Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
Lepidosteus wrote: 2 - act weirds with tabs Disable Smart tabs Hilsen Søren _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On 11/09/2007, Lepidosteus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1 - lack some features For exemple, when typing begin, I've been used to delphi writing two new lines, end;, ans putting me on the middle line, just where I should type. I understand this is code templates or something like this, and there may even be a way to do it in lazarus yet. My issue is that you install, it doesn't do it. Code templates in Lazarus can only do so much and a little bit more using the available macros. There was talks about implementing something like the 'Code Templates' introduced in Delphi 2005 onwards. The user can define a lot more advanced features and behavior inside a code template xml file. I'm not sure if anybody has started implementing something like this in Lazarus yet. 2 - act weirds with tabs This got me completly off of it and I went back to fpcgui to edit my files. I don't remember the setting I changed, I know I have tried the default ones, they were painfull, I tried using everything available, and it never worked great. The last time I tried Tabs in the Lazarus Editor (a few months back) I noticed and it was confirmed that a lot is missing from the editor for full tab support. Save and loading files containing tabs got corrupted plus a few more. I have no idea what the state is of Tab support in the editor now - Lazarus development moves quite fast. Graeme. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
Hi, Thanks for the effort. My personal opinion (and I don't have any official say in what goes in Lazarus) is that it doesn't quite fit with the rest of the images. The style is different. If you look at the others (like in the File or Project menus) you will have noticed that we used pastel type colors. No bright colors or glossy effects have been used. Yes it's better looking than the existing Pause and Run images (which is very bland), but I think adjusting them to use the same color (pastel) palette like the other images would be a better fit. Just my 0.02c worth. Regards, - Graeme - On 10/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/9/10, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I have create images for Lazarus, made as you want ;) Regard, With the files its better !!! :D -- Laurent. My Web : http://wile64.neuf.fr/ French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] FPC 2.2 article made it onto OSNews.com
Nicely done Joost! http://www4.osnews.com/story/18592/Cross-Platform_Development_with_Free_Pascal_2.2.0 ... or a shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/ywzyvr Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:41:10 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Save and loading files containing tabs got corrupted plus a few more. Can you give more details? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] FPC 2.2 article made it onto OSNews.com
On 9/11/07, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely done Joost! http://www4.osnews.com/story/18592/Cross-Platform_Development_with_Free_Pascal_2.2.0 ... or a shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/ywzyvr I have translated the article to Hebrew, if there are anyone that interested :) http://idkn.blogli.co.il/archives/69 Regards, - Graeme - Ido -- http://ik.homelinux.org/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:48:03 +0200 Lepidosteus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I haven't done a lot of pascal code lately, and even less free pascal code using lazarus. I wanted to make changes in some old software I made for my own usage. After trying the delphi 2007 trial a couple of month ago, I've been really surprised at how bad the lazarus editor feels, *at least with the default install*. I'm not speaking about the IDE, it's as fast as back when I used it, and looks more stable, I didn't get any issue with it while coding. But the editor seems to 1 - lack some features For exemple, when typing begin, I've been used to delphi writing two new lines, end;, ans putting me on the middle line, just where I should type. I understand this is code templates or something like this, and there may even be a way to do it in lazarus yet. My issue is that you install, it doesn't do it. Code templates currently misses this automatism. You have to activate them manually with Ctrl+j. For example: Type b + Ctrl+j. 2 - act weirds with tabs This got me completly off of it and I went back to fpcgui to edit my files. I don't remember the setting I changed, I know I have tried the default ones, they were painfull, I tried using everything available, and it never worked great. Right now my indent block is set to two. function blah(i: string): integer; begin d; // indent: 5 if (true) then dosomework; // indent: 8, 5 + 3 ... end; I could not get it to indent to less than 5 chars on the first tab, which is really too much (it starts *after* the begin word ...). Disable 'smart tabs'. When you try to edit into the tab thing it gets even worse. If I put my caret after dosomework; press enter, i'm on the same column. Yes, it is a ToDo to integrate a good beautifier in lazarus, which can tell nice line indenting. So I need to unindent, i press backspace, it unindent back to column 0. Okay so I press tab to get to my column. It indent to column 8, not 5. Disable 'smart tabs'. That's where it lost me. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
On 10/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have create images for Lazarus, made as you want ;) Below are some samples I think (again my opinion only) Lazarus is going with... After all these links are mentioned in the Help - About dialog. http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/ Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
Thank you for your answer, this appear to you better? 2007/9/11, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 10/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have create images for Lazarus, made as you want ;) Below are some samples I think (again my opinion only) Lazarus is going with... After all these links are mentioned in the Help - About dialog. http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Library http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/ Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Laurent. My Web : http://wile64.neuf.fr/ French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php attachment: menu_run.png
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
On 11/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your answer, this appear to you better? Yes, that looks much better. :) Graeme. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
On 11/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And for pause ! Perfect! And all we still need is a greyed out Pause for the toolbar. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 11/09/2007, Víctor R. Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi: I know some programmers prefer Lazarus IDE the way it is. However, on my development environments, with little desktop space, working with many windows is not a happy experience. I also read some threads on the web forum requesting workspace integration, so I started digging in the Lazarus code. Thanks to Mattias' fix to the Notebook I think that screenshot looks quite nice. After working for so long with Lazarus I got so used to the IDE having separate windows. But by looking at your screenshot, I noticed I have arranged my Lazarus windows in the exact same order and next to each other to get the same effect. :-) I've the same layout in separate windows. I never can get used to delphi versions where they are placed in one window, since whin I want to edit some properties in the object inspector, the whole is covering my form so I cannot see the visual imapact. This means that I've to switch everytime between OI and form to see if it is OK. So if you ask me, I won't invest time implementing a feature in Lazarus which I never would use. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
here! 2007/9/11, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 11/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And for pause ! Perfect! And all we still need is a greyed out Pause for the toolbar. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Laurent. My Web : http://wile64.neuf.fr/ French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php attachment: btn_pause.xpmattachment: btn_run.xpm
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
If there are no objections from anybody else, could Lazarus be updated with these images? Locations to change would be the Lazarus Toolbar and Run menu. Regards, - Graeme - On 11/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here! _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
If you want I can create others with time of them? Laurent. My Web : http://wile64.neuf.fr/ French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
Graeme Geldenhuys пишет: On 11/09/2007, wile64 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And for pause ! Perfect! And all we still need is a greyed out Pause for the toolbar. Please dont be so fast :) We have some plans for next development version of lazarus (0.9.25). Greyed and Highlighted icons will be automatically generated from normal images. This should prevent extra work for designers. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
