Re: RES: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
On 16/01/2008, Christian U. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How difficult can it be to run strip? How difficult can it be to read the complete thread ??? This is how I understand it LCL is built with debug inforation. You executable uses LCL and is also set to include debug information by default. This equals a huge executable. That is what you want while developing. When you create a release version of you product, you run strip agains the executable. It removes ALL debug information, even those carried over from LCL! You end up with a executable the same size as if you compiled your executable with LCL without debug information. If I didn't understand this correct, I apologize in advance. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Lance Collins wrote: Damien Gerard wrote: Normal users read the documentation because you cannot play a game without knowing the rules. They already know how to use Delphi when they were a little baby ? ^^) and some modifications are necessary. As far I know this is planned for Lazarus =1.0, in order to make a consistent patch (Old thread - Should be confirmed by a Lazarus team member, I speak for myself here). Waiting for that, the provided documentation is really enough for any programmer and I would add : RTFM :) I would like to Read The Fine Manual but it's Read The Scattered Framents. I've been programming since 1965 and written in Delphi since D2. For the last two weeks I've been reading all I can and have written two simple test programs in Lazarus. But I'm baffled trying to convert my main application It compiles but won't link (so I don't have a big compiled EXE). I think I've screwed the environment/compiler etc. options somehow and I can't find helpful explanations for each choice. For example in the IDE I see all my 50+ units listed across the top of the screen but Control/F12 pops up only two entries (lclclasses and my lpr file). Once I figure out what to do I'm sure the provided documentation will be become clear. Lance Please start separate thread.One tip : look for resource files included in project,some could be incompatible.I found the same behaviour with corrupted resource file. Boguslaw _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] New Docked IDE
Hi, 2008/1/15, Paul Ishenin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: I think my last email was loose (big attachment). What do you think of my current (on beta testing) new docked IDE? See it here: http://www.eurekalog.com/DockIDE.png http://www.eurekalog.com/DockIDE.png Looks good, but I see you implementing your own classes instead of compliting existing. Please look at LDockTree unit. DockSites already can draw their header and splitter is inserted between controls. We'll benifit all if we complete common classes insted of create our own. Currently Marius, Mattias and me working on docking in existing lcl units: LDockTree.pas, dockmanager.inc. Best regards, Paul Ishenin. I'll try to do this. PS: thank you to have definitely fixed then Win32 docking interface bug, also if little others (but not interface specified by only LCL related) are still presents. -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria.
[lazarus] Sound in Lazarus applications
Hello , Did anyone integrate sound capabilities into a Lazarus application ? (in a cross-platform way :-D ) I'm thinking about having the ability to play sounds when certain certain actions are done by the user or when to play back work complete after a long running task finishes. Cheers, Adrian Maier _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Don't get me wrong, but some discussions are useless and do more harm than good for the Lazarus. project imho. This is one of hem. Normally I would simply not answer. But this takes too long imho, and too much time which can be spend much better. Op dinsdag 15-01-2008 om 13:10 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Lee Jenkins: Do you really think, Lazarus should only exist to develop Lazarus? For creating a successful and strong development tool (which is the goal of the whole project AFAIK) you need not only contributors but users as well... Why needs Lazarus users that contribute nothing? Vincent Vincent, I think not all users will contribute, maybe the majority of them will not, but they help the project nonetheless, IMO. Those who will leave the project because of large exe-size, we don't need. 1. Some that do not contribute a lot will still spread the word of Lazarus, especially if their experiences with Lazarus are good ones. Those who will leave the project because of large exe-size, can only spread fuzz. They will always find something to pick about. They can't be serious. 2. Some *will* contribute a little, a few may contribute a lot in various ways (documentation/testing if not actual code contributions). I believe the Law of Averages is simply in control as far as this goes. As the user based increases so will the contributions, bug reports, documentation, etc. Maybe its like panning for gold! Those who will leave the project because of large exe-size, will only scare people away. Especially real developers, who get tired of discussions like this. They don't like it if they feel like they have to take care of some newbies that will never develop theirselves furhter. Thanks for your hard work, Vincent (and other Lazarus developers). Your work does not go unappreciated :) Each second that people like Vinvent spend on this, is lost time. Offcourse we need to support the community. And Vincent is doing a great deal in that way. That's probably the reason that he responded on this thread, while the other lazarus-developers mostly did not. But this takes too long, it will not take the project any further. Joost _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: RES: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Christian U. wrote: Marc Weustink schrieb: Cesar Liws Gmail wrote: I Agree with you Fabio, and also it can be implemented in Lazarus: 1) Debug Path – LCL with Debug info 2) Release Path – LCL WITHOUT Debug Info What if I want other options in my release ? Assertions on/off or Rangechecking on/off ? what has this todo with the lcl debugionfo ? When Im writing my software I do not want to debug Lazarus, so why should I include 10MB of LCL debug Info in my .EXE? Then when you release, run strip NO its not possible to debug then anymore. i think this is sayed 10 times in this thread. This thread is about stripping the debuginfos from LCL not from the user units. See it as part of your release. Lazarus won't zip the exe for you neither. It wont make an installer. ect. etc. So see it as part of a release process. Its good to habe debuginfos in an release also for stack traces on exceptions and so on but no need for lcl debuginfo in an release exe... _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Simulate ALT+KEY to open a menu
Hi, 2008/1/15, Roberto Padovani [EMAIL PROTECTED]: why don't you call the method FormKeyDown yourself? ... begin ... self.FormKeyDown(self, 65,[ssAlt]); end; I do not find this method. R# 2008/1/15, Fabio Dell'Aria [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, 2008/1/15, Lee Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi to all, how I can simulate the ALT+E key-press command on a specified TForm for open its Edit menu? Fabio, can you try: 1. Set TMyForm.KeyPreview := true 2. OnKeyDown Event Code: procedure TMyForm.FormKeyDown( Sender: TObject; var Key: Word; Shift: TShiftState) ; begin if (ssAlt in Shift) and (key = 65) then AMenuItem.Click; // or... // if (ssAlt in Shift) and (lowercase(Chr(key)) = 'e') then end; I don't do that kind of key capture much so there may be a better way to test for upper or lowercase 'e'; Not always this keys open a menu, other times do others. So I cannot call directly the MenuItem.Click method. I need to simply simulate a keypress. How I can do this? -- Warm Regards, Lee The only thing that kept me out college...was high school. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria.
