[JAWS-Users] Soulseek and JAWS?
Hello everyone. Not exactly new to the list here, but I had been unsubscribed for a long time because my computer and JAWS version had gotten so old that there was really no point in me continuing to receive and contribute to the list. Now I've got a new PC, Windows 10 and JAWS 18, so I'm back, and with a question even. I thought I was an old hand at this stuff, but I've recently started to use the Soulseek client, and I'm having some issues, both with the programme locking up frequently and, more importantly with regard to this list, not playing nice with JAWS in unpredictable and obnoxious ways. A part of the problem, no doubt, is that as far as I know, a screen reader user still has to use the old Soulseek NS client, as the QT version, which is regularly developed and updated, uses a portable/cross-platform library that doesn't use standard Windows interface controls and so is really a non-starter with jAWS as far as I can tell. This NS client is really designed for an older version of Windows and although running it in compatibility mode (glad Microsoft still includes this feature) seems to improve things greatly, there are a number of weird things happening. 1. The programme keeps minimising itself or something, so that using the JAWS cursor, which is necessary (as far as I can tell) to use most of the programme's functionality, becomes impossible. Sometimes I am locked out of the menu bar for minutes at a time. 2. Right clicking on things seems to cause JAWS to spontaneously crash about 80% of the time. 3. The application key doesn't seem to act on the item in focus. What I mean is, if you find an item that interests you, you can get a context menu with options to "download containing folder" etc, but it pertains to a completely different item. Simulating an actual mouse click seems to have unpredictable results, although it works some of the time. 4. I can not figure out how to search for a user. My friend did this when I logged in, instantly finding me and adding me to his user list. But I cannot seem to do the same. There may be a graphical button that I need to click? So, any JAWS users, particularly (but not exclusively) those using Windows 10, also using this programme? It is pretty neat and I'd like to find a way to make it more stable. Any pointers, tips, tricks ... are greatly appreciated. Cheers and thanks. JM For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Soulseek
Hi Dave & All, Please forgive me for not responding, but I just found all these replies in the Junk folder of my IMAP account! Why, I don't have a clue! Dave I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was criticizing you, but just attempting to remind list members that there are members that need steps starting from scratdh, & I didn't see that you had posted a linkfor the person to go to. Anyways Adrian posted some beginner tips, but here some searching tips that we can all use: 20 Tips To Use Google Search Efficiently http://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/20-tips-use-google-search-efficiently.html 20 Tips To Use Google Search Efficiently Joseph Hindy Millions of people use Google search every day for a variety of reasons. Students use it for school, business people use it for research, and millions more use it for entertainment. Did you know that you may not be using Google search to its full potential? Here are 20 tips and tricks to maximize your search efficiency. 1. Use the tabs The first tip is to use the tabs in Google search. On the top of every search are a number of tabs. Usually you'll see Web, Image, News, and More. Using these tabs, you can help define what kind of search you need to do. If you need images, use the Image tab. If you are looking for a recent news article, use the News tab. It's rudimentary and most people use the tabs already. If you are not, then it's highly recommended to get associated with them. They can cut search times dramatically if utilized properly. 2. Use quotes When searching for something specific, try using quotes to minimize the guesswork for Google search. When you put your search parameters in quotes, it tells the search engine to search for the whole phrase. For instance, if you search for Puppy Dog Sweaters, the engine will search for content that contains those three words in any order. However, if you search "Puppy Dog Sweaters", it will search for that phrase exactly as you typed it. This can help locate specific information that may be buried under other content if not sorted out correctly. 3. Use a hyphen to exclude words Sometimes you may find yourself searching for a word with an ambiguous meaning. An example is Mustang. When you Google search for Mustang, you may get results for both the car made by Ford or the horse. If you want to cut one out, use the hyphen to tell the engine to ignore content with one of the other. See the example below. list of 1 items . Mustang -cars list end This tells the search engine to search for mustangs but to remove any results that have the word "car" in it. It can be wildly helpful when finding information about something without getting information about something else. 4. Use a colon to search specific sites There may be an instance where you need to Google search for articles or content on a certain website. The syntax is very simple and we'll show you below. list of 1 items . Sidney Crosby site:nhl.com list end This will search for all content about famous hockey player Sidney Crosby, but only on NHL.com. All other search results will be removed. If you need to find specific content on a particular site, this is the shortcut you can use. 5. Find a page that links to another page This Google search tip is a little obscure. Instead of searching for a specific page, you're searching for a page that links to a specific page. Think about it this way. If you want to see who cited a New York Times article on their site, you would use this trick to find all the sites that link to it. The syntax is below. list of 1 items . link:nytimes.com list end That will return all pages that link to the New York Times official