Please dont be so fast :) We have some plans for next development version of lazarus (0.9.25). Greyed and Highlighted icons will be automatically generated from normal images. This should prevent extra work for designers. it is a good idea… ;) -- Laurent. My Web : http://wile64.neuf.fr/ French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
On 11/09/2007, Marc Weustink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've the same layout in separate windows. I never can get used to delphi versions where they are placed in one window, since whin I want to edit As I mentioned, I have done the same as you and am very happy with separate windows. On the other hand it might be good to let the developer decide what layout they prefer. Delphi and VB6 could switch between SDI or MDI interface. I just did a quick look around and would guess that 90% of all IDE's use a MDI interface (but that could also be because most of them run under Windows, which loves MDI interfaces). Examples of the most popular IDE's using MDI: Eclipse (from IBM and others) Delphi (from CodeGear) Visual Studio (from Microsoft) SharpDevelop MonoDevelop Qt Designer (from Trolltech - I know it's not a IDE) VB 5,6 (from Microsoft) Magic C++ (windows and Linux ide) JBuilder (from CodeGear) JCreator KDevelop NetBeans (from Sun) JDeveloper (from Oracle) ...etc I think the MDI based IDE's outnumber the SDI based IDE's by far. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text
Luis Rodrigues wrote: Hi, Over the last weekend I've implemented text rotate in GTK2. I've implemented it in Gtk2WidgetSet.ExtTextOut. Since there is no way to define that the font is rotated, TGtk2WidgetSet.CreateFontIndirectEx .. lfEscapement can only be used to place the angle somewhere to ExtTextOut to use. The used functions (with gtk/pango version) pango_matrix_rotate - gtk2.6 pango_matrix_translate - gtk2.6 pango_context_set_matrix - gtk2.6 pango_renderer_draw_layout - pango1.8 gdk_pango_renderer_get_default - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc - gtk2.6 gtk2.6 and pango1.8 where released in Dec 2004 so I guess i can be implemented with no problems :) IIRC we already use some 2.6 funtions. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
On 11/09/2007, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please dont be so fast :) We have some plans for next development version of lazarus (0.9.25). Greyed and Highlighted icons will be automatically generated from normal images. This should prevent extra work for designers. Brilliant idea! :-) It would save lots of effort. Graeme. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Icons run and pause for Lazarus
If you want I can create others with time of them? Please do so :) Improved icons are always welcomed. Darius _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] External Tools and Messages window
I'm trying to make a simple program that I want to put under the Tools menu, configured with the Tools|Configure custom tools... command. All works nicely, but the output of my tool does not appear in the Messages window. Note that the messages are there, since I can copy all and hidden messages to clipboard. It seems to me that if I check the Scan output for Free Pascal Compiler messages checkbox this should happen. Am I missing something important? (Lazarus 0.9.22 - FPC 2.0.4 - Windows i386 platform) tiziano _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Elastic tabstops
When developing in a large team, you have to make convention about the use of tab in source code. This article suggests a better solution: rather than saying that a tab character (a 'hard tab') will move the cursor until the cursor's position is a multiple of N characters, we should say that a tab character is a delimiter between table cells. This has a nice side effect, since proportional fonts can now be used. http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ Cool feature for Lazarus? It should make Tab and Space users happy. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] IDE, start once, open files
Is there already a cross platform component for applications to check if it is already running and if yes then pass some commands to the already application? For example clicking on files in the file browser should not open a second instance, but tell the already running instance to open the files. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
Zitat von Lepidosteus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] But the editor seems to 1 - lack some features For exemple, when typing begin, I've been used to delphi writing two new lines, end;, ans putting me on the middle line, just where I should type. I understand this is code templates or something like this, and there may even be a way to do it in lazarus yet. My issue is that you install, it doesn't do it. I have a question, how it should work 'automatically': Does this mean, you can no longer write 'beginning' in Delphi? Or is the IDE waiting a little, so it is only invoked if you type begin and wait? I guess the last, but who wants to wait? Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Elastic tabstops
For people like me that don't know how to execute a *.jar files (smile) here is the syntax. java -jar ETNotepad.jar The more I played with that demo editor the more I liked the idea of implementing 'elastic tabstops' in Lazarus. I believe this will be a excellent addition to the editor and should make code formatting uniform. Regards, - Graeme - On 11/09/2007, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When developing in a large team, you have to make convention about the use of tab in source code. This article suggests a better solution: rather than saying that a tab character (a 'hard tab') will move the cursor until the cursor's position is a multiple of N characters, we should say that a tab character is a delimiter between table cells. This has a nice side effect, since proportional fonts can now be used. http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ Cool feature for Lazarus? It should make Tab and Space users happy. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Mattias Gärtner wrote: Zitat von Lepidosteus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] But the editor seems to 1 - lack some features For exemple, when typing begin, I've been used to delphi writing two new lines, end;, ans putting me on the middle line, just where I should type. I understand this is code templates or something like this, and there may even be a way to do it in lazarus yet. My issue is that you install, it doesn't do it. I have a question, how it should work 'automatically': Does this mean, you can no longer write 'beginning' in Delphi? Or is the IDE waiting a little, so it is only invoked if you type begin and wait? I guess the last, but who wants to wait? My Delphi 7 definitely doesn't do the described behaviour by default; Only if I press ctrl-j after the begin. (Nor would I want it to do this automatically) Michael.
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On 11/09/2007, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question, how it should work 'automatically': Does this mean, you can no longer write 'beginning' in Delphi? Or is the IDE waiting a little, so it is only invoked if you type begin and wait? I guess the last, but who wants to wait? I don't know and I'm guessing here... Doesn't it get triggered when you press the spacebar or enter key after the 'begin' keyword? As far as I know with the new Delphi code templates you can even define the key that triggers the completion. Will trigger code completion: beginspace or enter So typing the following will _not_ trigger code completion: beginningspace or enter will not trigger the code completion I haven't worked on Delphi since v7. Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On 11/09/2007, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Delphi 7 definitely doesn't do the described behaviour by default; Only if I press ctrl-j after the begin. (Nor would I want it to do this automatically) As far as I know that code template / code completion feature was introduced in Delphi 2005 onwards. Delphi 7 and earlier used Ctrl+J like Lazarus does. Graeme. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On 11/09/2007, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Delphi 7 definitely doesn't do the described behaviour by default; Only if I press ctrl-j after the begin. (Nor would I want it to do this automatically) As far as I know that code template / code completion feature was introduced in Delphi 2005 onwards. Delphi 7 and earlier used Ctrl+J like Lazarus does. Invoking code completion with enter is also the way that vb works. Darius Graeme. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
