Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
That sounds like a smart idea Malvery, I hadn't thought of that, yet although I was wondering how wide would be ok on this pillow. The way I am using the pillow at the moment I am able to place the edge bobbins off the working apron out of the way giving me enough room to work comfortably in the centre. I am sure there will be a no more than number though on this pillow. I can do both cant I, try working the pattern and find out what is a comfortable amount of bobbins to work. If it really is too much for this pillow I will go back to my falthful home made large block pillow which works very well but it was hoped that I could work these ongoing project on the roller pillow where ever we go (but if this year is anything to go by I can continue on with the block pillow, as were weren't able to get anywhere). Enjoy your holiday Malvery and save some sunshine for some of us being battered by wild winds and rain at the moment. Sue T, having a wet week in weymouth Sue wrote: Once I have used up this thread I am planning on designing and making a wider and longer strip of lace for a tablecloth edge As someone with a couple of travel pillows might I suggest that you try a wider piece with more bobbins before you commit to making a long length. There is nothing more frustrating than finding that you don't have enoiugh room for your bobbins in the small space. I know that about 22 pairs is the maximum comfortablle on one pillow and the other fold-up to a carrying one it would be less. When you have designed your lace you might want to try a sample to see how it works before committing to a table-cloth length. Malvary on holiday near Bodden Town, Grand Cayman where it is 84f today and no snow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
How wide is a swedish one and how wide the apron. I did buy the foam roller for the 5 and 1/4 inch block pillow but didn't get on with it (but maybe might do better now I have got the knack, worth a try. We were considering making one earlier this year, but in the end decided to buy as it could be a work in progress for years, like some other things:-) Perhaps you could take a photo of your swedish pillow? Sue T I agree with Malvary about the width. I only came to like roller pillows when I was given a Swedish one, which is more substantial than a foam one, and has a much wider apron, so gives me plenty of space for wider strips. Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Thank you Jacquie, Will consider all this when designing or choosing a pattern, both across and pattern repeat. Will certainly work a sample piece to prove it works, or not, on the pillow, it works with the thread and I like it enough to go all the way around a rectangle table cloth. I had already decided to gather around the corners for the cloth as it would be way too complicated to do corners on this project. I did work corners on my napkins in 2008 but that was nicely challenging not horribly difficult which this might be. I am expecting to be able to loose wrap and bag the yardage of lace and allow it to come up over the cover cloths (which will be protecting everything from the pins, and there is room above the roller to take soft sausage rolled lace...I hope), but thank you for making me think that through. I might still resort to working this on my big home made block pillow if I choose to make a wider than will fit on the block and just working it at home, and just find a pretty set of narrow edgings to keep on the travel pillow to take and work when away from home. I like to take lace to work on trips more than 2 nights long, and eventually I can perhaps make a christening gown or something with lace strips and good quality cloth. Or else to use to decorate around hanky edges or ring pillow, or something similar. Sue T where it is blowing wild and wet, but please dont allow the snow to get this far south, I dont like it:-) The other thing to consider when working on a roller is the length of the pattern repeat. Because of the curve of the roller, the optimum sweet spot to work on is usually only about 2 inches maximum. If you are doing a wider edging with a longer repeat you will find you have to keep dodging about Jacquie in Lincolnshire. Our gas was to be cut off today so DH got up early and put both the central - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
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Hi Lyn, go into arachne webshots and the Hurwitzend folder and it is the first photo. My cat, sadly is no longer with us and we were just talking about missing him. He used to just hold the bobbins steady, he never upset anything. He did occasionally get between me and the pillow (by sitting on my lap:-) Sue T Dear Sue, I wanted to see the picture of your travel pillow on your website. I went there, saw the really cute picture of you making lace with the cat looking on, seeing what is able to be caught. But I could find no picture of a travel pillow. Could you please direct me further? I must be having a senior moment. lrb http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