website. The URL on the right side can be practically anything. Be aware, though, that the more specific it is, the fewer results you'll get. We know not a lot of people will likely use this Google search trick, but it could be very useful for some. 6. Use the asterisk wildcard The asterisk wildcard is one of the most useful ones on the list. Here's how it works. When you use an asterisk in a search term on Google search, it will leave a placeholder that may be automatically filled by the search engine later. This is a brilliant way to find song lyrics if you don't know all the words. Let's look at the syntax. list of 1 items . "Come * right now * me" list end To you or me, that may look like nonsense. However, Google search will search for that phrase knowing that the asterisks can be any word. More often than not, you'll find they are lyrics to The Beatles song "Come Together" and that's what the search will tell you. 7. Find sites that are similar to other sites This is a unique one that could be used by practically everyone if they knew it existed. Let's say you have a favorite website. It can be anything. However, that website is getting a little bit boring and you want to find other websites like it. You would use this trick.
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I am glad to hear you feel comfortable in asking your questions and that you hope to improve as time goes along. This goes to the very heart of why we started this list so many years ago. There are quite a lot of such success stories on here and no doubt you will end up being included in that company. -Original Message- From: Jana Littrell Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Thank you. The more I learn, the more I realize the gaps in knowledge that shouldn't be there. I hope to someday get to the point where I will help answer the questions rather than just asking them. Your message helps people like me to feel more comfortable. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 5:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Mike, In the same spirit, how about posting steps on how to do a Google search? It really is essential that people know how to do this. Here's a suggestion: 1. Open your browser (for example, Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc.) 2. Press control-l to bring up an edit field where you type in the address of the website you want. 3. In this case, type www.google.com 4. When Google comes up, which happens quickly, press "e," the quick key for "edit field." 5. Note. Depending on your settings, JAWS may have already put you right in that edit field, as a beep will confirm. If not, once you've pressed "e" and landed on the edit field, you'll need to press the return key in order to enter text. 6. Now, type the search terms for the information you want. Here, you might just type "soulseek," or you could phrase it as a question, such as "what is soulseek?" (No need to use uppercase.) 7. Press enter. 8. A list of results, typically ten, will appear. You can navigate from result to result with the letter "h" for heading. When you find the result that seems to give you what you want, press enter on the link to go to that page. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:15 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Hi dave, I realize a lot of info can be found with simple searches, but what about for those that don't know how to perform the simple searches?! What if someone would like actual feedback from people using the service? I'm not trying to sound like a know it all jerk, but there are almost 700 members on this list, & I'm sure many of them are possibly new Jaws users that just haven't learned many things that it took computer idiots like myself to learn / figure out. I will tell you & everyone on this list, & David, Rick, & Bob can all vouch on what a computer dipshit I was / am! But now, after several years of tutoring by you, & so many others I've gotten confident enough to pass on computer crap y'all were so patient in teaching this computer dipshit! Anyways I guess I'm just trying to tell the new members, computer / Jaws beginners, or anyone else never to be afraid to ask a question of any nature to the list. I've said since I started learning from all of you excellent teachers that, the only stupid question, is the question that isn't asked! After all noone knows everything, & it's totally amazing how hard the simplest of tasks can be to someone that just doesn't know how, & I'm speaking from experience, & plenty of it! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Dave To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Once again, Google is your friend. Try typing soulseek in the search field. Here's a link: http://www.soulseekqt.net/news/ Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michele Thredgold" <michele.thredg...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 20:28 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Out of interest, what is Soulseek? Cheers! Michele - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo <hfia...@rcn.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:04 am Subject: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Using W10 and jaws demo 18. In the past I was able to use soulseek with W7. Now can not use it or configure soulseek. What can I do? Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: ht
