Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[Gerald Levy]

Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS?  Does IE 11 seem to crash most 
often on certain web sites?  If so, can you provide the address of a site 
you are having trouble with?  I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have 
experienced no issues with IE 11.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to
work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
anyone have any suggestions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

[Gerald Levy]

Is there any JAWS accessible program that will automatically create a system 
restore point whenever you turn on your computer?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

Hi Lenny,

If System Restore is turned on it should have created a restore point before
installing the software, unless the scammers went in and turned it off
before installing, or had a way of thwarting the system.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
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From: el...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer


Lenny
I know that someone remotely installed the trash software, but this is a
perfect time to teach how to create a restore point. I create a new one even
when I am installing trusted software, but certainly if it is a program that
is new to me.
Good luck and the computer's owner should report this to the better business
bureau. If the person is on any user lists like this one, not a bad idea to
post information about the scam.
Good luck to you both,
Rick

Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413()  727-3038

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
andy t
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 12:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

   Hello lenny, have you tried system restore? If push comes to shove
you can always re install windows.

-Original Message-
From: Lenny McHugh
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 11:59 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] calling from windows trashed computer

A friend had his computer trashed by the calling from windows scam. He was
not thinking when they directed him to the event viewer to show him
problems. They installed some trash software that he must pay them to
remove. He quickly turned off his computer while screaming at them. Is there
any removal tool that I can use to clean his machine?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

[Gerald Levy]

Check out this free credit score site from Discover card.  You do not need 
to be a Discover cardholder to use it:


https://www.discover.com/free-credit-score/


Gerald



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From: Kimsan

Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

Hi,

Does anyone here know of a site where I can monitor my credit score that is
jaws accessible? I don't care paid or free, but if I pay, I would want it to
be jaws accessible.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Another interesting junk message how do you check for updates

[Gerald Levy]

Lenny, what ISP do you use?  I have the same problem with AOL Mail.  Some 
messages from a specific sender will be routed to my WLM In Box, while 
others from the same sender will wind up in the Junk Folder for no apparent 
reason.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 7:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Another interesting junk message how do you check for 
updates


This is a much simpler message and no explanation. The original question
went to my in box however the reply was flagged. Again this is windows live
mail 2012 on a win 7 machine.
I am really getting tired of having to check two folders for the rest of a
thread.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 2:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do you check for updates

Insert J go to help and check for updates.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of richard kurlander
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 12:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do you check for updates

how do you check for updates when you are in jaws/?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Gerald Levy]

Maybe Hollar.com is only accessible with Chrome and not with IE 11 or 
Firefox 52 ESR, both of which I tried.  Can't try Chrome because I'm still 
using JAWS 16.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

With Hollar, I had no issues adding a couple items to my cart.  The site
isn't what I'd call totally accessible -- but it's close.

I used Jaws 18 with Google Chrome version 66.something.

I searched for Mosquito and added a set of three mosquito bands to my cart.

Then, I went to the pest control category and added some rodent glue traps
to my cart.

I did n't try to checkout, but I did verify that there were two items in the
cart and it showed my total; although I needed a $10 minimum order to
check-out.

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart




Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites. 
For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on 
Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens.  I have tried the space bar, enter 
key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail.  And switching to 
another screen reader doesn't work, either.  If anyone has a work around, 
pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, 
and trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Judy,

That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which 
sites
you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you 
able

to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites?

C'mon, give us a clue here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites 
to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my 
cart.

I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of 
them

worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Gerald Levy]

I have set up an account on Hollar.com, but none of your suggestions work. 
This is one stubbornly inaccessible web site.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Gerald,
Okay, another shot using Hollar.com. I first tried to use the bypass key
(Insert+3) and then press spacebar -- no reaction. Tried it on both buttons.
Then Tried to route JAWS to pc and used left mouse button. I heard the word
"forbidden" and apparently nothing. Same with the "added" button. Not sure
if I am required to set up an account before I can actually purchase
something or not, so I didn't go further than that. Have you tied any of
these ideas?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:24
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



Thankks for checking out this site.  At least I'm not the only one who is
having this issue.  When you click on the add to shopping cart button,
nothing happens.  There is no audible feedback to indicate that any action
has been taken.  And there is apparently no way to access the shopping cart
to see whether anything has been added.  It's too bad because Hollar has a
lot of great stuff cheap, but I guess it is not JAWS accessible.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Gerald,

Out of curiosity, I went to hollar.com. Yes, found the same issue you
report. This shopping site does not play well, as compared to Amazon. Even
if I make sure to select a color, style, or size and make sure that there is
a quantity in the edit spin box, pressing on either the "Add to Cart?"
button or the "Added" button does not give any feedback. Moreover I'm not
familiar enough with the site to know just how to proceed to checkout to see
if the items are in the cart or not. I could not find an element with words
like "checkout", "proceed", "go to", or "view cart". I also suspect that
this site updates itself periodically without warning so as to wipe out the
current search list, so that added a level of frustration. I'll stick with
Amazon for now.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 03:30
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites.
For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on
Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens.  I have tried the space bar, enter
key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail.  And switching to
another screen reader doesn't work, either.  If anyone has a work around,
pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, and
trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Judy,

That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which sites
you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you able
to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites?

C'mon, give us a clue here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart.
I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them
worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Gerald Levy]

I just placed an order on Amazon last week using JAWS 16, and had no problem 
finding and activating the add to shopping cart button.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

noticing the same issue with amazon.com I tried to purchase something but
could not find any button to add to card. I did insert key and f7. Did not
work. Using IE 11, jaws 2018 and W10 april.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Gerald,

The presence of variable will depend on what you are ordering. I selected a
DIY frame, and a combo list was presented with a style type to pick. But
regardless, I was not able to work the buttons after that.

But I did see a thread on the JFW list with a similar issue in selecting
something on the screen. Here is that solution:

To select the tick box with JAWS, simply press the bypass key, JAWS key+3
then space bar.  This will tick it.

Give that  a try and let us know.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:11
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



On Hollar.com, there are no variables.  There are no elements other than the
quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping
cart button.  You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more
than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart.  But no keystroke
will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart
Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo
box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will
activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then a
number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size or
a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated.
There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on
the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to
JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will work.
Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate link
and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Judy

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart.
I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them
worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Gerald Levy]

Thankks for checking out this site.  At least I'm not the only one who is 
having this issue.  When you click on the add to shopping cart button, 
nothing happens.  There is no audible feedback to indicate that any action 
has been taken.  And there is apparently no way to access the shopping cart 
to see whether anything has been added.  It's too bad because Hollar has a 
lot of great stuff cheap, but I guess it is not JAWS accessible.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Gerald,

Out of curiosity, I went to hollar.com. Yes, found the same issue you
report. This shopping site does not play well, as compared to Amazon. Even
if I make sure to select a color, style, or size and make sure that there is
a quantity in the edit spin box, pressing on either the "Add to Cart?"
button or the "Added" button does not give any feedback. Moreover I'm not
familiar enough with the site to know just how to proceed to checkout to see
if the items are in the cart or not. I could not find an element with words
like "checkout", "proceed", "go to", or "view cart". I also suspect that
this site updates itself periodically without warning so as to wipe out the
current search list, so that added a level of frustration. I'll stick with
Amazon for now.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 03:30
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites.
For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on
Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens.  I have tried the space bar, enter
key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail.  And switching to
another screen reader doesn't work, either.  If anyone has a work around,
pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, and
trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Judy,

That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which sites
you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you able
to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites?

C'mon, give us a clue here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart.
I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them
worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Gerald Levy]

On Hollar.com, there are no variables.  There are no elements other than the 
quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping 
cart button.  You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more 
than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart.  But no keystroke 
will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart
Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo
box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will
activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then a
number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size or
a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated.
There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on
the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to
JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will work.
Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate link
and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Judy

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart.
I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them
worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Gerald Levy]

Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites. 
For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on 
Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens.  I have tried the space bar, enter 
key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail.  And switching to 
another screen reader doesn't work, either.  If anyone has a work around, 
pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, and 
trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Judy,

That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which sites
you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you able
to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites?

C'mon, give us a clue here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart.
I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them
worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

[Gerald Levy]

No, JAWS still does not work with Firefox 58 or higher, also known as 
Firefox Quantum.  The most secure version of Firefox that works with JAWS is 
Firefox 52 ESR.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Don Raikes

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 11:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

Hi,



Is there any version of jaws that works with the new firefox quantum?



I am interested in upgrading firefox to obtain any security updates, but I 
remember hearing that there are problems with firefox quantum and jaws, 
buthaven't heard if the issues have been fixed.




Any info would be appreciated.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Gerald Levy]

It sounds like CCleaner 5.42 is a screwed-up mess.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Gerald,

I'll jump in here, as well. I'm using version 5.42.6495. Windows 7 32-bit
Professional SP 1.Using JAWS 2018 latest build, but works all the way back
to version 16, as well.  As I tab through the program, I land on buttons. I
press a button with the spacebar, and continue to tab, as there are now
other buttons resulting. e.g. if I tab past the Tools button, I land on the
next button -- Options. But is I select Tools, Uninstall, Startup, Browser
Plug Ins, etc. With continual Tabbing, I come back around to the first
button "Check for Updates".

If I select the Uninstall button,and tab enough, I land on a list view,
showing all my installed programs. I can navigate this list using the
up/down arrows, as well as first-letter navigation to jump quickly to a
particular program.

There are times when I select from a list and select an action like remove,
where I lose focus. Then all I do is Alt-tab away and back in to CCleaner
and tab back to the list. IF that is not accessible, then I have several
other programs that are totally worse.


Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 03:57
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?



I don't understand.  Mike D., one of the most knowledgeable members of this
list insists that CCleaner 5.42 is not JAWS accessible, yet you claim that
you have no issues with it.  How can this be?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

I have no issues with 5.42

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


That's reassuring.  But Piriform has been known to play games with its
customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with
CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to
sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to
the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible.
Is this true?


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install without any
third party software at all.
At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


So are you saying that you were able to download and install the

standard version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast
being installed along withit?


Gerald



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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Gerald Levy]

I don't understand.  Mike D., one of the most knowledgeable members of this 
list insists that CCleaner 5.42 is not JAWS accessible, yet you claim that 
you have no issues with it.  How can this be?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

I have no issues with 5.42

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Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?


That's reassuring.  But Piriform has been known to play games with its
customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with
CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to
sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to
the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible.
Is this true?


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install without any
third party software at all.
At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


So are you saying that you were able to download and install the

standard version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast
being installed along withit?


Gerald



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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Gerald Levy]

That's reassuring.  But Piriform has been known to play games with its 
customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with 
CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to 
sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to 
the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible. 
Is this true?



Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install
without any third party software at all.
At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


So are you saying that you were able to download and install the

standard version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like
Avast being installed along withit?


Gerald



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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Gerald Levy]

So are you saying that you were able to download and install the standard 
version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast being 
installed along withit?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Really helpful, and you gave me the confidence just now to download and 
install the CCleaner update. One more note. Now, when you click the button 
to upgrade from the program, the first page has two links near the bottom, 
one saying "Yes" and the other "No." Click no to get past the business/pro 
versions, and then on the next page you can safely use a download link.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Orlando Enrique Fiol

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 12:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald.
The CCleaner download page is somewhat counterintuitive. However, once you 
activate one of the many download links, the standard installer will get 
downloaded to your default downloads directory.
Although CCleaner used to install Avast by default, there is good news. 
First, using the Jaws cursor in the installer, you can uncheck the relevant 
box. But better still, the last three versions of CCleaner standard did not 
automatically install any third party software. The check box for Avast is 
now absent.