I've the same layout in separate windows. I never can get used to delphi versions where they are placed in one window, since whin I want to edit As I mentioned, I have done the same as you and am very happy with separate windows. On the other hand it might be good to let the developer decide what layout they prefer. Delphi and VB6 could switch between SDI or MDI interface. I just did a quick look around and would guess that 90% of all IDE's use a MDI interface (but that could also be because most of them run under Windows, which loves MDI interfaces). Why can't lazarus has both? Something like startlazarus -mdi or even better a menu switch? You shouldn't fight for dogmas. By a closer look the linux people always prefer the use of many windows. The windows people like it to be MDI. The very best would be if users can dock windows together. Like dock the properties to the main window. Now beeing one window. Then it will only have one entry in taskbar. That would be nice! (if possible having a window looking like a rotated L ). - ___ | | | | | | better one window: ___ ___ | | | | | | Hope you can understand what I try to express :-) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] Editor issues
But the editor seems to 1 - lack some features For exemple, when typing begin, I've been used to delphi writing two new lines, end;, ans putting me on the middle line, just where I should type. I understand this is code templates or something like this, and there may even be a way to do it in lazarus yet. My issue is that you install, it doesn't do it. I have a question, how it should work 'automatically': Does this mean, you can no longer write 'beginning' in Delphi? Or is the IDE waiting a little, so it is only invoked if you type begin and wait? I guess the last, but who wants to wait? From Delphi 2005 the default option in the editor is to insert a matching end statement when a code block is started by begin and after enter is pressed. It is somewhat irritating since I'm used to automatically fill in the end myself. I can see that it can save typing though. The only problem in Delphi is that the editor sometimes messes up the placement of the end in nested if statements where it is not immediately obvious how the blocks are nested. I have disabled this option at work, but at home it is enabled; which probably shows that it is at least somewhat useful even for old timers like myself. Regards, Christo NOTICE: Please note that this eMail, and the contents thereof, is subject to the standard Sasol eMail legal notice which may be found at: http://www.sasol.com/legalnotices If you cannot access the legal notice through the URL attached and you wish to receive a copy thereof please send an eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
En/na Marc Weustink ha escrit: I've the same layout in separate windows. I never can get used to delphi versions where they are placed in one window, since whin I want to edit some properties in the object inspector, the whole is covering my form so I cannot see the visual imapact. This means that I've to switch everytime between OI and form to see if it is OK. So if you ask me, I won't invest time implementing a feature in Lazarus which I never would use. OTOH I find it really sweet to have the toolbar, the messages and the editor in the same window (I always seem to be chasing the messages and/or the toolbar when I move windows around or maximize the editor, ok, my fault but I'd still like to have those in the same window). I agree that the object inspector should be in a stand alone window. Maybe the interface could be dockable? Bye -- Luca _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IDE, start once, open files
En/na Mattias Gärtner ha escrit: Is there already a cross platform component for applications to check if it is already running and if yes then pass some commands to the already application? For example clicking on files in the file browser should not open a second instance, but tell the already running instance to open the files. There's uniqueinstance http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=92177release_id=471823 (The wiki is down, so I cannot give you the wiki link) *but* it doesn't work here under Linux (I could launch more that one instance of my program). Since I hadn't too much time to debug it, I slightly modified it to open and lock a file instead of using TSimpleIpc, but that makes it non-crossplatform. Since it's short I'm including it here, it could be extended to write the pid in the file, so another instance can somewhat contact the first one. Bye -- Luca unit uniqueinstanceraw; {$mode objfpc}{$H+} interface uses Classes, SysUtils,baseunix,unix; function InstanceRunning(const Identifier: String): Boolean; function InstanceRunning: Boolean; implementation const BaseServerId = 'tuniqueinstance_'; function InstanceRunning(const Identifier: String): Boolean; var FLockFile:cint; function GetServerId: String; begin if Identifier '' then Result:=BaseServerId+Identifier else Result:=BaseServerId+ExtractFileName(ParamStr(0)); end; begin //cuando el programa termine el lock desaparece solo result:=true; FLockFile:=fpOpen('/tmp/'+GetServerId, O_RDWR or O_CREAT); if FLockFile0 then result:=fpFlock(FLockFile, LOCK_EX or LOCK_NB)0; end; function InstanceRunning: Boolean; begin InstanceRunning(''); end; end.
Re: [lazarus] unable to run Qt app
Den Jean ha scritto: On Monday 10 September 2007 12:41:50 Giuliano Colla wrote: start. Which application is irrelevant, all I tested exhibit the same behavior. using binaries across Linux distributions is not done, so recompile binding and please report if this fixes it (feedback helps us) Yes, recompiling the bindings fixed the problem, thank you. Same bindings works for me both with Qt 4.3.0 (current release in FC5) and Qt 4.3.1. It took me some time because the gcc version I've been using (from FC5 distro) doesn't use the library path to search for files, so it was unable to find libQtCore.so.4 and libQtGui.so.4. I didn't grasp the problem at first, believing that the problem was in the linker. I fixed it just by symlinking the two files in the bindings dir, but a small fix of the compile_lib.bash script would make it of more generalized use. Sort of prepending $LD_LIBRARY_PATH/ to the filenames in the g++ invocation. Makes no harm to smart g++, but it's necessary with the dumb one. To make you curious about the progress, look at Lazarus compiled with Qt4 running a bindings demo shapedclock (last screenshot thumb): http://users.pandora.be/Jan.Van.hijfte/qtforfpc/fpcqt4.html The screenshot does not show that synedit is still very slow, but what a progress Paul and Zeljko have realized. The reason I wanted to test it was exactly that I was curious about progress. I must say that I'm quite impressed. The Lazarus IDE is quite an achievement. Even if there's still work to be done, I find Qt more advanced than gtk 2. What isn't yet there doesn't work, of course, but what is there appears to me much more finished and reliable than the gtk 2 counterpart. Which is a good thing because the best you can say about gtk 2 is that it's better than gtk1... I'd love to be able to contribute, but for the moment I'm too much pressed by deadlines. But I never lose hopes. Regards, Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Still using C++ and Visual Studio? I'm using Object Pascal and Lazarus. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
Hi: 2007/9/11, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OTOH I find it really sweet to have the toolbar, the messages and the editor in the same window (I always seem to be chasing the messages and/or the toolbar when I move windows around or maximize the editor, ok, my fault but I'd still like to have those in the same window). I agree that the object inspector should be in a stand alone window. Maybe the interface could be dockable? There seems to be code for docks, but I found no documentation and just used forms and panels. I will try to add support to switch between individual windows and panels (no docks, but dock-like). Greetings, -- Víctor R. Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Todos estos momentos se perderán http://rvr.blogalia.com/ | como lágrimas en la lluvia _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] FPC 2.2 article made it onto OSNews.com
ik ha scritto: On 9/11/07, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely done Joost! http://www4.osnews.com/story/18592/Cross-Platform_Development_with_Free_Pascal_2.2.0 ... or a shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/ywzyvr I have translated the article to Hebrew, if there are anyone that interested :) http://idkn.blogli.co.il/archives/69 I was interested, but I could make out only yet another blog in blogli, then I got lost Maybe I need to refresh my hebrew a bit. :-) In any case, happy new year! Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Still using C++ and Visual Studio? I'm using Object Pascal and Lazarus. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
Zitat von Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: En/na Marc Weustink ha escrit: I've the same layout in separate windows. I never can get used to delphi versions where they are placed in one window, since whin I want to edit some properties in the object inspector, the whole is covering my form so I cannot see the visual imapact. This means that I've to switch everytime between OI and form to see if it is OK. So if you ask me, I won't invest time implementing a feature in Lazarus which I never would use. OTOH I find it really sweet to have the toolbar, the messages and the editor in the same window (I always seem to be chasing the messages and/or the toolbar when I move windows around or maximize the editor, ok, my fault but I'd still like to have those in the same window). I agree that the object inspector should be in a stand alone window. Maybe the interface could be dockable? I agree. I hope to find time to finish the LCL docking code. As soon as this works good enough it will be used in the IDE. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
