Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-09 Thread Bobnhlinux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 [disclaimer: I missed the beginning of this thread somehow, so if this
  post makes no sense, that's why! :)]
  
  If you have it on your system, I think you can use openvt to start a copy
  of say, bash, on a virtual console.  I'm not sure if this will actually
  work, since I haven't tried it and I don't have it installed, but if you
  can boot from a floppy to get into your system, or boot to single user
  mode, you can try adding a line like this to /etc/inittab:
  
The thread was about problems during an install. Many people have
found that, while installing Red Hat 6.1 by FTP, there is a 20 minute wait
between each and every package being installed. I saw some stuff
about pump having problems in 6.1. Did anyone wait for 20 minutes,
or just assume that the system was hung? Would pump be running
during an FTP install? ps isn't available, but /proc is. I was trying to find
out how to determine what processes were waiting on, without most
of the usual tools.
Bob Sparks
Linux guru wannabe

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Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-09 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

If you are installing the system using dynamic IP addresses (DHCP or
BOOTP), then yes, pump would be running. Pump took the place of dhcpc as
of RH 6.1 I believe. And, yes, there are problems with pump. Not just in
RH6.1, but in 6.0 as well. In a few docs that I have read, it is highly
recommended that you remove pump and install the latest version of
dhcpc.
Kenny 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The thread was about problems during an install. Many people
 have found that, while installing Red Hat 6.1 by FTP, there is a
 20 minute wait between each and every package being installed. I
 saw some stuff about pump having problems in 6.1. Did anyone
 wait for 20 minutes, or just assume that the system was hung?
 Would pump be running during an FTP install? ps isn't available,
 but /proc is. I was trying to find out how to determine what
 processes were waiting on, without most of the usual tools.

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Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-08 Thread Derek Martin

On Mon, 7 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, but ps isn't available at that point, even if it might be installed.
 We don't know where to find it. And the processes most likely are
 not running, but waiting on something. If we only knew what that
 something was. I never saw this happen before, but several others
 are seeing it.

[disclaimer: I missed the beginning of this thread somehow, so if this
post makes no sense, that's why! :)]

If you have it on your system, I think you can use openvt to start a copy
of say, bash, on a virtual console.  I'm not sure if this will actually
work, since I haven't tried it and I don't have it installed, but if you
can boot from a floppy to get into your system, or boot to single user
mode, you can try adding a line like this to /etc/inittab:

zz:respawn:/usr/bin/openvt -l bash

Add this BEFORE all the rc lines about half way down, and I think it will
start bash on the first available tty at boot time (which should be
/dev/tty1, the first virtual console). Can anyone verify this?


-- 
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-Juvenal, Satires, VI, 347 

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Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-07 Thread Thomas Charron

Quoting PK Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I'm trying to install RH6.1 on a 486 laptop with 16-bit pcmcia slots via
 http.

  I myself tried and tried, and what I finally gave up and decided was this:

  Under RH 6.1, you can do a network install normally, and you can do a normal 
PCMCIA install off of a PCMCIA CD, etc, but it doesn;t appear to me that you 
can do a network install OVER a PCMCIA network card.

  If you find otherwise, please, let me know.  Under 6.0, it was a different 
story, and you could, becouse they had a PCMCIA driver disk, but 6.1 doesn't 
seem to have these 'driver' disks any longer, and the 6.1 pcmcia disk is 
actually a boot disk that has PCMCIA support for CD installs, but *NOT* network 
installs..  Go figure..

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Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-07 Thread Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan

Hi,
Any ideas on how to see what processes are causing the delay? 
ctrl+alt+F#, root, ps axuw |more? It should work.
Ferenc

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RE: Laptop installation

2000-02-07 Thread Lussier, Kenneth

Actually, I have done 3 network installs on laptops using RH 6.1. The FTP
install never works for me because unlike 6.0, you can't do a non-anonymous
FTP. I ended mounting the CD on a system under the /home/httpd/html/rh
directory ( I created the rh dir under this path) and did an http install.
I've done the installs on an IBM 560E, 380EX, and an AST VERSA-M (486
system). I've never had any of the problems that are being discussed, so
maybe it's a problem with the FTP and/or NFS installs.
FYI,
Kenny 

Kenneth E. Lussier
FISC-RMS
563-3444

"The best things (software) in life are FREE"

 -Original Message-
 From: Thomas Charron [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 9:37 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Laptop installation
 
 Quoting PK Whelan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  I'm trying to install RH6.1 on a 486 laptop with 16-bit pcmcia slots via
  http.
 
   I myself tried and tried, and what I finally gave up and decided was
 this:
 
   Under RH 6.1, you can do a network install normally, and you can do a
 normal 
 PCMCIA install off of a PCMCIA CD, etc, but it doesn;t appear to me that
 you 
 can do a network install OVER a PCMCIA network card.
 
   If you find otherwise, please, let me know.  Under 6.0, it was a
 different 
 story, and you could, becouse they had a PCMCIA driver disk, but 6.1
 doesn't 
 seem to have these 'driver' disks any longer, and the 6.1 pcmcia disk is 
 actually a boot disk that has PCMCIA support for CD installs, but *NOT*
 network 
 installs..  Go figure..
 
 --- 
 Thomas Charron
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  Preferably litle used  
  and stored in garage.  ?
 
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Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-07 Thread Bobnhlinux

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  Hi,
  Any ideas on how to see what processes are causing the delay? 
  ctrl+alt+F#, root, ps axuw |more? It should work.
  Ferenc
  
Thanks, but ps isn't available at that point, even if it might be installed.
We don't know where to find it. And the processes most likely are
not running, but waiting on something. If we only knew what that
something was. I never saw this happen before, but several others
are seeing it.

Bob Sparks

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Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-07 Thread Ferenc Tamas Gyurcsan

Hi,
Thanks, but ps isn't available at that point, even if it might be installed.
Do you have proc filesystem? Probably not though. I only installed debian and
slackware so far. Well, a couple of days ago I assisted during a redhat 6.1
install, but it never waited for anything. The only problem was the awkward
fdisk-style program in the setup, but we just changed to another tty and ran the
normal fdisk, otherwise everything went smooth.
Ferenc

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Re: Laptop installation

2000-02-07 Thread Kenneth E. Lussier

OK, Now I can answer this one. Two ofthe laptops had 3c589D NICs and the
other one has a 3Com FE574B 10/100 NIC.
Kenny 
Thomas Charron wrote:

Hrm, I hadn't tried using HTTP.What PCMCIA NIC cards did you use?

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