At 07:11 AM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote:


When I launched CCleaner this morning to clean up my hard drive, I was 
>greeted with the message that a new version, 5.42, was available for 
>download.  Normally, I download the slim version of CCleaner from the 
>Builds page below, but when I went to this page, I could not find the 
>slim version; only the standard and portable versions.  Does anyone  >know 
what happened to the slim version of CCleaner?  Has it been  >discontinued? 
I am reluctant to download the standard version because  >it will 
automatically install Avast anti-virus surreptitiously, which  >is 
difficult to impossible to remove without sighted help. I have  >Unchecky 
installed on my computer, but there no longer seems to be a  >detectable 
check box on the Standard installer interface which can be  >unchecked to 
prevent the installation of Avast.  Is there any way to  >install the 
standardversion of CCleaner without also installing Avast?
Or is there another site from where the slim version of CCleaner 5.42 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Gerald Levy]

Mike, I specdifically indicated that I do not want to bother with the hassle 
of removing Avast, which, according to your instructions, may require 
booting into safe mode, which is impossible without sighted help because 
JAWS still does not provide speech.  Some users on other lists have reported 
being unable to remove Avast without booting into safe mode to use the 
removal tool, and I don't want to take any chances.  Beside, I do not want 
to have to remove Avast every time a new version of CCleaner is released, 
which is pretty frequently.  So I guess the bottom line is that I will 
simply have to keep CCleaner 5.38 without updating it. Go Yankees!


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 7:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

Hi Gerald,

You can remove Avast with the removal tool very easily.  Read all the steps
first, and there's a download link for the tool below the steps.  Here's the
steps:
1. Press enter on the, AvastClear, .EXE file.
2. You will get the following message:

Avast Antivirus Clear
It is recommended to run this tool from Windows Safe Mode.
Do you want to do that?
Press "Yes" to reboot into Safe Mode now and run this tool
from there.
Press "No" to continue running this tool as it is (not
recommended).
Yes No
3. Tab to the, No button, & press enter or spacebar.  Now press the spacebar
on the, Uninstall button, to start the uninstall process as Administrator.
After Avast is uninstalled you should get a prompt to restart the computer.
When the computer reboots you can check to see if any remnants of the
program are left behind.  The 1 time I used this removal tool the only
remnant I found left behind was an Avast folder in the Program Files, &
Program Data folders on the root of the C drive, but I did not check the
registry.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/q0hfbuog4ep8oyz/AAAMzSaeMUZRJCsHBG6iQJCja?dl=1


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 4:11 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?



When I launched CCleaner this morning to clean up my hard drive, I was
greeted with the message that a new version, 5.42, was available for
download.  Normally, I download the slim version of CCleaner from the Builds
page below, but when I went to this page, I could not find the slim version;
only the standard and portable versions.  Does anyone know what happened to
the slim version of CCleaner?  Has it been discontinued?  I am reluctant to
download the standard version because it will automatically install Avast
anti-virus surreptitiously, which is difficult to impossible to remove
without sighted help. I have Unchecky installed on my computer, but there no
longer seems to be a detectable check box on the Standard installer
interface which can be unchecked to prevent the installation of Avast.  Is
there any way to install the standardversion of CCleaner without also
installing Avast?  Or is there another site from where the slim version of
CCleaner 5.42 can be downloaded?  Thanks.

https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/builds


Gerald

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[JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?

[Gerald Levy]

When I launched CCleaner this morning to clean up my hard drive, I was greeted 
with the message that a new version, 5.42, was available for download.  
Normally, I download the slim version of CCleaner from the Builds page below, 
but when I went to this page, I could not find the slim version; only the 
standard and portable versions.  Does anyone know what happened to the slim 
version of CCleaner?  Has it been discontinued?  I am reluctant to download the 
standard version because it will automatically install Avast anti-virus 
surreptitiously, which is difficult to impossible to remove without sighted 
help. I have Unchecky installed on my computer, but there no longer seems to be 
a detectable check box on the Standard installer interface which can be 
unchecked to prevent the installation of Avast.  Is there any way to install 
the standardversion of CCleaner without also installing Avast?  Or is there 
another site from where the slim version of CCleaner 5.42 can be downloaded?  
Thanks.

https://www.ccleaner.com/ccleaner/builds


Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail [Discontinued]

[Gerald Levy]

Yes, Window Eyes was discontinued in 2016 after AI Squared merged with 
Freedom Scientific to create VFO, and all W.E. users were migrated to JAWS.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: cheez

Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 8:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail [Discontinued]

Just out of curiosity, wasn't Window Eyes discontinued?  I thought I read
that somewhere.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail



poor scripting.
window eyes  has no problem with the message status
why can't they do this with jaws? jaws has been around just as long  or 
longer then window eyes was.


-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 6:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

Jaws does say unread and doesn't say read, attachment, forwarded and 
replied

to.

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I am using WLM in Windows 10 with Jaws 2018 and it says unread and
attachment when arrowing up and down the message list.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I just wished Jaws would speak the status of the messages when you up and
down arrow the message list in wlm.  Another screen reader I used in the
past would say: unread, read, attachment, forwarded and replied to.

-Original Message- 
From: Marvin Atkins

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

David,

I use the WLM you speak of which has been discontinued by Microsoft.

The auto complete does work but you have to tab away and then tab back.

Using JAWS 2018 with Win10.

Marvin

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

Good evening;
when you say windows live mail,
are you talking about the windows live mail which has been discontinued by
Microsoft?
the one which is never to be updated?
or are you talking about the windows mail app, with windows 10.
if it's the windows live mail,
the autofill will never work, because there's no jaws scripting, so, even
the NVDA doesn't autofill.
if your talking about the windows 10 mail app, again there's no jaws
scripting, however with the NVDA, there's a windows essentials add-on 
which

works well.


  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf 
Of

Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I have the same problem in Windows Live Mail as you are having in Outlook.
Autocomplete has never worked for me. I began using JAWS 17, and the 
problem


has been unabated through JAWS 2018 on a Windows 7 64-bit Pro PC. In fact,
when I pressed Control+K just now, the Check Names feature was activated,
but no names were found. When another screen reader is used, the
Autocomplete feature works perfectly. I'm sorry to say that.

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

With a lot of help from David Whitehead, my Outlook 2016 is working. But 
the

auto complete isn't so basically, I suppose there's still something
corrupted. The Microsoft person told me that he'd emptied auto complete, 
and
that if I write the first few letters and press control K, I'd get a list 
of
relevant addresses from which I could choose. I tried that just now with 
my

daughter's address and the list the control K brought up was completely
irrelevant. And I still have to paste in the correct address for the DB
Review list. David helped me upgrade to Jaws 2018 and we got rid of the to
Miriam folder,so I think that auto complete is just not going to happen,
except for the blind democracy list for some unknown reason.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

[Gerald Levy]

Apple plans to stop making routers altogether, so there will be no 
replacement for the Airport Express.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

Didn't hear about that. Wonder what they will replace it with?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 03:20
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws



But Apple just announced yesterday that it will stop making and selling the
Airport router, so this  nay no longer be a viable alternative.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

David,

Oh, the Apple Airport router definitely works with Windows, as well as Mac.
It does not care. It generates a very strong signal, compared to my Arris
router.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:12
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


Dave, I have never heard of this router, please elaborate on it if you can.

I was always under the impression that anything Apple would not be so easy
to configure in Windows.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

Sandy,

As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport
router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well.

You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your
incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with
the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability.
However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use
the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy h" <bshende...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


thanks

On 4/26/18, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote:

I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the
easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible.

-Original Message-
From: sandy h
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

[Gerald Levy]

But unfortunately, by then, the Airport router will probably no longer be 
available:


https://www.engadget.com/2018/04/26/apple-discontinues-airport-wifi-routers/


Gerald


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 7:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

Thank you sir: when such a time comes up again to replace my existing router
which seems to happen every so many years I will keep this model in mind.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

David,

Oh, the Apple Airport router definitely works with Windows, as well as Mac.
It does not care. It generates a very strong signal, compared to my Arris
router.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:12
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


Dave, I have never heard of this router, please elaborate on it if you can.

I was always under the impression that anything Apple would not be so easy
to configure in Windows.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

Sandy,

As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport
router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well.

You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your
incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with
the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability.
However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use
the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy h" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


thanks

On 4/26/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the
easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible.

-Original Message-
From: sandy h
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

[Gerald Levy]

But Apple just announced yesterday that it will stop making and selling the 
Airport router, so this  nay no longer be a viable alternative.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

David,

Oh, the Apple Airport router definitely works with Windows, as well as Mac.
It does not care. It generates a very strong signal, compared to my Arris
router.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:12
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


Dave, I have never heard of this router, please elaborate on it if you can.

I was always under the impression that anything Apple would not be so easy
to configure in Windows.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

Sandy,

As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport
router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well.

You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your
incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with
the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability.
However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use
the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy h" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws


thanks

On 4/26/18, David Ferrin  wrote:

I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the
easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible.

-Original Message-
From: sandy h
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws

can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with receiving e-mails and password

[Gerald Levy]

I suggest that you go to Fast.com to check your Internet download speed.  It 
has been my experience that this problem can be caused by excessively slow 
Internet download speeds.  If Fast.com shows that your Internet speed is 
less than say, 500 kbps, then contact your ISP to determine whether you have 
an Internet connectivity problem.



Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Al Sorrentino

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 12:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with receiving e-mails and password

Hi Everyone,



I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 and Outlook 2010



In the past couple of weeks, I have been having problems receiving e-mails.
Usually I would receive from 150 to 200 e-mails a day.  Now I am lucky if I
receive 100 e-mails a day.  This problem must have started a few weeks ago.
In the past, as soon as I would turn on my computer all my new e-mails would
instantly appear and now it takes quite a long time for them to appear.   I
have sent myself test e-mails to see, but even if I press F-9, my new
e-mails will not appear quickly as they did in the past.



Around the same time of this problem happening, when ever I was in my
Outlook screen either preparing an e-mail, or reading my e-mails, I would
get a pop up saying something to the effect of Internetproviders name and it
would ask me to enter my password which I never had.  As soon as I would
press Escape it would take me back to my document.  Before, it may have
happened once a day, but today it is happening every minute or so.  It is
quite annoying.  I am sure that these two problems are somehow connected.



For a very long time I had Verizon as my provider and for some reason
Verizon purchased AOL and they are running the e-mails.



Any help will be greatly appreciated on how I can alleviate these problems.



Al Sorrentino



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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

[Gerald Levy]

The late Jim Kitchen developed a series of free, self-voicing completely 
accessible games for the blind that includes a suite of casino games like 
Blackjack, Slot Machine, Craps, Roulette  and Draw Poker.  You can download 
the entire suite of games here:


https://blog.bryansmart.com/2015/08/12/kitchens-sink-1-0/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 11:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

But are they self voicing or accessible for the blind?

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

Perhaps you can do a search for Destenno games. They were originally written
for DOS but were ported to Windows. The suite includes a great blackjack
game as well as craps, a slot machine, and a few other games.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Kevin Lee" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games



Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a
memory stick.
I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but
this person doesn’t program gambling type games.
It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!

E-mail is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

[Gerald Levy]

you're probably right.  I'm still running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and I have 
not experienced any freezing issues with JAWS.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David G. Carlson Via iPhone

Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

George,
If you have jaws 16 on your machine, run jaws 16  for a while and see if the 
problem goes away. I’m betting on it will.


Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 28, 2018, at 8:10 AM, George Marshall  
wrote:


Hi:

I am using Windows 7, jaws 2018 and eight gig of RAM. I have the freezing
problem it will freeze while reading email or in Microsoft word version 10
and I've seen it do it on the Internet. Have no idea what the solution is.

Thanks

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 7:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I must report that I am not experiencing this freezing problem at all here.
In fact 2018 is quite stable on the systems I have it installed and use
every day as a matter of fact. Naturally all systems do not act the same for
various reasons.

-Original Message-
From: John Vernaleken`
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I guess it comes down to the question - Is it Windows 10 or JAWS? I think
JAWS.

John


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joediner...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I am running JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 Pro machine and experiencing the same
thing regarding freezing. In fact it happened to me the other day when I was
taking a Freedom Scientific certification exam Thinking there is a little
bit of irony there. If you leave the machine alone speech usually returns in
3 or 4 minutes.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Vernaleken`
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

I have JAWS 2018 and run Windows 10 and it seems to be freezing up more
often than a few weeks ago.

John


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is
freezing?

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all
the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing

Hello:



This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading
an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it
would just stop working.

I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the
hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] weather underground

[Gerald Levy]

To get the weather for Huntington, NY or anywhere else, for that matter, 
visit the following page and enter the appropriate zip code into the edit 
field:


https://braille.wunderground.com/auto/braille/Region/US/MaxTemp5Day.html


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] weather underground

If you have further difficulties after the directions you received so far
I'm certain somebody would be willing to help you directly, note if you
tandem up with anybody make sure you are reasonably comfortable with
allowing them in to your system.

Once in a while we all need some help, myself included. Just give a yell.

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] weather underground

I have a lovely icon on my desktop which says, "Weather Underground Westbury
NY 11590". I'm moving to South Huntington New York on Friday. I can't
remember what I did to get that Westbury weather on my desktop. I'm old. My
memory is gone. And I was never good at this stuff to begin with. Can anyone
tell me how to get the Huntington weather?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

[Gerald Levy]

Nice idea, but the OCR feature cannot solve image captchas.  In fact, Eric 
Damery has asserted for years that it would be difficult to impossible to 
add a captcha-solving feature to JAWS.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 1:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

[Gerald Levy]

To clear up any confusion, Open Book uses its own built-in speech, not JAWS. 
To initiate a scan in Open Book 9, press the space bar.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] openbook

what is the hot key to initiate a scan in openbook 9
using jaws 2018 on windows 10 latest.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trying to use the free version of Revo Uninstaller

[Gerald Levy]

If you have installed or updated CCleaner recently, Avast may have been 
surreptitiously installed also.  That's because Avast now owns Piriform, the 
company that markets CCleaner.  There have been reports on this and other 
lists of Avast being installed along with CCleaner.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Michael

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 12:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trying to use the free version of Revo Uninstaller

I beg your pardon.  As far as I know, Avast was not preinstalled when I
bought the desktop computer.  Having said that, Avast was also installed on
my laptop pc running Windows 7 64 bit around the same time.  So, I
respectfully disagree with you.  Thank you.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of cheez
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 8:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trying to use the free version of Revo Uninstaller

Pretty sure Avast was pre-installed on your computer when you bought it.
Good luck in un-installing it.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Michael " 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:55 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trying to use the free version of Revo Uninstaller



When I try to use the free version of Revo Uninstaller 2.04 using Jaws
2018
to uninstall Avast antivirus software, I hear the version number followed
by
a graphic 667 type in text after the user account control is accepted.
When
I press enter after hearing the graphic message, nothing happens, and all
I
get is a ding sound.  I can't get the program to work under Windows 7 or
Windows 10.  And, I don't know how Avast got installed, so please don't
ask.
Thank you.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Web site message

[Gerald Levy]

Another tip.  If your PDF documents are being read by Acrobat Reader PC or 
Adobe Reader, you should uncheck the box in the Accessibility Set Up 
Assistant labeled, "Open PDF documents in the web browser", which may be 
checked by default.  To do this, launch Acrobat Reader, go to the Edit menu 
and scroll all the way down to the Accessibility submenu.  Select Set up 
Assistant, and on the fifth and final page of the Assistant, tab to this 
check box and uncheck it.  Opening PDF documents in the browser can 
sometimes cause problems with JAWS or the browser itself.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Laura Richardson

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Web site message

Thank you for the info ..

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Web site message

Alt s should allow you to have it come up in pdf so jaws can read it.
For what I've experienced, you do have to close down the internet in those
situations.
What I do is use control enter to open those up, so I goes to anotuerh
window.  Then, if you want to cloe it, you can just close that window
without losing the internet.  Remember to hit control tab to go to the other
window you opened.

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Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 2:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Web site message

Hello,



When I went to a web site I got the following message:

Infer reading order from document (recommended)

Left- to - right top - to - bottom reading order

Use reading order in raw print stream



There is nothing to click on .. I cannot back out of this site with back
space or alt + left arrow .. I cannot go to favorites with alt + a .. The
only way to get off this site is alt + f4 which takes me off the internet
completely.



Has anybody come across this situation?  If so, do you have any suggestions
or remedies? .. Using Jaws 18, Windows 10 & Internet Explorer.



Thank you,

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[JAWS-Users] Accessible Alternative to CCleaner

[Gerald Levy]

According to a warning posted on other lists by our esteemed colleague, Mike 
D., installing the latest version of CCleaner may also surreptitiously install 
Avast anti-virus on your computer.  This is not surprising, since Puriform, the 
company that develops and markets CCleaner is now owned by Avast.  But 
unfortunately, Avast is no longer JAWS accessible.  And uninstalling it could 
be problematic because it is necessary to boot into safe mode in order to use 
the special tool to completely remove itl, according to the Avast site.  So is 
there any JAWS accessible alternative to CCleaner?  I am afraid to update to 
the latest version for fear of getting stuck with Avast which may be difficult 
to impossible to remove without sighted help.

Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Turn Off the JAWS key identifier?

[Gerald Levy]

To turn off the JAWS key help mode, press the JAWS key (Insert) + numrow 1. 
This is a toggle, so pressing Insert-numrow 1 again will turn key help mode 
back on.


sGerald

-Original Message- 
From: Dave Basden

Sent: Friday, November 03, 2017 4:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Turn Off the JAWS key identifier?

I'm a new JAWS user and have managed to turn something on so that my
key presses always name the key pressed, but take no action.  Even
rebooting leaves me in this state.  How do I turn it off?

Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Scanned Image and JAWS OCR

[Gerald Levy]

I don't think you're doing anything wrong.  You need to install the 
just-released public version of JAWS 2018 to take advantage of expanded OCR 
capabilities that allow you to scan documents using a flatbed scanner or 
Pearl camera and convert them into speech.  Earlier versions of JAWS lack 
this feature.  For more information on the JAWS 2018 expanded OCR function, 
see this article:


http://www.perkinselearning.org/technology/posts/jaws-2018-and-expanded-ocr


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Scanned Image and JAWS OCR

Morning all.

I just scanned a copy of my discharge papers from the US Coast Guard. After 
saving it, I tried to open it and read it using JAWS OCR. I pressed the 
JawsKey and Spacebar. Then I hit O for OCR, and then D. I heard a piano 
chime, but nothing from JAWS after that. Can anyone tell me what I am doing 
wrong on this? I went into my pictures folder in This PC to get the 
properties on the image, but could not get any specifics on it. I am running 
JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. I am also using a Canon CanoScan 
scanner. Thanks in advance.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac Virsus PC's

[Gerald Levy]

Actually, somebody on another list claims that he is successfully running 
JAWS on an Apple  Mac using a dual boot configuration.  Is this possible?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mac Virsus PC's

It's time to take this subject off-list since Jaws does not run on Apple
products.

Thank you,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM and Contacts List

[Gerald Levy]

To delete an unwanted contact in WLM, press Control-numrow 3 to access your 
contacts list and highlight the contact you want to delete.  Then launch the 
context menu and select delete contact.


Gerald



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From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM and Contacts List

Morning all.

I know how to get to the screen for creating a new contact in Windows Live 
Mail. Can anyone tell me how to get to my list to delete unused contacts? I 
am using JAWS 17 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Intro and Internet Explorer Problem

[Gerald Levy]

Yes, this sounds like a problem with cookies.  Have you tried deleting your 
browsing history using this option on the IE Tools menu?  You might also try 
deleting cookies using CCleaner.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Glenn At Home

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Intro and Internet Explorer Problem

Hello All,
This is Glenn in Northeast Nebraska.
I believe in myself to be a relatively computer-wise person most of the 
time, but I have a problem that has me stumped this time, and hoping someone 
here might have an idea for me.
I called Amazon about this problem, and they could not help me, they don't 
have a clue.
Anyway, what happened is that I was trying to help someone with little 
computer skills, via eMail, because he was having a problem with making some 
purchases from Amazon.com.
So I suggested that he try the access page by typing in the Amazon.com URL 
with /access at the end.
He could not make that simple thing happen, so I told him that I would eMail 
him the URL, because he can press enter on a link.
Well, all that helped, but to be sure that the /access page was still going 
on with Amazon, I actually did it first from my Internet Explorer.
It is, and I copied the URL and sent it to him, and that was the end of his 
problems, and the beginning of mine.


I prefer IE over FireFox, which I also have installed.
But now, there is no way I can get to a non-access page on Amazon.com, and I 
would prefer the non-access page, because I don't want separate links for 
reviews and details, and I like headings on pages, which the access pages 
lack.
I can copy the URL from IE, and paste it into the open page dialog in FF, 
and I get a normal non-access page.
So I tried to copy the non-access URL from FF, and paste it into the open 
page dialog in IE, and it takes me to an access page in IE.


I am using Windows 7 64 bit and the latest IE for windows 7 and Jaws 18.
I'm thinking that this is a cookie problem.
I looked under my name-folder and found cookies, but windows treats it like 
a file and asks me which program to open it with.
I had asked on another list and a good suggestion was to export my cookies 
and then delete the cookie folder, and then import the cookies.
I did that, and with IE all closed out, but when I went back in, I still get 
Amazon's access page.


I'm hoping for another suggestion.
Thanks.

Glenn


Lenny/Glenn/N0YJV

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would be in such keeping as our souls are now."

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circumstances."

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[Gerald Levy]

Sorry, I don't think so.  Eric clearly states that you must be an employee 
of a company, agency or organization that has a VFO software license to be 
eligible for the JAWS low-cost home use program.  If you want to purchase 
JAWS for personal use, you will have to pay full price, regardless of your 
income or whether you are living on SSI or SSDI.  Keep in mind that some 
blind consumers who complain that they can't afford the high cost of JAWS 
are already licking their chops to buy the new IPhone 8 for $799 without 
batting an eyelash, so it's a matter of priorities. To be perfectly blunt, 
anyone who is living on SSI or SSDI should not be shelling out hundreds of 
dollars for a smart phone plus the $70 to $100 per month for service if they 
can barely pay the rent or put food on the table.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Michael Amaro

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So what about those of us that don't work for an organization?  Can the
average fixed income person Such as SSI or SSDI take advantage of this offer
as well?

--
From: "Eric Damery" <edam...@vfogroup.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:33 PM
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?


Hi JAWS User List,

Just wanted to jump in and explain more about this opportunity. In 
addition to the national trade shows, it's also something that is 
available for anyone in the United States or Canada who is working at an 
organization that owns a current version multiuser license JAWS, Fusion, 
or ZoomText license. We call this the Home Use Program and it’s a great 
deal that thousands of users currently take advantage of today. Modeled 
after the "Microsoft User at Home Program" where employees at very large 
organizations who own a certain level of office products, employees can 
buy the subscription for home for about $10 per year.


