Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange issue with new type of Google Captcha

[Kenny]

I've encountered this new capcha using Google Chrome. There is normally a 
toggle button/link saying "Switch to Audio" or something like that. Once 
you click on that you're presented with a link to "Play Audio."


I have noticed that it's difficult to locate the edit box after clicking 
the play link. I now first disable the Virtual cursor of JAWS before 
clicking on that Play link. Once the numbers are spoken, I just start 
typing them in. I'm automatically placed in the edit field.


At 09:24 PM 9/11/2017, you wrote:
Hello All. I'm just wondering if anyone has dealt with the following issue
I've started running into with an apparently new type of Google Captcha 
I've

been encountering on some Web sites over the past week. At least one tech
support rep at FS I talked to last Friday seems to be aware of this issue.
This is a type of Google Captcha where you click on a set of pictures as
opposed to entering a set of characters or enter a string of words in an
audio stream, so services like Rumola or WebVisum don't work. In this type
of Captcha, when I check the box labeled "I'm not a robot" in Internet
Explorer, I'm not presented with a link to an audio Captcha. In Firefox
(latest build), I receive the link to the audio and a button to play it.
However, there is either no edit box to enter the results of the audio
Captcha or JAWS isn't recognizing it on the page. Strangely however, when I
navigate to such a Captcha in Google Chrome, all I have to do (at least the
first time I need to access the page), is simply check the "I'm not a 
robot"

checkbox and it verifies me. If I need to re-enter the site however, I get
the same results with the Captcha as in Internet Explorer (i.e. no audio
Captcha is presented, only visual). I have to exit out of Google Chrome
entirely and re-open the browser to log onto the site.



I'm including all this as the Web site for the Equifax Security Breach,
http://.equifaxsecurity2017.com, requires one to navigate this type of
Captcha in order to obtain a user's status info (i.e. whether any personal
information was affected. Uber is also using this type of Captcha on their
log on page.



Anyone run into this issue and know if FS is trying to address it?



Thanks,



Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange issue with new type of Google Captcha

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Christofer,
I also wonder how this type of captcha detects a screen reader. I mainly use 
Firefox, browser in which when I check the I'm Not a Robot checkbox I am 
inmediately authorized in any site using this relatively new ReCaptcha format.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Christopher Sabine, ONH Consulting
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 10:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange issue with new type of Google Captcha

Hello All. I'm just wondering if anyone has dealt with the following issue I've 
started running into with an apparently new type of Google Captcha I've been 
encountering on some Web sites over the past week. At least one tech support 
rep at FS I talked to last Friday seems to be aware of this issue.
This is a type of Google Captcha where you click on a set of pictures as 
opposed to entering a set of characters or enter a string of words in an audio 
stream, so services like Rumola or WebVisum don't work. In this type of 
Captcha, when I check the box labeled "I'm not a robot" in Internet Explorer, 
I'm not presented with a link to an audio Captcha. In Firefox (latest build), I 
receive the link to the audio and a button to play it.
However, there is either no edit box to enter the results of the audio Captcha 
or JAWS isn't recognizing it on the page. Strangely however, when I navigate to 
such a Captcha in Google Chrome, all I have to do (at least the first time I 
need to access the page), is simply check the "I'm not a robot"
checkbox and it verifies me. If I need to re-enter the site however, I get the 
same results with the Captcha as in Internet Explorer (i.e. no audio Captcha is 
presented, only visual). I have to exit out of Google Chrome entirely and 
re-open the browser to log onto the site.

 

I'm including all this as the Web site for the Equifax Security Breach, 
http://.equifaxsecurity2017.com, requires one to navigate this type of 
Captcha in order to obtain a user's status info (i.e. whether any personal 
information was affected. Uber is also using this type of Captcha on their log 
on page.

 

Anyone run into this issue and know if FS is trying to address it?

 

Thanks,

 

Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Jim Pursley]

    I ran across the same issue with an audible download list box. Alt 
arrow and arrowing did nothing.  I did not stay with the issue because I 
was not really interested in the list box items and moved on to my 
download. But I too have encountred some hoakey list boxes.  Here's the 
following from a google search, leading me to a document on 
/Geocities.com which discussed JAWS and key strokes.  No date, 
unfortunately.

http://www.geocities.ws/jawsnotes/menus_shortcuts.htm

I have not yet tried the instructions.
Here's the relevant text on list boxes
A list box displays a list of choices in a rectangular box where you 
pick your choice from the list. There are two types, open and drop-down. 
An open list
box automatically displays all choices that will fit the box, while a 
drop-down list box displays one choice, and displays the rest by a 
mouse-user clicking

the list box or its arrow button.

