[lace] Picots - so hard to change
Dear Friends, I know we've discussed picots many times over the years, and ever since I first learned them I've always done 5T pin, 2T which has served me well. However, some months ago I bought and read Ulrike VOELKER's book called The Grammar of Point Ground. Many of her tips I had already figured out for myself, but I did get quite a surprise when I read about picots. Whilst Ulrike said the number of twists before the pin can vary a lot according to the thread you are using, she stressed that the total should always be an odd number, but that there should NEVER be any twists AFTER the pin. OK, I thought, I'll give it a go. So, I have this past week finished a lovely edging in Blonde Lace where I did the picots 7T pin. I'm sure there are quite a number towards the beginning of the piece which are still 5T pin 2T. You just don't realize how automatic these moves become. Now that the pins are removed, I have to say that I am very happy with the result. Every single picot of the many hundreds worked perfectly and each is snuggled right up to the passives owing to the lack of twists following the pin. Give it a shot David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
Hi David Arachnids, Thank you David for sharing this! Hopefully this will stop my picots leaning back. Happy lace making, Joepie in a miserably rainy East Sussex, UK ( Good lace weather, though!;-) From: David C COLLYER However, some months ago I bought and read Ulrike VOELKER's book called The Grammar of Point Ground. Whilst Ulrike said the number of twists before the pin can vary a lot according to the thread you are using, she stressed that the total should always be an odd number, but that there should NEVER be any twists AFTER the pin. Give it a shot David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: Muslin
Since we have had a discussion about muslin on the list before (different meanings across the pond since we use it in various ways to subsidize our lace making), I thought I would share the A.Word.A.Day information that came today, that you might find interesting. (below) Best, Susan Reishus muslin PRONUNCIATION: (MUHZ-lin) MEANING: noun: A plain-woven cotton fabric made in various degrees of fineness. ETYMOLOGY: From French mousseline, from Italian mussolina, from Mussolo (Mosul, Iraq) which was known for this fabric. Earliest documented use: 1609. NOTES: Earlier sheer muslin was used for women's dresses and as a result, the word muslin was used collectively for women. Today muslin is mostly used for curtains, sheets, tablecloths, etc. USAGE: What goes on in Brussels is glimpsed through a veil of muslin. Late night wheeler-dealing is not always recorded. Stephen Glover; Let's Send More Reporters to Brussels; The Independent (London, UK); Nov 2, 2009. Explore muslin in the Visual Thesaurus. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: Muslin
Dear Susan, muslin ETYMOLOGY: From French mousseline, from Italian mussolina, from Mussolo (Mosul, Iraq) which was known for this fabric. Earliest documented use: 1609. It just so happens that I am currently reading the original writings of Marco Polo which have been annotated in the 1890s. Polo himself mentions in quite some detail the manufacture of muslin in the city if Mausul (later Mosul) Iraq, and that was in the year 1295!!! The annotator did say that the fabric was much coarser then than it later became. Other towns in that region at that time were noted for their magnificent silk which they then quilted and patch-worked into diamond motifs for the sleeves of nobility across Europe including England!!! Seems to me there was far more trade going on between India and England than has long been recognised!!! Interesting David in Ballarat NOTES: Earlier sheer muslin was used for women's dresses and as a result, the word muslin was used collectively for women. Today muslin is mostly used for curtains, sheets, tablecloths, etc. USAGE: What goes on in Brussels is glimpsed through a veil of muslin. Late night wheeler-dealing is not always recorded. Stephen Glover; Let's Send More Reporters to Brussels; The Independent (London, UK); Nov 2, 2009. Explore muslin in the Visual Thesaurus. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
Hi David, like you I was taught 5t pin 2t never questioned it before, but will certainly give it a try on the next picots that I do. Bye the way, I never saw the poppies finished, did you post a picture, did I miss it somehow? Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
I had been doing 3t pin 3t, as described in the book I have been learning from, with little success. The two threads always popped apart when I took the pin out. Another, much older, book it suggested 6t pin, which worked a lot better. Based on this discussion, I will start giving 7t a try. Picots are one of the challenges I am struggling with as a beginner. Katelyn Schreyer Washingon DC - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Uses for Lace (Some Inspiration?)