For Freedom Scientific products, we offer prices for a new Home Edition 
License of JAWS for just $125, regular price is $900. Fusion Home Edition 
is just $150, regular price is $1200. ZoomText is just $100.
Upgrades from real old versions is also greatly reduced, and you can get 
the SMAs discounted about 20%. Plus, once you are registered in the system 
under the Home Use Program, you are entitled to a 20% discount on hardware 
products, which can be a huge savings on something like a $2500 Braille 
Display, where you can save up to $500.


If you work for an organization that has a multiuser license of any of the 
Freedom Scientific or AiSquared products, please ask someone there about 
the program. It cost them nothing to participate other than having their 
license up to date. And the employees do the purchases direct with Freedom 
Scientific so they are not involved in the transaction.


Most Federal and State agencies are already in it but hundreds of 
companies and organizations are already signed up.


Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO™ | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716
T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001
edam...@vfogroup.com
www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 3:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

Thank you for taking the rains in this matter. I was hoping to avoid a 
long argument or debate when a simple phone call could clear things up 
right away.


-Original Message-
From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

So, I did exactly what you asked, David.

Hal, of VFO, informed me that this special was for conventions only and is 
no longer in effect.




lucky1i...@gmail.com

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--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 1:01 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

I suggest somebody who is curious about this matter contact VFO
directly to confirm or denounce this prospect.

I wouldn't want a long drawn out discussion to start as it would not
serve to further the ability of any person to use JAWS.

-Original Message- From: Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

   I'd rather pay $120 for two SMA upgrades than $225.


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 9/14/2017 12:10 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:

This sounds too good to be true, but someone on another list claims
that he was told by a VFO phone rep today that they now offer a
low-cost program whereby you can purchase a full copy of JAWS for a
one-time payment of only $125, or $225 with two 

[JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[Gerald Levy]

This sounds too good to be true, but someone on another list claims that he was 
told by a VFO phone rep today that they now offer a low-cost program whereby 
you can purchase a full copy of JAWS for a one-time payment of only $125, or 
$225 with two SMA’s regardless of income, rather than the standard price of 
$1000.  Has anyone heard about this low-cost program?  Or did this person 
misunderstand what the rep told him?  After all, if anyone, excluding 
businesses and government agencies,  could buy a fully unrestricted copy of 
JAWS for a mere $125, why would they choose to buy it for the regular price of 
$1000 instead?  This just doesn’t make any sense.  There must be a catch.

Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......

[Gerald Levy]

The easiest way to get to the check box to verify whether virtual ribbon 
menus are turnd off is to launch the Start-Up Wizard on the JAWS help menu 
and navigate to the third page of the wizard where the check box is located.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

When someone helped me set up Office 365, I think the virtual ribbons were
turned off. However, I'm not sure that they're turned off now because I
haven't needed to use the ribbons as she set up what I needed. But can you
tell me how to turn them off if they're on, please?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

Hi, Laura.

Rose previously posted a message that was critical of the JAWS virtual
ribbon that I agree with. For one thing, it prevents you from using familiar
shortcuts. In a bigger picture sense that might or might not matter to you,
avoiding the regular Microsoft ribbon will make it more difficult to get
sighted assistance, since they won't know anything about the JAWS virtual
ribbon. For this and other reasons, I prefer to use the MS ribbons.

Each of us has a different way of learning the MS ribbons. Whenever
possible, I will use a shortcut instead of delving into the ribbon. For
example, I'll press control-d to get to the font dialog rather than go
hunting for it in the ribbon.

Another way of getting around the ribbons is to use the applications key,
between the right Windows and control keys on most keyboards. This is where
I go for the dialog that takes you through line-spacing, margins, etc.

But then there are the times when you must use the ribbon. Here, you may
find yourself remembering what are called key tips. For example, when I want
to place the page number at a certain point on a page (top left, top middle,
etc.), I press the following keys: alt+n together for "insert," and then n,
u in quick succession. I'm immediately in the right dialog.

When you explore the MS ribbons, listen carefully for these key tips. I find
they aren't always easy to hear, but usually I can make them out. The
example I just gave will be verbalized when you go through the "insert" part
of the ribbon.

I'm not pretending to give you an exhaustive explanation of the MS ribbons,
but I hope it might help you think about how to approach them. Shortcuts,
applications key, key tips, in that order of simplicity. When I first faced
the MS ribbons, I was intimidated. I shouldn't have been. Just learn what
you need as the need arises. And never hesitate to post questions here.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Laura Richardson
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

Hello,



When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to
learn how to navigate these ribbons.



Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more
efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off?  I want and need to
learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly
appreciated.



Thanks in advance,

Laura









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ......

[Gerald Levy]

Follow these steps to turn off the JAWS virtual ribbon menu feature:

Perform the following steps to use JAWS Settings Center to enable or disable 
Virtual Ribbon Menus:

1.First, press INSERT+F2 to activate the Run JAWS Managers list.
2.Press the letter S until you land on the settings center item and press 
ENTER to activate it. The settings center dialog box opens with the cursor 
in the search edit box.

3.Press CTRL+SHIFT+D to activate the default settings.
4.Type the word "ribbon" (without the quotes).
5.Press the DOWN ARROW to move through the list of search results until you 
land on the Use Virtual Ribbon Menu check box.
6. Press the SPACE BAR to uncheck the box to turn off virtual ribbon menus. 
Check it again to turn virtual ribbon menus  back on.

7.Press TAB to move to the OK button, and activate it.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Laura Richardson

Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

Would you or somebody please tell me how to turn off the virtual ribbon?

Laura


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..

I would turn off the virtual ribbon. It is handy, but you become dependent
on them and they don't work as well as the original menus, since they don't
use first-letter navigation. I tried them briefly years ago and decided to
buckle down and just learn to use the ribbons.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Laura Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2017 06:58
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Learning MS ribbons - virtual or not ..


Hello,



When it comes to navigating MS Word ribbons I'm pretty much a beginner.
I've memorized certain shortcut keys to do very specific things but need to
learn how to navigate these ribbons.



Right now virtual ribbons are turned on .. Would it be easier and more
efficient to learn the ribbons if I turned this off?  I want and need to
learn as much as I can so any feedback and suggestions are greatly
appreciated.



Thanks in advance,

Laura









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Re: [JAWS-Users] Application Key

[Gerald Levy]

Try Shift-F10 to launch the context menu.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Doug Murray

Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2017 7:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Application Key

Hello

I am trying to access the applications menu with Jaws. I have a key board 
without this key.

Is there a Windows key stroke to do this ?
Doug
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

[Gerald Levy]

Yes, typing "jaws18" into the Run dialog (no spaces) should launch it 
normally.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 9:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

And will that cause Jaws to start again?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Roger Levine
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

Hi Miream,
Hi Meriam,
Type Win key+r and hit enter
Now type jaws18 and enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

Please tell me again, in detail, what to do when Jaws 18 disappears. I wrote
down to press Jaws key plus windows key plus F4 and this turns off Jaws. And
if I press these keys again, they act as a toggle. Am I supposed to press
them simultaneously? When I press them the first time, I can see with my
hugely magnified Magic that the screen changes. But I haven't gotten Jaws to
restart with those keys or with any others. I am having to resort to turning
the computer off with the button and then turning it on again. Even though I
can see that I've moved to the screen that says, "Shut Down", the key
strokes don't work. But, after I press the button, just before the screen
changes, Jaws says something, but then the computer shuts down. I have a 64
bit windows 7 computer. I'd sell my soul for a key stroke that would just
get Jaws working again without having to shut down the computer and wait for
it to start and load.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Test message

[Gerald Levy]

I had the same problem myself yesterday and had to re-enable my 
subscription.  .  Apparently, some ISP's, notably AOL Mail are bouncing 
messages to this list.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Test message

I am testing my email, the jaws list said my account is being stopped 
because of too many bounces.


Your humble Pinhead!
Owner of the Windows 10 and Jaws group!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

[Gerald Levy]

trolSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{4D36E96C-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
@="[6cFgE][Şοûпđ, νìδ℮ô άήδ ğªмè ¢őήťřόℓŀèґš !!! !!! !]"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\{640167b4-59b0-47a6-b335-a6b3c0695aea}]
@="Portable Media Devices"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\AudioEndpointBuilder]
@="Service"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\Audiosrv]
@="Service"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HdAudAddService]
@="Service"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\HDAudBus]
@="Service"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\drmkaud]
@="Driver"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Control\SafeBoot\Minimal\MMCSS]
@="Service"


**

once you have done all this then just press enter on the file that you have
made & go through the windows that come up
then you will have sound in safe mode

it works great
Hope it helps


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode


Not likely.  Eric Damery has insisted for years that it is not possible for 
JAWS to be modified to provide speech in safe mode.  My understanding is 
that Window Eyes provides speech in safe mode only because of a registry 
hack.  Of course, hacking the registry, especially for the technically 
uninitiated could be very risky.  Besides, Window Eyes is no longer being 
supported, so unless you already have it installed on your computer, you may 
not be able to download it any longer.  There is another open source, free 
screen reader that shall remain nameless that allegedly provides speech in 
safe mode, but nobody has ever produced a podcast to demonstrate how this is 
accomplished.


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 11:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Hopefuly, the folks at Freedom Scientific will provide this before 
Window-Eyes quits working.


-Original Message-
From: net bat66
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

no, but window eyes can if you have a realtec on board sound card if you 
have it.


-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:11 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Can JAWS be run in safe mode in Windows 7?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

[Gerald Levy]

Not likely.  Eric Damery has insisted for years that it is not possible for 
JAWS to be modified to provide speech in safe mode.  My understanding is 
that Window Eyes provides speech in safe mode only because of a registry 
hack.  Of course, hacking the registry, especially for the technically 
uninitiated could be very risky.  Besides, Window Eyes is no longer being 
supported, so unless you already have it installed on your computer, you may 
not be able to download it any longer.  There is another open source, free 
screen reader that shall remain nameless that allegedly provides speech in 
safe mode, but nobody has ever produced a podcast to demonstrate how this is 
accomplished.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 11:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Hopefuly, the folks at Freedom Scientific will provide this before
Window-Eyes quits working.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat66

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

no, but window eyes can if you have a realtec on board sound card if you
have
it.

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From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:11 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Can JAWS be run in safe mode in Windows 7?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[Gerald Levy]

Well, I made the switch from Verizon webmail to AOL Mail last Monday, and
encountered no problems.  The transition went smoothly, and I did not need
to change any POP3 settings to get WLM 2012 to work with AOL Mail.  Have you
or your cousin contacted AOL customer support?  You can call them toll-free
at800-827-6364.


Gerald


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

I personally am not on Verizon, how ever my cousin is and since the change
over last week he can no longer access his email. It works here if I setup
his email account but not for him as he lives across the state from me near
Philadelphia.

He is getting an error 0x800ccc0f which defies an answer and believe me I
have looked.

Verizon stated that ultimately all the end user needed to do would be to
change their password and I did that for him along with the other stuff on
the server side of things. So just after that I checked his email here,
entered his new password when the prompt popped up and all is well here. On
his end though things are not working so well unfortunately. I figure there
are a lot of you out there using the same email service so somebody ran in
to this issue and came up with the answer. If that is so please share it
with the list. This is a rather perplexing problem as so often happens with
computers, you can do it right and it still won’t work.

He and I both are using live mail 2012 and system resources are not an issue
at all.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

My apologies Gerald as this email client is still acting up and as such your
message came across blank to me. This only happens on this list with this
computer. It might be something with Vipre or I might need to find another
mail client for this system. Either way please send this message again and I
will get it on one of my other systems.

