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Hi Steve, It makes sense, but when you think that the antivirus program should pick something up by scanning the zip and finding an executable that could be melicious and it says nothing is concerning to me. Also, the eicar virus checker I originally posted which topped off my question from that article, it should've picked it up on saving, and that tells you that the virus checker is working as designed. On 6/6/2017 11:54, Steve wrote: Jared, Just because it doesn't pick up anything doesn't necessarily mean it is a problem. I can assure you, you can find other anti-virus programs that will pick up lots of things -- the problem is, they pick up a lot of "false positives," meaning that you're needlessly flagging things as problems that aren't. Recall a few years ago, when one of the major commercial AV programs, I can't remember which one, was disabling one of the other screen-readers because it flagged one of its components as pernicious. So, I maintain, as do others, that Windows Defender, or MSSE, is fine along with running periodic scans with an off-line program. Personally, I use Sophos Virus Removal tool. - Original Message - From: "Jared Rimer" <ja...@lists.jaredrimer.net> To: <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question Hello Steve, I want to get away from MSE because it doesn't seem to pick up anything, even if I don't download anything. Once it picked up a file as temp files and said it was something, but most of the time it says nothing. I'm on windows 7 64 bit, and was looking for something else. I've used Trend Micro's house call tool which does scanning and updating of its engine through the download, but it seems to be only doing one drive. MSE does my whole machine, but I was curious if there was something else out there besides MSE that would be more reliable. I haven't made any changes yet, someone said I aught to install it and see, but now i'm not sure. Its sad that nobody is accessible anymore, I do practice good web habits, have read up and listen to security podcasts, and I am careful, but with the threats today, something is always needed and was looking for something that would be a bit better than my experience lately with MSE. Thanks for your thoughts. On 6/4/2017 09:07, Steve wrote: Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows before Windows 10. Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to periodically run a double-check on your system along with practicing good web habits i.e. avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and opening unknown email attachments or links. I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible. You may need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if you haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use that to initiate a scan. But, at least the results are viewable and since it isn't always running, you don't need to try to configure it to play nice with certain sites or programs. That's why I prefer Windows Defender. Steve - Original Message - From: "Tom Fairhurst" <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
Jared, Just because it doesn't pick up anything doesn't necessarily mean it is a problem. I can assure you, you can find other anti-virus programs that will pick up lots of things -- the problem is, they pick up a lot of "false positives," meaning that you're needlessly flagging things as problems that aren't. Recall a few years ago, when one of the major commercial AV programs, I can't remember which one, was disabling one of the other screen-readers because it flagged one of its components as pernicious. So, I maintain, as do others, that Windows Defender, or MSSE, is fine along with running periodic scans with an off-line program. Personally, I use Sophos Virus Removal tool. - Original Message - From: "Jared Rimer" <ja...@lists.jaredrimer.net> To: <JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question Hello Steve, I want to get away from MSE because it doesn't seem to pick up anything, even if I don't download anything. Once it picked up a file as temp files and said it was something, but most of the time it says nothing. I'm on windows 7 64 bit, and was looking for something else. I've used Trend Micro's house call tool which does scanning and updating of its engine through the download, but it seems to be only doing one drive. MSE does my whole machine, but I was curious if there was something else out there besides MSE that would be more reliable. I haven't made any changes yet, someone said I aught to install it and see, but now i'm not sure. Its sad that nobody is accessible anymore, I do practice good web habits, have read up and listen to security podcasts, and I am careful, but with the threats today, something is always needed and was looking for something that would be a bit better than my experience lately with MSE. Thanks for your thoughts. On 6/4/2017 09:07, Steve wrote: Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows before Windows 10. Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to periodically run a double-check on your system along with practicing good web habits i.e. avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and opening unknown email attachments or links. I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible. You may need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if you haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use that to initiate a scan. But, at least the results are viewable and since it isn't always running, you don't need to try to configure it to play nice with certain sites or programs. That's why I prefer Windows Defender. Steve - Original Message - From: "Tom Fairhurst" <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and wh
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
Hello Steve, I want to get away from MSE because it doesn't seem to pick up anything, even if I don't download anything. Once it picked up a file as temp files and said it was something, but most of the time it says nothing. I'm on windows 7 64 bit, and was looking for something else. I've used Trend Micro's house call tool which does scanning and updating of its engine through the download, but it seems to be only doing one drive. MSE does my whole machine, but I was curious if there was something else out there besides MSE that would be more reliable. I haven't made any changes yet, someone said I aught to install it and see, but now i'm not sure. Its sad that nobody is accessible anymore, I do practice good web habits, have read up and listen to security podcasts, and I am careful, but with the threats today, something is always needed and was looking for something that would be a bit better than my experience lately with MSE. Thanks for your thoughts. On 6/4/2017 09:07, Steve wrote: Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows before Windows 10. Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to periodically run a double-check on your system along with practicing good web habits i.e. avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and opening unknown email attachments or links. I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible. You may need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if you haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use that to initiate a scan. But, at least the results are viewable and since it isn't always running, you don't need to try to configure it to play nice with certain sites or programs. That's why I prefer Windows Defender. Steve - Original Message - From: "Tom Fairhurst" <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original messa
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Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows before Windows 10. Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to periodically run a double-check on your system along with practicing good web habits i.e. avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and opening unknown email attachments or links. I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible. You may need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if you haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use that to initiate a scan. But, at least the results are viewable and since it isn't always running, you don't need to try to configure it to play nice with certain sites or programs. That's why I prefer Windows Defender. Steve - Original Message - From: "Tom Fairhurst" <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:54 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a perso