Johannes Nohl wrote: I've the same layout in separate windows. I never can get used to delphi versions where they are placed in one window, since whin I want to edit As I mentioned, I have done the same as you and am very happy with separate windows. On the other hand it might be good to let the developer decide what layout they prefer. Delphi and VB6 could switch between SDI or MDI interface. I just did a quick look around and would guess that 90% of all IDE's use a MDI interface (but that could also be because most of them run under Windows, which loves MDI interfaces). Why can't lazarus has both? Since noone took the time to implement this, you're welcome. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
To the various answers here and there: - about code templates: I got used to it in various editors (namely visual studio and eclipse), some people may not like it and don't want it to be on per default, but for someone coming from thse editors it definetly looks like something is missing. (it should do things after i write begin and press enter yes). - smart tabs help a bit but then indent are of 8 per default instead of 5, and I can't find a way to change that. This is too much. And there is still some strange behaviour sometimes after realoding a doc (I couldn't find a reproducable one easily sorry). Again for code template I'm not saying you _have_ to implement it, just that I miss it, but I can live with that. Tabs issues on the other hand definetely kills the fun of coding. Thanks for for everyone answers -- Vianney Devreese - Lepidosteus http://lepidosteus.com _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text
Luis, Great work! A good test of a widgetset's rotated text is the ported Orpheus rotated label control, TOvcRLbl. It works with Win32, Carbon and Qt, so having GTK2 would be wonderful! There's a link on the Lazarus CCR wiki, but it appears to be down at the moment. You can also get the source from here: http://web.fastermac.net/~MacPgmr/OrphPort/OrphStatus.html Or here: https://lazarus-ccr.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/lazarus-ccr/components/o rpheus Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Luis Rodrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:39 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text Hi, Over the last weekend I've implemented text rotate in GTK2. I've implemented it in Gtk2WidgetSet.ExtTextOut. Since there is no way to define that the font is rotated, TGtk2WidgetSet.CreateFontIndirectEx .. lfEscapement can only be used to place the angle somewhere to ExtTextOut to use. The used functions (with gtk/pango version) pango_matrix_rotate - gtk2.6 pango_matrix_translate - gtk2.6 pango_context_set_matrix - gtk2.6 pango_renderer_draw_layout - pango1.8 gdk_pango_renderer_get_default - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc - gtk2.6 gtk2.6 and pango1.8 where released in Dec 2004 so I guess i can be implemented with no problems :) I've defined in Gtk2int.pas TPangoMatrix = record xx: double; xy: double; yx: double; yy: double; x0: double; y0: double; end; PTPangoMatrix = ^TPangoMatrix; PPangoRenderer = pointer; PGdkPangoRenderer = pointer; procedure pango_font_description_set_gravity (desc:PPangoFontDescription;gravity:TPangoGravity); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_rotate(matrix: PPangoMatrix; degrees: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_translate(matrix: PPangoMatrix; tx, ty: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_scale (matrix: PPangoMatrix; scale_x, scale_y: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_context_set_matrix(context: PPangoContext; matrix: PPangoMatrix); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_renderer_draw_layout (renderer: PPangoRenderer; layout: PPangoLayout; x,y: Integer); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; function gdk_pango_renderer_get_default (screen: PGdkScreen): PPangoRenderer; cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; procedure gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable (gdk_renderer: PGdkPangoRenderer; drawable: PGdkDrawable); cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; procedure gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc (gdk_renderer: PGdkPangoRenderer; gc: PGdkGC); cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; and changed gtkwinapi.inc procedure DoTextOut(X,Y : Integer; Str: Pchar; CurCount: Integer); var DevCtx: TDeviceContext; CurScreenX: LongInt; CharLen: LongInt; WidgetCont: PPangoContext; matrix: TPangoMatrix; renderer: PPangoRenderer; screen: PGdkScreen; gc: PGdkGc; begin DevCtx:=TDeviceContext(DC); if (Dxnil) then begin CurScreenX:=X; while CurCount0 do begin CharLen:=UTF8CharacterLength(CurStr); //gdk_draw_glyphs(DevCtx.drawable,DevCtx.gc ); pango_layout_set_text(UseFont, CurStr, CharLen); gdk_draw_layout_with_colors(DevCtx.drawable, DevCtx.GC, CurScreenX, Y, UseFont, Foreground, nil); //gdk_draw_rectangle(DevCtx.Drawable,DevCtx.GC,1,CurScreenX,Y,3,3); inc(CurScreenX,CurDx^); inc(CurDx); inc(CurStr,CharLen); dec(CurCount,CharLen); end; end else begin //just changed this branch pango_layout_set_text(UseFont, Str, Count); renderer := gdk_pango_renderer_get_default( gtk_widget_get_screen(DevCtx.DCWidget) ); gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable ( renderer, DevCtx.drawable); gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc ( renderer, DevCtx.GC); WidgetCont := pango_layout_get_context(UseFont); matrix.xx := 1.0; matrix.xy := 0.0; matrix.yx := 0.0; matrix.yy := 1.0; matrix.x0 := 0.0; matrix.y0 := 0.0; pango_matrix_translate (@matrix, X, Y); pango_matrix_rotate (@matrix, 285); //--this is the angle pango_context_set_matrix (WidgetCont, @matrix); pango_layout_context_changed (UseFont); pango_renderer_draw_layout (renderer, UseFont, X, Y); gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable ( renderer, nil); gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc ( renderer, nil); end; end; I could have done a patch but this code is just a proof of concept and needs to be integrated in the correct files (with I don't know with they are). So now we can have text rotate in Gtk2 also :) regards, Luis On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 11:43 +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:31:07 +0100 Luis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was going to implement rotating text on GTK2 but just noticed that
[lazarus] last svn version for use with fpc 2.0.4
Hi, as the subject says, what is the last compilable and flawlessly working svn version of lazarus for use with fpc 2.0.4? TIA, Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IDE, start once, open files
Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Mattias Gärtner ha escrit: Is there already a cross platform component for applications to check if it is already running and if yes then pass some commands to the already application? For example clicking on files in the file browser should not open a second instance, but tell the already running instance to open the files. There's uniqueinstance http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=92177release_id=471823 (The wiki is down, so I cannot give you the wiki link) *but* it doesn't work here under Linux (I could launch more that one instance of my program). Since I hadn't too much time to debug it, I slightly modified it to open and lock a file instead of using TSimpleIpc, but that makes it non-crossplatform. Since it's short I'm including it here, it could be extended to write the pid in the file, so another instance can somewhat contact the first one. It's working here both under win32 and linux (testraw and testcomponent programs). Using fpc 220, Ubuntu Feisty Faw, recent lazarus svn. The only missing feature under linux is the parameter list passing: Under windows the SimpleIpc mechanism is integrated with the win32 message loop so the IPCServer.OnMessage is called without any further intervention. Under unix, SimpleIpc is not integrated with any message loop so IPCServer.OnMessage is not called. There are to ways of doing under unix: - Hook in the LCL message loop to call PeakMessage - Create a thread that will call PeakMessage at a time interval In the below address you will find an updated component that hooks in Application.OnIdle to call PeakMessage. Its far from optimal because will prevent the use of OnIdle by the programmer and the parameter list will be peaked only when the app is idle/has focus. https://svn.bountysource.com/luipack/trunk/uniqueinstance If someone knows a way to hook in LCL message loop to be called more frequently than OnIdle or wants to implement a separeted thread i'm accepting patches. Luiz _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Another icons for Lazarus
See the sujet ! Regard, -- Laurent. My Web : http://wile64.neuf.fr/ French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php attachment: menu_abort_build.pngattachment: menu_build_fast.pngattachment: menu_build_file.pngattachment: menu_run_caret.pngattachment: menu_run_file.png