I just subscribed two of my other email addresses so to be sure one of them
will receive messages fine until I track down the problem with this one.
Thanks in advance for replying again.

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From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over




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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

[Gerald Levy]

Well, I made the switch from Verizon webmail to AOL Mail last Monday, and 
encountered no problems.  The transition went smoothly, and I did not need 
to change any POP3 settings to get WLM 2012 to work with AOL Mail.  Have you 
or your cousin contacted AOL customer support?  You can call them toll-free 
at800-827-6364.



Gerald


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with Verizon after the recent change over

I personally am not on Verizon, how ever my cousin is and since the change
over last week he can no longer access his email. It works here if I setup
his email account but not for him as he lives across the state from me near
Philadelphia.

He is getting an error 0x800ccc0f which defies an answer and believe me I
have looked.

Verizon stated that ultimately all the end user needed to do would be to
change their password and I did that for him along with the other stuff on
the server side of things. So just after that I checked his email here,
entered his new password when the prompt popped up and all is well here. On
his end though things are not working so well unfortunately. I figure there
are a lot of you out there using the same email service so somebody ran in
to this issue and came up with the answer. If that is so please share it
with the list. This is a rather perplexing problem as so often happens with
computers, you can do it right and it still won’t work.

He and I both are using live mail 2012 and system resources are not an issue
at all.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gerald Levy]

It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the major 
components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by using it. 
For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor will provide 
details about your most recent scan and whether your database definitions 
are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the History tab will provide 
details on any detected malware threats. But if you prefer not to use the 
JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just fine with JAWS.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security Essentials?

I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
program.

Could you please explain?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials


Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available,
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Gerald Levy]

Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program available, 
although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in terms of anti-virus 
protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and Avast are now both no 
longer accessible, MSE is probably the best alternative for JAWS users.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Clary

Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please
let me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

[Gerald Levy]

Jarte uses the same classic menu structure as Wordpad, upon which it is 
based.  You just press the Alt key to launch the menus, just as you would 
with any other program.  To invoke the spell checker, just press F7.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Tim you got me excited about using the Jart word processor. But How do I get
to the menus? How do I do spell check. Your help will be much appreciated.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Boy, Jarte is a great accessible word processor!

Hi Andy,

I owe you a great and hardy "Thank you" for telling us about Jarte!  It is
just what I always wanted, a nice easy word processor that is fully
compatible with JAWS.  It was easy to download and install.  Folks will find
it to have a very familiar feel, and it is easy to explore the menus and
find all the features, everything I want, a few nice extras, but not as much
of the wild stuff the Microsoft Word program has.  It also has a nice
regular old menu system.

So for those who did not notice his post, please consider Jarte.  I can
already tell that I will use it a lot, perhaps as my default word processor.
It is certainly the solution for those who have only WordPad.

A post-installation note.  When you first launch the program for the purpose
of real work, watch for the following.  When you first go to open your file
list, the old familiar control + o key, you need to set the file type.  By
default, it is set to RTF only, meaning that when you tab to the file list,
you will see only the folders, and only those files that are in RTF format.


Instead, tab to the file type field, and Arrow down to the format you want
to see in the file list, or arrow down to the bottom, about 5 times, to the
all-format view.  Whatever format option you choose, just press enter.
Then, just do the shift tab a couple of times and there is the list of all
folders, and depending upon your file type selection discussed above, your
list of files.  If you do not do this step, you will see only the list of
folders, if any, and only RTF files, if any, in the folder.  I assume there
is a way to set the default file type, but I have not learned that much yet,
and for beginners of Jarte, it is probably best to just check the file type
box each time, or you will be greatly confused wondering where your files
and folders are!


I put in below the link to the Jarte web page that contains the description
of features.  On that same page is also the download link.  The installation
file you download is small, less than 4 mb.  Installation was completely
perfect and easy, both for accessibility and for clarity.

The link is below, just past my name.  Thanks again Andy!

Tim Ford
http://www.jarte.com/features.html


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I agree, and that's why I have Jarte.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Audiobookfan" 

Re: [JAWS-Users] gmail problem

[Gerald Levy]

Are your friend's server settings correct?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Lenny McHugh

Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:37 AM
To: JFW List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] gmail problem

A friend just switched from verizon to gmail. She can send me an email
however she can not reply. When she replies all that I get is the words
email email email. I do not know what to tell her to try and correct the
problem. I do have other friends that use gmail with no problem. Any
suggestions?


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There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Gerald Levy]

Highlight the.doc file  you wish to open and hit Enter.  You should be 
presented with a dialog that prompts you to choose a program to open the 
file.  There should be a list box that includes Jarte on the list of 
programs.  Select Jarte and hit Okay, and Jarte should open the .doc file 
for you.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Jo Luland

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 9:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document?


Mike,
After reading all of the suggestions from people on this list, I downloaded
and installed Jarte. Since nothing seems to be working for me, do I need to
assign a program to open the document? If so, how do I do that? Thanks.
Jo
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: May 22, 2017 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the old
file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not
sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will
also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed.  This program allows
newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office
versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a
totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if you have Office
installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your
needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to
create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar
with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across
this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck
I'm talking about and will be able to help me.  Thanks for any suggestions
you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Gerald Levy]

The free Jarte word processor can also open .doc files, so it is not 
necessary to use MS Word.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 4:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document?


Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the old
file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not
sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will
also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed.  This program allows
newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office
versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a
totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if you have Office
installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your
needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to
create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar
with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across
this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck
I'm talking about and will be able to help me.  Thanks for any suggestions
you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] accessible anti-virus programs

[Gerald Levy]

Microsoft Security Essentials is probably the most JAWS-accessible 
anti-virus program for Windows 7 users.  Other anti-virus programs like 
Avast and AVG may offer superior protection, but they have become so 
inaccessible to the point that they are no longer worth considering.  For 
most blind computer users, MSE should provide adequate protection as long as 
they practice safe web surfing habits.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] accessible anti-virus programs

What are accessible Anti-virus programs that work with Jaws?  I'm running
windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender

[Gerald Levy]

No, Insert-Shift-R does not work with WLM.  I remember it worked with OE on 
my old XP machine. Nor does the other method you suggested work, either


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender

Hi Gerald,

Will the keystroke, Jaws key, shift, + R, work for you?  Or, hold down the,
Alt, & tap the, 1 key, on the number row twice quickly to highlight the,
from, field, then copy the text from the, From field, & paste into the To
field.
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
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From: Gerald Levy

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 4:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender



Hi list.  Using Windows Live Mail 2012 with JAWS 16, I want to reply
privately off-list to a sender who posted a message on another email list I
belong to.  But when I highlight the message and select the Reply to Sender
option from the context menu, the “To” field is filled in with the address
of the email list rather than the address of the sender to whom I wish to
reply privately.  Short of manually entering the sender’s address into the
“To” field, is there any other way to reply privately to a sender in WLM
that works?  Thanks.

Gerald

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[JAWS-Users] Replying Privately to Sender

[Gerald Levy]

Hi list.  Using Windows Live Mail 2012 with JAWS 16, I want to reply privately 
off-list to a sender who posted a message on another email list I belong to.  
But when I highlight the message and select the Reply to Sender option from the 
context menu, the “To” field is filled in with the address of the email list 
rather than the address of the sender to whom I wish to reply privately.  Short 
of manually entering the sender’s address into the “To” field, is there any 
other way to reply privately to a sender in WLM that works?  Thanks.

Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground

[Gerald Levy]

Works for me, too, here in Manhattan.  Just keep your fingers crossed that 
it has finally been fixed permenantly.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather Underground

I haven't been using the site but just looked at it and it looked perfectly
normal. Could it be permanently repaired?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site

[Gerald Levy]

Miriam, you can access the following page to get separate  7 day forecasts 
for each borough/county in the metro NYC area, including separate forecasts 
for northern and southern Nassau County (Westbury would probably be 
considered southern Nassau, right?).  Just do a JAWS search for "nassau" and 
then create a place marker at that point for easy access, and then save this 
page on your favorites list.


http://kamala.cod.edu/ny/latest.fpus51.KOKX.html


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site

This was sent to me.

My favorite weather page for forecasts and weather conditions is:
Kamala.cod.edu
If you want to access weather for a particular state, add a slash and the
two-letter abbreviation for the state you're interested in.

He then sent me the link for New York and it works beautifully. Of course,
it's for Manhattan, 33 miles from Westbury Long Island where I live, but it
works.

Miriam
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 1:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site

Not on my computer, still broken, no forecast at all just the mostly current
stats.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John M.
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 6:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site

For anyone who has been missing a good, Jaws accessible weather site, the
braille.wunderground.com site is working again with the 10 day forecasts.

John

- Original Message -
From: "Maria Campbell" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site



www.accuweather.com

is good if somewhat busy with lots of links.  I can manage it well.
Gives



lots of information.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in
small



things, it does not exist at all.

On 4/7/2017 10:56 AM, Rose wrote:

Sometimes you can get the forecast, it is hit or miss and the
temperature



is
generally more than an hour old.  I have used the site since
somewhere in the 1990s and am upset with its performance also with it
screwy and Research It not working and the fact that I'd prefer to
see this on the computer not a phone, all very annoying and over two
weeks, nearly 3 of this nonsense.
No one to write to, tried the contact link.  Either take it down or
fix it.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Brian Zolo
Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Looking for good accessible weather site

Good afternoon, listers, Brian Zolo here in Gahanna, Ohio.  U sed to
use braille.wunderground.com but they now just give the temperature
for your area and not the forecast.  I'm looking for a good weather
site as I want



to
keep up on forecasts and also monitor severe weather.  Thanks so much!
bZ!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc

[Gerald Levy]

This is definitely on topic for this list.  To get system information for 
your computer including whether it is 32 or 64 bit, press Windows key-Pause 
and use the JAWS cursor to read the information.  The Pause key is the top 
right-most key on your keyboard above the numpad.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Justin Williams

Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] 32 or 64 bit pc

Not sure if this is appropriate for the list, but how do I see if my pc is
34 or 64 bit?

Justin

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[JAWS-Users] Toll-Free TechSupport Now Available for All VFO Products Including JAWS

[Gerald Levy]

According to its latest newsletter, VFO now offers tech support via its main 
toll-free phone number for all its hardware and software products .  This means 
that it is no longer necessary to dial a long-distance number to obtain tech 
support, as had been the case in the past:

Tech Support for all VFO™ Brands is now available through our main 800 number: 
800-444-4443. 
  a.. Press option #1 for all VFO™ Software Activation resets, including JAWS®, 
ZoomText, MAGic®, OpenBook®, Window-Eyes and WYNN™.
  a.. Press option #2 for Software and Hardware Technical Support. 
  b.. 
Gerald 

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[JAWS-Users] Weather Underground Acting Strangely

[Gerald Levy]

I turned on my computer this morning at 6:00, and the first thing I did was 
check the Weather Underground Braille page, and lo and behold, there was the 
ten day forecast for New York City.  Great, I thought.  Weather Underground is 
finally fixed.  But I just accessed it again, and this time the ten day 
forecast was missing.  Why did it disappear in the two hours since I first 
accessed the page?  This site is apparently all screwed up, and as long as the 
ten day forecast is displayed intermittently without any rhyme or reason, the 
JAWS Research It weather function will never work.

