Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Jane]

Very many thanks for all the suggestions. I'm sorry not to reply before, 
but suddenly I had 4 such busy days that I didn't get to the computer. 
Anyway, I hope I have replied to everyone now.


I will try the different ideas and see how it goes. I just hope the 
infestation doesn't spread to any other pillow (they are all stored and 
used separately), especially as I will have to manage without this one 
for a month or two.


It is a good quality pillow, made by Newnhams who no longer exist. I 
couldn't replace it even if I were prepared to throw it away. But does 
anyone happen to know what fabric Newnhams used to cover their pillows? 
I don't dare 'cook' the pillow because I don't know what the fabric is.


Given the environment we live in, I can hardly be squeamish about dead 
mites. Having experienced ticks and fleas (both on dogs and personally), 
all the weird and wonderful critters in our garden and the spiders and 
bugs that find their way into the house, mites pale into insignificance 
really. Its just that I don't like them running around on the pillow 
when I am trying to work.


Thanks again for all your help.
Best wishes,
Jane
from S England where the climate is mild, windy and wet :-)

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Joy Beeson]

When exploring our newest big-box store, I was astounded to 
discover that the ice displays near the exit included one 
that dispensed dry ice!  I was so impressed that one could 
get dry ice from a vending machine that I didn't notice how 
much it cost.


I'd wager that putting an infested item into an air-tight 
container, dropping in a piece of dry ice, and leaving it 
closed for a few days would do the trick.


Until the eggs hatch and the mites hiding in other places 
hop over to take advantage of the vacant habitat.


--
Joy Beeson
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/
west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Adele Shaak]

I’d be worried about using the pesticide. Don’t forget that when you’re back 
making lace you'll have your face close to your pillow for hours at a time.

Does the temperature go below freezing where you live? Because you could just 
put it in a plastic bag and stick it outside.

Adele
West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada)
PS: Lots of people in Canada have gigantic freezer capacity during the winter 
months. It’s called a balcony.


> I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for years has 
> mites. They keep popping up among my threads.
> 
> I've searched the arachne archives, where freezing seems to be the best 
> recommendation, although spraying in some way is another. Unfortunately my 
> pillow is too large to go in our freezer, and the cover is not removeable so 
> I can't spray inside the pillow.
> 
> The most workable suggestion is to put the pillow in a plastic bag and spray 
> with insecticide (cat & dog type flea spray), seal and leave for a few days.

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[lace] pillow infestation

[Jane]

Hi All,

I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for years 
has mites. They keep popping up among my threads.


I've searched the arachne archives, where freezing seems to be the best 
recommendation, although spraying in some way is another. Unfortunately 
my pillow is too large to go in our freezer, and the cover is not 
removeable so I can't spray inside the pillow.


The most workable suggestion is to put the pillow in a plastic bag and 
spray with insecticide (cat & dog type flea spray), seal and leave for a 
few days.


The discussion was dated 2004. I just wondered if anyone has more recent 
experience / success to share?


Many thanks,
Jane
In mild and windy Hampshire

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RE: [lace] pillow infestation

[Lorelei Halley]

Jane
Another possibility is heat, depending on what your pillow is made of. If it is 
all wood, straw, natural fibers a temperature of 160 degrees Fahrenheit would 
probably kill them (that temperature kills bed bugs).
Lorelei

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From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Jane
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:53 PM
To: lace@arachne.com
Subject: [lace] pillow infestation

Hi All,

I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for years has 
mites. They keep popping up among my threads.

I've searched the arachne archives, where freezing seems to be the best 
recommendation, although spraying in some way is another. Unfortunately my 
pillow is too large to go in our freezer, and the cover is not removeable so I 
can't spray inside the pillow.

The most workable suggestion is to put the pillow in a plastic bag and spray 
with insecticide (cat & dog type flea spray), seal and leave for a few days.

The discussion was dated 2004. I just wondered if anyone has more recent 
experience / success to share?

Many thanks,
Jane
In mild and windy Hampshire

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RE: [lace] pillow infestation

[Agnes Boddington]

Store your pillows in cloth bags or similar with some dried Bay leaves, they do 
not smell but keep just about anything away. Also a good trick to put in your 
dry food jars (like rice, pasta etc.
Agnes Boddington - Elloughton UK

Hi All,

I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for years 
has mites. They keep popping up among my threads.

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Beth Marshall]

Hi Jane

Try your local vet or possibly a pharmacist for a safe, effective 
household insecticide spray (over-the-counter ones from supermarkets/pet 
stores are mostly a waste of time & money) - Indorex which our vet 
prescribed to deal with a household flea-infestation, is also effective 
against dust mites and It is not at all dangerous once dry - I've used 
it on bedding (pillows and duvet) with no ill effect on myself or my 
asthmatic husband (the accompanying leaflet advised that the insecticide 
is safe for asthmatics but they should get someone else to do the spraying)

I've not used it on my lace pillows yet but intend to once I get the 
works-in-progress off them - I don't think there's any need to shut the 
pillow up in a bag or box afterwards, the spray worked perfectly well on 
sofas & a heavily-infested bean-bag book support without covering them 
afterwards.

