 486 laptop with 16-bit pcmcia slots via http. I myself tried and tried, and what I finally gave up and decided was this: Under RH 6.1, you can do a network install normally, and you can do a normal PCMCIA install off of a PCMCIA CD, etc, but it doesn;t appear to me that you can do a network install OVER a PCMCIA network card. If you find otherwise, please, let me know. Under 6.0, it was a different story, and you could, becouse they had a PCMCIA driver disk, but 6.1 doesn't seem to have these 'driver' disks any longer, and the 6.1 pcmcia disk is actually a boot disk that has PCMCIA support for CD installs, but *NOT* network installs.. Go figure.. --- Thomas Charron Wanted: One decent sig Preferably litle used and stored in garage. ? ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Laptop installation
Hi, Any ideas on how to see what processes are causing the delay? ctrl+alt+F#, root, ps axuw |more? It should work. Ferenc ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
RE: Laptop installation
Actually, I have done 3 network installs on laptops using RH 6.1. The FTP install never works for me because unlike 6.0, you can't do a non-anonymous FTP. I ended mounting the CD on a system under the /home/httpd/html/rh directory ( I created the rh dir under this path) and did an http install. I've done the installs on an IBM 560E, 380EX, and an AST VERSA-M (486 system). I've never had any of the problems that are being discussed, so maybe it's a problem with the FTP and/or NFS installs. FYI, Kenny Kenneth E. Lussier FISC-RMS 563-3444 "The best things (software) in life are FREE" -Original Message- From: Thomas Charron [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 9:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Laptop installation Quoting PK Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm trying to install RH6.1 on a 486 laptop with 16-bit pcmcia slots via http. I myself tried and tried, and what I finally gave up and decided was this: Under RH 6.1, you can do a network install normally, and you can do a normal PCMCIA install off of a PCMCIA CD, etc, but it doesn;t appear to me that you can do a network install OVER a PCMCIA network card. If you find otherwise, please, let me know. Under 6.0, it was a different story, and you could, becouse they had a PCMCIA driver disk, but 6.1 doesn't seem to have these 'driver' disks any longer, and the 6.1 pcmcia disk is actually a boot disk that has PCMCIA support for CD installs, but *NOT* network installs.. Go figure.. --- Thomas Charron Wanted: One decent sig Preferably litle used and stored in garage. ? ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug ** ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Laptop installation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, Any ideas on how to see what processes are causing the delay? ctrl+alt+F#, root, ps axuw |more? It should work. Ferenc Thanks, but ps isn't available at that point, even if it might be installed. We don't know where to find it. And the processes most likely are not running, but waiting on something. If we only knew what that something was. I never saw this happen before, but several others are seeing it. Bob Sparks ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Laptop installation
Hi, Thanks, but ps isn't available at that point, even if it might be installed. Do you have proc filesystem? Probably not though. I only installed debian and slackware so far. Well, a couple of days ago I assisted during a redhat 6.1 install, but it never waited for anything. The only problem was the awkward fdisk-style program in the setup, but we just changed to another tty and ran the normal fdisk, otherwise everything went smooth. Ferenc ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **
Re: Laptop installation
OK, Now I can answer this one. Two ofthe laptops had 3c589D NICs and the other one has a 3Com FE574B 10/100 NIC. Kenny Thomas Charron wrote: Hrm, I hadn't tried using HTTP.What PCMCIA NIC cards did you use? ** To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the following text in the *body* (*not* the subject line) of the letter: unsubscribe gnhlug **