Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws
This all sounds very interesting. I am a professional musician and vocalist, but I play piano. Is there any software out there compatible with JAWS, apart from the Lime Aloud software, enabling music composition? Also, are there any apps or website which would allow for reading piano charts? I play mostly by ear but with certain songs such as the old jazz standards, charts are often a great help. I would also like to be able to be able to read and write lead sheets, and to be able to use a musical keyboard as a composition tool, connected to a PC, using JAWS. Is this possible? If not, is it something which FS might look at? Lime Aloud is not as user-friendly as Sibelius was nor as friendly as some of the other musical programs I've heard of. Thanks. Michele - Original Message - From: CristÁch3bal crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date: Saturday, January 3, 2015 6:41 am Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws No kidding. Here I thought it would be a straight forward process. Little did I know...I use YouTube a lot and have found it to be an overall great resource to learn a new song or rifs and other tricks, but the problem with it is that often the quality of the instruction is entirely dependant on the person describing what they are doing. I've found some people who are really good at detailing what their fingers are doing and the chord progression, but it's still too hit and miss. That and if you want to learn the finger picking and other accompaniments and not just the chords, then it's even harder. There's an ultimate guitar app for iOS that some blind folks have talked about, but I guess accessibility was broken with an update. Seems accessible enough to me, but again, Voiceover just reads E---c-But0 etc. So I don't know what they're doing to be able to decipher what VO is saying. I'm still getting used to the termonology from Spanish to English. C=do, re=Do G=Sol and so on so it's that much more awkward too. I did hear of one recourse called Talking Tabs discussed on another mailing list, but their site: www.talking tabs.com gbrings up a service unavailable page so who knows what happened there. I also found something called LunarTabsPro: https://code.google.com/p/lunartabspro/ Looks to be some sort of project to make electric guitar tabs accessible, but they specifically mention that Jaws may or may not work with it and recommend using NVDA. I'm not all keen on diving down the rabbit hole of learning another screen reader just for this. Maybe in the future when I have more time, but that's not necessarily a priority right now. Anyway...I too would be interested in any information or resources that would make guitar tab reading accessible with Jaws. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws Hi Cristóbal, I have been playing guitar for over 35 years now, and used tabs quite abit before losing my sight, but since then, I have found nothing to make the reading of it easy. That is not to say that there is nothing available, I just haven't found it from the searching that I have done. I am fully capable of playing by ear and improvising where I need to, so not having the tabs has not hurt me that much. I usually used this to learn tricky parts in songs which were confusing. Tabs are one of the best inovations in the world of stringed instruments to have come along in probably centuries. If you do find a resource, please post it for all to s ee. Mike blindb...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws Hello list, So I'm trying to figure out how to read tabs for the guitar. I've always played by ear or memorization, but figured I'd finally learn tabs. Doing so however seems a bit challenging with Jaws. I'm sure it in part has to do with my lack of familiarity with tabs in general, but with all the E's, b's, g's and dashes and so on, it sounds like Jaws is just reading a bunch of gibberish. Can anyone recommend a better method or tips on how to decipher these hieroglyphics with JFW. My guitar learning was all done in Spanish. So I'm also trying to get used to the notes in English. Thanks, For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws
No kidding. Here I thought it would be a straight forward process. Little did I know...I use YouTube a lot and have found it to be an overall great resource to learn a new song or rifs and other tricks, but the problem with it is that often the quality of the instruction is entirely dependant on the person describing what they are doing. I've found some people who are really good at detailing what their fingers are doing and the chord progression, but it's still too hit and miss. That and if you want to learn the finger picking and other accompaniments and not just the chords, then it's even harder. There's an ultimate guitar app for iOS that some blind folks have talked about, but I guess accessibility was broken with an update. Seems accessible enough to me, but again, Voiceover just reads E---c-B--0 etc. So I don't know what they're doing to be able to decipher what VO is saying. I'm still getting used to the termonology from Spanish to English. C=do, re=D G=Sol and so on so it's that much more awkward too. I did hear of one recourse called Talking Tabs discussed on another mailing list, but their site: www.talking tabs.com gbrings up a service unavailable page so who knows what happened there. I also found something called LunarTabsPro: https://code.google.com/p/lunartabspro/ Looks to be some sort of project to make electric guitar tabs accessible, but they specifically mention that Jaws may or may not work with it and recommend using NVDA. I'm not all keen on diving down the rabbit hole of learning another screen reader just for this. Maybe in the future when I have more time, but that's not necessarily a priority right now. Anyway...I too would be interested in any information or resources that would make guitar tab reading accessible with Jaws. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:07 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws Hi Cristóbal, I have been playing guitar for over 35 years now, and used tabs quite abit before losing my sight, but since then, I have found nothing to make the reading of it easy. That is not to say that there is nothing available, I just haven't found it from the searching that I have done. I am fully capable of playing by ear and improvising where I need to, so not having the tabs has not hurt me that much. I usually used this to learn tricky parts in songs which were confusing. Tabs are one of the best inovations in the world of stringed instruments to have come along in probably centuries. If you do find a resource, please post it for all to s ee. Mike blindb...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws Hello list, So I’m trying to figure out how to read tabs for the guitar. I’ve always played by ear or memorization, but figured I’d finally learn tabs. Doing so however seems a bit challenging with Jaws. I’m sure it in part has to do with my lack of familiarity with tabs in general, but with all the E’s, b’s, g’s and dashes and so on, it sounds like Jaws is just reading a bunch of gibberish. Can anyone recommend a better method or tips on how to decipher these hieroglyphics with JFW. My guitar learning was all done in Spanish. So I’m also trying to get used to the notes in English. Thanks, For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws
Hi Cristóbal, I have been playing guitar for over 35 years now, and used tabs quite abit before losing my sight, but since then, I have found nothing to make the reading of it easy. That is not to say that there is nothing available, I just haven't found it from the searching that I have done. I am fully capable of playing by ear and improvising where I need to, so not having the tabs has not hurt me that much. I usually used this to learn tricky parts in songs which were confusing. Tabs are one of the best inovations in the world of stringed instruments to have come along in probably centuries. If you do find a resource, please post it for all to s ee. Mike blindb...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Cristóbal Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws Hello list, So I’m trying to figure out how to read tabs for the guitar. I’ve always played by ear or memorization, but figured I’d finally learn tabs. Doing so however seems a bit challenging with Jaws. I’m sure it in part has to do with my lack of familiarity with tabs in general, but with all the E’s, b’s, g’s and dashes and so on, it sounds like Jaws is just reading a bunch of gibberish. Can anyone recommend a better method or tips on how to decipher these hieroglyphics with JFW. My guitar learning was all done in Spanish. So I’m also trying to get used to the notes in English. Thanks, For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws
My ear is not the best, and I would like to be able to read guitar tabs as well. The guitar is my six string laptop! Brian -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:52 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading guitar tabs with Jaws Hello list, So Im trying to figure out how to read tabs for the guitar. Ive always played by ear or memorization, but figured Id finally learn tabs. Doing so however seems a bit challenging with Jaws. Im sure it in part has to do with my lack of familiarity with tabs in general, but with all the Es, bs, gs and dashes and so on, it sounds like Jaws is just reading a bunch of gibberish. Can anyone recommend a better method or tips on how to decipher these hieroglyphics with JFW. My guitar learning was all done in Spanish. So Im also trying to get used to the notes in English. Thanks, For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