[lazarus] Lazarus not start
After build last SVN (13776) Lazarus does not start, or starts to load and then closes Any idea? begin:vcard fn:David Guadagnini n:Guadagnini;David org:Biotecnica Instruments S.p.A.;RD adr:;;Via Licenza 18;Roma;RM;00133;Italy email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Software architet tel;work:+39064112616 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus not start
What OS ? Sorry on Windows XP professional begin:vcard fn:David Guadagnini n:Guadagnini;David org:Biotecnica Instruments S.p.A.;RD adr:;;Via Licenza 18;Roma;RM;00133;Italy email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Software architet tel;work:+39064112616 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Op woensdag 16-01-2008 om 09:54 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Joost van der Sluis: Don't get me wrong, but some discussions are useless and do more harm than good for the Lazarus. project imho. This is one of hem. Normally I would simply not answer. But this takes too long imho, and too much time which can be spend much better. Some more information. When people try to use Lazarus for the first time. They write 'hello world', compile, run. Add a breakpoint, compile, run. If debugging then doesn't work, they'll toss Lazarus away. If they see lines with hexadecimal numbers, they'll start googling or complaining. Next step is that they compile one of their 'old, rusty' delphi/pascal programs. To see if that still works. That are the things we need to think about while developing Lazarus. The binary size - no one is interested in that. Only people who are coming from Delphi. And that's because the Delphi compiler is written in an time in which executable size was important! You only had 2400 baud modems, and your harddisk had 20MB of storage space! That's the reason why Delphi has all those tricks to keep files as small as possible, even while you're developing. Nowadays no-one really cares. Unless you are obsessed with comparing every detail of FPC/Lazarus with Delphi. About the compilation time, some people argue that that would be faster if the binary size (or the size of the .o files) is smaller. Well, hurray! Compilation time drops from 1.2 seconds to 1.198 seconds That's 0.02 seconds faster! Fast, submit it to slashdot! That will learn those C-users to bash pascal! Same holds for executable-loading times. (According to the benchmarks fpc is one of the fastes compilers in this aspect) A thing which does matter, if the amount of memory the application uses while running. I'm still annoyed by the fact that the 'clock' in the corner of my screen consumes 5MB of internal memory, just to show the time. And then I didn't count the python-runtime which is loaded to use it. GNOME (Fedora) can take up to hundred or even more MB of memmory, just to show some widgets. That annoys me. So I'm happy with Lazarus which only needs twice the amount of internal memory then a stupid, simple, clock. I doubt that any non-Delphi user will ever make an issue about the file-size. Until they want to distribute their applications, in which case they'll have no problems with the strip option. Offcourse, the core-developers could spend some time on an option to strip the debug info from the LCL, but not of the whole application. But it's importance is the same a typo on the about screen. While the effort needed to implement it, is comparable to implementing the basics of a out-of-the-box CGI-web system. (Or some steps further in the development of the internal debugger) I'm really happy with the Lazarus developers, who would spend their time on the CGI-functionality, instead of useless functionality like typo's and lcl-debuginfo-strip-options. That's also the reason why Lazarus has become what it is, and the amount of users is growing that fast: The project is driven by a team of excellent developers, who know where they should spend their time on. The same holds, for example, for the iconset. I'm pretty pleased that the core people didn't spend much time on it. And I'm pretty pleased with Laurent and others, who have picked this up and made many patches with new and improved Icons. They didn't start long threads on the mailinglist to ask others to code a solution for their - from a core-developer view - unimportant options. No they started long threads with all sort of self-made Icons, compared them, and chooses the best of them. Resulting in a far better looking Lazarus in just a couple of months. From time to time this threads pops up. Just like the 'icon' threads did in the past. Now take your responsibility: if you are annoyed by the fact of the big-binaries, you have to supply patches for that. If you think that it's a big issue which we all have been waiting for you would start spending time on it, to make that patch. Even if it would take you months, you would do it. If not, it's not a big enough issue to spend time on. And especially not to spend others time on, writing long mails to the mailing list. ;) Joost. ps: Main idea of the message above isn't even debatable. So in case you're already writing a long answer: stop that, I won't even read. And certainly not answer. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
Hi, Is anybody currently busy working on the ToDo List feature in the IDE? It's not currently working (v0.9.25 r13293M i386-linux-gtk) - no items get displayed and sometimes even crashes the IDE (no error message output - a direct terminate to the command prompt). The last time I checked it, about 2 or so months ago, it was working. I'll try and get a svn update and try again (this morning I couldn't connect to svn repository). Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus not start
