Re: [lazarus] Sockets and Lazarus + WinCE
Daniel Rincón García ha scritto: Can I use the *sockets* components to make an application for WinCE? Regards. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 17.44 Are you referring to the external LNet component? If yes, LNet works perfectly on WinCE in all it's parts. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Google is creating a revolution in the mobile equipment market, their new OS (Android) is based on Linux and is OpenSource, they are planning to support a wide range of devices and are willing to pay lot's of money to people making apps for the new OS. I wonder if Lazarus and FPC could have an impact here :) Google Announces $10 Million Android Developer Challenge The $10 million total in the Android Developer Challenge will be distributed equally between the Android Developer Challenge I and II. http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20071112_android_challenge.html http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/11/14/google.cell.prize.ap/index.html http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xhtml?story_id=023001CPJZOA _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus]
Vasily I. Volchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll change it (but it is a bad idea to save text files only in utf-8 in linux, but in ansi in windows, besides, utf8 is very rarely used in final Russian files, when for internal functions it is well). Lazarus-ccr may be a good place (it is in one of my sf.net projects, but it is a little part). Why not use UTF8 everywhere, it's supported even by notepad and you can write in multiple languages in the same document, i wonder if there is a great size increase when writing cyrilic. Lazarus itself will use UTF8 everywhere even on windows. Razvan _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Sockets and Lazarus + WinCE
On Nov 22, 2007 12:32 AM, Daniel Rincón García [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I use the sockets components to make an application for WinCE? LNet, Indy, Synapse, i think all of them work on WinCE and most platforms, use the one which is best for you :) Razvan _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
En/na Razvan Adrian Bogdan ha escrit: Google is creating a revolution in the mobile equipment market, their new OS (Android) is based on Linux and is OpenSource, they are planning to support a wide range of devices and are willing to pay lot's of money to people making apps for the new OS. I wonder if Lazarus and FPC could have an impact here :) Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. Bye -- Luca _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Hi: 2007/11/22, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. Even worse, Google uses its own virtual machine. Greetings, -- Víctor R. Ruiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - Todos estos momentos se perderán http://rvr.blogalia.com/ | como lágrimas en la lluvia _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Well object pascal lies between java and c++. android uses the eclipse ide. but antlr has also an eclipse plugin. object pascal and java grammars are available for antlr. so we can bridge the gap between java and object pascal. regards Razvan Adrian Bogdan wrote: Google is creating a revolution in the mobile equipment market, their new OS (Android) is based on Linux and is OpenSource, they are planning to support a wide range of devices and are willing to pay lot's of money to people making apps for the new OS. I wonder if Lazarus and FPC could have an impact here :) Google Announces $10 Million Android Developer Challenge The $10 million total in the Android Developer Challenge will be distributed equally between the Android Developer Challenge I and II. http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/20071112_android_challenge.html http://edition.cnn.com/2007/TECH/ptech/11/14/google.cell.prize.ap/index.html http://www.toptechnews.com/story.xhtml?story_id=023001CPJZOA _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Víctor R. Ruiz wrote: Hi: 2007/11/22, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. Well I do hava android running on my pc as well as lazarus. with a objesct pascal to java translator it must be possible. regards Even worse, Google uses its own virtual machine. Greetings, _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Víctor R. Ruiz пишет: Hi: 2007/11/22, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. Even worse, Google uses its own virtual machine. Lets teach fpc to generate java byte code for that machine :) Best regards, Paul Ishenin. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Nov 22, 2007 11:36 AM, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. There must be a way to run apps natively or it's just another java OS ... Razvan _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
En/na Paul Ishenin ha escrit: Víctor R. Ruiz пишет: Hi: 2007/11/22, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. Even worse, Google uses its own virtual machine. Lets teach fpc to generate java byte code for that machine :) Let's[*] teach it to generate arm eabi code, so we can write apps for maemo instead ;-) [*] well, that us should be a you since I don't have the slightest idea on how to do it ;-) Bye -- Luca _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Nov 21, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Bogusław Brandys wrote: Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I use SVn with my projects in lazarus. I added the file project.lpi. This file is sent nearly at each commit and always provides conflicts with others team members. However I believe the file is needed due to there are some settings for the project. Is there a way to avoid this ? Do you store session information in a different file (.lps). Don't add this file to svn. See project options - Session. Another problem i face is that when you open a project saved in Win32 in a Linux machine the lpi file is changed because of the PathDelim even if you don't change the project options. The inverse (Linux win32) is also true. This leads to unnecessary file commits. From some time i always check the changes in lpi files to see if worth commiting Luiz What if inside project would be used only one PathDelim and IDE resolve it into correct one on each platform ? Can Ressources files be safely removed from a svn repository for Lazarus Projects ? -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Nov 21, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Bogusław