Gerald 

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[JAWS-Users] More About Verizon EmailService

[Gerald Levy]

I spoke to a Verizon customer service agent who confirmed that Verizon is in 
the process of phasing out its email service and migrating customers to AOL or 
other providers.  Not all regions are affected yet, and Verizon customers will 
receive an email notification with instructions on how to proceed when the time 
comes for them to switch .  Also, there will be a notification on the 
customer’s Verizon account page when it comes time to switch.  In the meantime, 
Verizon customers can learn more about the impending discontinuation of email 
service by bisiting the following page:

verizon.com/email


Gerald 

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[JAWS-Users] Weather Underground Still Not Working

[Gerald Levy]

I just checked the Braille pages for Weather Underground for New York City, 
Westbury, NY, Chicago, and Los Angeles, and in each case, only the current 
weather conditions and special weather statements are displayed, with no 
current day or ten day forecasts.  So for now, I am using Weather.com to get 
the then day forecast for New York City.  If you want an alternative to Weather 
Underground for ten day forecasts, just google something like “ten day forecast 
for 12345” (where 12345 is your zip code) and see what results are returned and 
use the one that is most accessible.

Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

[Gerald Levy]

Looks like you may be correct, after all.  See this article for more 
information:


http://www.columbian.com/news/2017/feb/26/verizons-4-5m-email-customers-will-be-moving-possibly-to-aol/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

According to my research there are around 4.5 million of you out there,
maybe they are staggering this deployment. Either way I do not know for sure
other than a guy contacted me last evening to tell me Verizon was going out
of the email business.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service


This is news to me.  I am a Verizon DSL customer and have not received any
notice of changes to email service.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

I am getting questions from folks on Verizon about them changing something
or doing away with their email servicing for private customers. I am not on
that system so I have no personal information on this matter. If anybody out
there does please let me know what if anything is going to change along with
what the average person needs to do in order to continue receiving email.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

[Gerald Levy]

Whoa!!  Verizon never makes unsolicited calls to their customers, as far as 
I know.  I have been a customer of Verizon and its various predecessors for 
all of my 67 years and have never received an unsolicited call from them.  . 
Are you sure the call you received wasn't from a scammer?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

According to my research there are around 4.5 million of you out there,
maybe they are staggering this deployment. Either way I do not know for sure
other than a guy contacted me last evening to tell me Verizon was going out
of the email business.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service


This is news to me.  I am a Verizon DSL customer and have not received any
notice of changes to email service.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

I am getting questions from folks on Verizon about them changing something
or doing away with their email servicing for private customers. I am not on
that system so I have no personal information on this matter. If anybody out
there does please let me know what if anything is going to change along with
what the average person needs to do in order to continue receiving email.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

[Gerald Levy]

That's interesting.  I just visited the Weather Wunderground page but only 
got current weather conditions for New York City with no ten day forecast. 
You live in the New York metro area, right?  So how come you get the ten day 
forecast and I don't?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Today the Weather Wonderground page worked fine for me except for the date
at the top. But that has been wrong for about two years.

Miriam

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Behalf Of Vicki
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 2:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

I had no problem last night with the Braille version of the website, but
today, when a storm watch was posted, it only gave today's weather and the
alert. Does the alert mess up the page? I have never used this page before,
so I'm not sure.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: "Miriam Vieni" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather



If this Jaws feature is using Weather Wonderground, fixing Research It
won't
work because there's something drastically wrong with Weather
Wonderground.
For the past two days, it's only given today's weather and today, it gave
the wrong date for today.  What we need is a new and improved weather
website.

Miriam

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon S
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Cool I really like this feature. My only problem with it is in the list of
daily forecasts it doesn't give you the expected high for the current day
or
expected low for the current night. I'm sure it used to have this
information but I can't remember when it disappeared.

From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of mi...@orbitelcom.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Eric Damry answered a note I had sent him today with news that this
feature
will be fixed in the next update out in a few weeks.

-Original Message-
From: Rose
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Today no forecast!  Are blind people supposed to never know what to expect
because we don't get out?  Just annoyed.


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Behalf Of Rose
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Weather

Is FS aware that the weather in Research It is not working?



Anyway to contact Weather wonderground aside from the webpage?  I have
only
today's forecast and a bunch of stuff about fire warning that does not
really apply to my area.



Yesterday I managed to get a full forecast but today only today's.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

[Gerald Levy]

This is news to me.  I am a Verizon DSL customer and have not received any 
notice of changes to email service.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 12:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding Verizon email service

I am getting questions from folks on Verizon about them changing something 
or doing away with their email servicing for private customers. I am not on 
that system so I have no personal information on this matter. If anybody out 
there does please let me know what if anything is going to change along with 
what the average person needs to do in order to continue receiving email.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & YouTube

[Gerald Levy]

Scroll down the list of Youtube results, and when you come to a video you 
want to play, press Shift-Enter to start playing it in another Window.  When 
you are finished playing it, press Control-F4 to close the Window and return 
to where you left off in the list of Youtube results.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 2:53 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS & YouTube

Hi All,

Running Windows 7, IE11, & jaws 16.  On YouTube they have many tutorials on
how to install & use WinRar, link is below.  After I click on a link, &
start playing a video from the list, how do I close just that video, so I
can go down the list, & click on a different video without closing the
webpage?

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=WinRar+Tutorial

All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

[Gerald Levy]

Yes, you can safely update Flash Player from this site as long as you don't 
check any check boxes that might install Google Chrome or other unwanted 
software.  But first, go to the Flash Player option on the Control Panel, 
tab to the Update tab and scroll up from the bottom of the page using the 
JAWS cursor to see whether the latest version has already been installed 
automatically for IE and Firefox, if you are using it.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: anna vimini

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 3:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

Hi Gerald my adobe flash player is usually updated by windows update can
I still update my flash player from the web site you have listed below
without messing things up

what I mean is if I use the web site to update my flash player will
windows update still be able to do the update next time  the flash
player needs to be updated because for some reason windows update did
not update my flash player this month and it usually does every month.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

[Gerald Levy]

The most current version of Adobe Flash Player is 24.0.0.221, which you can 
obtain from the following web site. Be sure to uncheck any boxes that may be 
checked by default to prevent the installation of unwanted software:


https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: anna vimini

Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adobe flash player

Hi all ,

how can I check if my adobe flash player is up to date?

I have  adobe flash player version

2400194

I am using windows 8.1

Thanks in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] weather doesn't seem to be working under research it.

[Gerald Levy]

The Weather function in Research It works just fine here in New York City.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 1:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] weather doesn't seem to be working under research 
it.


That happened a few weeks ago as well.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

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Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 2/2/2017 11:52 AM, jim rawls wrote:

Maria I just figured out why weather isn't working. They use weather
underground and it seems to be down. Jim

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Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 9:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] weather doesn't seem to be working under 
research

it.

My weather in ResearchIt is not working either at this time.



Maria Campbell
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Without them, humanity cannot survive.
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On 2/2/2017 11:30 AM, jim rawls wrote:
Does anyone else have his problem/? I am using jaws 18, on a W10 
computer.

Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] insert spacebar kays

[Gerald Levy]

For a complete list of JAWS layered commands that use Insert-Space bar, 
press Insert-Space bar, followed by question mark.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Becky Buckner

Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 12:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] insert spacebar kays

Hello.
There are insert plus spacebar commands such as the Research It command. 
Where can I find the other commands that go with this insert plus spacebar? 
Thanks for your help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Most Accessible Map/Driving Directions website

[Gerald Levy]

Check out Bing.com travel directions, which is JAWS accessible and provides 
travel directions by car, public transit and walking.  Just click on the 
directions button and enter the starting and ending destinations:


https://www.bing.com/mapspreview


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Most Accessible Map/Driving Directions website

To All:

Can anyone tell me the most accessible website for getting driving 
directions? I know that there is GoogleMaps, and MapQuest. Thanks for any 
information in advance.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] email registration recapcha

[Gerald Levy]

There are three programs for solving image captchas that work with JAWS. 
The most popular is a free add-on called Webvisum that works with Firefox 
and uses a proprietary algorithm for solving captchas.  Once you install the 
Webvisum add-on, you press Alt-Control-numrow 6 on the page that contains 
the image captcha.  Webvisum then solves it and returns the result on your 
clipboard ready to be pasted into the appropriate edit field.  Another image 
solving program is called Rumola, which costs 99 cents a year.  It works 
with both Firefox and IE, and uses sighted human operators to solve 
captchas.  The third program is called Captcha Be Gone, which, like Rumola, 
uses human operators to solve captchas and works with Firefox and IE, and 
now Google Chrome as well.  But it costs $33 a year, which is a steep price 
to pay if you only need to solve captchas on an infrequent basis.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom

Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2017 8:08 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email registration recapcha

I’m sure this has been asked before, but how do I find out what is in the 
recapcha box with jaws 17?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tutorial for WLM12

[Gerald Levy]

Check out this excellent guide to using WLM with JAWS:

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 3:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tutorial for WLM12

Is there such a thing?

I'm using JAWS 17 on a Windows 10 laptop.

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes 3.0 & Jaws

[Gerald Levy]

I'm still using MB 1.75 myself, which continues to work well.  But Mike, 
since you are one of the most knowledgeable and helpful members of this 
list, why don't you try MB 3.0 yourself and report your experience for the 
benefit of the rest of us?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 8:11 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes 3.0 & Jaws

Howdy All,

Has anyone tried the new Malware Bytes 3.0 with Jaws yet?  Just wondering if
MWB will be accessible, or if they're going backwards with screenreader
accessibility again.  You can read about & download it here:

https://blog.malwarebytes.com/malwarebytes-news/2016/12/announcing-malwarebytes-3-0-a-next-generation-antivirus-replacement/

Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

[Gerald Levy]

You could copy and paste the email message you want to save into Notepad, 
and then save it as a .txt file in My Documents.


Gerald



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From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2016 1:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Folders from WLM

Good Morning Folks.
Can anyone tell me if there is a way to save emails from WLM to my 
documents? Thanks.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE

[Gerald Levy]

Will this technique also work for transferring a list of RSS feeds in IE 
from one computer to another?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 4:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE

Hi Mike, yes, you can copy the whole folder or Copying just the contents
only from one computer to another saves you from the dialog, saying that
folder already exist, do you want to copy and replace? This is just a
personal preferemce on which way you wish to do it. No wrong way. As long as
it works in the end. Smiles...


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Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 2:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE

Hi James,

I'm not debating, but just curious.  Why can't you just highlight the
Favorites folder, & copy it rather than copying just the contents of it?
Wouldn't the default Favorites folder be the same on each Windows 10 system?

Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE


Hi Bill, Yes, just go in to the favorites folder. Press Control+a, to select
all, control+c, to copy. Open the flash drive, control+v, to paste, the
contents of the favorites folder on to the flash drive. Plug-in the flash
drive in to your new computer, control+a, to select all, control+c, to copy,
go to the favorites folder on your new computer. Open the favorites folder,
control+v, to paste the contents of the favorites folder on to your new
computer. Now when you open IE, when you do a ALT+a, to open favorites, you
will see all your IE favorites. I hope this helps...



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Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE

Hi Mike,
sorry about that, I'm speaking about windows 10 here, and while I've found
the folder for favorites using the previous message, I'm not completely sure
if I simply just go in to the folder and highlight all and copy what's
there, and then just put that in the other folder on the laptop computer?
thanks,
bill

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Re: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE

[Gerald Levy]

Maybe I'm wrong, but I have always been under the impression that the only 
way to transfer favorites from one computer to another is to use the 
Import/Export option on the IE File menu.  You use the export option to save 
the favorites list to a file which you copy to an external hard drive or 
flash drive.  You then use the import option on the new computer to import 
the favorites file saved on the external drive.  Or am I missing something?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: James

Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2016 12:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE

Hi Bill, Yes, just go in to the favorites folder. Press Control+a, to select
all, control+c, to copy. Open the flash drive, control+v, to paste, the
contents of the favorites folder on to the flash drive. Plug-in the flash
drive in to your new computer, control+a, to select all, control+c, to copy,
go to the favorites folder on your new computer. Open the favorites folder,
control+v, to paste the contents of the favorites folder on to your new
computer. Now when you open IE, when you do a ALT+a, to open favorites, you
will see all your IE favorites. I hope this helps...