On Jan 16, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Guadagnini David wrote: After build last SVN (13776) Lazarus does not start, or starts to load and then closes What OS ? Any idea? Works well under Ubuntu 2.2.0. sw_dept.vcf -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: RES: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Christian U. wrote: Marc Weustink schrieb: Cesar Liws Gmail wrote: I Agree with you Fabio, and also it can be implemented in Lazarus: 1) Debug Path – LCL with Debug info 2) Release Path – LCL WITHOUT Debug Info What if I want other options in my release ? Assertions on/off or Rangechecking on/off ? what has this todo with the lcl debugionfo ? It has all to do with what kind of info/settings you want in your release build. There is more than debug info only When Im writing my software I do not want to debug Lazarus, so why should I include 10MB of LCL debug Info in my .EXE? Then when you release, run strip NO its not possible to debug then anymore. i think this is sayed 10 times in this thread. Yes, however after a release, your not developing on that release anymore. Your users are using it and don't need to debug. The unstripped version you keep to yourself, so you can debug yourself. This thread is about stripping the debuginfos from LCL not from the user units. So the lcl needs to be compiles with some option. What has that to do with project settings ? Nothing. It's how the lcl should be build once. IIRC this discussion started about that. I agree that it would be a nice option to be able to choose between LCL with/without debuginfo FCL with/without debuginfo RTL with/without debuginfo OTOH, a debugger being able to use external symbols would solve it too. See it as part of your release. Lazarus won't zip the exe for you neither. It wont make an installer. ect. etc. So see it as part of a release process. Its good to habe debuginfos in an release also for stack traces on exceptions and so on but no need for lcl debuginfo in an release exe... You need them too if some error happens in the LCL (the LCL is not bugfree you know ?) Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus not start
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Re: [lazarus] Lazarus not start
I took the last snapshot (which is the rev 13776 according to the About box) and it works perfectly (win32 widgetset ISO*** and recompiled with UTF8). May be you should do a make clean all. Thank with make clean all work begin:vcard fn:David Guadagnini n:Guadagnini;David org:Biotecnica Instruments S.p.A.;RD adr:;;Via Licenza 18;Roma;RM;00133;Italy email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Software architet tel;work:+39064112616 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Hi to all, 2008/1/16, Joost van der Sluis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: No I am answering - to myself even: Op woensdag 16-01-2008 om 11:18 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Joost van der Sluis: A thing which does matter, if the amount of memory the application uses while running. I'm still annoyed by the fact that the 'clock' in the corner of my screen consumes 5MB of internal memory, just to show the time. And then I didn't count the python-runtime which is loaded to use it. GNOME (Fedora) can take up to hundred or even more MB of memmory, just to show some widgets. That annoys me. So I'm happy with Lazarus which only needs twice the amount of internal memory then a stupid, simple, clock. Thus, being a good Open-Source developer, I should write my own clock, or stop complaining about it. ;) Broke my own rule ;) (As a Defense, I did writ my own clock, but didn't finished it, so it wasn't annoying enough) From time to time this threads pops up. Just like the 'icon' threads did in the past. Now take your responsibility: if you are annoyed by the fact of the big-binaries, you have to supply patches for that. If you think that it's a big issue which we all have been waiting for you would start spending time on it, to make that patch. Even if it would take you months, you would do it. If not, it's not a big enough issue to spend time on. And especially not to spend others time on, writing long mails to the mailing list. ;) As Fabio (and others) does now with the docking-system. Seems like that the lack of this feature is more annoying than the binary size. So let's concentrate on that and keep up the good work! Joost. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives OK guys now I OFFICIALLY close this very long, long thread! :) See you later! ;) -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria.
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus not start
Guadagnini David schreef: What OS ? Sorry on Windows XP professional Using what fpc version? Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Lazarus not start
On Jan 16, 2008, at 10:59 AM, Guadagnini David wrote: What OS ? Sorry on Windows XP professional I took the last snapshot (which is the rev 13776 according to the About box) and it works perfectly (win32 widgetset ISO*** and recompiled with UTF8). May be you should do a make clean all. -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] French translation (suite)
For Laurent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : Here are some suggestions. About box : * Lazarus est un IDE pour créer des applications (graphique et console ) [...] * Lazarus est un IDE pour créer des applications (graphiques et consoles) [...] ^ ^^ * Free Pascal est un compilateur (L)GPL'ed Pascal [...] ^^?? In fact all the sentence is nonsense. May be it should be : * Free Pascal est un compilateur (L)GPL' pour Pascal et Pascal Objet, qui fonctionne sous Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, FreeBSD et d'autres. The following means nothing * Lazarus est la partie absente du puzzle cela permettra de [...] Here is an idea * Lazarus est une pièce maitresse pour le développement d'applications multi-plateformes. A l'image de Delphi (uniquement sous Windows) cet EDI (Environnement de développement intégré ou IDE en anglais) est un outil de Développement rapide d'applications (ou RAD an anglais). Some suggestions from others users In environment options (form editor) : * Créer auto. la fiche en ouvrant l'unité * Créer la fiche automatiquement en ouvrant l'unité In Appellation : * Action sur fichier litigieux: * Action sur fichier litigieux ^ * ne pas renommer automatiquement * Ne pas [...] ^ LazDoc * paramètres LazDoc * Paramètres Lazdoc ^ Options for the editor / Général: * indentation bloc * Indentation bloc ^ Options for the editor / Affichage * Taille de la fonte d'éditeur * Taille de la police de l'éditeur Options for the editor / Assignation des touches When you click on Vérifier la cohérence : * Pas d'erreurs trouvées dans l'assignation de touches * Pas d'erreurs trouvées dans l'assignation des touches ^ Options for the editor / Couleurs * Arrangement de couleur * Profils des couleurs * Extension de fichier * Extensions de fichier ^ In fact I think I will stop here for now :) May be I should make a patch for the PO file ? -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