I thought this was a pretty presentation worth viewing, and provides some inspiration (though cut lace doesn't appeal, perhaps folded does). S http://www.womenbeforeus.com/aterforsaljare.aspx Best, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
That sounds like a smart idea Malvery, I hadn't thought of that, yet although I was wondering how wide would be ok on this pillow. The way I am using the pillow at the moment I am able to place the edge bobbins off the working apron out of the way giving me enough room to work comfortably in the centre. I am sure there will be a no more than number though on this pillow. I can do both cant I, try working the pattern and find out what is a comfortable amount of bobbins to work. If it really is too much for this pillow I will go back to my falthful home made large block pillow which works very well but it was hoped that I could work these ongoing project on the roller pillow where ever we go (but if this year is anything to go by I can continue on with the block pillow, as were weren't able to get anywhere). Enjoy your holiday Malvery and save some sunshine for some of us being battered by wild winds and rain at the moment. Sue T, having a wet week in weymouth Sue wrote: Once I have used up this thread I am planning on designing and making a wider and longer strip of lace for a tablecloth edge As someone with a couple of travel pillows might I suggest that you try a wider piece with more bobbins before you commit to making a long length. There is nothing more frustrating than finding that you don't have enoiugh room for your bobbins in the small space. I know that about 22 pairs is the maximum comfortablle on one pillow and the other fold-up to a carrying one it would be less. When you have designed your lace you might want to try a sample to see how it works before committing to a table-cloth length. Malvary on holiday near Bodden Town, Grand Cayman where it is 84f today and no snow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
How wide is a swedish one and how wide the apron. I did buy the foam roller for the 5 and 1/4 inch block pillow but didn't get on with it (but maybe might do better now I have got the knack, worth a try. We were considering making one earlier this year, but in the end decided to buy as it could be a work in progress for years, like some other things:-) Perhaps you could take a photo of your swedish pillow? Sue T I agree with Malvary about the width. I only came to like roller pillows when I was given a Swedish one, which is more substantial than a foam one, and has a much wider apron, so gives me plenty of space for wider strips. Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Thank you Jacquie, Will consider all this when designing or choosing a pattern, both across and pattern repeat. Will certainly work a sample piece to prove it works, or not, on the pillow, it works with the thread and I like it enough to go all the way around a rectangle table cloth. I had already decided to gather around the corners for the cloth as it would be way too complicated to do corners on this project. I did work corners on my napkins in 2008 but that was nicely challenging not horribly difficult which this might be. I am expecting to be able to loose wrap and bag the yardage of lace and allow it to come up over the cover cloths (which will be protecting everything from the pins, and there is room above the roller to take soft sausage rolled lace...I hope), but thank you for making me think that through. I might still resort to working this on my big home made block pillow if I choose to make a wider than will fit on the block and just working it at home, and just find a pretty set of narrow edgings to keep on the travel pillow to take and work when away from home. I like to take lace to work on trips more than 2 nights long, and eventually I can perhaps make a christening gown or something with lace strips and good quality cloth. Or else to use to decorate around hanky edges or ring pillow, or something similar. Sue T where it is blowing wild and wet, but please dont allow the snow to get this far south, I dont like it:-) The other thing to consider when working on a roller is the length of the pattern repeat. Because of the curve of the roller, the optimum sweet spot to work on is usually only about 2 inches maximum. If you are doing a wider edging with a longer repeat you will find you have to keep dodging about Jacquie in Lincolnshire. Our gas was to be cut off today so DH got up early and put both the central - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Fw: roller pillow and lace
It would be interesting to get opinions on the sensible, comfortable number of pins in a given area of pillow. The roller pillow is My napkins certainly go into the wash in a pillowcase and damp press rather than allow to dry and they come up well each time. I also have a kerchief I made which has also been washed in the same way without problems. I dont have a dryer. I am going to play with patterns so will see what works well and what causes me problems:-) thank you for your add ons. Sue T Just remember if you are going to do a wider piece of lace, check that your roller pillow has room for all the bobbins. It can be a little uncomfortable if they are getting in your way. If using blue cardstock, you will still need to cover the ink on the pricking with something unless it is a permanent ink. I don't worry about yardage lace getting dirty, it is probably going to be attached to something washable anyway. I am a firm believer in chucking the finished item with lace into the washer and dryer. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org Hi Janice, I do remember some of this but on this occasion chose to use normal pricking card, but have since been reminded that ordinary card without the blue sticky would work well. It was my first try at using the roller pillow and I have a snug fit over the top of the roller as well as a piece of camping foam and then cotton fabric tight around it. It is working pretty well, I am getting on well. Having achieved that I will go for the lighter card next time and the slightly larger roll of card to prevent the pins using the same hole for yards Sue T - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] UK suppliers