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] speaking of IE

Hi Mike,
sorry about that, I'm speaking about windows 10 here, and while I've found
the folder for favorites using the previous message, I'm not completely sure
if I simply just go in to the folder and highlight all and copy what's
there, and then just put that in the other folder on the laptop computer?
thanks,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

[Gerald Levy]

The whole purpose of these captcha solving services is to automatically 
solve image captchas without sighted help of any kind.  Rumola works with IE 
and costs 99 cents for 100 credits, which are good for a year.  You 
basically install Rumola on the IE Favorites Bar, and whenever you encounter 
a web page that contains an image captcha, you launch Rumola from the 
favorites bar, and it will solve the captcha and place the result in the 
correct edit field. Each time you solve a captcha, one credit will be 
deducted from your account.  I have not tried Captcha Be Gone, and so cannot 
vouch for its effectiveness.For more information about Rumola:


http://skipinput.com/

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Thanks Gerald.  Sounds like the last two that you mentioned would be rather
useless for persons such as myself, who have no useable vision at all. Are
there any that would work for me, using IE?

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


Yes, you are exactly correct.  Normally, you need sighted assistance to
solve image captchas, but services like Captcha Be Gone, Rumola and Webvisum
attempt to solve them for you without the need for sighted help.  They work
very well most of the time, but once in a while, they may encounter a
captcha that they cannot solve.  Because it is free, Webvisum is the most
popular of these captcha-solving services.  But it only works with Firefox.
When using Firefox with Webvisum, and you encounter a web page that contains
an image captcha, you press the keystroke Alt-Control-numrow 6 to submit the
captcha to Webvisum for decoding.  Using some kind of proprietary algorithm,
Webvisum solves the captcha and places the result on your clipboard, ready
to be pasted into the appropriate edit field.  It is quick and convenient,
and works about 90 percent of the time.  Captcha Be Gone and Rumola rely on
sighted human operators to solve image captchas, and so their success rate
tends to be higher.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those annoying
symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the authenticity in a
mail message on a website? Most of them are not accessible, from my
experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

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Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM

Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

[Gerald Levy]

Yes, you are exactly correct.  Normally, you need sighted assistance to 
solve image captchas, but services like Captcha Be Gone, Rumola and Webvisum 
attempt to solve them for you without the need for sighted help.  They work 
very well most of the time, but once in a while, they may encounter a 
captcha that they cannot solve.  Because it is free, Webvisum is the most 
popular of these captcha-solving services.  But it only works with Firefox. 
When using Firefox with Webvisum, and you encounter a web page that contains 
an image captcha, you press the keystroke Alt-Control-numrow 6 to submit the 
captcha to Webvisum for decoding.  Using some kind of proprietary algorithm, 
Webvisum solves the captcha and places the result on your clipboard, ready 
to be pasted into the appropriate edit field.  It is quick and convenient, 
and works about 90 percent of the time.  Captcha Be Gone and Rumola rely on 
sighted human operators to solve image captchas, and so their success rate 
tends to be higher.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those annoying
symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the authenticity in a
mail message on a website? Most of them are not accessible, from my
experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016

Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

[Gerald Levy]

One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar 
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and 
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum, 
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people 
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated. 
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?


Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Gerald Levy]

No, there were no updates this month for IE 11.

   Gerald 




-Original Message- 
From: anna vimini 
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 9:41 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 


Hi Gerald,

do you know if there was an updater for internet explorer 11 this month?

because when I checked for updates this month there was none for 
internet explorer 11 there was only updates for the adobe flash player 
and the molishous removal tool and the November monthly quality roll up.


I am using windows 8.1

thanks in advance

Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Why don't you stop giving out false information?  You don't know what 
you're talking about.  MS is still supporting IE 11, which, by the way, 
remains the
leading browser in terms of market share, through January 2020, when 
support for Windows 7 ends.  MS will continue to provide security 
updates for IE 11

as needed, and has not dropped support, as you claim.

Gerald

-Original Message- From: Dialup@56k
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:51 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Hello Miriam
I'm not saying it's been 'dropped', rather it is no longer supported
which at the moment probably means IE 11 still works most of the time,
but in the very near future, my opinion is that it will become less
stable across the internet as web page devs stop maintaining code
specifically designed to account for IE idiosyncrasies.
Glen

***

On 10-Nov-2016 1:45 pm, Miriam Vieni wrote:
block quote
Up until last week, I was using IE10 and various websites were scolding me
for doing so. I'm using IE11 and now all of the websites have stopped
scolding me so I don't think that IE11 has been dropped by Microsoft yet.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [
mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:07 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

microsoft retired IE 11 and is going with it's new browser Edge!

-Original Message-
From: anna vimini
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 4:36 PM
To:
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

How come all of a sudden their are no updates in windows update for 
internet

explorer 11?

the last update I got was:

version 11037

Kb3,197,655

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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Gerald Levy]

Why don't you stop giving out false information?  You don't know what you're 
talking about.  MS is still supporting IE 11, which, by the way, remains the 
leading browser in terms of market share, through January 2020, when support 
for Windows 7 ends.  MS will continue to provide security updates for IE 11 
as needed, and has not dropped support, as you claim.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dialup@56k

Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Hello Miriam
I'm not saying it's been 'dropped', rather it is no longer supported
which at the moment probably means IE 11 still works most of the time,
but in the very near future, my opinion is that it will become less
stable across the internet as web page devs stop maintaining code
specifically designed to account for IE idiosyncrasies.
Glen

***

On 10-Nov-2016 1:45 pm, Miriam Vieni wrote:

Up until last week, I was using IE10 and various websites were scolding me
for doing so. I'm using IE11 and now all of the websites have stopped
scolding me so I don't think that IE11 has been dropped by Microsoft yet.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

microsoft retired IE 11 and is going with it's new browser Edge!

-Original Message-
From: anna vimini
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2016 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

How come all of a sudden their are no updates in windows update for 
internet

explorer 11?

the last update I got was:

version 11037

Kb3,197,655

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

[Gerald Levy]

Tom, this is definitely not off-topic.  Using Firefox 47, I was able to 
access this web site without any difficulty.  A few members of other lists 
have reported web accessibility problems with Firefox 48 an 49, so perhaps 
this is the reason you are getting an error message.  I suggest installing 
the portable version of Firefox 47 and see whether you can access this site 
with it.  Note that you can have both the full and the portable versions of 
Firefox installed on the same computer.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 9:03 AM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FW: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49

Hello.



I don't mean to be a pain by re-posting this, but could really use some
input on resolving the issue described below.



Wonder if anyone else has seen it?



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





From: Tom Behler [mailto:tombeh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 9:36 PM
To: 'Jaws users list' 
Subject: Web Site Access Issue With Firefox 49



Hello, everyone.



I hope this is not considered off topic, but I'm not sure if the following
issue is related to Firefox or Jaws.



Basically, I'm having trouble accessing a web site containing tutorials for
the iPhone.



The web site is:



www.voiceover-easy.net 



When I try to access the web site via Firefox (version 49.0.1), I get the
error message below.  I don't get this message when trying to access the web
site with Internet Explorer 11.



I'm wondering if this is a Jaws of Firefox issue, and how to correct the
problem?





Here's the error message I get when using Firefox:





Input string was not in a correct format.



Server Error in '/' Application.






Input string was not in a correct format.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the
current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information
about

the error and where it originated in the code.



Exception Details: System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct
format.



Source Error:



An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web
request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can

be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:





[FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format.]

  Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ParseDouble(String
Value, NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +213

  Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +63



[InvalidCastException: Conversion from string "iOS " to type 'Double' is not
valid.]

  Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Conversions.ToDouble(String Value,
NumberFormatInfo NumberFormat) +226

  Microsoft.VisualBasic.CompilerServices.Operators.AddObject(Object Left,
Object Right) +478

  VoE.iOS_selector.ddlIOSVersion_PreRender(Object sender, EventArgs e) in
U:\VoE\VoE\WebControls\iOS_selector.ascx.vb:11

  System.Web.UI.Control.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +9776194

  System.Web.UI.WebControls.ListControl.OnPreRender(EventArgs e) +32

  System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +88

  System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

  System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

  System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

  System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

  System.Web.UI.Control.PreRenderRecursiveInternal() +160

  System.Web.UI.Page.ProcessRequestMain(Boolean
includeStagesBeforeAsyncPoint, Boolean includeStagesAfterAsyncPoint) +4775








Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:4.0.30319; ASP.NET
Version:4.6.1069.1



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Any Tips for Using Windows Live Mail with JAWS v17?

[Gerald Levy]

Check out this guide to using Windows Live Mail with JAWS:

http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Kenny

Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 5:14 PM
To: JAWS Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Any Tips for Using Windows Live Mail with JAWS v17?

Hello,

Even though I do like how well JAWS v17 works with the default Mail app for 
Windows 10, I still gave the Windows Live Mail application a try. It seems 
to work even better with JAWS, and offers a whole lot more bells and 
whistles (News reader, Podcast and RSS feeds etc.).


Are there any FS (Or user) tutorials out there giving tips on how to 
interact with WLM using JAWS? Maybe a list of all available keyboard 
shortcuts.


One of the things I did like with the default mail app is that it gave you 
the number of replies for a particular thread in the subject line. WLM doesn’t 
seem to do that. Is there a way of enabling this?


Also does WLM offer a message view pain. Meaning as you arrow through the 
list of message subjects, a portion of the associated message body will be 
shown in a view window pain. If WLM does offer such a feature, how do I turn 
it on.


I’m very surprised that MS stop development on WLM for it seems to be much 
more advanced then the new Mail app they’ve replaced it with.


Thanks for any help.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] webvism

[Gerald Levy]

You can download and install a newly revived and signed version of Webvisum 
from the following site, which also includes installation instructions:



http://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=15142


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: leonard morris

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:49 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] webvism

I have Firefox Version 47.0.1. How can I get
and install WebVisum for captcha using this version?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Printers and Openbook

[Gerald Levy]

Buying an accessible multifunction printer/scanner is problematic these days 
because many of them have LCD displays with menus that require sighted help 
to navigate or else have graphical onscreen menus that are not accessible 
with JAWS.  And models change so frequently that a model that was previously 
accessible just a year or so ago may have been replaced by a similar model 
that is no longer accessible.  Maybe someone on this list who has purchased 
a multifunction printer/scanner recently can provide the brand and model 
number and describe how accessible it is without sighted help.  As a general 
rule, single-purpose printers and scanners are more likely to be accessible 
without sighted help than multifunction models because they are less 
complicated.  am in the market myself for a new printer but prefer a single 
purpose model because my Epson Perfection 4490 scanner still works fine with 
Open Book, and so I have no reason to replace it.