No I am answering - to myself even: Op woensdag 16-01-2008 om 11:18 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Joost van der Sluis: A thing which does matter, if the amount of memory the application uses while running. I'm still annoyed by the fact that the 'clock' in the corner of my screen consumes 5MB of internal memory, just to show the time. And then I didn't count the python-runtime which is loaded to use it. GNOME (Fedora) can take up to hundred or even more MB of memmory, just to show some widgets. That annoys me. So I'm happy with Lazarus which only needs twice the amount of internal memory then a stupid, simple, clock. Thus, being a good Open-Source developer, I should write my own clock, or stop complaining about it. ;) Broke my own rule ;) (As a Defense, I did writ my own clock, but didn't finished it, so it wasn't annoying enough) From time to time this threads pops up. Just like the 'icon' threads did in the past. Now take your responsibility: if you are annoyed by the fact of the big-binaries, you have to supply patches for that. If you think that it's a big issue which we all have been waiting for you would start spending time on it, to make that patch. Even if it would take you months, you would do it. If not, it's not a big enough issue to spend time on. And especially not to spend others time on, writing long mails to the mailing list. ;) As Fabio (and others) does now with the docking-system. Seems like that the lack of this feature is more annoying than the binary size. So let's concentrate on that and keep up the good work! Joost. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
Zitat von Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Is anybody currently busy working on the ToDo List feature in the IDE? It's not currently working (v0.9.25 r13293M i386-linux-gtk) - no items get displayed and sometimes even crashes the IDE (no error message output - a direct terminate to the command prompt). The last time I checked it, about 2 or so months ago, it was working. I'll try and get a svn update and try again (this morning I couldn't connect to svn repository). It works here, but the scope has changed. See http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_ToDo_List I know the gtk toolbar bug, but the crash is new to me. I do not use the todo list much, so probably that's the reasons why I didn't know it. Maybe you can provide some test cases. Mattias _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] TimeCallBack under Win32
I have with my GDB the following : Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00434823 in TLIST__GETCOUNT () at lists.inc:368 368 lists.inc: No such file or directory. in lists.inc Current language: auto; currently pascal (gdb) bt #0 0x00434823 in TLIST__GETCOUNT () at lists.inc:368 #1 0x004ffa20 in TIMERCALLBACKPROC (WINDOW_HWND=0, MSG=275, IDEVENT=2164, DWTIME=102821187) at win32callback.inc:2563 #2 0x77d18744 in USER32!GetDC () from C:\WINDOWS\system32\user32.dll #3 0x in ?? () The methode is : procedure TimerCallBackProc(window_hwnd : hwnd; msg : DWORD; idEvent: UINT; dwTime: DWORD); stdcall; Var TimerInfo: PWin32TimerInfo; n: Integer; begin n := FTimerData.Count; while (n0) do begin dec(n); TimerInfo := FTimerData[n]; if TimerInfo^.TimerID=idEvent then begin TimerInfo^.TimerFunc; break; end; end; end; It seems FTimerData is not properly set. Is it possible ? May be it is related to some bad behavior of my application (I really don't know what but it is not impossible) In fact I have problems once I use Threads in my application under Windows (works perfectly under Linux). I follewed the Wiki : http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Multithreaded_Application_Tutorial -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Simulate ALT+KEY to open a menu
Hi,
if you go to the form events in design mode, then you should see an
OnKeyDown event. Click on the ... button and the event handler will
be defined as the standard FormKeyDown method.
there's a mistake in the code I suggested to you yesterday: key is
declared as a var parameter so the correct code is:
var k: word;
begin
...
k:= 65; { this is ASCII character A}
self.FormKeyDown(self,k,[ssAlt]);
...
end;
cheers,
R#
2008/1/16, Fabio Dell'Aria [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
2008/1/15, Roberto Padovani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
why don't you call the method FormKeyDown yourself?
...
begin
...
self.FormKeyDown(self, 65,[ssAlt]);
end;
I do not find this method.
R#
2008/1/15, Fabio Dell'Aria [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
2008/1/15, Lee Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] :
Fabio Dell'Aria wrote:
Hi to all,
how I can simulate the ALT+E key-press command on a specified
TForm
for open its Edit menu?
Fabio, can you try:
1. Set TMyForm.KeyPreview := true
2. OnKeyDown Event Code:
procedure TMyForm.FormKeyDown ( Sender: TObject; var Key: Word;
Shift: TShiftState) ;
begin
if (ssAlt in Shift) and (key = 65) then
AMenuItem.Click;
// or...
// if (ssAlt in Shift) and (lowercase(Chr(key)) = 'e') then
end;
I don't do that kind of key capture much so there may be a better way
to
test
for upper or lowercase 'e';
Not always this keys open a menu, other times do others.
So I cannot call directly the MenuItem.Click method.
I need to simply simulate a keypress. How I can do this?
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[lazarus] A Compiled file size solution from the GBD mailing-list
I have asked to the official GDB mailing list, if is possible debug a program using as debug symbols an external files. The answer is yes (there are two method to do this). You can read the full answer here: http://sourceware.org/ml/gdb/2008-01/msg00119.html I hope this can help we. -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] French translation (suite)
Damien Gerard schreef: For Laurent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : Here are some suggestions. snipped a lot of suggestions In fact I think I will stop here for now :) May be I should make a patch for the PO file ? Yes, please. :-) Unless you are not sure about certain French terms yet and want to discuss them on this mailing list. I promise I won't join in ;-). Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] TDBMemo gtk2, is there any other component?
