Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

[Mike B.]

Hi Fernando,

Alls I can say is what I stated earlier.   I make my changes in the Start 
Menu properties, Classic Shell, does what it does depending on what link you 
click on for your choice of skins.  I'm not well versed with Windows 10, & 
don't plan on being so for as long as I can help it!  LOL  I am most 
definitely not a computer literate lingo person, & most people on this list 
as well as many others know it, but I do learn at my own pace.  I'm pretty 
much self taught, but I've had the tutoring of very fine people from this 
list that kept my sanity in tact while I dealt with the learning curve of 
computers.  I'm only saying this so you understand why I stated that playing 
around with the options was the only way to see how each of the skins will 
read for each individual.  that computer lingo crap that is put into help 
files is like a foreign language to so many people it's not even funny!  I 
would be willing to wager, that at a minimum, 75% of the people that use 
computers around the world don't have a clue as to what is being said when 
they read instructions on the internet written by computer experts, or the 
computer lingo crap that's written in help files.

I really enjoy reading your posts' because although they might be above my 
pay grade I can figure them out by reading them a few times!  You don't go 
overboard on the computer lingo crap, but show that you know what you're 
talking about, which is truly appreciated by not only me, but other list 
members that are in the same boat of computer skill level.  When I say, 
Thank you, at the end of my posts', this is not something I'm saying in 
general, but something that I'm truly appreciative of!  Thanks much for all 
your help.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

The Readme provides important links and procedures to solve installation 
issues that can affect components like Classic Explorer or Classic IE, which 
depend on settings for ActiveX controls.
To know each setting in depth, it is best to see help found in the CHM file. 
For Classic Start Menu, you'll realize that many of the individual and 
specific settings you can change for a given style are simulations of 
settings that were available for these styles in Taskbar and Start Menu 
Properties dialog of the corresponding Windows version. This is particularly 
useful because this dialog (or the Settings categories in Windows 10) only 
offer settings for the provided styles in your current Windows version, and 
Windows 7 and newer does not natively offer a choice of classic Start menu 
style; moreover, from a user's point of view, Windows 8 and 8.1 have no 
Start menu at all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the 
next best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know 
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use 
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In 
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control 
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the 
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which 
reports On or Off after the option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic 
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio 
buttons after you click on a setting 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Mike,

The Readme provides important links and procedures to solve installation issues 
that can affect components like Classic Explorer or Classic IE, which depend on 
settings for ActiveX controls.
To know each setting in depth, it is best to see help found in the CHM file. 
For Classic Start Menu, you'll realize that many of the individual and specific 
settings you can change for a given style are simulations of settings that were 
available for these styles in Taskbar and Start Menu Properties dialog of the 
corresponding Windows version. This is particularly useful because this dialog 
(or the Settings categories in Windows 10) only offer settings for the provided 
styles in your current Windows version, and Windows 7 and newer does not 
natively offer a choice of classic Start menu style; moreover, from a user's 
point of view, Windows 8 and 8.1 have no Start menu at all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the next 
best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know are 
those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use the 
Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In all 
styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control Panel etc.) 
and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the states of checkboxes 
in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which reports On or Off after the 
option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic Settings 
& the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio buttons after you 
click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press enter on either, Windows 
Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / Windows 7 link.  Now after you 
press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All Settings radio buttons, choose 
which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press enter.  Now your settings are 
changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how the chosen settings will look / 
be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is why I say it takes some playing 
around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 7settings, & both the Basic / All 
settings to get a feel for how Jaws will read for you.  Personally, I don't 
care about the Explorer & IE settings, & only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show the 
way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi all,

Although this should be fixed by FS, see the following Freedom Scientific 
support technical support bulletin that includes a workaround related to a 
Windows setting causing the problem:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Bulletin/1662

I also discovered that this problem is also less frequent in computers where I 
have Fast Startup setting in Power Options turned off. When this option is on 
and you shut down, computer is actually hibernated in the logon screen instead 
of making a full shutdown and boot.

Hope it helps somewhat!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 9:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on 
screen

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed 
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything at 
the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I can 
press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my password.  
Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the password.  The 
behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to 
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to 
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ThunderBird Versus WLM

[Audiobookfan]

I've never used WLM, but I do use and really like Thunderbird.

Jeff


On 3/27/2018 7:50 AM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Morning all.
Can anyone tell me their preferences between ThunderBird and Windows Live Mail? 
I am considering going to a different email program, so I would appreciate 
everyones feedback on this. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. 
Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Reed]

As mentioned in my earlier note, I've had this issue right from the first
install of Windows 10 and the latest version of JAWS available at that time.
And, as indicated by others, I'm not alone here.