Hi I have had occasion to use three different UK suppliers over the last couple of months and I would like to say what great service I've had from each of them. All the things I ordered came far sooner than I expected and were just what I ordered. So, thank you, in chronological order, Jo Firth, Mainly Lace and Church Meadow Craft. No connection, just one (very) satisfied customer. Alison in Colchester, Essex, UK where it's too dark to see just how windy it is, but it was certainly windy earlier - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
The greater number of twists are for finer thread. I think it's a matter of physics, the number of twists in total should be an odd number but I'm too lazy to check this out. For the double picot (with two loops snuggled into one), make sure that once the loops are in place around the pin, that the pair is gently but firmly tensioned - to prevent 'rabbit ears'. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:29 AM, Katelyn Schreyer krschre...@gmail.com wrote: I had been doing 3t pin 3t, as described in the book I have been learning from, with little success. The two threads always popped apart when I took the pin out. Another, much older, book it suggested 6t pin, which worked a lot better. Based on this discussion, I will start giving 7t a try. - -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Demonstrating at Christmas Tree festival
Hi It's nearly 2 weeks since I did my demonstration at our church's Christmas Tree festival and I thought I ought to let you all know how I got on. It was an interesting experience. I was there all day on Saturday, apart from going home for lunch and for about 4 hours on Sunday afternoon. I certainly had a few good conversations, and explained how lace is made to several people, including a friend's husband, who seemed to understand the process. A couple of small boys were fascinated by the spiders I was doing and made a point of counting the legs on all of them. And one small girl wanted to have a go and did several stitches of ground for me. I doubt very much whether anyone will want to start making lace as a result of this, but you never know. The good thing was that I was making bookmarks to sell for our building project and I sold the 5 I had already made plus the one I made on Saturday and the one I started on Sunday. I was using one of my own designs. But I was wondering whether anyone knows whether it would be violating copyright if I were to use someone else's design and sell it for charity? Alison in cold and windy Colchester, Essex, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: Subject: [lace] Roller pillow and lace
Good advise as it isn't very wide. I designed this pattern as a square photoframe for Alice for the Arachne exchange in 2008 I think, and have since changed it to be this straight strip to try on this pillow. I called it Alice of course:-) It is working up well and getting me into the swing of using up the silk threads, finding out all the little things I dont know yet and even bringing in new threads as I go, at the moment. We have two of those little glass angels which we bought last december at our local garden centre which puts up a fabulous christmas display every year. I bought them because I liked them for our small christmas tree and when we got them home my DH told me how lovely they would look with some lace around them, !!! bless him.. LOL. As if I didn't have anything to do at all. this year I started very early so was all finished during November and didn't buy anything this year that just needed that extra bit of lace:-) hense the reason I have time to play and get used to this new pillow I have only had for 5 or 6 months:-) Sue T It looks like a fairly small roller to me, so definitely try a small sample of lots of bobbins first. Looks like a nice pattern to work for demo'ing. BTW, where did you get the little glass angel that you put the lace skirt on? I have not seen those before. I wonder if anyone carries them in the US. Janice Subject: [lace] Roller pillow and lace MY DH has taken a photo of the roller pillow (just as I was putting it to bed the other evening, so I have uploaded it onto the webshots site in the hurwitzend album. He was the other side of the pillow, so has the finished lace, and the roller. the bobbins are pinned up inside the cover cloth the other side of it. Sue T Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