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On 11/09/2007, Lepidosteus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - smart tabs help a bit but then indent are of 8 per default instead of 5, and I can't find a way to change that. This is too much. And there is still some strange behaviour sometimes after realoding a doc (I couldn't find a reproducable one easily sorry). If you mean you can't find a place to change this in the editor settings, resize the dialog vertically. I found the same issue in the beginning and didn't know the tab setting was hidden (off screen). Graeme. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Another icons for Lazarus
Well... if you have time, do you also allow requests? The icons of the sqldb-components aren't really beautiful. And the components in the fp-web-package (lazarus/components/fp-web) are non-existent... ;) Joost Op dinsdag 11-09-2007 om 16:43 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef wile64: See the sujet ! Regard, -- Laurent. My Web : http://wile64.neuf.fr/ French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php -- _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
Hi: I've been talking with Jesus on the IRC about my next steps on this feature. Of course, a switch in the configuration between docked and undocked windows is a must. He suggested me to survey the main developers before doing more work. Right now the modified IDE works mostly as I wanted (as in eat your own dog food ;) but , is there any chance the patches could be integrated with futher work? And if so, which are the main requirements? Thanks. Greetings, -- Víctor R. Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Todos estos momentos se perderán http://rvr.blogalia.com/ | como lágrimas en la lluvia _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 11:38 +0200, Marc Weustink wrote: Luis Rodrigues wrote: Hi, Over the last weekend I've implemented text rotate in GTK2. I've implemented it in Gtk2WidgetSet.ExtTextOut. Since there is no way to define that the font is rotated, TGtk2WidgetSet.CreateFontIndirectEx .. lfEscapement can only be used to place the angle somewhere to ExtTextOut to use. The used functions (with gtk/pango version) pango_matrix_rotate - gtk2.6 pango_matrix_translate - gtk2.6 pango_context_set_matrix - gtk2.6 pango_renderer_draw_layout - pango1.8 gdk_pango_renderer_get_default - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc - gtk2.6 gtk2.6 and pango1.8 where released in Dec 2004 so I guess i can be implemented with no problems :) IIRC we already use some 2.6 funtions. According to gtk.org bindings page only gtk.2.4 is supported in pascal. Who can add this gtk2.6 functions to the bindings, should I make a patch against the version with is on fpc? How can the angle info be integrated into the lcl? Regards, Luís _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IDE, start once, open files
En/na Luiz Americo Pereira Camara ha escrit: It's working here both under win32 and linux (testraw and testcomponent programs). Using fpc 220, Ubuntu Feisty Faw, recent lazarus svn. I assure you that I could lauch various copies of my program. I used fpc 2.0.4, maybe that's the problem. I only used uniqueinstanceraw, since it's a daemon, not a gui app. Bye -- Luca _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IDE, start once, open files
Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Luiz Americo Pereira Camara ha escrit: It's working here both under win32 and linux (testraw and testcomponent programs). Using fpc 220, Ubuntu Feisty Faw, recent lazarus svn. I assure you that I could lauch various copies of my program. I used fpc 2.0.4, maybe that's the problem. I only used uniqueinstanceraw, since it's a daemon, not a gui app. Did you tested the testraw program that comes bundled with the package? Although it uses a Lazarus app, the pattern usage can be transported to a non gui app straightforward. Luiz _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] FPC 2.2 article made it onto OSNews.com
On 9/11/07, Giuliano Colla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ik ha scritto: On 9/11/07, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely done Joost! http://www4.osnews.com/story/18592/Cross-Platform_Development_with_Free_Pascal_2.2.0 ... or a shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/ywzyvr I have translated the article to Hebrew, if there are anyone that interested :) http://idkn.blogli.co.il/archives/69 I was interested, but I could make out only yet another blog in blogli, then I got lost That's the most important text ;) Maybe I need to refresh my hebrew a bit. :-) I'm willing to help you :) Your Hebrew is better then my Italian :) In any case, happy new year! Thank you, Happy new year to you and to everyone :) Giuliano Ido -- Giuliano Colla Still using C++ and Visual Studio? I'm using Object Pascal and Lazarus. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- http://ik.homelinux.org/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
On Tuesday 11 September 2007 07:47:03 Víctor R. Ruiz wrote: on my development environments, with little desktop space, working with many windows is not a happy experience. I also read some threads I also prefer everything docked in one window (in Kylix), even on a 24. This way nothing get partially covered and I can easily re-divide the space between Object Inspector and Editor (if still necessary on 1920x1200). when working on forms, I use kde/kwin to let the form stay on top of the editor till I am done with the form. would be nice to see this in lazarus _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
The single worst thing about the many windows IDE is this: I am coding, I need to look something up, I'm on my laptop so there isn't another screen, I open a browser. I want to go back to my code when I'm done - I have to click 8 or 10 things in the taskbar to get all the windows to the front. Usually you can get away with just minimizing the other program - but when there are 3 or 4... It is SO bad that I have gotten in the habit of using a dedicated virtual desktop just for Lazarus. I would definitely be in favor of a single window design. A.J. On 9/11/07, Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 11 September 2007 07:47:03 Víctor R. Ruiz wrote: on my development environments, with little desktop space, working with many windows is not a happy experience. I also read some threads I also prefer everything docked in one window (in Kylix), even on a 24. This way nothing get partially covered and I can easily re-divide the space between Object Inspector and Editor (if still necessary on 1920x1200). when working on forms, I use kde/kwin to let the form stay on top of the editor till I am done with the form. would be nice to see this in lazarus _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- A.J. Venter Director of Product Development Tel.: +27 21 554 5059 Fax: +27 21 413 2800 Outkast Solutions IT www.outkastsolutions.co.za A division of Global Pact Trading Pty Ltd. www.silentcoder.co.za - Blog scartoonz.silentcoder.co.za - ScarToonz webcomic _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IDE, start once, open files
En/na Luiz Americo Pereira Camara ha escrit: Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Luiz Americo Pereira Camara ha escrit: It's working here both under win32 and linux (testraw and testcomponent programs). Using fpc 220, Ubuntu Feisty Faw, recent lazarus svn. I assure you that I could lauch various copies of my program. I used fpc 2.0.4, maybe that's the problem. I only used uniqueinstanceraw, since it's a daemon, not a gui app. Did you tested the testraw program that comes bundled with the package? Although it uses a Lazarus app, the pattern usage can be transported to a non gui app straightforward. Yes, the testraw program works, but my program forks and using your unit it allows multiple instances, with mine only one. Here's a simple program that doesn't work (i.e it allows multiple instances) if it forks, but it works if left in the foreground (give it the -f parameter). This is with fpc 2.0.4. Wait a moment...now I tested with 2.2.0 and everything works as expected, so it was probably a 2.0.4 thing. Bye -- Luca program test; {$mode objfpc}{$H+} uses {$IFDEF UNIX}{$IFDEF UseCThreads} cthreads, {$ENDIF}{$ENDIF} Classes, sysutils, strutils, baseunix, { add your units here } uniqueinstanceraw; var terminated:boolean; procedure Init; var mypid:TPid; begin if InstanceRunning('testprogram') then begin Writeln('Already running!'); Halt(100); end; if paramstr(1)'-f' then begin mypid:=FpFork; if mypid0 then begin writeln('fork failed'); halt(mypid); end; if mypid0 then Halt(0); //parent end; Close(input); Close(stderr); Assign(stderr,'/dev/null'); Rewrite(stderr); Close(stdout); Assign(stdout,'/dev/null'); Rewrite(stdout); end; procedure CatchSignal(Sig : Longint; Info : PSigInfo; Context : PSigContext);cdecl; begin terminated:=true; end; procedure InitSignals; Var old,new : SigactionRec; begin New.sa_handler:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; fpSigaction(SIGQUIT,@New,@Old); fpSigaction(SIGTERM,@New,@Old); fpSigaction(SIGINT,@New,@Old); end; begin Init; InitSignals; while not terminated do sleep(100); end.
