Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-27 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote:
  http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection
  Use the Watch Instantly box in the lower left to limit to diskless
  content.

 FYI, the above only works if you are not logged in to a Netflix account.
 If you are logged in, it redirects to WiHome page.
 Choosing SciFi category, for example, shows 17 titles when not logged in.
 Logging in to Netflix, shows 167 titles under that genre.

  Ah.  I specifically logged out to get that link, but didn't drill
down to make sure it had the same number of titles.  I confirm similar
behavior here.  Crud.

  Playing around, http://www.netflix.com/AllGenresList will get you
all the titles, but won't filter for diskless content.  Rather dumb of
them -- especially since they expose that info via a publicly
documented web API (that's how InstantWatcher.com works).

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Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-27 Thread Derek Atkins
Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com writes:

 On 1/26/2011 11:07 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
 Benjamin Scottdragonh...@gmail.com  writes:
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Mark E. Mallettm...@mv.mv.com  wrote:
 And interested in any other comments, of course, which is why I'm not
 replying off-list ..
I canceled cable TV and watch all my TV via Netflix and Hulu now.  I
 save $60+/month and have fewer commercials (none on Netflix).
 Is all your TV actually available on Netflix and Hulu?  A friend of mine
 was showing me HuluPlus on his home TV, but when I look online I can't
 easily see a list of shows avaiable, without signing up for a one-week
 trial account.  I kinda wish they would publish the lists of shows
 available before I subscribe to see if I want to subscribe.

 All I know is that SNL is available.

 TV = http://www.hulu.com/browse/tv
 Movies = http://www.hulu.com/browse/movies
 choose View as List in either case

Okay, so it looks like NBC, ABC, and FOX are available, but CBS and AMC
(for Mad Men) is not.

-derek
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Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-26 Thread Dan Jenkins
On 1/26/2011 11:07 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
 Benjamin Scottdragonh...@gmail.com  writes:
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Mark E. Mallettm...@mv.mv.com  wrote:
 And interested in any other comments, of course, which is why I'm not
 replying off-list ..
I canceled cable TV and watch all my TV via Netflix and Hulu now.  I
 save $60+/month and have fewer commercials (none on Netflix).
 Is all your TV actually available on Netflix and Hulu?  A friend of mine
 was showing me HuluPlus on his home TV, but when I look online I can't
 easily see a list of shows avaiable, without signing up for a one-week
 trial account.  I kinda wish they would publish the lists of shows
 available before I subscribe to see if I want to subscribe.

 All I know is that SNL is available.

TV = http://www.hulu.com/browse/tv
Movies = http://www.hulu.com/browse/movies
choose View as List in either case

For movies, change Display to All movies
For tv, choose All shows to include clips, but Shows with full 
episides only is the more useful filter.

This doesn't distinguish between Hulu and HuluPlus content, but, it's a 
help.

There's no equivalent listing I can find in Netflix.


 From this discussion, I learned a few things I didn't know. I hadn't 
realized that Silverlight (required for Netflix) works under Linux. That 
was pleasing to find out.

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Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-26 Thread Alan Johnson
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote:

 From this discussion, I learned a few things I didn't know. I hadn't
 realized that Silverlight (required for Netflix) works under Linux. That
 was pleasing to find out.


I've had a computer hooked up to my 52 TV for years now, even before I
started streaming Netflix.  Now I watch Hulu, Comedy Central, Amazon
OnDemand and misc content providers, but I dropped Netflix we when I
switched our TV computer to Ubuntu.  Is there really a Silverlight for
Linux?  I'd be tempted to renew our Netflix account if I could get it to
work without much hassle.  I'd be happier if it were not an M$ software, but
I see Flash as only slightly less evil and I happily made that concession a
while ago.  I looked through the previous thread you reference, but I don't
find Silverlight in there anywhere.  Is it a hack like IEs for Linux, or
is it straight up supported by M$?  Got a link handy?  I don't mind googling
on my own, so if it is not handy, don't bother.

Netflix online is such a better deal than Hulu Plus right now.  I too am
annoyed at no public list of exactly what you get with HuluPlus over Hulu
(exactly which shows you get full runs of, etc).  Also, while I am very
pleased with how Hulu has handled commercials so far (way less annoying than
most content servers), but paying to watch commercials just doesn't feel
right. =)

Say, are there any more Linux friendly competitors to Netflix out there?