Reed 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Dave...Oregonian
Sent: March 28, 2018 7:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
log on screen

...have you simply tried to remove JAWS and install it clean?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 16:51
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the 
log on screen


Hi Hareth,

"...If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon
screen."?
If JAWS doesn't come up talking at the Logon screen, there is a problem with
JAWS.

I just did a test where I booted my computer a number of times.  Every time
I did, one of 2 things happened.  A few times, the only thing I heard was
"unavailable".  A few times, I heard absolutely nothing, in which cases, I
didn't know if I was at the logon screen yet.
Each time, I hit Insert+T to hear the window title and each time it said
"Title equals".
A number of times, I hit Spacebar and it took me to the password field every
time.  I tried hitting Shift+F8 one time and it did the same thing.
This is better than what I've been doing to get around the problem.  Thanks
for the tip.

The FS Support people I've spoken to think that this is not a very
widespread problem.
I would like to encourage people to report here or to FS Support if their
computer does not come up talking automatically as expected when they boot
up.
  This will let FS know the extent of the problem.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Hareth
Sent: March 28, 2018 2:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
log on screen

Hi Reed,
Give this a try, it always work for me,
When you boot up your computer do nothing other then pressing the
"space bar" it says password edit 99% of the times, when jaws doesn't
see the password edit field.
If that didn't work try hitting "shift plus F8"
those 2 ways work if jaws is running.
If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon screen.


On 3/28/18, Reed  wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version
of
> JAWS 2018.  This logon problem has been with me right from my first
> installation of Windows 10.
> I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion.
>
> Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago.
> He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem.  He
> said that it is not wide-spread.  He told me to contact the Microsoft
> Accessibility Help Desk.  I haven't had time to contact them yet.
>
> The problem for me is really hit and miss.  Most of the time I don't hear
> anything when my machine boots up.  Some times JAWS starts and tells me
the
> focus has been lost.  Some times, the Windows sound is heard.  Most of the
> time it is not.
>
> When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to
> cancel
> it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password
> field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter.  Rather
a
> long process just to logon.
>
>  Reed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
> Tom Behler
> Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
> log on screen
>
> Mike and all:
>
> I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
> latest build of Jaws 2018.
>
> The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think
> the
> problem is limited to Windows 10.
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
> Mike Mote
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log
> on
> screen
>
> Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been
> fixed
> for me yet.
>
> I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
> at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
> can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
> password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
> password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.
>
> I wanted 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Hareth]

I've got the same issue even after clean windows10 latest edition. It
wasn't the case with the older version. re installing jaws didn't fix
that.

On 3/29/18, Dave...Oregonian  wrote:
> ...have you simply tried to remove JAWS and install it clean?
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Reed" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 16:51
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
> log on screen
>
>
> Hi Hareth,
>
> "...If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon
> screen."?
> If JAWS doesn't come up talking at the Logon screen, there is a problem
> with
> JAWS.
>
> I just did a test where I booted my computer a number of times.  Every time
> I did, one of 2 things happened.  A few times, the only thing I heard was
> "unavailable".  A few times, I heard absolutely nothing, in which cases, I
> didn't know if I was at the logon screen yet.
> Each time, I hit Insert+T to hear the window title and each time it said
> "Title equals".
> A number of times, I hit Spacebar and it took me to the password field
> every
> time.  I tried hitting Shift+F8 one time and it did the same thing.
> This is better than what I've been doing to get around the problem.  Thanks
> for the tip.
>
> The FS Support people I've spoken to think that this is not a very
> widespread problem.
> I would like to encourage people to report here or to FS Support if their
> computer does not come up talking automatically as expected when they boot
> up.
>   This will let FS know the extent of the problem.
>
> Reed
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
> Hareth
> Sent: March 28, 2018 2:42 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
> log on screen
>
> Hi Reed,
> Give this a try, it always work for me,
> When you boot up your computer do nothing other then pressing the
> "space bar" it says password edit 99% of the times, when jaws doesn't
> see the password edit field.
> If that didn't work try hitting "shift plus F8"
> those 2 ways work if jaws is running.
> If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon
> screen.
>
>
> On 3/28/18, Reed  wrote:
>> Hey!
>>
>> I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version
> of
>> JAWS 2018.  This logon problem has been with me right from my first
>> installation of Windows 10.
>> I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion.
>>
>> Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago.
>> He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem.  He
>> said that it is not wide-spread.  He told me to contact the Microsoft
>> Accessibility Help Desk.  I haven't had time to contact them yet.
>>
>> The problem for me is really hit and miss.  Most of the time I don't hear
>> anything when my machine boots up.  Some times JAWS starts and tells me
> the
>> focus has been lost.  Some times, the Windows sound is heard.  Most of
>> the
>> time it is not.
>>
>> When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to
>> cancel
>> it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password
>> field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter.  Rather
> a
>> long process just to logon.
>>
>>  Reed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
> Of
>> Tom Behler
>> Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
>> log on screen
>>
>> Mike and all:
>>
>> I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
>> latest build of Jaws 2018.
>>
>> The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think
>> the
>> problem is limited to Windows 10.
>>
>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
> Of
>> Mike Mote
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log
>> on
>> screen
>>
>> Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been
>> fixed
>> for me yet.
>>
>> I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say
>> anything
>> at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes
>> I
>> can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
>> password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
>> password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.
>>
>> I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do
> to
>> make 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Dave...Oregonian]