Gerald




-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 12:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Printers and Openbook

Hello-

My multi-function printer/scanner has died and FS no longer keeps a current
list of printer/scanners that are twain compatible and will work with
Openbook and JAWS.  If you have recently purchased a printer/scanner that
works with Openbook 8 or higher can you please let me know what you are
using?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

[Gerald Levy]

The only other suggestion I can offer is to use Startpage.com as your search 
engine.  It will give you the same search results as Google without all of 
the other garbage:


https://www.startpage.com/

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: korbamukesh

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 7:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

yes, i have done it exactly. it works only for that session and once i
reopen the browser and go to google.com website, again this instant
feature appears.
jaws even reads never show instant results checked.
any further solution would be welcomed.
thanks,

On 9/10/16, Gerald Levy <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> wrote:


On the search settings page, be sure to hit the space bar on the radio
button labeled, "never show instant results" and then activate the okay
button to save your settings.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: korbamukesh
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

hello,
when i visited this URL and clicked on search settings under settings
menu, there i could already see that the required  option never show
instant was selected. but when i open the browser and typed the
address
www.google.com
the instant results are again displayed.
so would like to know the permanent solution as these settings are
discarded once i reopen the browser.
thanks,

On 9/10/16, Gerald Levy <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> wrote:


You can permenantly suppress Google instant results by using the
following
version of Google and selecting the radio button on the search settings
page

to never show instant results:

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: korbamukesh
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

Hello,
This is the query related to the google search. After visiting the
website
www.google.com
I tried inputting the keyword in search edit box and noticed that
while typing the keywords, some suggestions are appearing below my
edit box which suppose to be the geature of google instant. So I
clicked on the settings menu and after expanding this menu, Iclicked
on the search settings and under the search settings, I selected
thethird radio button i.e. never show the google instant and saved the
changes. Still this google instant is not disappearing from my google
search page. So does anyone knows the permanent solution to get rid
out  for this solution?
Thanks,
mukesh

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

[Gerald Levy]

On the search settings page, be sure to hit the space bar on the radio 
button labeled, "never show instant results" and then activate the okay 
button to save your settings.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: korbamukesh

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 6:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

hello,
when i visited this URL and clicked on search settings under settings
menu, there i could already see that the required  option never show
instant was selected. but when i open the browser and typed the
address
www.google.com
the instant results are again displayed.
so would like to know the permanent solution as these settings are
discarded once i reopen the browser.
thanks,

On 9/10/16, Gerald Levy <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> wrote:


You can permenantly suppress Google instant results by using the following
version of Google and selecting the radio button on the search settings 
page


to never show instant results:

https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: korbamukesh
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

Hello,
This is the query related to the google search. After visiting the website
www.google.com
I tried inputting the keyword in search edit box and noticed that
while typing the keywords, some suggestions are appearing below my
edit box which suppose to be the geature of google instant. So I
clicked on the settings menu and after expanding this menu, Iclicked
on the search settings and under the search settings, I selected
thethird radio button i.e. never show the google instant and saved the
changes. Still this google instant is not disappearing from my google
search page. So does anyone knows the permanent solution to get rid
out  for this solution?
Thanks,
mukesh

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

[Gerald Levy]

You can permenantly suppress Google instant results by using the following 
version of Google and selecting the radio button on the search settings page 
to never show instant results:


https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0=en

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: korbamukesh

Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2016 5:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding google instant

Hello,
This is the query related to the google search. After visiting the website
www.google.com
I tried inputting the keyword in search edit box and noticed that
while typing the keywords, some suggestions are appearing below my
edit box which suppose to be the geature of google instant. So I
clicked on the settings menu and after expanding this menu, Iclicked
on the search settings and under the search settings, I selected
thethird radio button i.e. never show the google instant and saved the
changes. Still this google instant is not disappearing from my google
search page. So does anyone knows the permanent solution to get rid
out  for this solution?
Thanks,
mukesh

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program

[Gerald Levy]

I don't have to try this program  myself.  It turns out that some members of 
another email list have already tried it and did not find it to be very 
accessible with JAWS.  Oh well, so much for that.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 12:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program

Why don't you try it and give us feedback?


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, hunanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 9/8/2016 10:52 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:


According to today’s Top Tech Tidbits newsletter, there is now an 
easy-to-use email program called OE Classics that can replace Outlook 
Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and even Thunderbird and works 
with all versions of Windows, including Windows 10.  Has anyone tried this 
program, and if so, how accessible is it with JAWS?


https://www.oeclassic.com/


Gerald

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[JAWS-Users] OE Classic Email Program

[Gerald Levy]

According to today’s Top Tech Tidbits newsletter, there is now an 
easy-to-use email program called OE Classics that can replace Outlook 
Express, Windows Mail, Windows Live Mail and even Thunderbird and works with 
all versions of Windows, including Windows 10.  Has anyone tried this 
program, and if so, how accessible is it with JAWS?


https://www.oeclassic.com/


Gerald 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tutorial for WLM 12

[Gerald Levy]

David Bailes has written an excellent guide to using Windows Live Mail with 
JAWS:


http://vip.chowo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/jaws/Windows-Live-Mail-2011-Guide.html

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 5:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tutorial for WLM 12

I believe someone  on this list recently wrote that they have a tutorial for 
WLM 12.  If so, how could I get a copy?


Thank you.


Email me at:

acale...@cox.net

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about installing an add-on in Firefox with JAWS 17 Latest Build

[Gerald Levy]

You are probably trying to install the “old” unsigned version of Webvisum 
which will not work with Firefox 47.  Since Firefox 45, Mozilla has blocked 
the installation of unsigned, third-party add-ons like Webvisum for security 
reasons.  The original developers of Webvisum abandoned it years ago and 
never signed it, and so it no longer works.  You must instead install the 
newly “revived” and signed version of Webvisum, which you can download from 
the following Blind Bargains page, which also contains installation 
instructions:


http://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=15142


Gerald


-Original Message- 
From: Christopher Sabine, ONH Consulting

Sent: Friday, July 15, 2016 4:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about installing an add-on in Firefox with 
JAWS 17 Latest Build


Hello folks. I'm trying to install the latest Webvisum add-on in Firefox.
When I activate the link to install the add-on in Firefox and use the Alt-A
keystroke to activate the ""allow" button, the button won't activate. I've
tried activating this button with an additional "enter" key, the Spacebar
and CTRL-Enter, but no joy. Any ideas why the button won't activate after I
use Alt-A?



Thanks Much,



Chris

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Link won't open

[Gerald Levy]

What is the address of the page you are having trouble accessing?

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Link won't open

I'm using Jaws 13 and Windows 7, 64 bit.  And I E 10. Suddenly, the link to
log into my checking account won't open. Do you think that has to do with I
E 10? If not, do you have any suggestions. I had someone sighted here the
other day. She said the link was open even though Jaws wasn't working. She
moved me to the line for my user name with the mouse, and then I was able to
continue.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange Windows 7 Issue Regarding Device Listings Under My Computer

[Gerald Levy]

When you click on Computer on your desktop, are you sure that the external 
device isn't listed under "hard drives expanded" rather than"devices with 
removeable storage"?  On my Windows 7 desktop, for some unknown reason I 
have never been able to figure out, my two portable hard drives are listed 
under hard drives rather than devices with removeable storage whenever I 
connect them to a USB port, although my flash drives are listed normally 
under devices with removeable storage.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 11:22 AM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange Windows 7 Issue Regarding Device Listings 
Under My Computer


Hello, everyone.



I have just noticed a problem on the newly-acquired Windows 7 laptop I'm
working with.



When I insert a media storage device into one of the USB ports, such as an
external hard drive, or a thumb drive, the computer gives me the sound
indicating that the device is recognized.  However, the device is not listed
as an available device under "My Computer".



The only way I can get the new device to come up under "my computer" is to
shut down and then re-boot the computer.



Is there a setting that I need to change in Windows 7 to get these external
devices to be automatically recognized and listed in the usual way?



I'm using Windows 7 and Jaws 17 here.



Dr.  Tom Behler From Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using win10 mail app!

[Gerald Levy]

This may be all well and good, but my ISP, Verizon,the largest ISP in the 
country, only supports POP3 and not INAT.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Jason White

Sent: Monday, May 09, 2016 7:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Using win10 mail app!

Gerald Levy  <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> wrote:


My understanding is that the Windows 10 mail app does not support POP3. 
Is

this correct?



I don't know, but in any case, IMAP will give you better results than POP3 
and

should be supported by any good mail server.

I'm sure Windows 10 Mail supports IMAP, as everyone does.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using win10 mail app!

[Gerald Levy]

My understanding is that the Windows 10 mail app does not support POP3.  Is 
this correct?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using win10 mail app!

Hi all,
I amusing the win10 mail app. It works pretty good. I have all of my email 
accounts imported into the mail app, and I can send, receive, reply, and 
forward messages. This is a blessing, because I am pretty much using the 
win10 mail app to do the same as I do in Windows Live Mail. Take care all.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

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[JAWS-Users] Warning!! Microsoft Has Released Another Update That Attempts to Upgrade Windows 7 and 8 Computers to Windows 10

[Gerald Levy]

According to GHacks Technology News, Microsoft is up to its old tricks again.  
They have released another Windows update patch that attempts to upgrade 
Windows 7 and 8 computers to Windows 10.  If you are still running Windows 7 or 
8 and are not ready yet for Windows 10, check out this article:

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/05/05/kb3150513-is-another-windows-10-update-patch/


Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes Accessibility

[Gerald Levy]

Okay, so you can update the database definitions and initiate a manual scan 
in MB 2.2.1 using JAWS.  But what about removing or quarantining detected 
malware?  Is it possible to do this without sighted help?


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 2:21 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes Accessibility

Just tab around through the dialogue. I was able to scan and update no
problem. I was surprised myself. It counts down as its scanning. Glad
they're working on improvements.

On 4/30/16, Gerald Levy <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> wrote:


I'm interested in the accessibility of the free version of MB 2.2.1, 
which,


I believe, does not have the capability to set automatic schedules, so the
steps you describe would not be relevant.  I'm most concerned about how 
easy


it is to initiate a manual scan and remove detected malware.

Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes Accessibility

Hi Gerald,

MWB 2.2.1 is mostly accessible.  The biggest hurdle a person will have is
trying to set automatic schedules in Settings / Automated Scheduling. 
I've

attempted to explained these, Spin Edit Boxes below.

When trying to set a schedule in the new version of MWB, they're called,
Spin Edit Box, fields.  I had my wife help me with them.  They are not
accessible with Jaws no matter what cursor you're using.  I'll try to
explain how they're layed out.
Note: When you open the add schedule option, the correct date & time are
showing, also, in all fields you up arrow for later / higher numbers & 
down

arrow for earlier / lower numbers:

In the 1st field are months, 1 thru 12, that you arrow up / down to choose
the month you want.  Up arrow for a later month, & down arrow for an
earlier
month.  The current month will be showing by default.

The 2nd field is the date field, 1 thru 31, you arrow up / down to choose
the date you want.  The current date will be showing by default.

The 3rd field is the year field, beats the hell out of me what year it
starts or ends.  Arrow up for a later year, & arrow down for an earlier
year.  Remember the current year will be showing by default.

The next field, is the hour field, the current hour will be showing by
default.

The next field, is the minute field, & the current minute will be showing.
You get to zero minutes by down arrowing.

The next field, is the seconds field, & the current second will be 
showing.

You get to zero seconds by down arrowing.

The next field, is the A M / PM field.  Depending on the time of day, the
correct option will be showing, & I have ran out of sighted help.  Sorry
about that.

All other comboboxes, are accessible with Jaws using your up / down arrow
keys.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Gerald Levy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:45 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Malware Bytes Accessibility



Somebody on another list insists that the current free version of Malware
Bytes, version 2.2.1 is reasonably accessible with JAWS, but I was under
the
impression that the only really accessible version was version 1.75, and
that screen reader accessibility would be improved in the next release,
which would probably be version 2.3.  Is anyone using Malware Bytes 2.2.1
free version successfully with JAWS?  If so, are there any special tips 
for

navigating the interface?

Gerald

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