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Me too, but I think MSE is it, and sadly, at least with 7, it doesn't seem to be doing a good job. On 6/2/2017 04:51, Dennis Long wrote: I don't know I would love to see Jaws script some anti virus programs to be accessible. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:56 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question If it doesn't, what will? I have not made any changes yet, but MSE isn't cutting it for my needs. I get a lot of files and attachments and it does not pick it up, even when I examine the files to see what they are. Some may be harmful, so need something that works. I don't expect perfect, but Thomas recommended it, so would love to hear how it works before I comit to getting MSE off and doing all of this work to get nowhere. On 6/1/2017 21:00, Dennis Long wrote: It doesn't work well from what I found. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords m _mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term = sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-i s -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous,
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Joseph, You do have a valid point today, but if it is something known, the antivirus should be able to pick it up. The fact a file sat on my machine so I could see how MSE performed with it and it never picked it up and I knew it was infected gave me the hint that it wasn't seemingly to work. I'll give it a look. On 6/2/2017 05:05, Joseph Freetech wrote: You might want to install the antivirus for yourself rather than waiting for others to do so. You can then amplify the knowledge on the list by posting whether it is accessible or not. I will add that there is absolutely no fail-proof antivirus. All it takes is you clicking on a single popup such as a supposed windows update to become infected. Antivirus nowadays is almost worthless in terms of protecting your computer as most attacks are social in nature which trick the end user into allowing files to run on your computer. I've been using MSE for about 7 years now without a single hint of infection. I've been running it on Windows7, Win8, and W10--all of my machines. Joseph the free tech guy! All are welcome to write me off list if absolutely any help is needed -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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I don't know I would love to see Jaws script some anti virus programs to be accessible. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:56 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question If it doesn't, what will? I have not made any changes yet, but MSE isn't cutting it for my needs. I get a lot of files and attachments and it does not pick it up, even when I examine the files to see what they are. Some may be harmful, so need something that works. I don't expect perfect, but Thomas recommended it, so would love to hear how it works before I comit to getting MSE off and doing all of this work to get nowhere. On 6/1/2017 21:00, Dennis Long wrote: > It doesn't work well from what I found. > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question > > I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read > anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can > read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these > would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I > too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA > did a little better, but it was not perfect. > > -Original Message- > From: Jared Rimer > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM > To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question > > OK, > > I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote > recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? > > On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: >> The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid >> version a while ago , its simple and accessible. >> That's at least 10 years or so ago. >> But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. >> But I highly recommend sophos. >> https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords >> m >> _mediu >> m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term >> = sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise >> protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in >> company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that >> they have the free version for home, so you should try them. >> >> >> regards >> Thomas N. Chan >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] >> On Behalf Of Jared Rimer >> Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM >> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question >> >> I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do >> you have a link? >> >> On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. >>> >>> In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of >>> JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I >>> can use the tab to go from option to option. >>> >>> I wish you success. >>> >>> Aran >>> >>> -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer >>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM >>> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com >>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question >>> >>> So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. >>> Part of the page says: >>> >>> The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is >>> to use the EICAR test file. >>> >>> The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European >>> Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus >>> Research Organization. >>> >>> To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into >>> a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" >>> >>> The URL to the full post is at: >>> >> https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-i >> s -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter >>> >>> for your review. When i went to send the original message intending >>> to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which >>> means it worked, but MSE never pi
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If it doesn't, what will? I have not made any changes yet, but MSE isn't cutting it for my needs. I get a lot of files and attachments and it does not pick it up, even when I examine the files to see what they are. Some may be harmful, so need something that works. I don't expect perfect, but Thomas recommended it, so would love to hear how it works before I comit to getting MSE off and doing all of this work to get nowhere. On 6/1/2017 21:00, Dennis Long wrote: It doesn't work well from what I found. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords _mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term= sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently
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I'm wondering someone said OCR screen, ins+space, o, s helped with this, but I'm sure it can be a set it and forget it especially for scanning and updating which it should do automatically. Is Panda any better then? I set up an account and logged in to get my download of Sophos. On 6/1/2017 20:54, Tom Fairhurst wrote: I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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It doesn't work well from what I found. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: > The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid > version a while ago , its simple and accessible. > That's at least 10 years or so ago. > But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. > But I highly recommend sophos. > https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords > _mediu > m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term= > sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise > protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in > company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that > they have the free version for home, so you should try them. > > > regards > Thomas N. Chan > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Jared Rimer > Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM > To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question > > I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do > you have a link? > > On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. >> >> In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of >> JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I >> can use the tab to go from option to option. >> >> I wish you success. >> >> Aran >> >> -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer >> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM >> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question >> >> So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part >> of the page says: >> >> The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is >> to use the EICAR test