Brandys wrote: Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I use SVn with my projects in lazarus. I added the file project.lpi. This file is sent nearly at each commit and always provides conflicts with others team members. However I believe the file is needed due to there are some settings for the project. Is there a way to avoid this ? Do you store session information in a different file (.lps). Don't add this file to svn. See project options - Session. Another problem i face is that when you open a project saved in Win32 in a Linux machine the lpi file is changed because of the PathDelim even if you don't change the project options. The inverse (Linux win32) is also true. This leads to unnecessary file commits. From some time i always check the changes in lpi files to see if worth commiting Luiz What if inside project would be used only one PathDelim and IDE resolve it into correct one on each platform ? Anymore, is the session for projects works well under Windows ? Under Windows the lpr file is always modified :( (no problems under Linux) -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:52:34PM +0700, Paul Ishenin wrote: 2007/11/22, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. Even worse, Google uses its own virtual machine. Lets teach fpc to generate java byte code for that machine :) Have a look at http://www.freepascal.org/faq.html#dotnet specially the last paragraph. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Nov 22, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Damien Gerard wrote: On Nov 21, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Bogusław Brandys wrote: Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I use SVn with my projects in lazarus. I added the file project.lpi. This file is sent nearly at each commit and always provides conflicts with others team members. However I believe the file is needed due to there are some settings for the project. Is there a way to avoid this ? Do you store session information in a different file (.lps). Don't add this file to svn. See project options - Session. Another problem i face is that when you open a project saved in Win32 in a Linux machine the lpi file is changed because of the PathDelim even if you don't change the project options. The inverse (Linux win32) is also true. This leads to unnecessary file commits. From some time i always check the changes in lpi files to see if worth commiting Luiz What if inside project would be used only one PathDelim and IDE resolve it into correct one on each platform ? Anymore, is the session for projects works well under Windows ? Under Windows the lpr file is always modified :( (no problems under Linux) May be it is related to the slashes. -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Latest reviosn fails on Windows
On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Damien Gerard wrote: On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:13 AM, Jeff Steinkamp wrote: C:\lazarusmake makefile:3434: warning: overriding commands for target `examples' makefile:3394: warning: ignoring old commands for target `examples' make -C lcl all make[1]: Entering directory `C:/lazarus/lcl' C:/lazarus/fpc/bin/i386-win32/rm.exe -f units/i386-win32/ alllclunits.ppu C:/lazarus/fpc/bin/i386-win32/ppc386.exe -gl -Fu. -Fuforms - Fuwidgetset -Fiinclu de -FE. -FUunits/i386-win32 -di386 alllclunits.pp Free Pascal Compiler version 2.2.0 [2007/09/09] for i386 Copyright (c) 1993-2007 by Florian Klaempfl Target OS: Win32 for i386 Compiling alllclunits.pp alllclunits.pp(31,1) Fatal: Can't find unit System used by AllLCLUnits Fatal: Compilation aborted make[1]: *** [alllclunits.ppu] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/lazarus/lcl' make: *** [lcl] Error 2 C:\lazarus it might be intresting to note that I have a similar problem on my Linux Box with GTK2 and gettng the following on that box. gtkwidgetset.inc(618,48) Error identifer not found panjo_layout_set_font_description With the lastest snapshot under Windows (Lazarus-0.9.25- fpc-2.2.1-20071121-win32.exe) I have the following error : Ressource TIFileDataProvider not found. The error disappears with the snapshots 20071122. A screenshot is available if needed. -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:25:54 +0100 Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 21, 2007, at 6:16 PM, Bogusław Brandys wrote: Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: I use SVn with my projects in lazarus. I added the file project.lpi. This file is sent nearly at each commit and always provides conflicts with others team members. However I believe the file is needed due to there are some settings for the project. Is there a way to avoid this ? Do you store session information in a different file (.lps). Don't add this file to svn. See project options - Session. Another problem i face is that when you open a project saved in Win32 in a Linux machine the lpi file is changed because of the PathDelim even if you don't change the project options. The inverse (Linux win32) is also true. This leads to unnecessary file commits. From some time i always check the changes in lpi files to see if worth commiting Luiz What if inside project would be used only one PathDelim and IDE resolve it into correct one on each platform ? Can Ressources files be safely removed from a svn repository for Lazarus Projects ? .lfm files: no .lrs files: it depends. It is recommended to keep them. .res files: I don't know. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
En/na Mattias Gaertner ha escrit: .lfm files: no .lrs files: it depends. It is recommended to keep them. Why? Cannot they be automatically generated from the lfm? Bye -- Luca _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
Mattias Gaertner schreef: .res files: I don't know. I think they can be removed. Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:51:36 +0100 Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En/na Mattias Gaertner ha escrit: .lfm files: no .lrs files: it depends. It is recommended to keep them. Why? Cannot they be automatically generated from the lfm? They are. But only if the units are in the project/package and when built by the IDE or lazbuild. If you forget to add a unit or if you want to build on command line you get into troubles. And because the lrs are normally somewhat smaller than the lfm it is not worth the trouble. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:51:36 +0100 Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En/na Mattias Gaertner ha escrit: .lfm files: no .lrs files: it depends. It is recommended to keep them. Why? Cannot they be automatically generated from the lfm? And I forgot: lrs files are normally in the source directories, which can be readonly, so the IDE can not create them. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Sockets and Lazarus + WinCE