lynrbai...@desupernet.net wrote: And someone else wrote that she had not used a roller pillow until relatively recently. I know the old pillows, Le Puy, for sure, were roller pillows. As I understand it, block pillows are a recent invention. Mostly, yes. Swiss pillows may be an exception. About 20 years ago, a friend was given a pillow by a 90-year-old Swiss woman whose (mother or grandmother) had made lace on it. It had a wooden base with a drawer in it. Along the sides on the sloped top there were pads (don't know the stuffing, linen fabric covering). Between the padded sides were three square metal trays, filled with sawdust and covered in linen. Modern Swiss style pillows were sold by The Lacemaker (when it was in Washington and then when it was in Ohio), the blocks made of ethafoam instead of sawdust-filled metal trays. Granted, this pillow is probably only 100 years old and I don't know how far back the tradition of this pillow went. But it's certainly a lot older than most block pillow designs. Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Hi Janice, I do remember some of this but on this occasion chose to use normal pricking card, but have since been reminded that ordinary card without the blue sticky would work well. It was my first try at using the roller pillow and I have a snug fit over the top of the roller as well as a piece of camping foam and then cotton fabric tight around it. It is working pretty well, I am getting on well. Having achieved that I will go for the lighter card next time and the slightly larger roll of card to prevent the pins using the same hole for yards of lace:-) thank you for reminding me of that. There is a little pocket on the back side of the travel pillow bag, but it is facing the side so not good for the lace inside. At the moment I have the lace laying straight over the bag, but have pinned a cotton hanky either side of it, so I just pull it through. I have now worked enough lace so I am going to have to roll it, or fold and pin:-) I am currently adding in new bobbins as I work when they run low (as I am using the gutterman silk thread from a previous project while learning the use the pillow). I expected to find it harder to get the hang of than I have. I will have a play with things to find out the best way to secure the lace to keep it clean and safe while I continue to work. Once I have used up this thread I am planning on designing and making a wider and longer strip of lace for a tablecloth edge which will definately be a longer work in progress and the longest piece of lace ever made by myself in all the 10 years of lacemaking. Thank you to you and all the other kind people for their advice and suggestions. Sue T Hi Sue, There was a discussion on Arachne in the past where it was suggested that if you intend to do yardage on a roller pillow, that you do not make the pricking fit a half inch left over to pin to the back of the pillow, and sewn together. Janice There wasn't room to wrap wool blanket around it, so in the end I have a thin layer of foam with a couple of layers of cotton fabric pulled tight around it and the pattern fits beautifully around that. I am using up the spare left over silk threads left on the bobbins from my finished garter. Sue T Dorset UK Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Sue wrote: Once I have used up this thread I am planning on designing and making a wider and longer strip of lace for a tablecloth edge As someone with a couple of travel pillows might I suggest that you try a wider piece with more bobbins before you commit to making a long length. There is nothing more frustrating than finding that you don't have enoiugh room for your bobbins in the small space. I know that about 22 pairs is the maximum comfortablle on one pillow and the other fold-up to a carrying one it would be less. When you have designed your lace you might want to try a sample to see how it works before committing to a table-cloth length. Malvary on holiday near Bodden Town, Grand Cayman where it is 84f today and no snow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
I agree with Malvary about the width. I only came to like roller pillows when I was given a Swedish one, which is more substantial than a foam one, and has a much wider apron, so gives me plenty of space for wider strips. Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
The other thing to consider when working on a roller is the length of the pattern repeat. Because of the curve of the roller, the optimum sweet spot to work on is usually only about 2 inches maximum. If you are doing a wider edging with a longer repeat you will find you have to keep dodging about catching up one bit to the next rather than being able to work as far as possible on a diagonal line (a bit like doing a garter where you have to keep both sides going at the same time, to do the ribbon slot join in the centre). Another reason to sample working it on a roller before starting. Also, Sue, if you are thinking of using the same travel pillow where you have been asking how to store and protect a small piece of straight lace, where are you going to put the bulk of a table cloth edge? Finally, you may have said but is this to be lace for a round/oval cloth, or are you gathering the lace at the corners? If you are working corners you'd be better on a block pillow the whole time. Jacquie in Lincolnshire. Our gas was to be cut off today so DH got up early and put both the central heating and the gas fire on full to warm the house. Half way through the morning a note arrived to say Wednesday is cancelled (really!) and the gas is turned off tomorrow instead. Snow in Drumnadrochit, North of Scotland - first 2011 photos of granddaughter in the snow have just arrived. Hope it doen't get this far south yet. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Just remember if you are going to do a wider piece of lace, check that your roller pillow has room for all the bobbins. It can be a little uncomfortable if they are getting in your way. If using blue cardstock, you will still need to cover the ink on the pricking with something unless it is a permanent ink. I don't worry about yardage lace getting dirty, it is probably going to be attached to something washable anyway. I am a firm believer in chucking the finished item with lace into the washer and dryer. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org From: Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com Hi Janice, I do remember some of this but on this occasion chose to use normal pricking card, but have since been reminded that ordinary card without the blue sticky would work well. It was my first try at using the roller pillow and I have a snug fit over the top of the roller as well as a piece of camping foam and then cotton fabric tight around it. It is working pretty well, I am getting on well. Having achieved that I will go for the lighter card next time and the slightly larger roll of card to prevent the pins using the same hole for yards of lace:-) thank you for reminding me of that. There is a little pocket on the back side of the travel pillow bag, but it is facing the side so not good for the lace inside. At the moment I have the lace laying straight over the bag, but have pinned a cotton hanky either side of it, so I just pull it through. I have now worked enough lace so I am going to have to roll it, or fold and pin:-) I am currently adding in new bobbins as I work when they run low (as I am using the gutterman silk thread from a previous project while learning the use the pillow). I expected to find it harder to get the hang of than I have. I will have a play with things to find out the best way to secure the lace to keep it clean and safe while I continue to work. Once I have used up this thread I am planning on designing and making a wider and longer strip of lace for a tablecloth edge which will definately be a longer work in progress and the longest piece of lace ever made by myself in all the 10 years of lacemaking. Thank you to you and all the other kind people for their advice and suggestions. Sue T - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Corners are possible on rollers :) Lately I've been doing squared edgings on my roller pillows - I took Sally Schoenberg's advice for moving the lace at a corner when working on a D-shaped pillow. Works a treat on the roller. On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 7:55 AM, laceandb...@aol.com wrote: or are you gathering the lace at the corners? If you are working corners you'd be better on a block pillow the whole time. -- Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west coast of Canada. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
I too work corner's on my wide Swedish roller. I work on a bit of fun-foam sheet as I approach the corner, and the pins mainly go in this. Then I bundle the bobbins carefully in cover cloths, take off the weight from the threads, and turn the pricking and lace. Yes, I used to do this on my block pillow, but I like the wider apron that the Swedish pillow gives me so much, that I have moved over to using that much more. Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Lyn wrote: As I understand it, block pillows are a recent invention. It deppends what you mean by recent. Some of the Ottawa Lace Group recently had the opportunity to visit a local lace collector to see some of her beautiful lace. She showed us a block pillow which I think was dated about 1880. It was French, but whether French from France or from Quebec or other part of Canada it wasn't clear. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
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I meant to send this to the entire list as well... Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA. USA Original Message Subject: Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace From: Clay Blackwell clayblackw...@comcast.net To: lynrbai...@desupernet.net CC: Hi Lyn... I'm not an authority on pillows, by any means, but I think that block pillows have probably been around for a very long time. According to Kloppel, Kissen, Stander, the lovely book published by the German Lace Guild in 2002 (now OOP), the Swiss in the Neuenburg region used a lovely pillow with sloping sides on the left and right, and blocks that fit vertically in between. It had a wedge-shape bottom that raised the back of the pillow, and the sides and back of this wedge were often fitted with drawers... to hold spare bobbins and perhaps the roll of finished lace. Unfortunately, the book does not give a date for this pillow, but it is very old. The Belgians had a similar pillow, but it did not have the moveable blocks. I do wish they had given some dates... our best information for the *very* old pillows (18th c. and earlier) must be through paintings of the period in question. Still, the roller pillows in this book seem to have been more widely used in all other parts of Europe for a very long time. Clay Clay Blackwell Lynchburg, VA. USA - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