I have said on arachne several times over the years that theres no point in doing twists after the picot; this is what I was taught by Pat Read in the mid 1980s and I how I have done them and taught them ever since. If you analyse where the twists go, the ones before the pin form the cord around the pin; like the jam in the sandwich it sits between the two threads making the picot. But any twists after the pin just make a leg between the picot and the edge of the lace and can push the picot at an angle to the edge, rather than it sitting square on to the edge. The number of twists depends on the thickness of the thread relative to the pin size. There is no magic number. This is one of the things which you should work out as you do your first picot of the piece (or even better, as you do your thread sample!); you need enough twists to make your cord around the pin the right length to fit the pin neatly. Too few and the picot can look scruffy and the threads may not be be held tightly together, too many and you will have trouble making the picot smooth. A thick linen might only need three or four twists even around a heavy pin, whereas 180 Honiton thread can take easily take 7 or 8 twists around a very fine pin. On the same theme, make sure all your pins are the same size or your careful calculations won't work! I see lots of people with pin tins and cushions of assorted sizes. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Fw: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace pvt
Hi Lyn, go into arachne webshots and the Hurwitzend folder and it is the first photo. My cat, sadly is no longer with us and we were just talking about missing him. He used to just hold the bobbins steady, he never upset anything. He did occasionally get between me and the pillow (by sitting on my lap:-) Sue T Dear Sue, I wanted to see the picture of your travel pillow on your website. I went there, saw the really cute picture of you making lace with the cat looking on, seeing what is able to be caught. But I could find no picture of a travel pillow. Could you please direct me further? I must be having a senior moment. lrb http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] roller pillows
I am using a homemade block pillow at the moment which is about 24 inches wide, It is a D shape with moveable blocks down the middle. I made it to go in a suitcase. I have 22 pair of bobbins for a buckspoint pattern I designed, which is also called Alice, after my deceased MIL. I probably have about 3 inches space on either side of my bobbins on the apron and it is very comfortable, so I imagine if it were 18 inches, it would still be okay. I like leashes of at least 6 inches from the pins to the top of my midlands bobbins. Don't have a tape measure here so I used a dollar bill which is about 6 wide. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA, but still in Chicago in the Executive lounge. For some reason my computer got disconnected in the bedroom, so I am using one belonging to the hotel in Chicago. Now to go and try the free appetizers and drinks before dinner. Can't be bad!! www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] re: Picots - so hard to change
Katelyn wrote. I had been doing 3t pin 3t, as described in the book I have been learning from, with little success. The two threads always popped apart when I took the pin out. Another, much older, book it suggested 6t pin, which worked a lot better. Based on this discussion, I will start giving 7t a try. Picots are one of the challenges I am struggling with as a beginner. Pamela Nottingham's book The Technique of Bobbin Lace says:- Take the two left hand threads of the plait, and Tw3. Take a pin in the right hand and hold it- point to the left- over the extreme left thread. Bring the point under the thread towards the worker and over into the picot hole. Keep it loosely around the pin. Take the other thread and put it around the same pin, bringing it to the front and clockwise behind. Twist the two threads together three times more, and pull tightly together. The threads should run twisted together about the pin to form a sound double picot. If the threads remain as two separate loops when the pin is removed the picot is incorrect. This happens when threads are tightened separately before the final twist are added For a right hand picot you would Tw3 the two threads and hold the pin under the extreme right hand thread, then bring the point over the thread towards the worker and place the pin in the hole. Wind the other thread anti clockwise round the same pin and twist 3 again before tightening the threads. I think it might not be the number of twist you are using that is the problem but the fact that you could be tensioning the threads before putting the Tw3 on the threads after putting up the pin. If this is what you are doing then try keeping the threads slack until you have done the Tw3 after the pin and then tension the threads tightly, as in the instructions above, and see what happens. This book is a very good one to have a copy of for anyone learning bobbin lace making and especially, I would think, when trying to teach yourself the craft it has lots of diagrams and clear instructions. I have had my copy of the book since I went to classes 30 years ago in the UK. I find I have to refer to the book now and then, especially when I am working a 6 pair crossing and I need to refresh my memory of how that goes. I make a note of them to pin to my pillow. Regards Jenny DeAngelis - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re:roller pillow and pins