The standard sockets copile under WinCE? 2007/11/22, Razvan Adrian Bogdan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 22, 2007 12:32 AM, Daniel Rincón García [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can I use the sockets components to make an application for WinCE? LNet, Indy, Synapse, i think all of them work on WinCE and most platforms, use the one which is best for you :) Razvan _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:52:34PM +0700, Paul Ishenin wrote: 2007/11/22, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. Even worse, Google uses its own virtual machine. Lets teach fpc to generate java byte code for that machine :) Have a look at http://www.freepascal.org/faq.html#dotnet specially the last paragraph. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives Well the last paragraph is Palmos . It simply dead. But with android you can earn money. Thats the big difference. regards _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On 22/11/2007, willem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marco van de Voort wrote: Have a look at http://www.freepascal.org/faq.html#dotnet specially the last paragraph. Well the last paragraph is Palmos . It simply dead. But with android you can earn money. Thats the big difference. no, the last paragraph of the What about .NET? entry: These problems are pretty much similar for the Java (bytecode) too. One has to mutilate the language, and rewrite the libraries from scratch on the base libraries of the target (Java/.NET). Such an attempt would have little synergy with the FPC project as it is today. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Have a look at http://www.freepascal.org/faq.html#dotnet specially the last paragraph. Well the last paragraph is Palmos . It simply dead. But with android you can earn money. Thats the big difference. I think he mean last paragraph of DOT NET part, the link is not opening on that part, look at #dotnet []s Cesar Romero _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Re: [lazarus]
Why not? Course, it is supported. But... At first, double size increasing makes
it sensitive (especially in mob.phones). But it is the least problem.
Traditionally one symbol is considered as 1 byte (it is more than enough for
latin and cyrillic), it makes many incompartibilities with a good old tested
software (esp. on Windows). Then, looking at a UTF file with even DOS editor
(dos has different encoding, it is a problem, but it is solved) will result in
nonsense. Then, looking through executable (may be spoiled, may be very old)
for a Russian text (or may be just patching .mo file directly) for localized
text in UTF8 is... Say it, difficult.
And now disadvantages of UTF-8 text files.
1. 1-byte text is stable for both byte errors and byte losses (just spoiled
byte will be a spoiled char). Unicode (2 or 4 byte) is stable for byte
spoilage. Large part of UTF-8 file can be spoiled both with byte loss and byte
spoilage. Besides, spoiled file (or partially text-partially-binary files) can
break working with some soft (like iconv).
2. Why should we lose space twice because of UTF-8? It is even more
inconvenient for Russians than using 2-byte unicode for Americans (and, at
last, analysing UTF-8 by hand is more difficult than doing such with koi8-r,
cp1251 or cp866).
And, anyway, neither delphi nor kylix uses UTF8 (kylix uses unicode in forms).
This can make problems with porting.
So, the most reasonable thing is to give a choice for user, what encoding to
use. The easiest way is to save all .pas files from SynEdit in system encoding,
and to translate it to UTF-8 while loading. More complex ideas will include
encoding name in project or even file (may be if the first line is
{enc=cp1251} the file should be translated from that encoding to utf8 while
loading).
At last, the fact that Lazarus compiled for windows, uses ansi (cp1251) while
lazarus for linux uses UTF-8 is completely inacceptible.
So, I think, it
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Vasily I. Volchenko schreef: And now disadvantages of UTF-8 text files. 1. 1-byte text is stable for both byte errors and byte losses (just spoiled byte will be a spoiled char). Unicode (2 or 4 byte) is stable for byte spoilage. Large part of UTF-8 file can be spoiled both with byte loss and byte spoilage. Besides, spoiled file (or partially text-partially-binary files) can break working with some soft (like iconv). UTF8 can be resynced. So if you loose one char (partially) software can detect it and restart at the next char. At last, the fact that Lazarus compiled for windows, uses ansi (cp1251) while lazarus for linux uses UTF-8 is completely inacceptible. This will change before 0.9.26. Lazarus will use UTF8 on windows too. Vincent P.S. Please remove the reply too header _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:51:36 +0100 Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En/na Mattias Gaertner ha escrit: .lfm files: no .lrs files: it depends. It is recommended to keep them. Why? Cannot they be automatically generated from the lfm? And I forgot: lrs files are normally in the source directories, which can be readonly, so the IDE can not create them. In subversion case this is not valid since you assume its writeable. I had some headaches after adding lrs to svn repositories. Definitely i don't add lrs and lps files to my svn repositories. I created a bug report about the lpi file changes: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=10238 Luiz _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Nov 22, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:51:36 +0100 Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En/na Mattias Gaertner ha escrit: .lfm files: no .lrs files: it depends. It is recommended to keep them. Why? Cannot they be automatically generated from the lfm? And I forgot: lrs files are normally in the source directories, which can be readonly, so the IDE can not create them. In subversion case this is not valid since you assume its writeable. I had some headaches after adding lrs to svn repositories. Definitely i don't add lrs and lps files to my svn repositories. I agree with lps due to it contains about the session. So it should be added into a repository. Like .res and now I have nice commits. And I don't have any problems with lrs. What's wrong with them ? I created a bug report about the lpi file changes: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=10238 Luiz -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 11:53:52AM +0200, Razvan Adrian Bogdan wrote: On Nov 22, 2007 11:36 AM, Luca Olivetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Considering that application for android have to be written in java I somewhat doubt it. There must be a way to run apps natively or it's just another java OS ... Not JVM, it's dahzlik bytecode or so. But JVM can be compiled to this bytecode, licensing related. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