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Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-26 Thread Ryan Stanyan
I think the Silverlight compatibility in Linux is from Novell's
Mono/Moonlight environment.
On Jan 26, 2011 2:06 PM, Alan Johnson a...@datdec.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote:

 From this discussion, I learned a few things I didn't know. I hadn't
 realized that Silverlight (required for Netflix) works under Linux. That
 was pleasing to find out.


 I've had a computer hooked up to my 52 TV for years now, even before I
 started streaming Netflix. Now I watch Hulu, Comedy Central, Amazon
 OnDemand and misc content providers, but I dropped Netflix we when I
 switched our TV computer to Ubuntu. Is there really a Silverlight for
 Linux? I'd be tempted to renew our Netflix account if I could get it to
 work without much hassle. I'd be happier if it were not an M$ software,
but
 I see Flash as only slightly less evil and I happily made that concession
a
 while ago. I looked through the previous thread you reference, but I don't
 find Silverlight in there anywhere. Is it a hack like IEs for Linux, or
 is it straight up supported by M$? Got a link handy? I don't mind googling
 on my own, so if it is not handy, don't bother.

 Netflix online is such a better deal than Hulu Plus right now. I too am
 annoyed at no public list of exactly what you get with HuluPlus over Hulu
 (exactly which shows you get full runs of, etc). Also, while I am very
 pleased with how Hulu has handled commercials so far (way less annoying
than
 most content servers), but paying to watch commercials just doesn't feel
 right. =)

 Say, are there any more Linux friendly competitors to Netflix out there?

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Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-26 Thread Dan Jenkins
On 1/26/2011 1:47 PM, Alan Johnson wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Dan Jenkinsd...@rastech.com  wrote
  From this discussion, I learned a few things I didn't know. I hadn't
 realized that Silverlight (required for Netflix) works under Linux. That
 was pleasing to find out.
 I looked through the previous thread you reference, but I don't
 find Silverlight in there anywhere.  Is it a hack like IEs for Linux, or
 is it straight up supported by M$?  Got a link handy?  I don't mind googling
 on my own, so if it is not handy, don't bother.

A misunderstanding on my part. I was doing some research on the side and 
found some references that it was working. Turns out it was just a 
virtual machine running Windows on a Linux host. There is no native 
Linux Silverlight, unless you count Moonlight, which, I gather, has some 
issues. My mistake.

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Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-26 Thread Benjamin Scott
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote:
 There's no equivalent listing I can find in Netflix.

http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection

  Use the Watch Instantly box in the lower left to limit to diskless content.

  Or try http://instantwatcher.com/ for a less pretty, but possibly
more powerful, UI.

  From this discussion, I learned a few things I didn't know. I hadn't
 realized that Silverlight (required for Netflix) works under Linux. That
 was pleasing to find out.

  Netflix needs Silverlight (an implementation of which *is* available
for Linux) and Microsoft's DRM libraries (which are not).

-- Ben

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Re: Netflix and Hulu [Was Re: Computer hardware for sale, cheap]

2011-01-26 Thread Alan Johnson
rant
Uhg.  I feel I new subject coming on, but I don't have the heart to go there
yet.  DRM is such a joke.  Pirate says: You put pixels on my screen?  I can
capture them.  Who do they think they are?  DRM serves no purpose but to
make it more difficult for legitimate users to get at the content they paid
good money for.  I'm a little annoyed that Amazon's down-loadable option is
for windows only, but their lose since I just use their bandwidth to stream
my videos in the Flash player, over and over and over...

Donkeys.
/rant
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Benjamin Scott dragonh...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Dan Jenkins d...@rastech.com wrote:
  There's no equivalent listing I can find in Netflix.

 http://www.netflix.com/BrowseSelection

  Use the Watch Instantly box in the lower left to limit to diskless
 content.

  Or try http://instantwatcher.com/ for a less pretty, but possibly
 more powerful, UI.

   From this discussion, I learned a few things I didn't know. I hadn't
  realized that Silverlight (required for Netflix) works under Linux. That
  was pleasing to find out.

   Netflix needs Silverlight (an implementation of which *is* available
 for Linux) and Microsoft's DRM libraries (which are not).

 -- Ben

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