...have you simply tried to remove JAWS and install it clean?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 16:51
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the 
log on screen


Hi Hareth,

"...If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon
screen."?
If JAWS doesn't come up talking at the Logon screen, there is a problem with
JAWS.

I just did a test where I booted my computer a number of times.  Every time
I did, one of 2 things happened.  A few times, the only thing I heard was
"unavailable".  A few times, I heard absolutely nothing, in which cases, I
didn't know if I was at the logon screen yet.
Each time, I hit Insert+T to hear the window title and each time it said
"Title equals".
A number of times, I hit Spacebar and it took me to the password field every
time.  I tried hitting Shift+F8 one time and it did the same thing.
This is better than what I've been doing to get around the problem.  Thanks
for the tip.

The FS Support people I've spoken to think that this is not a very
widespread problem.
I would like to encourage people to report here or to FS Support if their
computer does not come up talking automatically as expected when they boot
up.
  This will let FS know the extent of the problem.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Hareth
Sent: March 28, 2018 2:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
log on screen

Hi Reed,
Give this a try, it always work for me,
When you boot up your computer do nothing other then pressing the
"space bar" it says password edit 99% of the times, when jaws doesn't
see the password edit field.
If that didn't work try hitting "shift plus F8"
those 2 ways work if jaws is running.
If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon screen.


On 3/28/18, Reed  wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version
of
> JAWS 2018.  This logon problem has been with me right from my first
> installation of Windows 10.
> I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion.
>
> Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago.
> He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem.  He
> said that it is not wide-spread.  He told me to contact the Microsoft
> Accessibility Help Desk.  I haven't had time to contact them yet.
>
> The problem for me is really hit and miss.  Most of the time I don't hear
> anything when my machine boots up.  Some times JAWS starts and tells me
the
> focus has been lost.  Some times, the Windows sound is heard.  Most of the
> time it is not.
>
> When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to
> cancel
> it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password
> field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter.  Rather
a
> long process just to logon.
>
>  Reed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
> Tom Behler
> Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
> log on screen
>
> Mike and all:
>
> I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
> latest build of Jaws 2018.
>
> The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think
> the
> problem is limited to Windows 10.
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
> Mike Mote
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log
> on
> screen
>
> Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been
> fixed
> for me yet.
>
> I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
> at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
> can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
> password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
> password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.
>
> I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do
to
> make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need
to
> check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Mote
>
> Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources
>
> IFB Solutions
>
> Our Vision is Working - see more at  
> www.ifbsolutions.org
>
> Email   

Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Hareth]

Hi Reed, That's the same issue I'm getting on my laptop. Jaws not
announcing the focus on password field with the logon screen.
Glad It worked for you.