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The other word is alpha commands. Justin -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 4:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Hey, another keystroke that I'd never realized! Insert+F3 is indeed very handy. Thanks for the tip. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Nate Kile" <heavens4r...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 13:13 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Letter F will take you through any forms fields as well, buttons, edit boxes and so on. Insert f3 is another helpful tool to orientate one with the elements of a webpage. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Tom, That letter E and many others are part of JAWS. There are several single letter keys to jump to various elements on a web page. I believe it's called Quick Keys, and can be enabled or disabled. Pretty sure it's enabled by default. A look at the JAWS help system will bring up a complete list of all those Quick Key Navigation assists. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 06:07 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Adrian: Here's an excellent case in point regarding the value of this list and what we can learn from each other. I never knew you could hit the E. key to get into the Google edit field in Firefox. I'm a reasonably experienced Jaws user, but never used that command up until now. So, thanks much! Tom Behler -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Mike, In the same spirit, how about posting steps on how to do a Google search? It really is essential that people know how to do this. Here's a suggestion: 1. Open your browser (for example, Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc.) 2. Press control-l to bring up an edit field where you type in the address of the website you want. 3. In this case, type www.google.com 4. When Google comes up, which happens quickly, press "e," the quick key for "edit field." 5. Note. Depending on your settings, JAWS may have already put you right in that edit field, as a beep will confirm. If not, once you've pressed "e" and landed on the edit field, you'll need to press the return key in order to enter text. 6. Now, type the search terms for the information you want. Here, you might just type "soulseek," or you could phrase it as a question, such as "what is soulseek?" (No need to use uppercase.) 7. Press enter. 8. A list of results, typically ten, will appear. You can navigate from result to result with the letter "h" for heading. When you find the result that seems to give you what you want, press enter on the link to go to that page. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:15 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Hi dave, I realize a lot of info can be found with simple searches, but what about for those that don't know how to perform the simple searches?! What if someone would like actual feedback from people using the service? I'm not trying to sound like a know it all jerk, but there are almost 700 members on this list, & I'm sure many of them are possibly new Jaws users that just haven't learned many things that it took computer idiots like myself to learn / figure out. I will tell you & everyone on this list, & David, Rick, & Bob can all vouch on what a computer dipshit I was / am! But now, after several years of tutoring by you, & so many others I've gotten confident enough to pass on computer crap y'all were so patient in teaching this computer dipshit! Anyways I guess I'm just trying to tell the new members, computer / Jaws beginners, or anyone else never to be afraid to ask a question of any nature to the list. I've said since I started learning from all of you excellent teachers that, the only stupid question, is the question that isn't asked! After all noone knows everything, & it's totally amazing how hard the simplest of tasks can be to someone that just doesn't know how, & I'm speaking from experience, & plenty of it! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from b
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Agreed, you pointed out how you got the information but also sited your source. Thank you for your contributions. -Original Message- From: Dave Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:30 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Mike, No problem. That's why I not only suggested using Google, but also took the extra step to give an actual link. I think I was being fair. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 21:14 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Hi dave, I realize a lot of info can be found with simple searches, but what about for those that don't know how to perform the simple searches?! What if someone would like actual feedback from people using the service? I'm not trying to sound like a know it all jerk, but there are almost 700 members on this list, & I'm sure many of them are possibly new Jaws users that just haven't learned many things that it took computer idiots like myself to learn / figure out. I will tell you & everyone on this list, & David, Rick, & Bob can all vouch on what a computer dipshit I was / am! But now, after several years of tutoring by you, & so many others I've gotten confident enough to pass on computer crap y'all were so patient in teaching this computer dipshit! Anyways I guess I'm just trying to tell the new members, computer / Jaws beginners, or anyone else never to be afraid to ask a question of any nature to the list. I've said since I started learning from all of you excellent teachers that, the only stupid question, is the question that isn't asked! After all noone knows everything, & it's totally amazing how hard the simplest of tasks can be to someone that just doesn't know how, & I'm speaking from experience, & plenty of it! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Dave To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Once again, Google is your friend. Try typing soulseek in the search field. Here's a link: http://www.soulseekqt.net/news/ Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michele Thredgold" <michele.thredg...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 20:28 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Out of interest, what is Soulseek? Cheers! Michele - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo <hfia...@rcn.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:04 am Subject: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Using W10 and jaws demo 18. In the past I was able to use soulseek with W7. Now can not use it or configure soulseek. What can I do? Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Remember Mike this is a family oriented list, but at the start you were a guy who needed a lot of attention. The fact is there are several success stories on here IE people who have come a long way. I count you among them and we have for the record just over 670 subscribers on here right now. Please everybody don't decide to post at once or I might just run screaming into the night. That would be an enormous amount of email. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:14 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Hi dave, I realize a lot of info can be found with simple searches, but what about for those that don't know how to perform the simple searches?! What if someone would like actual feedback from people using the service? I'm not trying to sound like a know it all jerk, but there are almost 700 members on this list, & I'm sure many of them are possibly new Jaws users that just haven't learned many things that it took computer idiots like myself to learn / figure out. I will tell you & everyone on this list, & David, Rick, & Bob can all vouch on what a computer dipshit I was / am! But now, after several years of tutoring by you, & so many others I've gotten confident enough to pass on computer crap y'all were so patient in teaching this computer dipshit! Anyways I guess I'm just trying to tell the new members, computer / Jaws beginners, or anyone else never to be afraid to ask a question of any nature to the list. I've said since I started learning from all of you excellent teachers that, the only stupid question, is the question that isn't asked! After all noone knows everything, & it's totally amazing how hard the simplest of tasks can be to someone that just doesn't know how, & I'm speaking from experience, & plenty of it! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Dave To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Once again, Google is your friend. Try typing soulseek in the search field. Here's a link: http://www.soulseekqt.net/news/ Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michele Thredgold" <michele.thredg...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 20:28 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Out of interest, what is Soulseek? Cheers! Michele - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo <hfia...@rcn.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:04 am Subject: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Using W10 and jaws demo 18. In the past I was able to use soulseek with W7. Now can not use it or configure soulseek. What can I do? Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek
Hi dave, I realize a lot of info can be found with simple searches, but what about for those that don't know how to perform the simple searches?! What if someone would like actual feedback from people using the service? I'm not trying to sound like a know it all jerk, but there are almost 700 members on this list, & I'm sure many of them are possibly new Jaws users that just haven't learned many things that it took computer idiots like myself to learn / figure out. I will tell you & everyone on this list, & David, Rick, & Bob can all vouch on what a computer dipshit I was / am! But now, after several years of tutoring by you, & so many others I've gotten confident enough to pass on computer crap y'all were so patient in teaching this computer dipshit! Anyways I guess I'm just trying to tell the new members, computer / Jaws beginners, or anyone else never to be afraid to ask a question of any nature to the list. I've said since I started learning from all of you excellent teachers that, the only stupid question, is the question that isn't asked! After all noone knows everything, & it's totally amazing how hard the simplest of tasks can be to someone that just doesn't know how, & I'm speaking from experience, & plenty of it! LOL LOL Take care. Mike Sent from my iBarstool. Early to bed, early to rise, keep my iHemorrhoids from being a surprise. - Original Message - From: Dave To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Once again, Google is your friend. Try typing soulseek in the search field. Here's a link: http://www.soulseekqt.net/news/ Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michele Thredgold" <michele.thredg...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 20:28 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Out of interest, what is Soulseek? Cheers! Michele - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo <hfia...@rcn.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:04 am Subject: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek > > > > Using W10 and jaws demo 18. In the past I was able to use soulseek with > W7. Now can not use it or configure soulseek. What can I do? > Holger Fiallo > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Once again, Google is your friend. Try typing soulseek in the search field. Here's a link: http://www.soulseekqt.net/news/ Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michele Thredgold" <michele.thredg...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 20:28 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek Out of interest, what is Soulseek? Cheers! Michele - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo <hfia...@rcn.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:04 am Subject: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek > > > > Using W10 and jaws demo 18. In the past I was able to use soulseek with > W7. Now can not use it or configure soulseek. What can I do? > Holger Fiallo > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Out of interest, what is Soulseek? Cheers! Michele - Original Message - From: Holger Fiallo <hfia...@rcn.com> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Sunday, 19 March 2017 6:04 am Subject: [JAWS-Users] Soulseek > > > > Using W10 and jaws demo 18. In the past I was able to use soulseek with W7. > Now can not use it or configure soulseek. What can I do? > Holger Fiallo > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Soulseek
Using W10 and jaws demo 18. In the past I was able to use soulseek with W7. Now can not use it or configure soulseek. What can I do? Holger Fiallo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
