Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-12 Thread Michele Thredgold
I'd like to know that too, since I'm thinking of finding one.

Cheers!

Michele

- Original Message -
From: Judy Jones  
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Date: Friday, 10 March 2017 11:44 am
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also uses
> Jaws?
> 
>  
> 
> Judy
> 
>  
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-11 Thread Judy Jones
Thanks so much for the resources!

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 2:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

There is a model for the 14 and one for the 40 Focus display. Both are
expected in the United States by the end of the second Quarter.
Another great source is the FSCast by Jonathan Mosen and Ron Miller on the
El Braille that was recently broadcast.
I do not work for VFO so I can't speak to trade in deals. However, they have
stated on several podcasts that you do not need to purchase Jaws or another
focus display if you already have them. You will only need to purchase the
El Braille itself. As for the display, there is an HDMI port which you would
use if you wish to have a video display connected.
I would love to play with one while it is connected to my 60 inch HDTV,
laughs!
Hope that helps,
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Okay, very interesting.  I checked out the site, thank you.

The salesman I spoke with did not tell me that the display comes as part of
the ElBraille, thus, my questions about the cost, which leads to another
question.

If one already has the Focus 14 blue, can you purchase just the docking
station by itself?

Also, if one has the focus 40, can it be traded in for the ElBraille?

I also was not understanding that the ElBraille was for the Focus 14 only,
and I don't think my sales person did either.  I realize the device is that
new.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction for information.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:j

Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-11 Thread Merv Keck
That is a really good question and I really wish I knew. I just sent a
message asking someone who is associated with the development of the El
Braille. I thought he was on this list. I will ask him to join if he is not.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Thank you very much for your help and information.  I will check out the
site.

Another consideration is if this device will update along with the Microsoft
updates, and the gentleman I spoke with did not have that information
either.

>From what I understand, the Polaris' onboard apps will upgrade with firmware
upgrades, but that if you choose to download that same app from the play
store, it will update when Google does its updates.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list

Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-11 Thread Merv Keck
There is a model for the 14 and one for the 40 Focus display. Both are
expected in the United States by the end of the second Quarter.
Another great source is the FSCast by Jonathan Mosen and Ron Miller on the
El Braille that was recently broadcast.
I do not work for VFO so I can't speak to trade in deals. However, they have
stated on several podcasts that you do not need to purchase Jaws or another
focus display if you already have them. You will only need to purchase the
El Braille itself. As for the display, there is an HDMI port which you would
use if you wish to have a video display connected.
I would love to play with one while it is connected to my 60 inch HDTV,
laughs!
Hope that helps,
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Okay, very interesting.  I checked out the site, thank you.

The salesman I spoke with did not tell me that the display comes as part of
the ElBraille, thus, my questions about the cost, which leads to another
question.

If one already has the Focus 14 blue, can you purchase just the docking
station by itself?

Also, if one has the focus 40, can it be traded in for the ElBraille?

I also was not understanding that the ElBraille was for the Focus 14 only,
and I don't think my sales person did either.  I realize the device is that
new.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction for information.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
&g

Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-11 Thread Judy Jones
Okay, very interesting.  I checked out the site, thank you.

The salesman I spoke with did not tell me that the display comes as part of
the ElBraille, thus, my questions about the cost, which leads to another
question.

If one already has the Focus 14 blue, can you purchase just the docking
station by itself?

Also, if one has the focus 40, can it be traded in for the ElBraille?

I also was not understanding that the ElBraille was for the Focus 14 only,
and I don't think my sales person did either.  I realize the device is that
new.

Thanks for steering me in the right direction for information.

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked quest

Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-11 Thread Judy Jones
Thank you very much for your help and information.  I will check out the
site.

Another consideration is if this device will update along with the Microsoft
updates, and the gentleman I spoke with did not have that information
either.

>From what I understand, the Polaris' onboard apps will upgrade with firmware
upgrades, but that if you choose to download that same app from the play
store, it will update when Google does its updates.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-11 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,
Have you checked out this site?
http://elbraille.com

I think with any device, it depends on what you are going to use it with
that ultimately justifies which one would be best. I just had a similar
conversation with someone when ask to consult on the decision to purchase a
Focus display and an iPad  or wait until one of the L Braille devices comes
out.
After discussing what they did on a daily basis both for work and play, and
what devices they already owned, I advised them to wait for the L Braille
14.
I have a 128 GB iPad Mini 4 which I pay $32 a month for on my phone plan.
Eventually I will trade that in for a newer tablet. I already own a focus
display. And I like it very much. This is not my primary laptop. That is a
Windows 10 Home 64 bit machine with two internal drives and 16 GB of ram. It
is my primary home computer. I would not want an L Braille to be my primary
home computer. But maybe that is just me.
There is a gentlemen on some of the technical lists who is involved with the
L Braille. I will see if I can point him this way. I know he is on one of
these Jaws lists.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 1:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the experience
should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the 
> ElBraille, and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is 
> compare with, say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
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> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
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> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also 
> uses Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-10 Thread Judy Jones
Hi again.

I actually did some checking today with VFO, and the El Braille is actually
a docking station for the focus 40 or 14.  A docking station with memory
storage.  The price, $1795.

Here is my question.  If you get a laptop, say, for $800, add in $995, I
believe it is for Jaws, that would come to roughly the same price, but you
would have probably a terabite of memory on the PC, only 160 GB on the
ElBraille.  What would be the incentive for bying this docking station with
memory, other than size advantage?  I asked the salesman to help me
understand that rationale so I could hellp sell the idea to our agency.  He
could not come up with anything.  Am I missing something here?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 6:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the 
experience should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the ElBraille,
> and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is compare with,
> say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also uses
> Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-10 Thread Judy Jones


Thank you for that info. What is the cost?




JudySent from my Galaxy S5 Mini

 Original message 
From: Bob <t...@squashyware.com> 
Date: 3/10/17  6:02 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions. 

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the 
experience should be the same.

I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:
> Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the ElBraille,
> and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is compare with,
> say, the new Hims Polaris
>
> Judy
> ?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Moderator
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
> Hi Judy,
> Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.
>
> Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
> jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.
>
>
> Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also uses
> Jaws?
>
>   
>
> Judy
>
>   
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-10 Thread Bob

Judy

The ElBraille is essentially a Windows 10 PC in a notetaker sized package.

You can use Internet Explorer or Firefox.

If you already use Jaws on a PC with a braille display then the 
experience should be the same.


I havent used the Polaris so I cant comment on any differences.

Bob


On 10/03/2017 12:45, Judy Jones wrote:

Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the ElBraille,
and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is compare with,
say, the new Hims Polaris

Judy
?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi Judy,
Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message -
From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.


Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also uses
Jaws?

  


Judy

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-10 Thread Judy Jones
Thank you.  I would like to hear anyone's experiences with the ElBraille,
and I would like to know what the browser is.  How does is compare with,
say, the new Hims Polaris

Judy
?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 5:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

Hi Judy,
Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.


Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also uses
Jaws?

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.

2017-03-10 Thread Moderator
Hi Judy,
Anything that is related to Jaws is on-topic for this list.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2017 8:13 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ElBraille questions.


Are any curiosity questions appropriate here, since El Braille also uses
Jaws?

 

Judy

 

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