On 3/29/18, Reed  wrote:
> Hi Hareth,
>
> "...If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon
> screen."?
> If JAWS doesn't come up talking at the Logon screen, there is a problem
> with
> JAWS.
>
> I just did a test where I booted my computer a number of times.  Every time
> I did, one of 2 things happened.  A few times, the only thing I heard was
> "unavailable".  A few times, I heard absolutely nothing, in which cases, I
> didn't know if I was at the logon screen yet.
> Each time, I hit Insert+T to hear the window title and each time it said
> "Title equals".
> A number of times, I hit Spacebar and it took me to the password field
> every
> time.  I tried hitting Shift+F8 one time and it did the same thing.
> This is better than what I've been doing to get around the problem.  Thanks
> for the tip.
>
> The FS Support people I've spoken to think that this is not a very
> widespread problem.
> I would like to encourage people to report here or to FS Support if their
> computer does not come up talking automatically as expected when they boot
> up.
>   This will let FS know the extent of the problem.
>
> Reed
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
> Hareth
> Sent: March 28, 2018 2:42 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
> log on screen
>
> Hi Reed,
> Give this a try, it always work for me,
> When you boot up your computer do nothing other then pressing the
> "space bar" it says password edit 99% of the times, when jaws doesn't
> see the password edit field.
> If that didn't work try hitting "shift plus F8"
> those 2 ways work if jaws is running.
> If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon
> screen.
>
>
> On 3/28/18, Reed  wrote:
>> Hey!
>>
>> I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version
> of
>> JAWS 2018.  This logon problem has been with me right from my first
>> installation of Windows 10.
>> I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion.
>>
>> Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago.
>> He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem.  He
>> said that it is not wide-spread.  He told me to contact the Microsoft
>> Accessibility Help Desk.  I haven't had time to contact them yet.
>>
>> The problem for me is really hit and miss.  Most of the time I don't hear
>> anything when my machine boots up.  Some times JAWS starts and tells me
> the
>> focus has been lost.  Some times, the Windows sound is heard.  Most of
>> the
>> time it is not.
>>
>> When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to
>> cancel
>> it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password
>> field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter.  Rather
> a
>> long process just to logon.
>>
>>  Reed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
> Of
>> Tom Behler
>> Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
>> log on screen
>>
>> Mike and all:
>>
>> I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
>> latest build of Jaws 2018.
>>
>> The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think
>> the
>> problem is limited to Windows 10.
>>
>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
> Of
>> Mike Mote
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log
>> on
>> screen
>>
>> Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been
>> fixed
>> for me yet.
>>
>> I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say
>> anything
>> at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes
>> I
>> can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
>> password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
>> password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.
>>
>> I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do
> to
>> make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need
> to
>> check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Mote
>>
>> Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources
>>
>> IFB Solutions
>>
>> Our Vision is Working - see more at  
>> www.ifbsolutions.org
>>
>> Email  

Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Reed]

Hi Hareth,

"...If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon
screen."?  
If JAWS doesn't come up talking at the Logon screen, there is a problem with
JAWS.

I just did a test where I booted my computer a number of times.  Every time
I did, one of 2 things happened.  A few times, the only thing I heard was
"unavailable".  A few times, I heard absolutely nothing, in which cases, I
didn't know if I was at the logon screen yet.  
Each time, I hit Insert+T to hear the window title and each time it said
"Title equals".
A number of times, I hit Spacebar and it took me to the password field every
time.  I tried hitting Shift+F8 one time and it did the same thing.
This is better than what I've been doing to get around the problem.  Thanks
for the tip.

The FS Support people I've spoken to think that this is not a very
widespread problem.
I would like to encourage people to report here or to FS Support if their
computer does not come up talking automatically as expected when they boot
up.
  This will let FS know the extent of the problem.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Hareth
Sent: March 28, 2018 2:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
log on screen

Hi Reed,
Give this a try, it always work for me,
When you boot up your computer do nothing other then pressing the
"space bar" it says password edit 99% of the times, when jaws doesn't
see the password edit field.
If that didn't work try hitting "shift plus F8"
those 2 ways work if jaws is running.
If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon screen.


On 3/28/18, Reed  wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version
of
> JAWS 2018.  This logon problem has been with me right from my first
> installation of Windows 10.
> I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion.
>
> Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago.
> He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem.  He
> said that it is not wide-spread.  He told me to contact the Microsoft
> Accessibility Help Desk.  I haven't had time to contact them yet.
>
> The problem for me is really hit and miss.  Most of the time I don't hear
> anything when my machine boots up.  Some times JAWS starts and tells me
the
> focus has been lost.  Some times, the Windows sound is heard.  Most of the
> time it is not.
>
> When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to
> cancel
> it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password
> field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter.  Rather
a
> long process just to logon.
>
>  Reed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
> Tom Behler
> Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
> log on screen
>
> Mike and all:
>
> I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
> latest build of Jaws 2018.
>
> The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think
> the
> problem is limited to Windows 10.
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf
Of
> Mike Mote
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log
> on
> screen
>
> Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been
> fixed
> for me yet.
>
> I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
> at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
> can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
> password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
> password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.
>
> I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do
to
> make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need
to
> check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Mote
>
> Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources
>
> IFB Solutions
>
> Our Vision is Working - see more at  
> www.ifbsolutions.org
>
> Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org
>
> Work Phone (336) 245-5650
>
> Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006
>
> Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr
>
> Winston-Salem, NC 27106
>
>
>
> *Large font facilitates reading for people with low vision
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[michael's mail]

narrator works evry time for me,

-Original Message- 
From: amca...@verizon.net

Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 12:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the 
log on screen


Hi Mike and All,

I am experiencing the same scenarios as you with logging into my Windows10
machines at both home and work.  In all cases I am using the latest builds
of JAWS2018 on varrious models of a Dell Latitude.  I've used Alt+Tab,
Control+Alt+Delete, Escape, and Narrator.  All with varrying results.
Narrator is the most consistent solution, but sometimes it will not load, or
at least that is how it appears.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on
screen

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.