Re: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text
On 9/11/07, Luis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to gtk.org bindings page only gtk.2.4 is supported in pascal. Well, look again =) I sent an e-mail months ago telling them to update their page, and they finally answered it today, saying it was updated, and it's indeed updated. I know that fpc gtk bindings cover at least up to 2.8 -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 20:36 +0200, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: I know that fpc gtk bindings cover at least up to 2.8 Where are they? I could find them defined in FPC/packages/extra/gtk2 or FPC/packages/extra/gtk1 so I thought they weren't and defined the functions I needed. Luís _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
On 11/09/2007, A.J. Venter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I'm done - I have to click 8 or 10 things in the taskbar to get all the windows to the front. That is a very valid point. I haven't noticed it under Linux, because I use virtual desktops, but it is damn annoying when I switch to Windows. It is SO bad that I have gotten in the habit of using a dedicated virtual desktop just for Lazarus. I would definitely be in favor of a single window design. Someone else that thinks like I do. I actually use 4 virtual desktops. One for Lazarus, Firefox, Mozilla and a spare for things like VMWare. I guess my assumption was correcty. From all the replies it seems more people prefer MDI type interfaces. I guess the big IDE products got it right. ;) Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 11/09/2007, A.J. Venter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: when I'm done - I have to click 8 or 10 things in the taskbar to get all the windows to the front. That is a very valid point. I haven't noticed it under Linux, because I use virtual desktops, but it is damn annoying when I switch to Windows. It is SO bad that I have gotten in the habit of using a dedicated virtual desktop just for Lazarus. I would definitely be in favor of a single window design. Someone else that thinks like I do. I actually use 4 virtual desktops. One for Lazarus, Firefox, Mozilla and a spare for things like VMWare. I guess my assumption was correcty. From all the replies it seems more people prefer MDI type interfaces. I guess the big IDE products got it right. ;) Not really. The main point is that there should be only 1 window listed in the task list, and clicking that should simply raise all lazarus windows. How this is achieved (MDI/SDI) is not really relevant. The first thing I did when using Delphi 2005 and up was switching back to the 'old' layout. Each his preference. It would be best if lazarus offered you the choice instead of forcing you to use one model or the other. Open source is all about choice, after all... Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
On 11/09/2007, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each his preference. It would be best if lazarus offered you the choice instead of forcing you to use one model or the other. This would definitely be the best option, but then one question still remains. If Lazarus supports both MDI and SDI, which one will be the default? Do we following all the 'big' IDE's out there and use MDI by default, or do we continue with the original design using SDI? PS: I guess that question only becomes a issue once Lazarus actually supports both. :) Graeme. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Editor plugins (filters)
Hi, I want to try and implement the 'elastic tabstops' in Lazarus. See the link below for more details on 'elastic tabstops'. I have a few questions before I start. 1. Can I extend the editor behavior via a Lazarus addon package? Or must I edit the underlying SynEdit component directly. A optional addon package would be nice as a start, to test the feature before it (possibly) becomes a default feature. Like what I done with the Toolbar Editor package. 2. If it's not possible via a Lazarus addon package, what SynEdit unit should I be looking at? The Components/SynEdit directory contains a lot of files - though most seem related to syntax highlighting. 3. Could I hook into the CodeTools API to intercept the tab character and modify the text buffer like that. Sometimes I would need to modify lines before and after the current line being edited. For more info on what 'elastic tabstops' are: http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ Regards, - Graeme - _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: It is SO bad that I have gotten in the habit of using a dedicated virtual desktop just for Lazarus. I would definitely be in favor of a single window design. Someone else that thinks like I do. I actually use 4 virtual desktops. One for Lazarus, Firefox, Mozilla and a spare for things like VMWare. We are three. I also use one exclusive virtual desktop for Lazarus. Luiz _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Compilation failure
Compiling latest Lazarus SVN (FPC 2.2.0) fails (Lazarus.exe is generated) with: LazarusManager.pas(40,34) Fatal: Can't find unit LRemoteControl used by StartLazarus I can't locate the unit LRemoteControl anywhere. Where should it be? Stephano _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
On Tuesday 11 September 2007, Víctor R. Ruiz wrote: Hi: I know some programmers prefer Lazarus IDE the way it is. However, on my development environments, with little desktop space, working with many windows is not a happy experience. I also read some threads on the web forum requesting workspace integration, so I started digging in the Lazarus code. Thanks to Mattias' fix to the Notebook change of parent, I could get a working version of Lazarus on (almost) one window: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1012/1358706622_0ab97e91ef_o.png I really like it! One of the things I always disliked from Delphi was that it wasn't SDI (at least not up to v7, and never used the newer ones). Lazarus made it even worser by showing separately each window it opened in the taskbar, as if, for example, I could be interested in restoring the object inspector alone but leave the rest minimized, and also cluttering the taskbar to the point to make it unusable (unless perhaps you group the icons, wich I never do, so probably that's only my problem). I ended dedicating a virtual desktop to Lazarus alone so I never need to minimize it and it doesn't matter how much it clutters the taskbar... Also it doesn't minimize neither restore too gracefully, frequently many clicks are necessary to take every window to the desired state. Added to that, I never overlap none of the windows of the IDE, so having windows that can overlap is more of an inconvenience that anything else, and I end up with a rather messed layout where no window is in the place it was previously, so I need to hunt them around... I hope this ends up in SVN! Uff! That was cathartic... Thanks! Mario _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IDE, start once, open files
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:29:38 -0300 Luiz Americo Pereira Camara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luca Olivetti wrote: En/na Mattias Gärtner ha escrit: Is there already a cross platform component for applications to check if it is already running and if yes then pass some commands to the already application? For example clicking on files in the file browser should not open a second instance, but tell the already running instance to open the files. There's uniqueinstance http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=92177release_id=471823 (The wiki is down, so I cannot give you the wiki link) *but* it doesn't work here under Linux (I could launch more that one instance of my program). Since I hadn't too much time to debug it, I slightly modified it to open and lock a file instead of using TSimpleIpc, but that makes it non-crossplatform. Since it's short I'm including it here, it could be extended to write the pid in the file, so another instance can somewhat contact the first one. It's working here both under win32 and linux (testraw and testcomponent programs). Using fpc 220, Ubuntu Feisty Faw, recent lazarus svn. The only missing feature under linux is the parameter list passing: Under windows the SimpleIpc mechanism is integrated with the win32 message loop so the IPCServer.OnMessage is called without any further intervention. Under unix, SimpleIpc is not integrated with any message loop so IPCServer.OnMessage is not called. There are to ways of doing under unix: - Hook in the LCL message loop to call PeakMessage - Create a thread that will call PeakMessage at a time interval In the below address you will find an updated component that hooks in Application.OnIdle to call PeakMessage. Its far from optimal because will prevent the use of OnIdle by the programmer and the parameter list will be peaked only when the app is idle/has focus. Then use Application.AddOnIdleHandler instead. https://svn.bountysource.com/luipack/trunk/uniqueinstance If someone knows a way to hook in LCL message loop to be called more frequently than OnIdle or wants to implement a separeted thread i'm accepting patches. Contrary to windows there are far less messages under linux/gtk so the OnIdle is not called for long periods, when you work in another program. Unless you start a TTimer. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Compilation failure