- Original Message - It would be interesting to get opinions on the sensible, comfortable number of pins in a given area of pillow. The pins anchor the lace so subsequent tensioning does not pull it out of shape. The closeness of the stitches, and the kind of stitches, will affect how many are needed to stabilize the lace. If the pins are very close together, an inch of pins are probably enough. Chances are that this is not the type of pattern you would put on a travel pillow. I would guess that you would want one and a half inches to two inches of pins. If you start out with two inches worth, you should have enough even if/when you bend a pin or lose one, which does happen occasionally. Having said that, I just checked three of my projects and counted the rows of pins. It was 12 to 15 rows on each of them, counting the pins on the footside or the headside. Thinking in rows might be easier than inches. I would suggest, however, that you chose a pattern that does *not* have a cloth stitch edge passive that never sees a pin. This sort of passive has nothing to anchor it, and a strong pull when tensioning can gather up the edge past the pins. This was a source of frustration for me on more than one pattern. Alice in Oregon ... where I just spent half the day doing charity shopping with my husband. That's an experience I'm glad I do only once a year. He's not the easiest person to shop with. He belongs to a group that sponsors several families at Christmas. At least I don't have to wrap and deliver them this year. - Original Message - It would be interesting to get opinions on the sensible, comfortable number of pins in a given area of pillow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] re: Picots - so hard to change
The instructions for keeping the threads slack until the the pin is in place are excellent; the problem with the Nottingham instructions is the three twists before, three after the pin. The three before form the picot itself, the three after have nowhere to go. If you look at the picots in the Nottingham books they are all at an angle to the edge, with the teardrop shape pushed uphill. I taught myself picots from the Pamela Nottingham books, and at my very first lesson with Pat Read she asked me how I was doing them as they didn't sit straight, and that's when she showed me her way. If you do five twists before the pin is placed, and then just one or none after you will find that the teardrop can sit with its centre line at right angles to the edge. Pat Read actually places the second, previously inner bobbin (that goes round the pin above the cord) to the outside, which is a twist on the left or a reverse twist on the right. It closes off the lower side of the picot, but doesn't push it out of line at all. Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Demonstrating at Christmas Tree festival
In message c546551ff307cf428001639e689f106f04a03...@mbx2-node2.essex.ac.uk, Gray, Alison J ag...@essex.ac.uk writes I was using one of my own designs. But I was wondering whether anyone knows whether it would be violating copyright if I were to use someone else's design and sell it for charity? Technically, yes, you would be. It is the same reason why dressmakers are supposed to buy a fresh copy of a commercial pattern for each garment they make from it. However, you will probably find that most lace designers are happy for you to raise funds for charity from their designs, all you need do is ask - I had a lovely letter (giving permission) from Christine Springett when I asked if I could use her snake pattern for this purpose (raising funds in that case for our local hospice - that was in 1991, when I designed my Giles the Dog bookmark for the same fete). You, Alison, are welcome to use any of my patterns which have been published (in Lace, Canadian Lacemaker Gazette and the Penguin Pattern Book) - but I would appreciate it if anyone else uses any of my patterns for fundraising or adaptation, etc, they ask first and email me a picture of the results afterwards! -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] plenty about picots
I am looking at the OIDFA Point Ground Study Book on the Picots page - there are 23 different point ground laces listed in the chart, each using one or more of *18* different ways to make a picot. Some of the picot methods depend on what else is done immediately at the picot, in the headside. Methods vary: twists before and after the pin, or only before, or only after, or none at all. Eleven methods use an odd number of twists. Five use an even number of twists. Of the other two, one has no twists (CTC, pin, CTC for Blonde de Caen) and the other looks like the picot pair is tied in a half-hitch at the pin (interesting). This is an excellent reference of charts on the components of the different point ground laces in the study. This resource was first published in 2001. The coordinator was Pam Nottingham. I think it is long out of print but worth keeping watch for a copy. Point Ground Lace. A Comparative Study. ISBN 0 95406960 9 -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
David C COLLYER responded Did you by any chance try her suggestion of using a thicker pin for the picots? I've been doing that for years. Hiya, David, I guess you're into spring now. Boggles my mind. How does the picot pin improve things for you? Do you have big holes in your pillow? I tried picot pins and didn't see much difference, and I had big holes in my roller pillow. But then my picots are a work in progress, so the assessment of a really experienced lacemaker would be appreciated. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where it's dark now. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: And someone else wrote that she had not used a roller pillow until relatively recently. I know the old pillows, Le Puy, for sure, were roller pillows. As I understand it, block pillows are a recent invention. Mostly, yes. Swiss pillows may be an exception. About 20 years ago, a friend was given a pillow by a 90-year-old Swiss woman whose (mother or grandmother) had made lace on it. It had a wooden base with a drawer in it. Along the sides on the sloped top there were pads (don't know the stuffing, linen fabric covering). Between the padded sides were three square metal trays, filled with sawdust and covered in linen. Modern Swiss style pillows were sold by The Lacemaker (when it was in Washington and then when it was in Ohio), the blocks made of ethafoam instead of sawdust-filled metal trays. Granted, this pillow is probably only 100 years old and I don't know how far back the tradition of this pillow went. But it's certainly a lot older than most block pillow designs. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Linen centres Raffle Restuls