I reckon that's easier than trying to heat or freeze a large pillow for 
long enough to kill the mites in an English winter

Beth
In mild, damp, grey Cheshire, North West England .. not much sun _o__r_ 
frost round here in December :


> I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for 
> years has mites.  
> the cover is not removeable so I can't spray inside the pillow.
>
> The most workable suggestion is to put the pillow in a plastic bag and 
> spray with insecticide (cat & dog type flea spray), seal and leave for 
> a few days.
>
> The discussion was dated 2004. I just wondered if anyone has more 
> recent experience / success to share?
>
>

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Cynce Williams]

And you can achieve that heat in a black trash bag in the sun. Maybe in winter 
putting it in a closed car in the sun would make it warmer.

Cynthia


On Dec 2, 2015, at 1:46 PM, Lorelei Halley <lhal...@bytemeusa.com> wrote:

> Jane
> Another possibility is heat, depending on what your pillow is made of. If it 
> is all wood, straw, natural fibers a temperature of 160 degrees Fahrenheit 
> would probably kill them (that temperature kills bed bugs).
> Lorelei
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: owner-l...@arachne.com [mailto:owner-l...@arachne.com] On Behalf Of Jane
> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 12:53 PM
> To: lace@arachne.com
> Subject: [lace] pillow infestation
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for years has 
> mites. They keep popping up among my threads.
> 
> I've searched the arachne archives, where freezing seems to be the best 
> recommendation, although spraying in some way is another. Unfortunately my 
> pillow is too large to go in our freezer, and the cover is not removeable so 
> I can't spray inside the pillow.
> 
> The most workable suggestion is to put the pillow in a plastic bag and spray 
> with insecticide (cat & dog type flea spray), seal and leave for a few days.
> 
> The discussion was dated 2004. I just wondered if anyone has more recent 
> experience / success to share?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Jane
> In mild and windy Hampshire
> 
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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Clay Blackwell]

Well, yes and no...  It does sound drastic!  If the pillow has little intrinsic 
or sentimental value, I would agree.  Before I retired, I was lucky enough to 
acquire a couple of wonderful pillows, and they are my "go-to" pillows now.  If 
infested, I would definitely opt for letting the dead vermin get poked with my 
pins, rather than throwing a wonderful pillow away!  In my mind, a mite shell 
and a sea-grass bit are not so different, once both are no longer living.

Clay
Clay Blackwell in dreary Virginia, USA  Where rumor has it we will finally 
see the sun tomorrow!

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 2, 2015, at 3:10 PM, AGlez  wrote:
> 
> It may sound a bit drastic but.. what about throwing your pillow away and
> making a new one? I wouldn't like to work on a pillow with dead mites in it!
> 
> 
> Antje
> ​, from Spain, where the temperature is 0º now.
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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Kim Davis]

When I taught pre-school we ran into issues like this with some children
with lice and scabies now and again.  Parents would frequently ask what to
do with stuffed animals.  The best thing I have heard is to put the pillows
into a plastic bag for an extended period after getting out the air and
sealing it,  suffocating the mites.  With lice we were told 30 days, with
scabies we were told 72 hours.  I do not know if this is accurate or what
might be a good recipe for the particular species you have.  In any case,
it is a harmless  and insecticide free way of killing things if you can
live without the item for a bit.

Depending on what type of material your pillow is made from, an oven will
do the trick.​

Kim

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[robinlace]

There are many strong aromatic herbs in addition to sweet bay that will repel 
insects, but:

-repelling is preventing something from settling in, not killing what has 
already made it's home; herbs that discourage colonization may not be as 
effective for chasing them away once they're down inside your pillow.

-it's a lot harder to kill mites than insects (they're distantly related)

-the smell in those aromatic herbs is an oil; while they might smell nicer to 
us and be safer for us than insecticide, that doesn't mean they're safe for 
lace threads.  I don't know which (if any) herb fumes can discolor thread or 
even weaken them.  Have you ever kept cinnamon or cloves for a very long time 
in a glass jar?  It gets etched by those lovely smelling aromatic oils!  I 
doubt this is a hot topic among textile conservators and it may never have been 
investigated.  Jeri, do you know anything about herbs and thread?

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA
robinl...@socal.rr.com

Parvum leve mentes capiunt
(Little things amuse little minds)

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Adele Shaak]

> There are many strong aromatic herbs in addition to sweet bay that will repel 
> insects, 

I’d also like to mention that I recently tried to use bay leaves to protect 
against silverfish. Guess what. The silverfish made themselves a dandy little 
nest in those bay leaves. They loved them.

Adele

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Re: [lace] pillow infestation

[Liz Roberts]

If it gets cold outside where you live, maybe you can put it in a protective 
plastic bag and put it outside for a few days when the temps are below freezing.


Liz in cool and cloudy Missouri, USA



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From: Jane <janefr...@googlemail.com>
To: lace <lace@arachne.com>
Sent: Wed, Dec 2, 2015 1:00 pm
Subject: [lace] pillow infestation

Hi All,

I can no longer ignore the fact that the lace pillow I've used for years 
has mites. They keep popping up among my threads.

I've searched the arachne archives, where freezing seems to be the best 
recommendation, although spraying in some way is another. Unfortunately 
my pillow is too large to go in our freezer, and the cover is not 
removeable so I can't spray inside the pillow.

The most workable suggestion is to put the pillow in a plastic bag and 
spray with insecticide (cat & dog type flea spray), seal and leave for a 
few days.

The discussion was dated 2004. I just wondered if anyone has more recent 
experience / success to share?

Many thanks,
Jane
In mild and windy Hampshire

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