Hello, I know people here are mainly interested in Pascal but I thought I can share some information about my C++ project that is based on the FreePascal library code. I have attempted to create a cross platform C++ library called wxVCL; this C++ library for wxWidgets is equivalent to that of Pascal RTL. So far I have converted some 600 functions from System, Sysutils, StrUtils and DateUtils. Some of the code is a direct Pascal conversion and some are written using the wxWidgets classes. Source code is released with the same license as FreePascal RTL. You can find the source at: http://wxvcl.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wxvcl/cpp/ and more information about the code at http://twinforms.com/wxvcl.htm . -Guru Kathiresan http://twinforms.com/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:41:44AM +0100, willem wrote: Well object pascal lies between java and c++. It lies at C++ level. android uses the eclipse ide. but antlr has also an eclipse plugin. object pascal and java grammars are available for antlr. so we can bridge the gap between java and object pascal. What are you actually trying to achieve ? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
Damien Gerard wrote: I had some headaches after adding lrs to svn repositories. Definitely i don't add lrs and lps files to my svn repositories. I agree with lps due to it contains about the session. So it should be added into a repository. Like .res and now I have nice commits. And I don't have any problems with lrs. If you are fine keeping them so there's no need to change. What's wrong with them ? I ended in a situation where i got streaming exceptions. I don't know how to reproduce it. Luiz _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Tips for lazarus projects and Subversion
On Nov 22, 2007, at 2:11 PM, Luiz Americo Pereira Camara wrote: Damien Gerard wrote: I had some headaches after adding lrs to svn repositories. Definitely i don't add lrs and lps files to my svn repositories. I agree with lps due to it contains about the session. So it should be added into a repository. Like .res and now I have nice commits. And I don't have any problems with lrs. If you are fine keeping them so there's no need to change. What's wrong with them ? I ended in a situation where i got streaming exceptions. I don't know how to reproduce it. With Images :) But I think there are bugs report for it and I haven't seen them for a few weeks. Luiz -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:41:44AM +0100, willem wrote: Well object pascal lies between java and c++. It lies at C++ level. android uses the eclipse ide. but antlr has also an eclipse plugin. object pascal and java grammars are available for antlr. so we can bridge the gap between java and object pascal. What are you actually trying to achieve ? the google android project has a 10 000 000 dollar budget. and if the lazarus gets a 50 000 dollar award for the adroid project then we can make the lazarus at first 100 %compatible with delphi. I applieed for an account on sourceforge because i want to start up an android lazarus project and the first i will do is the java and delphi grammar to check on lazarus development list then the developers can add improvements to the delphi grammer specification object pascal is the middle man between c++ and java and the developper of c++ said that c++ needs to be improved but there is already a solution it is object pascal. regards _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
I would at first doubt one c++ programmer would say that. But who did? :-) Sérgio Marcelo willem escreveu: and the developper of c++ said that c++ needs to be improved but there is already a solution it is object pascal. regards _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:58:56 -0800 Guru Kathiresan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I know people here are mainly interested in Pascal Correct and have a nice day. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
* Guru Kathiresan wrote, On 22/11/07 12:58: Hello, I know people here are mainly interested in Pascal but I thought I can share some information about my C++ project that is based on the FreePascal library code. I have attempted to create a cross platform C++ library called wxVCL; this C++ library for wxWidgets is equivalent to that of Pascal RTL. So far I have converted some 600 functions from System, Sysutils, StrUtils and DateUtils. Some of the code is a direct Pascal conversion and some are written using the wxWidgets classes. Source code is released with the same license as FreePascal RTL. You can find the source at: http://wxvcl.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/wxvcl/cpp/ and more information about the code at http://twinforms.com/wxvcl.htm . Thanks for this. Have you heard of a project called ALMA (on freshmeat) which may (or may not) help you with this. Sam _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus]