Mike Mote

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at  
www.ifbsolutions.org

Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006

Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr

Winston-Salem, NC 27106



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Hareth]

Hi Reed,
Give this a try, it always work for me,
When you boot up your computer do nothing other then pressing the
"space bar" it says password edit 99% of the times, when jaws doesn't
see the password edit field.
If that didn't work try hitting "shift plus F8"
those 2 ways work if jaws is running.
If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon screen.


On 3/28/18, Reed  wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version of
> JAWS 2018.  This logon problem has been with me right from my first
> installation of Windows 10.
> I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion.
>
> Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago.
> He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem.  He
> said that it is not wide-spread.  He told me to contact the Microsoft
> Accessibility Help Desk.  I haven't had time to contact them yet.
>
> The problem for me is really hit and miss.  Most of the time I don't hear
> anything when my machine boots up.  Some times JAWS starts and tells me the
> focus has been lost.  Some times, the Windows sound is heard.  Most of the
> time it is not.
>
> When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to
> cancel
> it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password
> field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter.  Rather a
> long process just to logon.
>
>  Reed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
> Tom Behler
> Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
> log on screen
>
> Mike and all:
>
> I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
> latest build of Jaws 2018.
>
> The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think
> the
> problem is limited to Windows 10.
>
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
> Mike Mote
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log
> on
> screen
>
> Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been
> fixed
> for me yet.
>
> I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
> at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
> can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
> password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
> password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.
>
> I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
> make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
> check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mike Mote
>
> Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources
>
> IFB Solutions
>
> Our Vision is Working - see more at  
> www.ifbsolutions.org
>
> Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org
>
> Work Phone (336) 245-5650
>
> Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006
>
> Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr
>
> Winston-Salem, NC 27106
>
>
>
> *Large font facilitates reading for people with low vision
>
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] searching outlook calendar

[Dave...Oregonian]

Usually you need to use the JAWS cursor inside the find dialog until you get 
to the list of found entries. Then press the spacebar to highlight one of 
those entries in the list, and it can now be navigated with the arrow keys. 
Been like that since forever, and I'm surprised FS never came up with a 
resolution to that.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 13:28
Subject: [JAWS-Users] searching outlook calendar


Please help:
I use JAWS 2018 and run Office 365 Outlook Calendar.
I use quick key ctrl-e to invoke a query and press enter but JAWS does not
read me the results even though I know the information is there when I
cursor to the relevant date.

Where am I going wrong?

All help appreciated.

Thanks

C.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
AndrewDS
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 02:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE and Window DefenderREPLY

Hi Holger, its been my experience that, when installing Vipre.. Vipre's
process while installing will notify you to disable ANY other Anti-virus
programs. I only use Vipre on all my machines.  Best Regards  Andrew



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Sharon S]

Hi, I have the same issue using windows 10 and Jaws 18. I normally alt tab
between jaws and the log on screen and press esc key while on the log on
screen. Sometimes the esc works and sometimes it doesn't. I find between the
esc key, alt tabbing and just plain tabbing the edit box ends up coming up.
I have had this issue for quite some time but I don't have it occurring so
much on my PC running jaws 17 and my new laptop running jaws 2018 .All three
computers are running windows 10 with latest updates.

I would be interested if anyone is able to solve this one.
>From Shaz.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on
screen

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  

 

 

Mike Mote 

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at  
www.ifbsolutions.org 

Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Reed]

Hey!

I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version of
JAWS 2018.  This logon problem has been with me right from my first
installation of Windows 10.
I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion.

Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago.
He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem.  He
said that it is not wide-spread.  He told me to contact the Microsoft
Accessibility Help Desk.  I haven't had time to contact them yet.

The problem for me is really hit and miss.  Most of the time I don't hear
anything when my machine boots up.  Some times JAWS starts and tells me the
focus has been lost.  Some times, the Windows sound is heard.  Most of the
time it is not.  

When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to cancel
it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password
field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter.  Rather a
long process just to logon.

 Reed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Tom Behler
Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the
log on screen

Mike and all:

I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
latest build of Jaws 2018.