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:10:40 +0300 Stephano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Compiling latest Lazarus SVN (FPC 2.2.0) fails (Lazarus.exe is generated) with: LazarusManager.pas(40,34) Fatal: Can't find unit LRemoteControl used by StartLazarus I can't locate the unit LRemoteControl anywhere. Where should it be? Fixed. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor plugins (filters)
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:35:46 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I want to try and implement the 'elastic tabstops' in Lazarus. See the link below for more details on 'elastic tabstops'. I have a few questions before I start. 1. Can I extend the editor behavior via a Lazarus addon package? Or must I edit the underlying SynEdit component directly. A optional addon package would be nice as a start, to test the feature before it (possibly) becomes a default feature. Like what I done with the Toolbar Editor package. Almost all the TabStops code is in synedit.pp. The IDEIntf lacks the ability to override this behaviour. 2. If it's not possible via a Lazarus addon package, what SynEdit unit should I be looking at? The Components/SynEdit directory contains a lot of files - though most seem related to syntax highlighting. 3. Could I hook into the CodeTools API to intercept the tab character and modify the text buffer like that. Sometimes I would need to modify lines before and after the current line being edited. The codetools do not much yet with tabs. Maybe when the simple beautifier is replaced with a real beautifier. For more info on what 'elastic tabstops' are: http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Another icons for Lazarus
wile64 пишет: See the sujet ! They are great (and cool acording to irc channel). But 3 things: 1. They should be in png (so previous xpm are not needed) 2. They must be 16*16 3. Toolbar images that have disabled state will not be changed before implementing of auto disabled drawing. So I will add them to repository, but without switching to them. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Editor issues
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:04:50 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/09/2007, Michael Van Canneyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Delphi 7 definitely doesn't do the described behaviour by default; Only if I press ctrl-j after the begin. (Nor would I want it to do this automatically) As far as I know that code template / code completion feature was introduced in Delphi 2005 onwards. Delphi 7 and earlier used Ctrl+J like Lazarus does. Invoking code completion with enter is also the way that vb works. (IMHO the vb is an example how a source completion function should *not* work, although I understand why MS did it in this case) Code templates can now be invoked on Enter and/or Space (see the Code Template options). I tried the begin+Enter template example and find it very annoying. To insert a new line I often use End+Enter. If the 'begin' is the last word, it now misunderstands it as template. It would be better to write a small macro function, that checks if an 'end' is missing and adds it only if needed. The ;=+Space to := works nice. Maybe I will add this template to the defaults. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text
Here is the patch to enable font rotation on gtk2. The angle used is the one defined in createfontindirect. Someone still needs to implement the necessary functions in the gtk bindings. Luis On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 18:39 +0100, Luis Rodrigues wrote: Hi, Over the last weekend I've implemented text rotate in GTK2. I've implemented it in Gtk2WidgetSet.ExtTextOut. Since there is no way to define that the font is rotated, TGtk2WidgetSet.CreateFontIndirectEx .. lfEscapement can only be used to place the angle somewhere to ExtTextOut to use. The used functions (with gtk/pango version) pango_matrix_rotate - gtk2.6 pango_matrix_translate - gtk2.6 pango_context_set_matrix - gtk2.6 pango_renderer_draw_layout - pango1.8 gdk_pango_renderer_get_default - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc - gtk2.6 gtk2.6 and pango1.8 where released in Dec 2004 so I guess i can be implemented with no problems :) I've defined in Gtk2int.pas TPangoMatrix = record xx: double; xy: double; yx: double; yy: double; x0: double; y0: double; end; PTPangoMatrix = ^TPangoMatrix; PPangoRenderer = pointer; PGdkPangoRenderer = pointer; procedure pango_font_description_set_gravity (desc:PPangoFontDescription;gravity:TPangoGravity); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_rotate(matrix: PPangoMatrix; degrees: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_translate(matrix: PPangoMatrix; tx, ty: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_scale (matrix: PPangoMatrix; scale_x, scale_y: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_context_set_matrix(context: PPangoContext; matrix: PPangoMatrix); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_renderer_draw_layout (renderer: PPangoRenderer; layout: PPangoLayout; x,y: Integer); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; function gdk_pango_renderer_get_default (screen: PGdkScreen): PPangoRenderer; cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; procedure gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable (gdk_renderer: PGdkPangoRenderer; drawable: PGdkDrawable); cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; procedure gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc (gdk_renderer: PGdkPangoRenderer; gc: PGdkGC); cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; and changed gtkwinapi.inc procedure DoTextOut(X,Y : Integer; Str: Pchar; CurCount: Integer); var DevCtx: TDeviceContext; CurScreenX: LongInt; CharLen: LongInt; WidgetCont: PPangoContext; matrix: TPangoMatrix; renderer: PPangoRenderer; screen: PGdkScreen; gc: PGdkGc; begin DevCtx:=TDeviceContext(DC); if (Dxnil) then begin CurScreenX:=X; while CurCount0 do begin CharLen:=UTF8CharacterLength(CurStr); //gdk_draw_glyphs(DevCtx.drawable,DevCtx.gc ); pango_layout_set_text(UseFont, CurStr, CharLen); gdk_draw_layout_with_colors(DevCtx.drawable, DevCtx.GC, CurScreenX, Y, UseFont, Foreground, nil); //gdk_draw_rectangle(DevCtx.Drawable,DevCtx.GC,1,CurScreenX,Y,3,3); inc(CurScreenX,CurDx^); inc(CurDx); inc(CurStr,CharLen); dec(CurCount,CharLen); end; end else begin //just changed this branch pango_layout_set_text(UseFont, Str, Count); renderer := gdk_pango_renderer_get_default( gtk_widget_get_screen(DevCtx.DCWidget) ); gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable ( renderer, DevCtx.drawable); gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc ( renderer, DevCtx.GC); WidgetCont := pango_layout_get_context(UseFont); matrix.xx := 1.0; matrix.xy := 0.0; matrix.yx := 0.0; matrix.yy := 1.0; matrix.x0 := 0.0; matrix.y0 := 0.0; pango_matrix_translate (@matrix, X, Y); pango_matrix_rotate (@matrix, 285); //--this is the angle pango_context_set_matrix (WidgetCont, @matrix); pango_layout_context_changed (UseFont); pango_renderer_draw_layout (renderer, UseFont, X, Y); gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable ( renderer, nil); gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc ( renderer, nil); end; end; I could have done a patch but this code is just a proof of concept and needs to be integrated in the correct files (with I don't know with they are). So now we can have text rotate in Gtk2 also :) regards, Luis On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 11:43 +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:31:07 +0100 Luis Rodrigues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I was going to implement rotating text on GTK2 but just noticed that pango_font_description_set_gravity, PangoGravity, etc are not defined on FreePascal Pango bindings. I tried to find on GTK website and on FPC (http://www.freepascal.org/packages/gtk.html) but had no luke :( Is anyone actively working on that?