UTF8 can be resynced. So if you loose one char (partially) software can detect it and restart at the next char. Can be. But not all times and not all the software. At last, the fact that Lazarus compiled for windows, uses ansi (cp1251) while lazarus for linux uses UTF-8 is completely inacceptible. This will change before 0.9.26. Lazarus will use UTF8 on windows too. Looks good. But anyway, I think, the choice of saving (and only saving) encoding should be left for the end user. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Damien Gerard wrote: On Nov 22, 2007, at 2:42 PM, willem wrote: Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:41:44AM +0100, willem wrote: Well object pascal lies between java and c++. It lies at C++ level. android uses the eclipse ide. but antlr has also an eclipse plugin. object pascal and java grammars are available for antlr. so we can bridge the gap between java and object pascal. What are you actually trying to achieve ? the google android project has a 10 000 000 dollar budget. and if the lazarus gets a 50 000 dollar award for the adroid project then we can make the lazarus at first 100 %compatible with delphi. I applieed for an account on sourceforge because i want to start up an android lazarus project and the first i will do is the java and delphi grammar to check on lazarus development list then the developers can add improvements to the delphi grammer specification object pascal is the middle man between c++ and java and the developper of c++ said that c++ needs to be improved but there is already a solution it is object pascal. But in C++ there are templates and I want my templates in C++ :) You have them in Free Pascal as well. Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Damien Gerard wrote: On Nov 22, 2007, at 2:42 PM, willem wrote: Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:41:44AM +0100, willem wrote: Well object pascal lies between java and c++. It lies at C++ level. android uses the eclipse ide. but antlr has also an eclipse plugin. object pascal and java grammars are available for antlr. so we can bridge the gap between java and object pascal. What are you actually trying to achieve ? the google android project has a 10 000 000 dollar budget. and if the lazarus gets a 50 000 dollar award for the adroid project then we can make the lazarus at first 100 %compatible with delphi. I applieed for an account on sourceforge because i want to start up an android lazarus project and the first i will do is the java and delphi grammar to check on lazarus development list then the developers can add improvements to the delphi grammer specification object pascal is the middle man between c++ and java and the developper of c++ said that c++ needs to be improved but there is already a solution it is object pascal. But in C++ there are templates and I want my templates in C++ :) You have them in Free Pascal as well. Generics yes but not templates http://www.freepascal.org/docs-html/ref/refch8.html#x79-860008 Michael. -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] LCL in Dll
I'd try to compile Zeos Library in a Dll using Lazarus, it comiples, but can't be loaded at least using LoadLibrary in Windows, resulting in an Unknown Run-Time error 202. Reading in old forums, I found that isn't possible to create forms in dlls because of LCL problems, a bug report was created regarding this issue (check this: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=7181 ), but it seems to be frozen. My think my problem is related to that bug, because I can create the dll using straight FPC from command line and it works correctly. Does anyone addressed the issue? any positive feedback? Leonardo. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit
Guadagnini David wrote: In attach You can found my TMaskEdit component that work well in Windows At first glance this looks like a clean implementation without copied code (can sombody this verify agains cppbuilder implementations) Some remarks about the code: Try to avoid Arguments and Methods prefixed with _ For Aguments there is no problem in prefixing them with A, for property getters there is nothing wrong with prefixing them with Get. In your case, GetIsMask makes perfectly clear that it reads the IsMasked property. Variable names like X1, X2, XX1, XX2 Please name them after there use: GetSel(X1, X2) could also be coded like: GetSel(SelStart, SelLength) (or was it SelStop) You see... with naming them it will be clear. Why using the C approach for naming all kinds is Char_xxx (as char). Pascal has a perfect suitable type for this : enum. No cludging winth #nn and mak sure they are unique etc. in CanInsertChar, why do you use short stings and why assigning S := FMask instead of accessing Fmask. Anyway, I think that after some cleanup, this will be usable code. and in Linux but have a little bug: the message WM_PAST seems that is never invoked. I tried to override the procedure PasteFromClipboard of the component TCustomEdit but is the same. Some idea? Pasting is handled by the widget itself. unlike in windows, I think a paste isn't redirected yout marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit
Guadagnini David wrote: Try to avoid Arguments and Methods prefixed with _ For Aguments there is no problem in prefixing them with A, for property getters there is nothing wrong with prefixing them with Get. In your case, GetIsMask makes perfectly clear that it reads the IsMasked property. Ok! Variable names like X1, X2, XX1, XX2 Please name them after there use: GetSel(X1, X2) could also be coded like: GetSel(SelStart, SelLength) (or was it SelStop) You see... with naming them it will be clear. Ok! Question... SelStart and SelStop are present in TCustomEdit controls? I mean them as variable names. If they are present as properties use StartSel/StopSel for instance. Why using the C approach for naming all kinds is Char_xxx (as char). Pascal has a perfect suitable type for this : enum. No cludging winth #nn and mak sure they are unique etc. For me it is easier to administer. But if you want I change it They are clearer, and can be checked better if they are in range for instance. (who will check if #42 is valid in your case) What do you mean by administer ? declaring like: TmyEnum = (Enumone, enumTwo...); is imo easier than: TmyEnum_EnumOne = 1; TmyEnum_EnumOne = 2; ... if you man the FMask array ? Delcalre it like FMask: array of TmyEnum; in CanInsertChar, why do you use short stings and why assigning S := FMask instead of accessing Fmask. Because in Delphi if I use String can not access to a single char with S[] and I must trasform String in ShortString or in PChar or in Array Of Char ??? Don't know about your version of delphi, but all the versions I know (D1..D7), you can access SomeString[i] as character Pasting is handled by the widget itself. unlike in windows, I think a paste isn't redirected yout The strange thing is that the procedure PasteFromClipboard not be invoked Paste from clipboard is an action. The developer tells the control to get the contents of the clipboard (like it was pasted by the user) Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] LCL in Dll
Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: I'd try to compile Zeos Library in a Dll using Lazarus, it comiples, but can't be loaded at least using LoadLibrary in Windows, resulting in an Unknown Run-Time error 202. Reading in old forums, I found that isn't possible to create forms in dlls because of LCL problems, a bug report was created regarding this issue (check this: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=7181 ), but it seems to be frozen. Not frozen, but the target is set to post 1.0. That means that at least the developers won't adress it now. My think my problem is related to that bug, because I can create the dll using straight FPC from command line and it works correctly. Creating dlls is not the problem, but anything TAppliation related cannot be used in a dll. (delphi uses some hhoks to connect the TAppliation instance in the dll to the one in the mainapp) Does anyone addressed the issue? any positive feedback? Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 02:42:58PM +0100, willem wrote: Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:41:44AM +0100, willem wrote: Well object pascal lies between java and c++. It lies at C++ level. android uses the eclipse ide. but antlr has also an eclipse plugin. object pascal and java grammars are available for antlr. so we can bridge the gap between java and object pascal. What are you actually trying to achieve ? the google android project has a 10 000 000 dollar budget. and if the lazarus gets a 50 000 dollar award for the adroid project Big if. Very big _if_. then we can make the lazarus at first 100 %compatible with delphi. Well, that needs mainly time, not money. And the time on android project can be better spent directly on Lazarus. I applieed for an account on sourceforge because i want to start up an android lazarus project and the first i will do is the java and delphi grammar to check Why do you need a Java grammar at all? Afaik there is no Delphi grammar that really describes the language. Sure, there are pretty printers, but nothing that can handle arbitrary code. Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at least have an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to a managed version. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] TMaskEdit
Try to avoid Arguments and Methods prefixed with _ For Aguments there is no problem in prefixing them with A, for property getters there is nothing wrong with prefixing them with Get. In your case, GetIsMask makes perfectly clear that it reads the IsMasked property. Ok! Variable names like X1, X2, XX1, XX2 Please name them after there use: GetSel(X1, X2) could also be coded like: GetSel(SelStart, SelLength) (or was it SelStop) You see... with naming them it will be clear. Ok! Question... SelStart and SelStop are present in TCustomEdit controls? Why using the C approach for naming all kinds is Char_xxx (as char). Pascal has a perfect suitable type for this : enum. No cludging winth #nn and mak sure they are unique etc. For me it is easier to administer. But if you want I change it in CanInsertChar, why do you use short stings and why assigning S := FMask instead of accessing Fmask. Because in Delphi if I use String can not access to a single char with S[] and I must trasform String in ShortString or in PChar or in Array Of Char Pasting is handled by the widget itself. unlike in windows, I think a paste isn't redirected yout The strange thing is that the procedure PasteFromClipboard not be invoked begin:vcard fn:David Guadagnini n:Guadagnini;David org:Biotecnica Instruments S.p.A.;RD adr:;;Via Licenza 18;Roma;RM;00133;Italy email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Software architet tel;work:+39064112616 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [lazarus] LCL in Dll
Marc Weustink escribió: Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: Creating dlls is not the problem, but anything TAppliation related cannot be used in a dll. (delphi uses some hhoks to connect the TAppliation instance in the dll to the one in the mainapp) That means Zeos uses LCL?, I still don't understand why the dll works correctly by compiling in FPC from command line and not by compiling from Lazarus. Leonardo. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
Hi all, Especially to laz's svn maintainers... I saw laz 9.24 fixes branch on svn had been updated in the last 20 hours. I just want to confirm, is this branch exactly the same with 9.24 release? Because I see most updates had been done 2 weeks ago. If it is then I'll use this branch for my daily use, instead of the official stable release. Or should I wait for official announcement of its availability? TIA. -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Changes for targa read (FPC team)
Hi, This change allows you to read any file formats TARGA. I send the complete file, I am not a developer FPC ;) Regards, -- Laurent. My Components: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Wile64 French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php fpreadtga.pp Description: Binary data
Re: [lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
Bee ha scritto: Hi all, Especially to laz's svn maintainers... I saw laz 9.24 fixes branch on svn had been updated in the last 20 hours. I just want to confirm, is this branch exactly the same with 9.24 release? Because I see most updates had been done 2 weeks ago. If it is then I'll use this branch for my daily use, instead of the official stable release. Or should I wait for official announcement of its availability? You have two options. 1) Start using it right now at your own risk (the updates of two weeks ago have been tested, the last ones not yet) and participate to the fixes branch testing. 2) Wait for official announcement. Then use at your own risk ;-), but knowing that what you get has been at least tested in a couple of platforms before being committed. Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Changes for targa read (FPC team)