The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think the
problem is limited to Windows 10.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on
screen

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  

 

 

Mike Mote 

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at  
www.ifbsolutions.org 

Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006

Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr

Winston-Salem, NC 27106

 

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[JAWS-Users] searching outlook calendar

[christoap]

Please help:
I use JAWS 2018 and run Office 365 Outlook Calendar.
I use quick key ctrl-e to invoke a query and press enter but JAWS does not
read me the results even though I know the information is there when I
cursor to the relevant date. 

Where am I going wrong?  

All help appreciated.

Thanks

C.  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
AndrewDS
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 02:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE and Window DefenderREPLY

Hi Holger, its been my experience that, when installing Vipre.. Vipre's
process while installing will notify you to disable ANY other Anti-virus
programs. I only use Vipre on all my machines.  Best Regards  Andrew



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[JAWS-Users] jaws2018 and vipre question

[Dennis Long]

Hi, using jaws 2018 can you see what viper has quarantined?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[matthew dyer]

Hi all,

I like most of you  find that jaws either comes up very late or earlier 
depending on rather or not the machine is doing system updates or not.  I guess 
I am more patient then most.  I find that usually jaws will come up how ever it 
takes its good old time.  I have my windows 10 vm set to give me the login 
sound which works but as I said before this could be more of a windows thing 
rather than jaws.  Just my take on the matter.



> On Mar 28, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Tom Behler  wrote:
> 
> Mike and all:
> 
> I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
> latest build of Jaws 2018.
> 
> The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think the
> problem is limited to Windows 10.
> 
> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
> Mike Mote
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on
> screen
> 
> Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
> for me yet.
> 
> I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
> at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
> can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
> password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
> password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.
> 
> I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
> make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
> check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Mote 
> 
> Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources
> 
> IFB Solutions
> 
> Our Vision is Working - see more at  
> 
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.ifbsolutions.org=02%7C01%7C%7C0cccde4dcef64b76200208d594b5c8de%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636578430836975718=HurQ%2B%2FV89hQ3eUmXkFGjo2fnigkg5wkvivQYbzzSTrc%3D=0
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't find pin edit field with Jaws 2018 and Win 10

[Darra Lyons]

Turning on Narrator works.  Both Jaws and Narrator announce pin edit field.  
Thanks for all your help.
Darra

Sent from my iPhone

> On 28 Mar 2018, at 02:20, Rick Justice  wrote:
> 
> Sometimes, just pressing a key or two will evoke a response from Jaws.
> 
> HTH,
> Rick Justice
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "michael's mail" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't find pin edit field with Jaws 2018 and Win 
> 10
> 
> 
> Well that does not work for me i find lately nearly every time i need to
> turn narrator on to enter my password at start up.
> After narrator starts then jaws will see the edid box.
> Some times the control or dnter  will work but not offen.
> Cheers Michael.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Mr. Ed
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:33 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't find pin edit field with Jaws 2018 and Win
> 10
> 
> Hi Andy,
> Are you saying the letter E works when your computer boots up and you need
> to put the pin in?
> Mr. Ed
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of andy t
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 4:20 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't find pin edit field with Jaws 2018 and Win
> 10
> 
> Hello Mr. Ed, have you tried pressing the letter for edit? Usually that is
> what I do to find an edit field with jaws.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mr. Ed
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 4:48 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't find pin edit field with Jaws 2018 and Win
> 10
> 
> Hi Darra,
> This happens on many computers running W10 with Jaws. It happens on my
> computer also. What you can do is press ctrl + windows key + enter to turn
> on narrator and then arrow around until you find the edit box to enter your
> pin number. This does work for me most of the time when my computer does not
> bring up the edit field for the pin number.
> Mr. Ed
> 
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> Behalf Of Darra Lyons
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't find pin edit field with Jaws 2018 and Win 10
> 
> After turning on my computer Jaws says Jaws for window, but no matter what
> keys I press I can’t locate the pin edit field.  I have to get sighted help
> to put in the pin. I have the latest versions of Jaws 2018 and Win 10.
> Darra
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Re: [JAWS-Users] calculator

[JM Casey]

Are you having problems with the Windows calculator? Are you using Windows
10? Do you want the old calculator back?

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of K M Davis
Sent: March 28, 2018 12:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] calculator

Please recommend a JAWS friendly calculator.
Thanks in advance.

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[JAWS-Users] calculator

[K M Davis]

Please recommend a JAWS friendly calculator.
Thanks in advance.

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[JAWS-Users] vipre question

[Dennis Long]

Hi, if viper quarinteens something can you see what it is using jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

[Mike B.]