Is there other component for use the funtionality of TDBMemo in Lazarus GTK2 ? Thanks. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] unable to debug with fpc 2.3.1
I have installed the resources branch of fpc, because I wanted to test the new resource handling. I've changed the fpcsrc directory in a symlink pointing to the appropriate sources. The IDE understands it properly, and finds the fpc sources when required. But when I debug my app, the debugger doesn't, and always requests me to locate manually the source file. Adding the source path in the debugger options doesn't help. Setting the real path instead of the symlink neither. What I'm missing? Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] repository issues
Hi, Anybody got issues with the Lazarus repository? This is the error I get: - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:lazarus$ svn info Path: . URL: http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk Repository Root: http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus Repository UUID: 4005530d-fff6-0310-9dd1-cebe43e6787f Revision: 13293 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: paul Last Changed Rev: 13293 Last Changed Date: 2007-12-12 10:57:15 +0200 (Wed, 12 Dec 2007) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:lazarus$ svn up svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/lazarus/trunk' svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/lazarus/trunk': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://www.freepascal.org) - I'm connecting from South Africa, if that's of any help. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] repository issues
On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:55 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: Hi, Anybody got issues with the Lazarus repository? This is the error I get: - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:lazarus$ svn info Path: . URL: http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk Repository Root: http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus Repository UUID: 4005530d-fff6-0310-9dd1-cebe43e6787f Revision: 13293 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: paul Last Changed Rev: 13293 Last Changed Date: 2007-12-12 10:57:15 +0200 (Wed, 12 Dec 2007) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:lazarus$ svn up svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/lazarus/trunk' svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/lazarus/trunk': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://www.freepascal.org) Was working one or two hours ago. milipili-desktop [milipili] ~/Projects/lazarus % svn up Err 130 #50 svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/lazarus/trunk' svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/lazarus/trunk': Could not resolve hostname `svn.freepascal.org': No address associated with hostname (http://svn.freepascal.org ) - I'm connecting from South Africa, if that's of any help. So far ?! -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: repository issues
No worries, I found the problem. I had to relocate my working copy to a new svn address. No idea why it was pointing to [http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk] instead of [http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk] Sorry for the false alarm. Graeme. On 16/01/2008, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Anybody got issues with the Lazarus repository? This is the error I get: - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:lazarus$ svn info Path: . URL: http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk Repository Root: http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus Repository UUID: 4005530d-fff6-0310-9dd1-cebe43e6787f Revision: 13293 Node Kind: directory Schedule: normal Last Changed Author: paul Last Changed Rev: 13293 Last Changed Date: 2007-12-12 10:57:15 +0200 (Wed, 12 Dec 2007) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:lazarus$ svn up svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/lazarus/trunk' svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/lazarus/trunk': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://www.freepascal.org) - I'm connecting from South Africa, if that's of any help. Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: repository issues
On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:04 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: No worries, I found the problem. I had to relocate my working copy to a new svn address. No idea why it was pointing to [http://www.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk] instead of [http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/trunk] I don't know. Anyway it works again even for me :) Sorry for the false alarm. Graeme. -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] repository issues
Graeme Geldenhuys ha scritto: Hi, Anybody got issues with the Lazarus repository? This is the error I get: [...] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:lazarus$ svn up svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/lazarus/trunk' svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/lazarus/trunk': 405 Method Not Allowed (http://www.freepascal.org) - I'm connecting from South Africa, if that's of any help. Tested right now, and for me it works fine (from Italy, if it matters): [EMAIL PROTECTED] lazarus]$ svn up Ulcl/interfaces/qt/qtwsdialogs.pp Ulcl/interfaces/qt/qtwidgets.pas Aggiornato alla revisione 13779. Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Sound in Lazarus applications
Adrian Maier wrote: Hello , Did anyone integrate sound capabilities into a Lazarus application ? (in a cross-platform way :-D ) I'm thinking about having the ability to play sounds when certain certain actions are done by the user or when to play back work complete after a long running task finishes. Adrian, http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/ACS I haven't used it, but found it a little while back. I think there was a thread recently concerning it. -- Warm Regards, Lee The only thing that kept me out college...was high school. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] repository issues
On 16/01/2008, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm connecting from South Africa, if that's of any help. So far ?! It doesn't feel that far really. :-) Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] repository issues
On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:08 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 16/01/2008, Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm connecting from South Africa, if that's of any help. So far ?! It doesn't feel that far really. :-) From France a little :) Send a postcard ! :p -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
On 16/01/2008, Mattias Gärtner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It works here, but the scope has changed. See
http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/IDE_Window:_ToDo_List
Thanks, I read the information and had a look at the todo dialog's
execute method. I made sure my 'main' form is in the .lpr files uses
clause, which it was. I then even copied one of the todo items from
the todo dialog's source code.
I opened the ToDo dialog in my Lazarus. Clicked 'Refresh' and still
not a single item appears. When I run Lazarus from the command line,
it shows all the units used for the todo lookup, and my units are
listed, but nothing is shown.
Here is a sample todo item I create in my main form of my application.
None of those items appear. As I mentioned, I think in November or
so, it still worked fine.
procedure TMainForm.importerModuleProcessed(const AModuleID,
AModuleDir: string);
begin
{ #todo Do something with this. }
{#todo print an todo report }
{ todo: And another one. }
writeln('Processed module ', AModuleID, ' in ', AModuleDir);
end;
I know the gtk toolbar bug, but the crash is new to me. I do not use the todo
Yeah, that toolbar bug is hard to miss!! Is anybody working on this bug?
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Re: [lazarus] Sound in Lazarus applications
I haven't used it, but found it a little while back. I think there was a thread recently concerning it. Yes, just try and search this ML for ACS and have a look to : http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Lazarus_Faq#Lazarus_crashes_with_runtime_error_211_after_I_installed_a_componentfor multithreading Lazarus issue. Antonio -- Antonio Sanguigni alias slapshot -- GioveLUG (Linux User Group) - http://www.giovelug.org Edupup (Educational distro) - http://www.edupup.org
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
On 16/01/2008, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I opened the ToDo dialog in my Lazarus. Clicked 'Refresh' and still not a single item appears. When I run Lazarus from the command line, it shows all the units used for the todo lookup, and my units are listed, but nothing is shown. I forgot to mention. I did a svn update and recompiled clean. Currently using v0.9.25 r13779M i386-linux-gtk Regards, - Graeme - ___ fpGUI - a cross-platform Free Pascal GUI toolkit http://opensoft.homeip.net/fpgui/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] IntraWeb
Just wondering if there has been any advance on an 'IntraWeb' interface at all ? and secondly - is it at all possible to use a (licenced) copy of Intraweb itself within Lazarus ? Thanks _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
Hi Graeme, I think I was the last to work on the TODO list. And even if it may sound as a typical programmer excuse, last time I checked it used to work. ;-) You are right, it was working not so long ago, and I checked with 13776 under windows and it doesn't process the TODO entries you submitted. I'll have a look to see what changed. Regards, Gerard.
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
On 16/01/2008, Gerard N/A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And even if it may sound as a typical programmer excuse, last time I checked
it used to work. ;-)
:-) I know that feeling...
You are right, it was working not so long ago, and I checked with 13776
under windows and it doesn't process the TODO entries you submitted.
I'll have a look to see what changed.
Thanks. I placed a writeln('.Found comment') on line
303 in todolist.pas which as far as I can see is will be reached if
any todo comment was found. Needless to say that writeln is never
reached for some reason. I haven't checked the svn logs on that file
yet to see if somebody else changed something.
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Re: [lazarus] Sound in Lazarus applications
Hi, I've binded libsndfile, and you can use it as well : http://ik.homelinux.org/index.rhtml/projects/fpc/sndfile On Jan 16, 2008 10:38 AM, Adrian Maier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello , Did anyone integrate sound capabilities into a Lazarus application ? (in a cross-platform way :-D ) I'm thinking about having the ability to play sounds when certain certain actions are done by the user or when to play back work complete after a long running task finishes. Cheers, Adrian Maier _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- http://ik.homelinux.org/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
It seems it doens't even reach that method as it should in the loop from line 570 to 586.
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
It seems that the function BasicCodeTools.FindNextComment used to get the
comments ignores any comment that starts with '{' not immediatly followed by
a '$' ?
Re: [lazarus] New Docked IDE
Amazing! Is there a chance that we can see this as an option for the IDE? Regards, Gerard.
Re: [lazarus] New Docked IDE
Hi, 2008/1/16, Gerard N/A [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Amazing! Is there a chance that we can see this as an option for the IDE? Regards, Gerard. I hope it can become a the new definitively look. Indeed every docked window is undockable just click on its new title right button. :) -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
On 16/01/2008, Gerard N/A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that the function BasicCodeTools.FindNextComment used to get the
comments ignores any comment that starts with '{' not immediatly followed by
a '$' ?
Oops! Mattias, any special reason for that behaviour?
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Re: [lazarus] French translation (suite)
On Jan 16, 2008, at 12:42 PM, Vincent Snijders wrote: Damien Gerard schreef: For Laurent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) : Here are some suggestions. snipped a lot of suggestions In fact I think I will stop here for now :) May be I should make a patch for the PO file ? Yes, please. :-) Unless you are not sure about certain French terms yet and want to discuss them on this mailing list. I promise I won't join in ;-). In fact I am not :) For the word Identifier, it seems Identifiant would be more appropriated, rather than Identificateur. Other colleagues of mine conform it. In fact Identificateur is not the good word, like Programmateur instead of Programmeur for a programer. What do french people of lazarus think about it ? :) -- Damien Gerard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le temps n'a pas d'importance. Seul le code est important -- (f00ty) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: RES: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
This is how I understand it LCL is built with debug inforation. You executable uses LCL and is also set to include debug information by default. This equals a huge executable. That is what you want while developing. When you create a release version of you product, you run strip agains the executable. It removes ALL debug information, even those carried over from LCL! You end up with a executable the same size as if you compiled your executable with LCL without debug information. I say it again, this thread was about stripping the debug infos from lcl code not from the whole executable. It is real good to have debug infor from your code to have function names in stack traces that can be very helpful. But thers no need for the lcl debug inso so if it is stripped per default - we have not so many users that ask for the executable size, - the debugger dont jumps in lcl code that is not interesting for most users, - you musnt use strip and have an good usage from stack traces. best regards Christian _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Sound in Lazarus applications
Try ACS : http://acs.ullihome.de Adrian Maier schrieb: Hello , Did anyone integrate sound capabilities into a Lazarus application ? (in a cross-platform way :-D ) I'm thinking about having the ability to play sounds when certain certain actions are done by the user or when to play back work complete after a long running task finishes. Cheers, Adrian Maier _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] French translation (suite)
For the word Identifier, it seems Identifiant would be more appropriated, rather than Identificateur. Other colleagues of mine conform it. In fact Identificateur is not the good word, like Programmateur instead of Programmeur for a programer. I think identificateur is right. Both the french wikipedia ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identificateur) and the french dictionary I have at hand (Petit Robert) agree on it. Regards, Gerard.
Re: [lazarus] New Docked IDE
Great. There are times where having everything docked together is much more convenient.
Re: RES: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Yes, however after a release, your not developing on that release anymore. Your users are using it and don't need to debug. The unstripped version you keep to yourself, so you can debug yourself. Not in any case, stack traces can be very useful to find an problem on an exception but there only useful with debugionfos, so its an great thing to strip the lcl debuginfos but nit those from user code. So the lcl needs to be compiles with some option. What has that to do with project settings ? Nothing. It's how the lcl should be build once. IIRC this discussion started about that. I agree that it would be a nice option to be able to choose between LCL with/without debuginfo FCL with/without debuginfo RTL with/without debuginfo OTOH, a debugger being able to use external symbols would solve it too. I think one checkbox in the Build lazarus Configuration dialog is ok. RTL and FCL are never build while building lazarus its a bit hard to add an option for this i think. best regards Christian _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
OK guys now I OFFICIALLY close this very long, long thread! :) Are you trying to create an patch ? If not please inform me than i will do. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
This function (FindNextComment) is only used in
TStandardCodeTool.GetPasDocComments and TodoList. I don't think changing
it's behaviour would break anything.
The fix is as easy as removing the check for the dollar char.
at line 1137:
'{': Exit;
{ if (ResultMaxPos) and (ASource[Result+1]='$') then
exit;}
This makes the todo comments to be processed, but there is an additional
problem because the although they are added to the list, description doesn't
show up.
G.
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
None of the todo items you submitted follows in the syntax expected by the
parser as it is now.
It's either:
{TODO: x } or {DONE: x }
or
{#todo: xxx xx xx} or {#done: xxx xx xx} or
Optionally, you can add -oX for the owner and -cX for the category.
Regards,
Gerard.
Re: [lazarus] French translation (suite)
2008/1/16, Gerard N/A [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the word Identifier, it seems Identifiant would be more appropriated, rather than Identificateur. Other colleagues of mine conform it. In fact Identificateur is not the good word, like Programmateur instead of Programmeur for a programer. I think identificateur is right. Both the french wikipedia ( http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identificateur) and the french dictionary I have at hand (Petit Robert) agree on it. Regards, Gerard. Great, I feel so lonely since the time that I asked for help and advice differs ;) identificateur is right. Thanks -- Laurent. My Components: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Wile64 French Forum : http://lazforum-fr.tuxfamily.org/index.php
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
On 16/01/2008, Gerard N/A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
None of the todo items you submitted follows in the syntax expected by the
parser as it is now.
It's either:
{TODO: x } or {DONE: x }
I normally do the above (Delphi style), but I saw the entries in the
todo list dialog, so thought maybe the todo comments format has
changed. I saw the other formats in the todolist.pas unit's header. I
tried those formats in my code and still nothing.
PS:
Maybe we should remove the old comment style from the todo list dialog
header comment, to stop confusion?
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Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Hi, 2008/1/16, Christian U. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK guys now I OFFICIALLY close this very long, long thread! :) Are you trying to create an patch ? If not please inform me than i will do. I have just found a method to move ALL the debug data and symbols to an external .dbg file, obtaining a just stripped compiled file and the full debug functionalities (only with the .dbg file presents). Currently I must execute 3 steps to obtain this (after every compilation). I'm working to can do all with a single step (just on beta testing)! :) -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Rebuilding RTL and FCL inside LazIDE
Christian U. wrote: RTL and FCL are never build while building lazarus its a bit hard to add an option for this i think. Mattias, what is needed to add rebuilding RTL/FCL from within the IDE? Thanks! -- Al _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Rebuilding RTL and FCL inside LazIDE
Al Boldi wrote: Christian U. wrote: RTL and FCL are never build while building lazarus its a bit hard to add an option for this i think. Assume I have both debug and release versions build myself. Mattias, what is needed to add rebuilding RTL/FCL from within the IDE? This is goining into the wron direction. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
At 18:37 16-1-2008, you wrote: Hi, 2008/1/16, Christian U. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK guys now I OFFICIALLY close this very long, long thread! :) Are you trying to create an patch ? If not please inform me than i will do. I have just found a method to move ALL the debug data and symbols to an external .dbg file, obtaining a just stripped compiled file and the full debug functionalities (only with the .dbg file presents). Currently I must execute 3 steps to obtain this (after every compilation). I'm working to can do all with a single step (just on beta testing)! :) I can see only 2 steps: $ objcopy -R .text -R .data lazarus.exe lazarus1.dbg $ strip lazarus.exe Resulting files: -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter None 41551141 Jan 16 18:50 lazarus.dbg -rwxrwxrwx 1 peter None 7610368 Jan 16 18:51 lazarus.exe And for debugging: $ gdb lazarus.exe (gdb) br main No symbol table is loaded. Use the file command. (gdb) symbol-file lazarus1.dbg Reading symbols from /cygdrive/d/lazarus/lazarus.dbg...done. (gdb) br main Breakpoint 1 at 0x401bf9: file lazarus.pp, line 77. (gdb) Peter _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] ToDo List not working in IDE
On Jan 16, 2008 6:30 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I normally do the above (Delphi style), but I saw the entries in the todo list dialog, so thought maybe the todo comments format has changed. I saw the other formats in the todolist.pas unit's header. I tried those formats in my code and still nothing. You are right, the comments in the unit header are wrong. The parser expects a semicolon anyway (#todo: or TODO:), then it works. PS: Maybe we should remove the old comment style from the todo list dialog header comment, to stop confusion? Yes.
[lazarus] Cannot reach lazarus.freepascal.org
Is anybody able to reach http://lazarus.freepascal.org? I get a timeout after the address is resolved. Thanks, Gerard.
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Hi, 2008/1/16, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 18:37 16-1-2008, you wrote: Hi, 2008/1/16, Christian U. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK guys now I OFFICIALLY close this very long, long thread! :) Are you trying to create an patch ? If not please inform me than i will do. I have just found a method to move ALL the debug data and symbols to an external .dbg file, obtaining a just stripped compiled file and the full debug functionalities (only with the .dbg file presents). Currently I must execute 3 steps to obtain this (after every compilation). I'm working to can do all with a single step (just on beta testing)! :) I can see only 2 steps: $ objcopy -R .text -R .data lazarus.exe lazarus1.dbg $ strip lazarus.exe Resulting files: -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter None 41551141 Jan 16 18:50 lazarus.dbg -rwxrwxrwx 1 peter None 7610368 Jan 16 18:51 lazarus.exe And for debugging: $ gdb lazarus.exe (gdb) br main No symbol table is loaded. Use the file command. (gdb) symbol-file lazarus1.dbg Reading symbols from /cygdrive/d/lazarus/lazarus.dbg...done. (gdb) br main Breakpoint 1 at 0x401bf9: file lazarus.pp, line 77. (gdb) I need 3 steps because I don not change the mode lazarus call the GDB. After my changes just a lazarus run to can use a stripped (as --strip-all) compiled file with all the debug data in an external file (and is possible debug also the LCL). Peter _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Rebuilding RTL and FCL inside LazIDE
At 18:53 16-1-2008, you wrote: Al Boldi wrote: Christian U. wrote: RTL and FCL are never build while building lazarus its a bit hard to add an option for this i think. Assume I have both debug and release versions build myself. Mattias, what is needed to add rebuilding RTL/FCL from within the IDE? This is goining into the wron direction. I don't think this is a good idea to add to an IDE. Because recompiling the RTL means that you need to recompile all installed units. For fpc we are working on a package system that can help in this dependency issue. This can maybe included as an tool, but the functionalitiy should not be included in the IDE. Peter _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IntraWeb
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 12:50:42AM +1000, SteveG wrote: Just wondering if there has been any advance on an 'IntraWeb' interface at all ? and secondly - is it at all possible to use a (licenced) copy of Intraweb itself within Lazarus ? I'm not aware of any attempts. Indy works though (9 and 10) But if you don't have full intraweb source for each an every component (including parts in Delphi that FPC/Laz don't implement), then there is no chance at all. Maybe a quick AtoZed would give an idea? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Cannot reach lazarus.freepascal.org
Gerard N/A ha scritto: Is anybody able to reach http://lazarus.freepascal.org? I get a timeout after the address is resolved. It appears to be down. http://www.freepascal.org/ works, http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/ works, but http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org doesn't. Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Sound in Lazarus applications
Their wiki is being attacked :P http://acs.ullihome.de/acs/index.php/Talk:Main_Page _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Cannot reach lazarus.freepascal.org
Giuliano Colla wrote: Gerard N/A ha scritto: Is anybody able to reach http://lazarus.freepascal.org? I get a timeout after the address is resolved. It appears to be down. http://www.freepascal.org/ works, http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/ works, but http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org doesn't. They are 3 differnet servers, all in different countries and www.lazarus.freepascal.org is even at a different continent Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Patch for processing WM_COPYDATA in Win32 / BugID 9210
Some time ago I reported a problem with sending WM_COPYDATA-Messages
under windows:
http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=9210
As far as I could find the function WindowProc in win32callback.inc eats
up the message so it never reaches the MessageHandler defined in the app.