There is probably some useful information in the JAWS Keystrokes list.
Arrow down to activate the list box. Then use up or down arrow to scroll 
through options.  The Home key will move the cursor focus to the first 
item in
the list.  The End key will move the focus to the last item.  Type the 
first letter of an option to move focus directly to it in the drop down 
list.


Spacebar selects an item in a list. When you have selected an item you 
can press INSERT + UP ARROW to read the selected item.


Tab selects the option in the List box which is read by Jaws and moves 
to next option in dialog box.


Ctrl Spacebar Selects another item in the list box in non-continuous 
mode.  The same as pressing Ctrl + left click.  Ctrl down or up arrow 
permits non-continuous
selection of items in a list box.  When used for the first time, the 
item that you move away from stays selected.   Shift down or up arrow 
continuous selection

of items in a list box.



On 9/11/2017 9:11 PM, Pam Mahuika wrote:

They aren't combo boxes and alt down arrow doesn't work on list boxes.

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Behalf Of michaeel's mail
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:52 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Try alt plus down arrow on the combo boxes.
That should exspand them.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Ok These list boxes are on the gmail web site when setting up a new Gmail
account.  They aren't  combo boxes and using arrows doesn't work so any more
suggestions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:08 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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[JAWS-Users] Strange issue with new type of Google Captcha

[Christopher Sabine, ONH Consulting]

Hello All. I'm just wondering if anyone has dealt with the following issue
I've started running into with an apparently new type of Google Captcha I've
been encountering on some Web sites over the past week. At least one tech
support rep at FS I talked to last Friday seems to be aware of this issue.
This is a type of Google Captcha where you click on a set of pictures as
opposed to entering a set of characters or enter a string of words in an
audio stream, so services like Rumola or WebVisum don't work. In this type
of Captcha, when I check the box labeled "I'm not a robot" in Internet
Explorer, I'm not presented with a link to an audio Captcha. In Firefox
(latest build), I receive the link to the audio and a button to play it.
However, there is either no edit box to enter the results of the audio
Captcha or JAWS isn't recognizing it on the page. Strangely however, when I
navigate to such a Captcha in Google Chrome, all I have to do (at least the
first time I need to access the page), is simply check the "I'm not a robot"
checkbox and it verifies me. If I need to re-enter the site however, I get
the same results with the Captcha as in Internet Explorer (i.e. no audio
Captcha is presented, only visual). I have to exit out of Google Chrome
entirely and re-open the browser to log onto the site.

 

I'm including all this as the Web site for the Equifax Security Breach,
http://.equifaxsecurity2017.com, requires one to navigate this type of
Captcha in order to obtain a user's status info (i.e. whether any personal
information was affected. Uber is also using this type of Captcha on their
log on page.

 

Anyone run into this issue and know if FS is trying to address it?

 

Thanks,

 

Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 18

[Kevin]

hey is jaws 2018 live?

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B. 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 4:25 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 18 


Hi Patty,

Here you go:

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4104MAPA49/J18.0.4104enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: patti

To: jaws
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 1:45 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 18


Hey Gang,

Could someone please send the link to download jaws 18 64 bit.

Thanks Patti





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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws2018 public beta 2 is it out?

[Mike B.]

Hi Dennis,

No, not as of yet.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws2018 public beta 2 is it out?


Hi, is the Jaws2018 public beta number 2 out yet?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Mike B.]

Hi Pam,

Try using Shift+F8 and then arrow down to the items you want to select and
> press Spacebar on each of the items.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
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- Original Message - 
From: Pam Mahuika
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes


Ok These list boxes are on the gmail web site when setting up a new Gmail
account.  They aren't  combo boxes and using arrows doesn't work so any more
suggestions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:08 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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[JAWS-Users] jaws2018 public beta 2 is it out?