Hi Fernando & Holger,

One quick note;  When you want the search field / bar, press the Windows key 
/ Start key, now tab 1 time to put you in the search field.  Also, the other 
checboxes / settings being asked about, I've always made these settings in 
the operating system Start Menu properties.  I've never noticed these 
settings after clicking the, Windows Classic link, my setting of choice. 
After clicking the link this is the message I get, pretty much saying the 
skin is changed, & not giving any individual settings options.

Settings for Classic Start Menu 3.6.8 dialog
Start Menu Style Page
Select a default style for the start menu. The style will determine the 
initial order for the menu items and the skin settings.
Windows Classic Link

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the
next best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box,
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which
reports On or Off after the option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio
buttons after you click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press
enter on either, Windows Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista /
Windows 7 link.  Now after you press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All
Settings radio buttons, choose which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press
enter.  Now your settings are changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how
the chosen settings will look / be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is
why I say it takes some playing around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win
7settings, & both the Basic / All settings to get a feel for how Jaws will
read for you.  Personally, I don't care about the Explorer & IE settings, &
only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options &
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show
the way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, &
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic,
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Tom Behler]

Mike and all:

I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the
latest build of Jaws 2018.

The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think the
problem is limited to Windows 10.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on
screen

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  

 

 

Mike Mote 

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at  
www.ifbsolutions.org 

Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

[Mike B.]

Hi Fernando,

Well, I've never noticed the settings you're asking about, so probably the 
next best thing to do is take a look at the ReadMe.RTF file located here.

C:\Program Files\Classic Shell


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know 
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use 
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In 
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control 
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the 
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which 
reports On or Off after the option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic 
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio 
buttons after you click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press 
enter on either, Windows Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / 
Windows 7 link.  Now after you press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All 
Settings radio buttons, choose which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press 
enter.  Now your settings are changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how 
the chosen settings will look / be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is 
why I say it takes some playing around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 
7settings, & both the Basic / All settings to get a feel for how Jaws will 
read for you.  Personally, I don't care about the Explorer & IE settings, & 
only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show 
the way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way 
you want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the 
Start menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and 
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 
but did not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[amcarr1]

Hi Mike and All,

I am experiencing the same scenarios as you with logging into my Windows10
machines at both home and work.  In all cases I am using the latest builds
of JAWS2018 on varrious models of a Dell Latitude.  I've used Alt+Tab,
Control+Alt+Delete, Escape, and Narrator.  All with varrying results.
Narrator is the most consistent solution, but sometimes it will not load, or
at least that is how it appears.

Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on
screen

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  

 

 

Mike Mote 

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at  
www.ifbsolutions.org 

Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006

Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr

Winston-Salem, NC 27106

 

*Large font facilitates reading for people with low vision

 

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[JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen

[Mike Mote]

Hi folks!  This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been fixed
for me yet.

I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything
at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password.  Sometimes I
can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my
password.  Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the
password.  The behavior is inconsistent at best.

I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to
make JAWS work better in this situation.  Is there a setting that I need to
check, either in Windows or in JAWS?  Any help would be appreciated.  

 

 

Mike Mote 

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

Our Vision is Working - see more at  
www.ifbsolutions.org 

Email   mm...@ifbsolutions.org

Work Phone (336) 245-5650

Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006

Shipping:  7730 North Point Dr

Winston-Salem, NC 27106

 

*Large font facilitates reading for people with low vision

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

[Holger Fiallo]

That is I am looking. Do not like menues but would like to have letters. 
Also some how program is on top and the default apps that comes with W10 are 
below. Can I high programs in the start menue? Can they go to apps instead?


-Original Message- 
From: Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 1:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know 
are those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use 
the Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In 
all styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control 
Panel etc.) and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the 
states of checkboxes in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which 
reports On or Off after the option name.


Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic 
Settings & the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio 
buttons after you click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press 
enter on either, Windows Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / 
Windows 7 link.  Now after you press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All 
Settings radio buttons, choose which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press 
enter.  Now your settings are changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how 
the chosen settings will look / be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is 
why I say it takes some playing around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 
7settings, & both the Basic / All settings to get a feel for how Jaws will 
read for you.  Personally, I don't care about the Explorer & IE settings, & 
only configure the Start Menu settings.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show 
the way you want it.


To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.

Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way 
you want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the 
Start menu.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and 
jaws 2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 
but did not config Classic Shell.


Holger Fiallo

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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

It is in the box.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Hi David,

Would you please send me the program for opening the optical drive?  I can
use it on my Wife's laptop.  The piece along the side broke, & I always have
to open it manually through the context menu or My Computer.  Thanks mooy
moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


You got in the archives for that program Mr. Mike. I will hang on to it for
sure. I was looking for a utility to simply open and close the DVD drive
door and I got one. I will keep this as it will come in handy down the road
ejecting flash drives.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I should have gone to you in the first place, thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Howdy Boss,

Take a look in your DB folder for an alternative.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


Never mind folks as I did find such an animal a few moments ago. Good old
nir soft comes across again.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so to
speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

I will check it out just to see if it does do what it claims.

-Original Message- 
From: Hareth

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Hi David and all,
If you talking about this please disregard, If not give it a spin, its
an open source neat little thing if it does all it says, hotkeys and
more:
https://quickandeasysoftware.net/software/usb-disk-ejector

On 3/27/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

Ejecting the drive itself, and Like I said in a previous post I did find
such an animal.

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Forgive my ignorance, but are we talking about opening the drive door or
actually ejecting the drive itself? If it is about opening the CD drive
door, Alt-F and press j while on the drive.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 12:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a
hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so 
to

speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

[David Ferrin]

Yes sir as the saying goes the check is in the mail.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Hi David,

Would you please send me the program for opening the optical drive?  I can
use it on my Wife's laptop.  The piece along the side broke, & I always have
to open it manually through the context menu or My Computer.  Thanks mooy
moocho.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


You got in the archives for that program Mr. Mike. I will hang on to it for
sure. I was looking for a utility to simply open and close the DVD drive
door and I got one. I will keep this as it will come in handy down the road
ejecting flash drives.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I should have gone to you in the first place, thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

Howdy Boss,

Take a look in your DB folder for an alternative.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility


Never mind folks as I did find such an animal a few moments ago. Good old
nir soft comes across again.

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a utility

I had if memory serves a utility that would eject my DVD drive with a hotkey
and unfortunately it must have been deleted in my last house cleaning so to
speak. Does anybody have such an animal or know where to find it? I am off
to do a search myself soon as I send this message, I was just wondering in
case my search proves fruitless.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

[Fernando Gregoire]

Hi Mike,

Your are right on this. However, the checkboxes about which I want to know are 
those available in tree views.
For example, when in Classic Start Menu settings you choose Windows 7 style 
advanced settings, you can choose wetter initial focus is in the search box, 
or, in Windows XP style, wetter recent programs have keyboard shortcuts with 
numbers, initial letters or none, or additional search providers if you use the 
Windows 2000 and earlier classic style which had a Search sub-menu. In all 
styles you can specify which options to display (Documents, Control Panel etc.) 
and how, and here it would be useful to know instantly the states of checkboxes 
in a way similar to Folder Options tree view which reports On or Off after the 
option name.

Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Fernando,

The only checkboxes, so to speak, that are read by Jaws are the Basic Settings 
& the All Settings radio buttons.  You will get these 2 radio buttons after you 
click on a setting link, i.e; Open Start menu , press enter on either, Windows 
Classic link, Windows XP link, Windows Vista / Windows 7 link.  Now after you 
press enter, tab to the Basic Settings / All Settings radio buttons, choose 
which one you want, tab to, Okay, & press enter.  Now your settings are 
changed, but for me anyways, I don't know how the chosen settings will look / 
be read by Jaws until afterward.  This is why I say it takes some playing 
around with the Classic, XP, or Vista / Win 7settings, & both the Basic / All 
settings to get a feel for how Jaws will read for you.  Personally, I don't 
care about the Explorer & IE settings, & only configure the Start Menu settings.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the end 
you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: Fernando Gregoire
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Hi Mike,

Are you able to know when a setting in a given Classic Shell tree view is 
checked or unchecked? I didn't managed to get JAWS indicate this.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting

Hi Holger,

After installing Classic Shell you have to go into the various options & 
configure them.  for example, you need to configure the Start Menu to show the 
way you want it.

To do this:
1. Open the Start Menu, & open the All Programs sub-menu.
2. Find the Classic Shell program & open the folder.
3. In here you will have, Classic Explorer Settings, Classic IE9 settings, & 
Classic Start Menu settings.  Press enter on the 1 of choice to get to your 
options.
For example in the Classic Start Menu settings.  You have Windows Classic, 
Windows XP, & Windows Vista / Windows 7 links.
Click on 1 of them & choose from All settings or Basic settings.

It takes a little tinkering around, but eventually you'll get them the way you 
want them.  I believe I use the Windows Classic & All settings for the Start 
menu.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.

- Original Message -
From: Holger Fiallo
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 2:21 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Classic Shell setting


Does anyone know how to setup Classic Shell to look like W7? Using W10 and jaws 
2018. Had it set but when my PC had problems someone reinstalled W10 but did 
not config Classic Shell.

Holger Fiallo

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