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, wile64 wrote: Hi, This change allows you to read any file formats TARGA. I send the complete file, I am not a developer FPC ;) Thank you very much. I committed the file to SVN. Michael. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 02:42:58PM +0100, willem wrote: Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 10:41:44AM +0100, willem wrote: Well object pascal lies between java and c++. It lies at C++ level. android uses the eclipse ide. but antlr has also an eclipse plugin. object pascal and java grammars are available for antlr. so we can bridge the gap between java and object pascal. What are you actually trying to achieve ? the google android project has a 10 000 000 dollar budget. and if the lazarus gets a 50 000 dollar award for the adroid project Big if. Very big _if_. then we can make the lazarus at first 100 %compatible with delphi. Well, that needs mainly time, not money. And the time on android project can be better spent directly on Lazarus. Well I am not going too spend much time in the discussion of android in the lazarus mailinglist. I did apply for a new account on sourceforge. My intention is to name it androida. and my first step is to put a antlr delphi grammar into cvs. Thats is a very basic step. I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc but i will use antlr too speed things up. I applieed for an account on sourceforge because i want to start up an android lazarus project and the first i will do is the java and delphi grammar to check Why do you need a Java grammar at all? Afaik there is no Delphi grammar that really describes the language. Sure, there are pretty printers, but nothing that can handle arbitrary code. Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at least have an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to a managed version. Sorry you are wrong. I have already the delphi grammar for antlr kindly regards _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Sérgio Marcelo - Sumicity Networks wrote: I would at first doubt one c++ programmer would say that. But who did? :-) well the c++ programmer who did say that is Bjarne Stoustrup, the designer and implementor of the c++ language Sérgio Marcelo willem escreveu: and the developper of c++ said that c++ needs to be improved but there is already a solution it is object pascal. regards _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
I think it would be a lot more productive to instead write wrapper C++ classes around the Free Pascal ones. That would give someone full access to the Free Pascal libraries in a much more efficient way then re-writing everything. Not to mention that you would get bug fixes instantaneously when they are made to Free Pascal. This same thing is done to access C++ libraries in Free Pascal, so the other way around is certainly also possible. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
-Original Message- From: Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho I think it would be a lot more productive to instead write wrapper C++ classes around the Free Pascal ones. snip This same thing is done to access C++ libraries in Free Pascal, so the other way around is certainly also possible. If we can generate a dll/so based on the FP library then everyone can use it but when people want to use the code as a static library with Digital Mars C++, VC++, Watcom C++, then it is next to impossible to use the FP libraries. I think FP generates the object code in DWARF format so you cannot use the compilers that support COFF or OMF formats. -Guru Kathiresan http://twinforms.com/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
-Original Message- From: Sam Liddicott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for this. Have you heard of a project called ALMA (on freshmeat) which may (or may not) help you with this. I haven't heard about it. It looks like a nice tool. I used delphi2cpp from http://ivan.vecerina.com/code/delphi2cpp/ and changed the generated code to make sure it uses the wxWidgets Library. -Guru Kathiresan http://twinforms.com/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote: I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc The FPC is recursive descent and is not based on yacc. Syntax highlighter parsers don't have to be 100% correct. Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at least have an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to a managed version. Sorry you are wrong. I have already the delphi grammar for antlr There is even one in the Delphi's manual. But even that is not complete. How can you be so sure yours is? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 08:22:50PM +0100, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: I think it would be a lot more productive to instead write wrapper C++ classes around the Free Pascal ones. That would give someone full access to the Free Pascal libraries in a much more efficient way then re-writing everything. Not to mention that you would get bug fixes instantaneously when they are made to Free Pascal. This same thing is done to access C++ libraries in Free Pascal, so the other way around is certainly also possible. Easier maybe even, since easier autogeneratable. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
On Nov 22, 2007 9:21 PM, Guru Kathiresan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but when people want to use the code as a static library with Digital Mars C++, VC++, Watcom C++, then it is next to impossible to use the FP libraries. In that case I would say they can either use gcc where one can use .o object files from fpc directly (like in a static lib), or they can use a shared lib. Anyway, I don't think this is a big restriction. I think FP generates the object code in DWARF format so you cannot use the compilers that support COFF or OMF formats. DWARF is a debug information format, not object file format. FPC produces object code compatible with GCC. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Changes for targa read (FPC team)
Michael Van Canneyt schreef: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, wile64 wrote: Hi, This change allows you to read any file formats TARGA. I send the complete file, I am not a developer FPC ;) Thank you very much. I committed the file to SVN. Something went wrong: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=10245 Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Changes for targa read (FPC team)
2007/11/22, Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Van Canneyt schreef: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, wile64 wrote: Hi, This change allows you to read any file formats TARGA. I send the complete file, I am not a developer FPC ;) Thank you very much. I committed the file to SVN. Something went wrong: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=10245 Vincent Thanks to Marco for his speed. -- Laurent. My Components: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Wile64 French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php
Re: Re: [lazarus]
On Nov 22, 2007 12:46 PM, Vasily I. Volchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At last, the fact that Lazarus compiled for windows, uses ansi (cp1251) while lazarus for linux uses UTF-8 is completely inacceptible. Read the Manual (which in our case means wiki): http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/LCL_Unicode_Support#Compiling_LCL-Win32_with_Unicode -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
In that case I would say they can either use gcc where one can use .o object files from fpc directly (like in a static lib), or they can use a shared lib. Anyway, I don't think this is a big restriction. GCC is very slow in Windows and not all professional Windows developers use it. Mostly they'll use VC++ and Intel C++ compiler. Apart from that wxWidgets supports a wide variety of compilers and it will not be of any use for most of the users. In case of Linux and Mac developers it's not a big restriction but for others it's a big show stopper. DWARF is a debug information format, not object file format. FPC produces object code compatible with GCC. My mistake. But not every Windows developers use GDB to debug their application and not all compilers support the object code that are created by GCC. -Guru Kathiresan http://twinforms.com/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Google's Android OS :)
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 07:52:59PM +0100, willem wrote: I know that the lazarus grammar is based on yacc I did some google search on the fpc I do know that google searches results are not always correct. I a a newby to the lazarus project. but i did study compiler comnstruction 30 years ago. Pascal has been founded by Prof niklaus Wirth as an an educational computer language and he has extended the backus -nauer form to EBNF. Well I am going to extend ENBF with XML. Grammar is very important as a base to study a language. I want to start Andromedia. The first effort will be documenting the delphi antlr grammar. I will use XML for that. because the the delphi grammar can easily be expanded with an XML specification. I did study websites with html and javascript. That horrible and it takes a lot of time to understand that kind of thing well i have 30 years of experience with computing problems my first computer experience was with the intel 4004 but i am a newby on this forum. My intentention is is to start the androida project on sourceforge I will then publish the delphi grammar for antlr. Experienced Lazarus developpers can then suggest improvements on this delphi grammar and so it becomes lazarus grammar. I want to extend the delphi grammar with XML So EBNF becomes XEBNF !!! The FPC is recursive descent and is not based on yacc. Syntax highlighter parsers don't have to be 100% correct. Before you start you might also learn your target better, and at least have an idea how you are going to tackle porting unmanaged constructs to a managed version. Sorry you are wrong. I have already the delphi grammar for antlr There is even one in the Delphi's manual. But even that is not complete. How can you be so sure yours is? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] is laz 9.24 fixes on svn ready to be used?
1) Start using it right now at your own risk (the updates of two weeks ago have been tested, the last ones not yet) and participate to the fixes branch testing. Never mind the risk, I knew about it since the beginning. What I meant, is the source code on 9.24 fixes branch exactly the same with the source code on 9.24 release? Since 9.24 release was announced yesterday but the fixes updates are two weeks older, I doubt they are the same codes. If someone can guarantee that they are same codes, I'd like to use it. 2) Wait for official announcement. Then use at your own risk ;-), but knowing that what you get has been at least tested in a couple of platforms before being committed. If the announcement wouldn't be too far from today, I might better wait for it. :) BTW, if there are some important fixes or features on development branch, to whom should I request to merge it to fixes branch? To Guiliano? Also, which fpc is officially used by this fixes branch? fpc stable (2.2.0) or fpc fixes (2.2.1)? I'm interesting to be involved in the testing. What should I do? FYI, I'm using fpc v.2.2.1 on Linux Ubuntu on i386 machine, but I'm new to SVN system. :-D TIA. -Bee- has Bee.ography at: http://beeography.wordpress.com _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: Re: Re: [lazarus]
OK, I understand the problems of using utf8 on windows, but I am speaking about other things. Why lazarus should save (and load) pascal (and only pascal, not lfm/lrs, not po) files in the internal encoding? If gtk2 version supports utf8, it forces user to save all files in utf8, when if windows version not supported it, saving in ansi charset is forced. It is possible (and quite easy by means of RTL) to convert text from utf8 to ansi, why not to use this translation on saving/loading by the choice of user? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] VCL for C++ based on FreePascal RTL
On Nov 23, 2007 12:22 AM, Guru Kathiresan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GCC is very slow in Windows and not all professional Windows developers use it. Mostly they'll use VC++ and Intel C++ compiler. Then they should use an external library. (what's so bad about it?? Most c++ apps I see are deploying msvc70rt DLLs or something like that anyway) There is also the very important advantage of using a wrapper around the current fpc rtl/fcl/lcl that it's very well tested, with a very comprehensive test suite in the case of the core libraries, and with lot's of people testing it daily. A new ground implementation will have new bugs, and will have the disadvantage that it's code is not as extensively tested as the free pascal libraries. That's fixable if there are lot's of contributors, but it is more logical to wrap the already tested libraries. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] [patch] CodeTools options dialog
Hi, Attached is a minor patch for CodeTools Options dialog. It fixes the items in the last tab. They got clipped because autosize was not enabled. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ Index: ide/codetoolsoptions.pas === --- ide/codetoolsoptions.pas (revision 12977) +++ ide/codetoolsoptions.pas (working copy) @@ -974,9 +974,15 @@ procedure TCodeToolsOptsDlg.SetupIdentifierCompletionPage(PageID: integer); begin with ICAddSemicolonCheckBox do + begin Caption:=dlgAddSemicolon; +AutoSize := True; + end; with ICAddAssignOperatorCheckBox do + begin Caption:=dlgAddAssignmentOperator; +AutoSize := True; + end; end; procedure TCodeToolsOptsDlg.ResizeLineSplittingPage;