file. >> >> The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European >> Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus >> Research Organization. >> >> To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into >> a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" >> >> The URL to the full post is at: >> > https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is > -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter >> >> for your review. When i went to send the original message intending >> to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which >> means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written >> below. A bit concerning. >> >> >> >> I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. >> >> I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it >> would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my >> drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that >> I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular >> file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, >> what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? >> >> I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick >> anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got >> flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i >> knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is >> working and picks them up. >> > -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it was not perfect. -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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OK, I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended to me. Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws? On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote: The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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I would be interested to know how accessible both programs are from other users. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Thomas N. Chan Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 12:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: > > Hello, > > I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. > > In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of > JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I > can use the tab to go from option to option. > > I wish you success. > > Aran > > -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM > To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question > > So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part > of the page says: > > The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is > to use the EICAR test file. > > The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European > Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus > Research Organization. > > To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a > blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" > > The URL to the full post is at: > https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter > > for your review. When i went to send the original message intending > to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which > means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written > below. A bit concerning. > > > > I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. > > I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it > would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my > drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that > I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular > file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, > what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? > > I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick > anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got > flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i > knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is > working and picks them up. > -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible. That's at least 10 years or so ago. But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven. But I highly recommend sophos. https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for home, so you should try them. regards Thomas N. Chan -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: > > Hello, > > I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. > > In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS > and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use > the tab to go from option to option. > > I wish you success. > > Aran > > -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM > To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question > > So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of > the page says: > > The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to > use the EICAR test file. > > The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European > Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and > Computer Antivirus Research Organization. > > To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a > blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" > > The URL to the full post is at: > https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter > > for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to > keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it > worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit > concerning. > > > > I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. > > I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it > would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my > drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I > found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file > I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what > antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? > > I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick > anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got > flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i > knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is > working and picks them up. > -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it. Do you have a link? On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote: Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-working/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
Hello, I am using Panda, the free version of Panda. In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use the tab to go from option to option. I wish you success. Aran -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-working/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
How accessible is it? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question I use vipre antivirus it's not free but it's very good. never had a problem! -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 7:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
I've never heard of them, interesting name. What about AVG free? On 5/30/2017 04:47, Kevin wrote: I use vipre antivirus it's not free but it's very good. never had a problem! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
I use vipre antivirus it's not free but it's very good. never had a problem! -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 7:38 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-working/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] antivirus question
So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus. Part of the page says: The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to use the EICAR test file. The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus Research Organization. To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:" The URL to the full post is at: https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-working/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter for your review. When i went to send the original message intending to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below. A bit concerning. I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it. I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it would pick up the file. I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my drives. I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file I had up. MSE never picked it up. Now that I'm a Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws? I've got Windows 7, 64 bit. I don't think MSE is doing the trick anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got flagged for review. It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is working and picks them up. -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal coorespondence. E-mail through jaredrimer.net for faster response times For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