Dear Friends, today during my lunch time assignation, I got my partner Lindsay to draw the 9 names of those who are to receive an Irish linen spoke-stitched handkerchief. They are:- - Shirley TREGELLAS - Shirley McDANIEL - Shirley MEIER (can you believe he drew the 3 Shirleys in a row!! - 'tis true) - Erica McLEOD - Gwen O'CALLAGHAN - Clay BLACKWELL - better send me your address again Clay - Janis SAVAGE - Rosemary in Portugal - I need your address Rosemary - Sr Claire Edith de la CROIX - I need your address please. Congrats Ladies. I'll get them off to you as soon as I can. David in Ballarat, AUS - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
G'day Lyn, Hiya, David, I guess you're into spring now. Boggles my mind. How does the picot pin improve things for you? Do you have big holes in your pillow? I tried picot pins and didn't see much difference, and I had big holes in my roller pillow. But then my picots are a work in progress, so the assessment of a really experienced lacemaker would be appreciated. My picot pin is simply a silver lace-making pin which happens to be of a much greater thickness than my other pins as they are the very fine Withoff pins. I've never noticed any holes in my pillow The effect is worth it David Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, where it's dark now. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Picots - so hard to change
Oh Lyn, I guess you're into spring now. I forgot to say, we're actually into SUMMER now and today is a gorgeous 30C David Boggles my mind. How does the picot pin improve things for you? Do you have big holes in your pillow? I tried picot pins and didn't see - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] roller pillow and lace (Maltese pillow)
Lorelei Halley lhal...@bytemeusa.com wrote: I have seen many Maltese silk pieces with turned corners, but these also would be mid 19th century or just a little earlier, and I have no idea what shape of pillow was used on Malta. What today in Malta/Gozo is called a traditional pillow looks like a loaf of French/Italian bread. It is a bunch of straw wrapped in brown paper (like grocery bags!). About 4-6 inches (10-15 cm) diameter and 24 inches (60 cm) long. I don't know how far back that pillow originated. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Travel Pillows
I made a firm quilted mat with a U shape to fit around the roller on my travel pillow, and the sides go over onto the back flap (where a beaded pin holds the ends in place while I am working. This stops the bobbins and threads falling in between the side flaps and the gap before the back flap, where they would get caught and sometimes break a thread. I cribbed the idea from someone else, - and it works a treat. The back ends I unpin, when closing up the pillow, and they fold in above the pins. Like you Janet, I, too, wash some lace in the washing machine. I have a pair of collar corners, which are stitched to a blouse collar, and the whole lot goes in the machine. I pull them out to shape before handing the blouse on the line, and then just iron them when I iron the blouse. I know one lady nearly had apoplexy when she heard me say that, but they come up alright, look pretty, and are wearing well. They are Many years old - like ?25, and still going strong!! Cotton is made to wash and iron...!!! :) Yes, Helen, I remember 2 Central European lacemakers who came to Victorian Lace Days, with their Bolster pillows. My Gran lived in and around Bedford, and her pillow was more like a sack filled with straw, and turned out almost round like a ball, and sat in her Pillow maid (or Pillow horse). Regards from Liz in hot Melbourne, Oz. lizl...@bigpond.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace-chat] Soldiers' Wives
There were a total of three programmes about this choir and each one was very emotional - but the third had me sniffing loudly! Glad to see it is getting an airing outside Britain. Patricia in Wales -Original Message- From: David C COLLYER dccoll...@ncable.net.au To: lace-chat lace-c...@dont.panix.com Sent: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 6:54 Subject: [lace-chat] Soldiers' Wives Dear Friends, In case you didn't see it, there was recently a programme on TV which showed a group of Army wives who were gathered together to form a choir, in order that they could sing to their husbands at the reception they held for them on their return from a tour of duty in Afghanistan. They were so good that they were invited to take part in the Festival of Remembrance at the Albert Hall. This song was written especially for the occasion and was the opening piece of the evening. This link portrays the song and the meaning it portrayed. Weep on as I did. http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m16RGDXXENS9M5/ref%3dent_fb_linkh ttp://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/m16RGDXXENS9M5/ref=ent_fb_link David To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