[Dennis Long]

Hi, is the Jaws2018 public beta number 2 out yet?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Pam Mahuika]

They aren't combo boxes and alt down arrow doesn't work on list boxes.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of michaeel's mail
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:52 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Try alt plus down arrow on the combo boxes.
That should exspand them.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message-
From: Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Ok These list boxes are on the gmail web site when setting up a new Gmail
account.  They aren't  combo boxes and using arrows doesn't work so any more
suggestions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:08 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[michaeel's mail]

Try alt plus down arrow on the combo boxes.
That should exspand them.
cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: Pam Mahuika

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Ok These list boxes are on the gmail web site when setting up a new Gmail
account.  They aren't  combo boxes and using arrows doesn't work so any more
suggestions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:08 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 18

[Mike B.]

Hi Patty,

Here you go:

64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4104MAPA49/J18.0.4104enu-x64.exe

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: patti
To: jaws
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 1:45 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 18


Hey Gang,

Could someone please send the link to download jaws 18 64 bit.

Thanks Patti





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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Justin Williams]

Oh, I've not done that with jaws 17 and 18 before.
 Justin

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

Ok These list boxes are on the gmail web site when setting up a new Gmail
account.  They aren't  combo boxes and using arrows doesn't work so any more
suggestions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:08 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Pam Mahuika]

Ok These list boxes are on the gmail web site when setting up a new Gmail
account.  They aren't  combo boxes and using arrows doesn't work so any more
suggestions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Tuesday, 12 September 2017 11:08 a.m.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.
 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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Re: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Justin Williams]

If it is a conbo box, use alt down arrow to open it.  A normal list box
should just be able to be navigated with using the arrow kesy.
 

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List boxes

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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[JAWS-Users] List boxes

[Pam Mahuika]

How how do you navigate list boxes using jfw17 and 18?

Pam Mahuika


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Re: [JAWS-Users] move web site url

[Mike B.]

Hi TJ,

While on the website press, Alt + D, to highlight the URL.
Press, Alt + F, to open the File menu.
Arrow up to, Send, & press enter.
Arrow to, Shortcut to Desktop, & press enter.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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From: t
To: jul
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 2:36 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] move web site url


can anyone tell me how to move a websites url to the desktop with jaws 17?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] move web site url

[patti]

Put the URL in your favorites list
1, Select the link,
2, open the context menu,
3, arrow down to Send To submenu, right arrow
4, arrow down to Desktop create Shortcut, press enter
That's it.
Patti

can anyone tell me how to move a websites url to the desktop with jaws 17?
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[JAWS-Users] move web site url

[t]

can anyone tell me how to move a websites url to the desktop with jaws 17?
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[JAWS-Users] jaws 18

[patti]

Hey Gang,

Could someone please send the link to download jaws 18 64 bit.

Thanks Patti

 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs

[Mike B.]

Hi Jerry,

That goes to show that Rick is 1 bad-ass moderator!  LOL  LOL
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs


Rick:

As is par for the course, as soon as I sent the message, it corrected
itself. So, that just proves it: You scared it. Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs

Hi Jerry,
Try selecting the program you want from the list of running applications,
Jaws key + F10, then arrow to the one you want and press enter.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs


Morning all. I have a question. I can have several programs open i.e., Word,
JAWS, my email program, and an internet search. However, when I try to tab
to a previously open program, it will only tab to the previous two programs
open. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Any answers/remedies
will be greatly appreciated.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Place markers

[Mike B.]

Hi LeDon,

Here's to add to what Justin has posted:
PlaceMarkers
A PlaceMarker is a bookmark that you can easily add to a Web page, HTML, 
PDF, or Word document, or form to mark a location. This is useful when you 
want to return to commonly used areas on a Web page, important sections or 
paragraphs of an HTML document, or specific parts, such as required fields, 
of a complicated form. PlaceMarkers can be defined as temporary or permanent 
and can be anchored to text, elements of the current Web page, or to a Web 
site's domain. Multiple PlaceMarkers can be added to HTML or PDF documents, 
while only one can be added to a Word document.

The following describes how to add, rename, or delete PlaceMarkers. If you 
are not familiar with PlaceMarkers and need more information, refer to 
Important PlaceMarker Concepts. For additional PlaceMarker operation, refer 
to Advanced PlaceMarker Usage. For general information about using 
PlaceMarkers in a Word document, refer to Marking and Returning to a 
PlaceMarker in Word.

Adding a Temporary PlaceMarker
To quickly add a temporary PlaceMarker, do the following:

  1.. Open a Web page, other HTML document, or Word document.
  2.. Move the virtual cursor to the location on the page where you want to 
put the PlaceMarker.
  3.. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+K. A temporary PlaceMarker now appears on the 
page.

  You can always jump to it using any of the following Navigation Quick 
Keys: K, SHIFT+K, SHIFT+ number row keys 7 through 0, or CTRL+SHIFT+K. (The 
last keystroke opens the PlaceMarker List. Select Temporary from the list, 
and then choose the Move To button.)
Selecting Between the Temporary PlaceMarker and the Cursor Position
To select text between a temporary PlaceMarker and your current position in 
a Web page, HTML document, or Word document, do the following:

  1.. Press CTRL+WINDOWS Key+k to set a temporary PlaceMarker.
  2.. Navigate to another location on the Web page or document, then press 
INSERT+SPACEBAR, M. All text between the temporary PlaceMarker and your 
current cursor position is selected and ready to be copied to the Clipboard.
This method is often easier than using the SHIFT Key in conjunction with the 
ARROW keys when attempting to select large blocks of text.

Adding Permanent PlaceMarkers to Web Pages or HTML Documents
To add a PlaceMarker, do the following:

  1.. Open a Web page or other HTML document.
  2.. Move the virtual cursor to the location on the page where you want to 
put the PlaceMarker.
  3.. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K and then ENTER.
  The Add PlaceMarker dialog box opens with focus in the Name edit field. It 
contains text that appears at the cursor location. If you want to change the 
PlaceMarker name, type a new name in this field; otherwise, press TAB to 
move to the next control.
  4.. The Define for All Pages on Current Domain check box is cleared by 
default, which allows the PlaceMarker to be anchored only to the current Web 
page or HTML document. If you want to use this PlaceMarker so that it is 
anchored to all pages within the current domain instead, press SPACEBAR to 
select the check box. Press TAB to move to the next control.
  5.. The Anchor to Text check box is cleared by default. Select this check 
box if you want to link the PlaceMarker with specific text, such as a 
heading, that appears on the page. This can be useful on frequently updated 
Web pages where text and elements tend to drift from their original 
position. When selected, the next control, Anchor Text edit field, 
automatically populates using the original text in the Name edit field. This 
guarantees that the PlaceMarker will always be associated with this text on 
the Web page.
  6.. Press TAB to navigate to the OK button and press SPACEBAR to close the 
dialog box and save the PlaceMarker.
Renaming PlaceMarkers
To change the name of a PlaceMarker, do the following:

  1.. Open the page containing the PlaceMarker you want to rename.
  2.. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to display a list of PlaceMarkers on this page.
  3.. Use the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys to select the PlaceMarker.
  4.. Press SPACEBAR on the Change Name button or press ALT+C.
  5.. Enter a new name for the PlaceMarker and then press SPACEBAR on the OK 
button.
Removing PlaceMarkers
To remove one or more PlaceMarkers, do the following:

  1.. Open the page containing the PlaceMarker you want to delete.
  2.. Press CTRL+SHIFT+K to display a list of all PlaceMarkers on the 
current page.
  3.. Use the UP ARROW or DOWN ARROW keys to select a PlaceMarker.
  4.. Press SPACEBAR on the Remove button or press ALT+R to delete the 
PlaceMarker.
Tip: If you want to delete all PlaceMarkers for this page, press SPACEBAR on 
the Remove All button or press ALT+L.

Important PlaceMarker Concepts
The following sections, PlaceMarker Keystrokes, Temporary versus Permanent 
PlaceMarkers, and URL versus Domain PlaceMarkers, are key to understanding 
PlaceMarkers with JAWS.

PlaceMarker Keystrokes for Web Pages, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Place markers

[Justin Williams]

Shift control k will put you into the placemarker list.  It then tab to add, or 
hit alt a, then type in your name and hit enter.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of LeDon
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Place markers

I know how to place a temporary place marker in a document. What I can’t seem 
to remember is how to place a permeant place marker. Can you remind me?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:34 AM
To: jaws-users- l...@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE

Hi Adrian,
I thought exactly in the same set of steps, which also are applicable to IE, 
with the difference of the fact that the menu item reads Copy Shortcut instead 
of Copy Location Link. In both browsers you can open the favorites manager 
(with Organize Favorites option in IE that in English I think its keystroke is 
CTRL+Y, or with the Show All Bookmarks option in Firefox which by default can 
be activated by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+B independently of the language).
In any of the cases, find the menu item or button to add a new bookmark or 
favorite. Of course, you will have to fill in or paste the link manually.

Hope it helps.

2017-09-11 1:45 GMT-03:00 Adrian Spratt :

> Laura,
>
> I believe Fernando is right that you've landed in a PDF file. I have a 
> partial solution, although it doesn't lie in IE, but in Firefox.
> Perhaps you have this browser already installed. If not, it's a useful 
> alternative for when IE doesn't work.
>
> Here are the steps:
>
> Open Firefox.
> If you know the website that led you to the PDF file, open that website.
> Find the link on that website that goes to the PDF file, but don't 
> click on it.
> With focus on that link, press the right-mouse key. This is the key on 
> the numpad next to the JAWS cursor key.
> Arrow down to "Copy location link." Press enter to copy it.
>
> I'm not sure how you could save that link as a favorite. However, you 
> could copy it into a file for future use.
>
> Credit goes to a fellow JAWS user named Brad.
>
> If any of these steps are unclear, please post again.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 12:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> I've never had an issue with adding any web pages to my favorites list 
> before now .. Is there anything I can do because the only way to 
> get off that page is to close IE ..
>
> Laura
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 10:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Hi Laura,
>
> In that case, you probably are actually in a PDF document instead of a 
> web page. I suppose that because CTRL+D is the hotkey for document 
> properties in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 10:31 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work .. When I pressed 
> control
> + d Jaws said I was in a document properties dialog ..
>
> Laura
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of wayne smith
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 8:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> You can give Control-d a shot.  It works for me.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> When I have a web page I want to save to my favorites list, I press 
> alt + a and enter on "add to favorites" without any problems .. I have 
> a web page I want to save to my favorites list but nothing happens 
> when I pres alt + a and nothing happens when I try to go back by 
> pressing alt + left arrow or backspace.
>
>
>
> Is there another way to add this site to my favorites list? .. Thanks ..
>
>
>
> Laura
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to 

[JAWS-Users] Place markers

[LeDon]

I know how to place a temporary place marker in a document. What I can’t seem 
to remember is how to place a permeant place marker. Can you remind me?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:34 AM
To: jaws-users- l...@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE

Hi Adrian,
I thought exactly in the same set of steps, which also are applicable to IE, 
with the difference of the fact that the menu item reads Copy Shortcut instead 
of Copy Location Link. In both browsers you can open the favorites manager 
(with Organize Favorites option in IE that in English I think its keystroke is 
CTRL+Y, or with the Show All Bookmarks option in Firefox which by default can 
be activated by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+B independently of the language).
In any of the cases, find the menu item or button to add a new bookmark or 
favorite. Of course, you will have to fill in or paste the link manually.

Hope it helps.

2017-09-11 1:45 GMT-03:00 Adrian Spratt :

> Laura,
>
> I believe Fernando is right that you've landed in a PDF file. I have a 
> partial solution, although it doesn't lie in IE, but in Firefox. 
> Perhaps you have this browser already installed. If not, it's a useful 
> alternative for when IE doesn't work.
>
> Here are the steps:
>
> Open Firefox.
> If you know the website that led you to the PDF file, open that website.
> Find the link on that website that goes to the PDF file, but don't 
> click on it.
> With focus on that link, press the right-mouse key. This is the key on 
> the numpad next to the JAWS cursor key.
> Arrow down to "Copy location link." Press enter to copy it.
>
> I'm not sure how you could save that link as a favorite. However, you 
> could copy it into a file for future use.
>
> Credit goes to a fellow JAWS user named Brad.
>
> If any of these steps are unclear, please post again.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 12:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> I've never had an issue with adding any web pages to my favorites list 
> before now .. Is there anything I can do because the only way to 
> get off that page is to close IE ..
>
> Laura
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 10:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Hi Laura,
>
> In that case, you probably are actually in a PDF document instead of a 
> web page. I suppose that because CTRL+D is the hotkey for document 
> properties in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 10:31 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work .. When I pressed 
> control
> + d Jaws said I was in a document properties dialog ..
>
> Laura
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of wayne smith
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 8:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> You can give Control-d a shot.  It works for me.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> When I have a web page I want to save to my favorites list, I press 
> alt + a and enter on "add to favorites" without any problems .. I have 
> a web page I want to save to my favorites list but nothing happens 
> when I pres alt + a and nothing happens when I try to go back by 
> pressing alt + left arrow or backspace.
>
>
>
> Is there another way to add this site to my favorites list? .. Thanks ..
>
>
>
> Laura
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs

[jyandt.martin]

Rick:

As is par for the course, as soon as I sent the message, it corrected 
itself. So, that just proves it: You scared it. Thanks.