Re: [lazarus] GTK Rotated text
Too much sleep made me send the wrong patch. Sorry. I don't know how the change in drawing function affects the rest of the lcl code, but it should work with no probs. Luis On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 04:47 +0100, Luis Rodrigues wrote: Here is the patch to enable font rotation on gtk2. The angle used is the one defined in createfontindirect. Someone still needs to implement the necessary functions in the gtk bindings. Luis On Mon, 2007-09-10 at 18:39 +0100, Luis Rodrigues wrote: Hi, Over the last weekend I've implemented text rotate in GTK2. I've implemented it in Gtk2WidgetSet.ExtTextOut. Since there is no way to define that the font is rotated, TGtk2WidgetSet.CreateFontIndirectEx .. lfEscapement can only be used to place the angle somewhere to ExtTextOut to use. The used functions (with gtk/pango version) pango_matrix_rotate - gtk2.6 pango_matrix_translate - gtk2.6 pango_context_set_matrix - gtk2.6 pango_renderer_draw_layout - pango1.8 gdk_pango_renderer_get_default - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable - gtk2.6 gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc - gtk2.6 gtk2.6 and pango1.8 where released in Dec 2004 so I guess i can be implemented with no problems :) I've defined in Gtk2int.pas TPangoMatrix = record xx: double; xy: double; yx: double; yy: double; x0: double; y0: double; end; PTPangoMatrix = ^TPangoMatrix; PPangoRenderer = pointer; PGdkPangoRenderer = pointer; procedure pango_font_description_set_gravity (desc:PPangoFontDescription;gravity:TPangoGravity); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_rotate(matrix: PPangoMatrix; degrees: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_translate(matrix: PPangoMatrix; tx, ty: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_matrix_scale (matrix: PPangoMatrix; scale_x, scale_y: double); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_context_set_matrix(context: PPangoContext; matrix: PPangoMatrix); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; procedure pango_renderer_draw_layout (renderer: PPangoRenderer; layout: PPangoLayout; x,y: Integer); cdecl; external 'libpango-1.0.so.0'; function gdk_pango_renderer_get_default (screen: PGdkScreen): PPangoRenderer; cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; procedure gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable (gdk_renderer: PGdkPangoRenderer; drawable: PGdkDrawable); cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; procedure gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc (gdk_renderer: PGdkPangoRenderer; gc: PGdkGC); cdecl; external 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so'; and changed gtkwinapi.inc procedure DoTextOut(X,Y : Integer; Str: Pchar; CurCount: Integer); var DevCtx: TDeviceContext; CurScreenX: LongInt; CharLen: LongInt; WidgetCont: PPangoContext; matrix: TPangoMatrix; renderer: PPangoRenderer; screen: PGdkScreen; gc: PGdkGc; begin DevCtx:=TDeviceContext(DC); if (Dxnil) then begin CurScreenX:=X; while CurCount0 do begin CharLen:=UTF8CharacterLength(CurStr); //gdk_draw_glyphs(DevCtx.drawable,DevCtx.gc ); pango_layout_set_text(UseFont, CurStr, CharLen); gdk_draw_layout_with_colors(DevCtx.drawable, DevCtx.GC, CurScreenX, Y, UseFont, Foreground, nil); //gdk_draw_rectangle(DevCtx.Drawable,DevCtx.GC,1,CurScreenX,Y,3,3); inc(CurScreenX,CurDx^); inc(CurDx); inc(CurStr,CharLen); dec(CurCount,CharLen); end; end else begin //just changed this branch pango_layout_set_text(UseFont, Str, Count); renderer := gdk_pango_renderer_get_default( gtk_widget_get_screen(DevCtx.DCWidget) ); gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable ( renderer, DevCtx.drawable); gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc ( renderer, DevCtx.GC); WidgetCont := pango_layout_get_context(UseFont); matrix.xx := 1.0; matrix.xy := 0.0; matrix.yx := 0.0; matrix.yy := 1.0; matrix.x0 := 0.0; matrix.y0 := 0.0; pango_matrix_translate (@matrix, X, Y); pango_matrix_rotate (@matrix, 285); //--this is the angle pango_context_set_matrix (WidgetCont, @matrix); pango_layout_context_changed (UseFont); pango_renderer_draw_layout (renderer, UseFont, X, Y); gdk_pango_renderer_set_drawable ( renderer, nil); gdk_pango_renderer_set_gc ( renderer, nil); end; end; I could have done a patch but this code is just a proof of concept and needs to be integrated in the correct files (with I don't know with they are). So now we can have text rotate in Gtk2 also :) regards, Luis On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 11:43 +0200, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 21:31:07 +0100 Luis Rodrigues [EMAIL
Re: Lazarus on one window (aka SDI)
Hi: In lazarus-svn-r11993-sdi-2.diff.gz I have published some changes to yesterday code so the window docking is now optional (variable DockedIDE at main, I will replace this with a proper xml reading). Next step will be to add support to do a hot swapping. Greetings, -- Víctor R. Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Todos estos momentos se perderán http://rvr.blogalia.com/ | como lágrimas en la lluvia _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives