Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
I have sabout 20 camis with and without bras built into them. The trend has been for the past 5+ years is to layer several camis over a bra with colored straps exposed. This created a kinda rainbow of multiple straps. This fashion evolved into another fashion last summer of a cami with a an oversized A-shape or swing top shape with a racer's swimsuit back shape. My daughter came in with one of these last night and my husband was trying to convince her that it was a wife-beater top. I have forgotten what she called it. For some reason I think she said it is called razorback. Underneath it the ladies/girls are wear a swimsuit top, cami, or strapless elastic band top. My daughter is 22 now. I remember when the cami trend started and she was in high school. We have several arguments in the beginning that it was underwear back then. Then she started layering them. She started lifeguarding and wearing a lot less to work, so I lost the battle. I do have to say when you are purchasing camis to make sure to look at the drawings on the package. So many of them state there is a bra built into them...actually it should be worded as a shelf and not bra. A shelf is a lining over the bust area with elastic under the bust. It has no padding and generally made of the same fabric as the outer portion. You can put bra pads in this area if you want, but don't could on them staying in place. I have a hard time medically wearing a bra and searched high and low for the camis with a built in cups...without the back strap of a bra. You can find lots with the back straps in lingerie sections and pay a lot more for them. Kmart is the best place to purchase the ones with just cups and no shelf. They have been carrying them for 4+ years and they are generally hanging. I do suggest to anyone purchasing camis to get ones with adjustable straps. Most camis are form fitting and if you get one with cups or a shelf, you don't want to bothered with straps bugging you or the shelf elastic riding up all day. If you have the opportunity to try it on before purchasing, do so. Each manufacturers sizing is different and a lot of the cami textiles have spandex or Lyrca in it. Don't be surprised if you generally wear a medium and need to go up to a large or extra large. Cami sizing is so weird. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
I think she said it is called razorback. That is racer back--This was, I believe, designed for serious competition swimsuits. Would stay in place and the swimmer wouldn't have to worry about it coming off the shoulders. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tue, Feb 4, 2014 4:38 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank? I have sabout 20 camis with and without bras built into them. The trend has been for the past 5+ years is to layer several camis over a bra with colored straps exposed. This created a kinda rainbow of multiple straps. This fashion evolved into another fashion last summer of a cami with a an oversized A-shape or swing top shape with a racer's swimsuit back shape. My daughter came in with one of these last night and my husband was trying to convince her that it was a wife-beater top. I have forgotten what she called it. For some reason I think she said it is called razorback. Underneath it the ladies/girls are wear a swimsuit top, cami, or strapless elastic band top. My daughter is 22 now. I remember when the cami trend started and she was in high school. We have several arguments in the beginning that it was underwear back then. Then she started layering them. She started lifeguarding and wearing a lot less to work, so I lost the battle. I do have to say when you are purchasing camis to make sure to look at the drawings on the package. So many of them state there is a bra built into them...actually it should be worded as a shelf and not bra. A shelf is a lining over the bust area with elastic under the bust. It has no padding and generally made of the same fabric as the outer portion. You can put bra pads in this area if you want, but don't could on them staying in place. I have a hard time medically wearing a bra and searched high and low for the camis with a built in cups...without the back strap of a bra. You can find lots with the back straps in lingerie sections and pay a lot more for them. Kmart is the best place to purchase the ones with just cups and no shelf. They have been carrying them for 4+ years and they are generally hanging. I do suggest to anyone purchasing camis to get ones with adjustable straps. Most camis are form fitting and if you get one with cups or a shelf, you don't want to bothered with straps bugging you or the shelf elastic riding up all day. If you have the opportunity to try it on before purchasing, do so. Each manufacturers sizing is different and a lot of the cami textiles have spandex or Lyrca in it. Don't be surprised if you generally wear a medium and need to go up to a large or extra large. Cami sizing is so weird. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
Jumping in here - just to make a comment: I on the other hand are looking for camis with a 'shelf'. My big problem is that the manufacturers don't make the straps LONG enough. Nor the body of the cami longer than 'standard'. If I want long - I have to go bigger, and then it hangs on me. I am 5' 6 and have a small boned, long torso, short rise body. I prefer all cotton, and no 'ornamentation'. Can anyone suggest a place to look? The boy's undershirts are now too small, and they only seem to make men's in white. Katheryne On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.comwrote: A shelf is a lining over the bust area with elastic under the bust. It has no padding and generally made of the same fabric as the outer portion. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
Costco's bra camis are very long, but they have some spandex in them. On 2/4/14 11:29 AM, Purple Kat purplkat...@gmail.com wrote: Jumping in here - just to make a comment: I on the other hand are looking for camis with a 'shelf'. My big problem is that the manufacturers don't make the straps LONG enough. Nor the body of the cami longer than 'standard'. If I want long - I have to go bigger, and then it hangs on me. I am 5' 6 and have a small boned, long torso, short rise body. I prefer all cotton, and no 'ornamentation'. Can anyone suggest a place to look? The boy's undershirts are now too small, and they only seem to make men's in white. Katheryne On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.comwrote: A shelf is a lining over the bust area with elastic under the bust. It has no padding and generally made of the same fabric as the outer portion. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Look at Target. The camis with the shelf bras have adjustable straps. pixel/jen * * * * The bank called. Your reality check bounced. On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Purple Kat wrote: Jumping in here - just to make a comment: I on the other hand are looking for camis with a 'shelf'. My big problem is that the manufacturers don't make the straps LONG enough. Nor the body of the cami longer than 'standard'. If I want long - I have to go bigger, and then it hangs on me. I am 5' 6 and have a small boned, long torso, short rise body. I prefer all cotton, and no 'ornamentation'. Can anyone suggest a place to look? The boy's undershirts are now too small, and they only seem to make men's in white. Katheryne On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.comwrote: A shelf is a lining over the bust area with elastic under the bust. It has no padding and generally made of the same fabric as the outer portion. Penny Ladnier, Owner The Costume Gallery Websites, www.costumegallery.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Ann Catelli wrote: Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank. When I first heard the term in about 1970 I wondered if it was something to do with military tanks. I've searched the H-cost archives and can't find the thread giving the swimsuit explanation, but Wikipedia agrees with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater_vest Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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A shirt with tiny straps is called a cami or camisole. Monica -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Ann Catelli Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:50 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank? Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank. Ann in CT On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 4:20 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com wrote: Here in the UK we would call it a vest, because it resembles the undergarment of that name. (Yes, I know a vest is a waistcoat in the US.) Out of interest, I looked at the website of a clothing company I use and they call them vests or occasionally camis, but the distinction between them is unclear. I first heard the term tank top 40 years ago to describe a sleeveless knitted pullover to be worn over a shirt for warmth. The name always puzzled me until I learned from this list that Americans used to call a swimming pool a tank and that the garment was named from those 1920s men's swimsuits. I don't think we would ever call the lightweight garment a tank over here. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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FWIW, here's what the OED has to say: tank suit n. U.S. a (ladies') one-piece bathing-suit with scooped neck (cf. maillot n. 2). 1959 P. Roth Goodbye, Columbus ii. 20 She wore a black tank suit and went barefooted. 1979 Dancemagazine Feb. 108/3 In Moth Dance, the lines of Hermans' tensed, slender body, in tanksuit and reflecting sunglasses, become clearer as the semidarkness grows lighter. tank top n. (a) the top of a tank; (b) a sleeveless upper garment with round neck and deep armholes, freq. of knitted material and similar to the top of a one-piece bathing-suit, worn by men or women; cf. tank suit n. above. 1900 Engin. Mag. 19 678 The margin plates of the tank top are put on, and the tank-top plating itself. 1968 New Yorker 27 Jan. 25 Miss Farrell—a tall, pretty ballerina dressed in a purple tank top and baggy rubber warm-up pants. 1971 Observer 1 Aug. 22/3 A favourite Paris idea is to put little woolly vests or tank tops over shirts and under suit jackets. 1977 C. Miller K. Swift Words Women 157 Even the latter have given up whalebone corsets and starched winged collars without assuming they have to switch to miniskirts or tank tops. --Charlene On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 4:13 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com wrote: Ann Catelli wrote: Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank. When I first heard the term in about 1970 I wondered if it was something to do with military tanks. I've searched the H-cost archives and can't find the thread giving the swimsuit explanation, but Wikipedia agrees with it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweater_vest Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
Here in the UK we would call it a vest, because it resembles the undergarment of that name. (Yes, I know a vest is a waistcoat in the US.) Out of interest, I looked at the website of a clothing company I use and they call them vests or occasionally camis, but the distinction between them is unclear. I first heard the term tank top 40 years ago to describe a sleeveless knitted pullover to be worn over a shirt for warmth. The name always puzzled me until I learned from this list that Americans used to call a swimming pool a tank and that the garment was named from those 1920s men's swimsuits. I don't think we would ever call the lightweight garment a tank over here. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Tank top because it was worn by tank crewmen, who'd strip down to that layer, UK vest layer, because it was very very hot inside a tank. Ann in CT On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 4:20 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com wrote: Here in the UK we would call it a vest, because it resembles the undergarment of that name. (Yes, I know a vest is a waistcoat in the US.) Out of interest, I looked at the website of a clothing company I use and they call them vests or occasionally camis, but the distinction between them is unclear. I first heard the term tank top 40 years ago to describe a sleeveless knitted pullover to be worn over a shirt for warmth. The name always puzzled me until I learned from this list that Americans used to call a swimming pool a tank and that the garment was named from those 1920s men's swimsuits. I don't think we would ever call the lightweight garment a tank over here. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor Derby, UK ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
I actually have one. Bought a decent dress at a thrift store for summer wear, but it is just a little low in front, so I bought one of the knit garments with spaghetti straps. It has a shelf bra, too--remember those from the '70s? And yes, my much younger co-workers call it a cami. BTW, it is also VERY long, so one could wear it with the extremely low-slung pants that still seem to be in vogue. That is one style that could go away, IMHO. Hard for us mature women to find pants that sit decently at the waist. Ann Wass In a message dated 1/6/2014 2:06:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sfsh...@gmail.com writes: LOL. This is definitely an age thing, I think. I have two daughters, ages 18 and 21. For years they've been calling that garment a cami or a camisole and it is not an undergarment, though it is often worn as a layer, but a layer that is exposed, either partly or entirely. And, in hot weather, it is worn alone. Neither of my daughters will wear a tank top, with cut-on shoulders. On 1/5/14, 9:28 PM, Sybella wrote: Hm. In my opinion, a camisole (or cami) is strictly an undergarment regardless of modern vernacular. LOL! Tank tops can be delicate in style...I would say what the OP is describing would be using the correct name if she called it a tank top. One could say tank top with spaghetti straps, maybe. Did you see the wiki page on this? I just looked it up. Whoever wrote it also mentions camisole. There are pictures at the bottom of the page, with all the variations that fall under tank tops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeveless_shirt On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Sharon Zakhour sfsh...@gmail.com wrote: cami or camisole On 1/5/14, 8:27 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Hi folks, I rarely wear sleeveless tops myself, so I'm waaay out of the loop about a popular item of modern summer clothing for women. What IS the little knit top with tiny straps called, nowadays? I think of a tank as sleeveless with wider shoulder straps. The skinny-strapped ones I think of as a chemise, but that isn't the name I'm looking for here. So what's the modern name for it, please? :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Thanks, everybody! It's for fiction. Guy normally clueless trying to describe woman who catches his eye. Would a guy know the name of said garment!? He's more likely to know what's in it than what it's called :) == Marjorie Wilser On Jan 6, 2014, at 2:36 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I actually have one. Bought a decent dress at a thrift store for summer wear, but it is just a little low in front, so I bought one of the knit garments with spaghetti straps. It has a shelf bra, too--remember those from the '70s? And yes, my much younger co-workers call it a cami. BTW, it is also VERY long, so one could wear it with the extremely low-slung pants that still seem to be in vogue. That is one style that could go away, IMHO. Hard for us mature women to find pants that sit decently at the waist. Ann Wass In a message dated 1/6/2014 2:06:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sfsh...@gmail.com writes: LOL. This is definitely an age thing, I think. I have two daughters, ages 18 and 21. For years they've been calling that garment a cami or a camisole and it is not an undergarment, though it is often worn as a layer, but a layer that is exposed, either partly or entirely. And, in hot weather, it is worn alone. Neither of my daughters will wear a tank top, with cut-on shoulders. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Yes it is an age thing. And I can see your girls not wearing the tank style. Younger girls don't. I've been unwilling to wear one due to needing support. Straps made for support look lousy under thinner straps :) == Marjorie On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:05 PM, Sharon Zakhour wrote: LOL. This is definitely an age thing, I think. I have two daughters, ages 18 and 21. For years they've been calling that garment a cami or a camisole and it is not an undergarment, though it is often worn as a layer, but a layer that is exposed, either partly or entirely. And, in hot weather, it is worn alone. Neither of my daughters will wear a tank top, with cut-on shoulders. On 1/5/14, 9:28 PM, Sybella wrote: Hm. In my opinion, a camisole (or cami) is strictly an undergarment regardless of modern vernacular. LOL! Tank tops can be delicate in style...I would say what the OP is describing would be using the correct name if she called it a tank top. One could say tank top with spaghetti straps, maybe. Did you see the wiki page on this? I just looked it up. Whoever wrote it also mentions camisole. There are pictures at the bottom of the page, with all the variations that fall under tank tops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeveless_shirt On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Sharon Zakhour sfsh...@gmail.com wrote: cami or camisole On 1/5/14, 8:27 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Hi folks, I rarely wear sleeveless tops myself, so I'm waaay out of the loop about a popular item of modern summer clothing for women. What IS the little knit top with tiny straps called, nowadays? I think of a tank as sleeveless with wider shoulder straps. The skinny-strapped ones I think of as a chemise, but that isn't the name I'm looking for here. So what's the modern name for it, please? :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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For what it's worth my husband has no idea what a cami even is. Brian Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, everybody! It's for fiction. Guy normally clueless trying to describe woman who catches his eye. Would a guy know the name of said garment!? He's more likely to know what's in it than what it's called :) == Marjorie Wilser On Jan 6, 2014, at 2:36 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I actually have one. Bought a decent dress at a thrift store for summer wear, but it is just a little low in front, so I bought one of the knit garments with spaghetti straps. It has a shelf bra, too--remember those from the '70s? And yes, my much younger co-workers call it a cami. BTW, it is also VERY long, so one could wear it with the extremely low-slung pants that still seem to be in vogue. That is one style that could go away, IMHO. Hard for us mature women to find pants that sit decently at the waist. Ann Wass In a message dated 1/6/2014 2:06:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sfsh...@gmail.com writes: LOL. This is definitely an age thing, I think. I have two daughters, ages 18 and 21. For years they've been calling that garment a cami or a camisole and it is not an undergarment, though it is often worn as a layer, but a layer that is exposed, either partly or entirely. And, in hot weather, it is worn alone. Neither of my daughters will wear a tank top, with cut-on shoulders. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Thanks! Thought so :) Ok. so I have another kind of problem entirely! == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Maggie Koenig wrote: For what it's worth my husband has no idea what a cami even is. Brian Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, everybody! It's for fiction. Guy normally clueless trying to describe woman who catches his eye. Would a guy know the name of said garment!? He's more likely to know what's in it than what it's called :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Lands' End has pants that sit at the waist. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:37 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank? I actually have one. Bought a decent dress at a thrift store for summer wear, but it is just a little low in front, so I bought one of the knit garments with spaghetti straps. It has a shelf bra, too--remember those from the '70s? And yes, my much younger co-workers call it a cami. BTW, it is also VERY long, so one could wear it with the extremely low-slung pants that still seem to be in vogue. That is one style that could go away, IMHO. Hard for us mature women to find pants that sit decently at the waist. Ann Wass In a message dated 1/6/2014 2:06:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sfsh...@gmail.com writes: LOL. This is definitely an age thing, I think. I have two daughters, ages 18 and 21. For years they've been calling that garment a cami or a camisole and it is not an undergarment, though it is often worn as a layer, but a layer that is exposed, either partly or entirely. And, in hot weather, it is worn alone. Neither of my daughters will wear a tank top, with cut-on shoulders. On 1/5/14, 9:28 PM, Sybella wrote: Hm. In my opinion, a camisole (or cami) is strictly an undergarment regardless of modern vernacular. LOL! Tank tops can be delicate in style...I would say what the OP is describing would be using the correct name if she called it a tank top. One could say tank top with spaghetti straps, maybe. Did you see the wiki page on this? I just looked it up. Whoever wrote it also mentions camisole. There are pictures at the bottom of the page, with all the variations that fall under tank tops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeveless_shirt On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Sharon Zakhour sfsh...@gmail.com wrote: cami or camisole On 1/5/14, 8:27 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Hi folks, I rarely wear sleeveless tops myself, so I'm waaay out of the loop about a popular item of modern summer clothing for women. What IS the little knit top with tiny straps called, nowadays? I think of a tank as sleeveless with wider shoulder straps. The skinny-strapped ones I think of as a chemise, but that isn't the name I'm looking for here. So what's the modern name for it, please? :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
I doubt he'd be up on the latest fashion jargon unless he was into that. He'd probably say blouse, top...maybe tank. But I can't imagine he'd ever say camisole or cami. LOL! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote: Lands' End has pants that sit at the waist. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:37 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank? I actually have one. Bought a decent dress at a thrift store for summer wear, but it is just a little low in front, so I bought one of the knit garments with spaghetti straps. It has a shelf bra, too--remember those from the '70s? And yes, my much younger co-workers call it a cami. BTW, it is also VERY long, so one could wear it with the extremely low-slung pants that still seem to be in vogue. That is one style that could go away, IMHO. Hard for us mature women to find pants that sit decently at the waist. Ann Wass In a message dated 1/6/2014 2:06:25 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, sfsh...@gmail.com writes: LOL. This is definitely an age thing, I think. I have two daughters, ages 18 and 21. For years they've been calling that garment a cami or a camisole and it is not an undergarment, though it is often worn as a layer, but a layer that is exposed, either partly or entirely. And, in hot weather, it is worn alone. Neither of my daughters will wear a tank top, with cut-on shoulders. On 1/5/14, 9:28 PM, Sybella wrote: Hm. In my opinion, a camisole (or cami) is strictly an undergarment regardless of modern vernacular. LOL! Tank tops can be delicate in style...I would say what the OP is describing would be using the correct name if she called it a tank top. One could say tank top with spaghetti straps, maybe. Did you see the wiki page on this? I just looked it up. Whoever wrote it also mentions camisole. There are pictures at the bottom of the page, with all the variations that fall under tank tops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeveless_shirt On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Sharon Zakhour sfsh...@gmail.com wrote: cami or camisole On 1/5/14, 8:27 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Hi folks, I rarely wear sleeveless tops myself, so I'm waaay out of the loop about a popular item of modern summer clothing for women. What IS the little knit top with tiny straps called, nowadays? I think of a tank as sleeveless with wider shoulder straps. The skinny-strapped ones I think of as a chemise, but that isn't the name I'm looking for here. So what's the modern name for it, please? :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Yep! Thanks a bunch for helping me clarify my thoughts. I guess I'm as out of touch as the fictional guy is snerk == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sybella wrote: I doubt he'd be up on the latest fashion jargon unless he was into that. He'd probably say blouse, top...maybe tank. But I can't imagine he'd ever say camisole or cami. LOL! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I guess it would be better to ask some guys who are the age of the character. I could just imagine an older guy describing it as a skimpy top. -Carol I doubt he'd be up on the latest fashion jargon unless he was into that. He'd probably say blouse, top...maybe tank. But I can't imagine he'd ever say camisole or cami. LOL! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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And then, again, a 25 y/o guy who just went shopping with his girlfriend just might know what it was called, or at least what his girlfriend called it. Of course, he might also go with that skimpy top thing. I don't think any guy I know (I'm 63) would ever call it a blouse, but skimpy top would be right up there as a good description. Way skimpy top would be even more appropriate. Ginni -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of aqua...@patriot.net Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 11:20 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank? I guess it would be better to ask some guys who are the age of the character. I could just imagine an older guy describing it as a skimpy top. -Carol I doubt he'd be up on the latest fashion jargon unless he was into that. He'd probably say blouse, top...maybe tank. But I can't imagine he'd ever say camisole or cami. LOL! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I wonder about the skimpy part. Do young guys use the term? Maybe might say hot if it were skimpy. Sheesh. Information overload :) Thanks, guys, for the fun discussion!! == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: And then, again, a 25 y/o guy who just went shopping with his girlfriend just might know what it was called, or at least what his girlfriend called it. Of course, he might also go with that skimpy top thing. I don't think any guy I know (I'm 63) would ever call it a blouse, but skimpy top would be right up there as a good description. Way skimpy top would be even more appropriate. Ginni ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Ask them. Most of us are the wrong gender and the wrong age. My ex-husband used skimpy, particularly concerning his daughters' clothing. But then he's my age. Skimpy might be generational. Ginni -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 12:55 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank? I wonder about the skimpy part. Do young guys use the term? Maybe might say hot if it were skimpy. Sheesh. Information overload :) Thanks, guys, for the fun discussion!! == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: And then, again, a 25 y/o guy who just went shopping with his girlfriend just might know what it was called, or at least what his girlfriend called it. Of course, he might also go with that skimpy top thing. I don't think any guy I know (I'm 63) would ever call it a blouse, but skimpy top would be right up there as a good description. Way skimpy top would be even more appropriate. Ginni ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I'll ask a guy who works at the cat shelter where I volunteer. He'll be amused! == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: Ask them. Most of us are the wrong gender and the wrong age. My ex-husband used skimpy, particularly concerning his daughters' clothing. But then he's my age. Skimpy might be generational. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I'm tempted to post a picture on my FB page asking males to state their age and a brief description of the top. LOL! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'll ask a guy who works at the cat shelter where I volunteer. He'll be amused! == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote: Ask them. Most of us are the wrong gender and the wrong age. My ex-husband used skimpy, particularly concerning his daughters' clothing. But then he's my age. Skimpy might be generational. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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ROFL!!! Thanks for the giggle! :) == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Sybella wrote: I'm tempted to post a picture on my FB page asking males to state their age and a brief description of the top. LOL! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'll ask a guy who works at the cat shelter where I volunteer. He'll be amused! == Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Find me THE picture, showing the top you have in mind. I'll do it! :) On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: ROFL!!! Thanks for the giggle! :) == Marjorie On Jan 6, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Sybella wrote: I'm tempted to post a picture on my FB page asking males to state their age and a brief description of the top. LOL! On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'll ask a guy who works at the cat shelter where I volunteer. He'll be amused! == Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] t-top? Tank?
Hi folks, I rarely wear sleeveless tops myself, so I'm waaay out of the loop about a popular item of modern summer clothing for women. What IS the little knit top with tiny straps called, nowadays? I think of a tank as sleeveless with wider shoulder straps. The skinny-strapped ones I think of as a chemise, but that isn't the name I'm looking for here. So what's the modern name for it, please? :) == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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cami or camisole On 1/5/14, 8:27 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Hi folks, I rarely wear sleeveless tops myself, so I'm waaay out of the loop about a popular item of modern summer clothing for women. What IS the little knit top with tiny straps called, nowadays? I think of a tank as sleeveless with wider shoulder straps. The skinny-strapped ones I think of as a chemise, but that isn't the name I'm looking for here. So what's the modern name for it, please? :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] t-top? Tank?
Hm. In my opinion, a camisole (or cami) is strictly an undergarment regardless of modern vernacular. LOL! Tank tops can be delicate in style...I would say what the OP is describing would be using the correct name if she called it a tank top. One could say tank top with spaghetti straps, maybe. Did you see the wiki page on this? I just looked it up. Whoever wrote it also mentions camisole. There are pictures at the bottom of the page, with all the variations that fall under tank tops. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleeveless_shirt On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Sharon Zakhour sfsh...@gmail.com wrote: cami or camisole On 1/5/14, 8:27 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Hi folks, I rarely wear sleeveless tops myself, so I'm waaay out of the loop about a popular item of modern summer clothing for women. What IS the little knit top with tiny straps called, nowadays? I think of a tank as sleeveless with wider shoulder straps. The skinny-strapped ones I think of as a chemise, but that isn't the name I'm looking for here. So what's the modern name for it, please? :) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