-Original Message- 
From: Rick Justice

Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs

Hi Jerry,
Try selecting the program you want from the list of running applications,
Jaws key + F10, then arrow to the one you want and press enter.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs


Morning all. I have a question. I can have several programs open i.e., Word,
JAWS, my email program, and an internet search. However, when I try to tab
to a previously open program, it will only tab to the previous two programs
open. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Any answers/remedies
will be greatly appreciated.

Jerry
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs

[Rick Justice]

Hi Jerry,
Try selecting the program you want from the list of running applications,
Jaws key + F10, then arrow to the one you want and press enter.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:43 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs


Morning all. I have a question. I can have several programs open i.e., Word, 
JAWS, my email program, and an internet search. However, when I try to tab 
to a previously open program, it will only tab to the previous two programs 
open. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Any answers/remedies 
will be greatly appreciated.

Jerry
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] Tabbing Through Multiple programs

[jyandt.martin]

Morning all. I have a question. I can have several programs open i.e., Word, 
JAWS, my email program, and an internet search. However, when I try to tab to a 
previously open program, it will only tab to the previous two programs open. I 
am using JAWS 17, Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Any answers/remedies will be 
greatly appreciated. 

Jerry
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Adrian,
I thought exactly in the same set of steps, which also are applicable to
IE, with the difference of the fact that the menu item reads Copy Shortcut
instead of Copy Location Link. In both browsers you can open the favorites
manager (with Organize Favorites option in IE that in English I think its
keystroke is CTRL+Y, or with the Show All Bookmarks option in Firefox which
by default can be activated by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+B independently of the
language).
In any of the cases, find the menu item or button to add a new bookmark or
favorite. Of course, you will have to fill in or paste the link manually.

Hope it helps.

2017-09-11 1:45 GMT-03:00 Adrian Spratt :

> Laura,
>
> I believe Fernando is right that you've landed in a PDF file. I have a
> partial solution, although it doesn't lie in IE, but in Firefox. Perhaps
> you have this browser already installed. If not, it's a useful alternative
> for when IE doesn't work.
>
> Here are the steps:
>
> Open Firefox.
> If you know the website that led you to the PDF file, open that website.
> Find the link on that website that goes to the PDF file, but don't click
> on it.
> With focus on that link, press the right-mouse key. This is the key on the
> numpad next to the JAWS cursor key.
> Arrow down to "Copy location link." Press enter to copy it.
>
> I'm not sure how you could save that link as a favorite. However, you
> could copy it into a file for future use.
>
> Credit goes to a fellow JAWS user named Brad.
>
> If any of these steps are unclear, please post again.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 12:02 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> I've never had an issue with adding any web pages to my favorites list
> before now .. Is there anything I can do because the only way to get
> off that page is to close IE ..
>
> Laura
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 10:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Hi Laura,
>
> In that case, you probably are actually in a PDF document instead of a web
> page. I suppose that because CTRL+D is the hotkey for document properties
> in Adobe Reader and Adobe Acrobat Reader DC.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 10:31 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Thanks for the suggestion but that didn't work .. When I pressed
> control
> + d Jaws said I was in a document properties dialog ..
>
> Laura
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of wayne smith
> Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 8:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> You can give Control-d a shot.  It works for me.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Laura Richardson
> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2017 7:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Adding a web page to favorites with IE
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> When I have a web page I want to save to my favorites list, I press alt +
> a and enter on "add to favorites" without any problems .. I have a web page
> I want to save to my favorites list but nothing happens when I pres alt + a
> and nothing happens when I try to go back by pressing alt + left arrow or
> backspace.
>
>
>
> Is there another way to add this site to my favorites list? .. Thanks ..
>
>
>
> Laura
>
>
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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>
>
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