So I changed LCL\interfaces\win32\win32callback.inc
This is the diff-File:
Index: win32callback.inc
===
--- win32callback.inc (revision 13779)
+++ win32callback.inc (working copy)
@@ -1141,6 +1141,13 @@
Assert(False, Format('Trace:WindowProc - Window Value: $%S-%d; Msg
Value: %S; WParam: $%S; LParam: $%S', [IntToHex(Window, 4), Window,
WM_To_String(Msg), IntToHex(WParam, sizeof(WParam)*4), IntToHex(LParam,
sizeof(LParam)*4)]));
case Msg of
+ WM_COPYDATA: // passthrough of WM_COPYDATA-Messages
+ begin
+ LMessage.Msg := Msg;
+ LMessage.WParam := WParam;
+ LMessage.LParam := LParam;
+ WinProcess := false;
+ end;
WM_ACTIVATE:
begin
case LOWORD(WParam) Of
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Lukas
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Re: [lazarus] Patch for processing WM_COPYDATA in Win32 / BugID 9210
On Jan 16, 2008 8:02 PM, Lukas Gradl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some time ago I reported a problem with sending WM_COPYDATA-Messages under windows: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=9210 Did you ever test with the PassWin32MessagesToLCL define: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/LCL_Defines#Win32_defines ? In recent subversion Lazarus user messages are activated by default (the define I mentioned above no longer exists), could you test if this solves your problem without the patch? -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Patch for processing WM_COPYDATA in Win32 / BugID 9210
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: On Jan 16, 2008 8:02 PM, Lukas Gradl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some time ago I reported a problem with sending WM_COPYDATA-Messages under windows: http://bugs.freepascal.org/view.php?id=9210 Did you ever test with the PassWin32MessagesToLCL define: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/LCL_Defines#Win32_defines ? In recent subversion Lazarus user messages are activated by default (the define I mentioned above no longer exists), could you test if this solves your problem without the patch? Already done that - it has no influence on WM_COPYDATA. regards Lukas -- software security networks Lukas Gradl lazarus#ssn.at Eduard-Bodem-Gasse 9 A - 6020 Innsbruck Tel: +43-720-300168-0 Fax: +43-512-341033-19 _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
RE: [lazarus] Cannot reach lazarus.freepascal.org
http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ has been unreachable for 2 days. Does anyone know who controls the switch for this? Thanks. -Phil -Original Message- From: Giuliano Colla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 1:21 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com Subject: Re: [lazarus] Cannot reach lazarus.freepascal.org Gerard N/A ha scritto: Is anybody able to reach http://lazarus.freepascal.org? I get a timeout after the address is resolved. It appears to be down. http://www.freepascal.org/ works, http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/ works, but http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org doesn't. Giuliano -- Giuliano Colla Whenever people agree with me, I always feel I must be wrong (O. Wilde) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Cannot reach lazarus.freepascal.org
Hess, Philip J schreef: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/ has been unreachable for 2 days. Does anyone know who controls the switch for this? Michael Hess. Email mhess at the same domain as this list. Vincent _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] Win32 docking solved!
Paul, i think you solved the win32 docking problem with the 13775 fix. (and it reminds me painfully i have been investigating those ws_child options myself without solving it :)) Anywhay, very exciting docking news, finally i can old style dock my configuration forms like i did in delphi. A very big Thank You from here! _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: Hi, 2008/1/16, Peter Vreman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 18:37 16-1-2008, you wrote: Hi, 2008/1/16, Christian U. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK guys now I OFFICIALLY close this very long, long thread! :) Are you trying to create an patch ? If not please inform me than i will do. I have just found a method to move ALL the debug data and symbols to an external .dbg file, obtaining a just stripped compiled file and the full debug functionalities (only with the .dbg file presents). Currently I must execute 3 steps to obtain this (after every compilation). I'm working to can do all with a single step (just on beta testing)! :) I can see only 2 steps: $ objcopy -R .text -R .data lazarus.exe lazarus1.dbg $ strip lazarus.exe Resulting files: -rwxr-xr-x 1 peter None 41551141 Jan 16 18:50 lazarus.dbg -rwxrwxrwx 1 peter None 7610368 Jan 16 18:51 lazarus.exe And for debugging: $ gdb lazarus.exe (gdb) br main No symbol table is loaded. Use the file command. (gdb) symbol-file lazarus1.dbg Reading symbols from /cygdrive/d/lazarus/lazarus.dbg...done. (gdb) br main Breakpoint 1 at 0x401bf9: file lazarus.pp, line 77. (gdb) I need 3 steps because I don not change the mode lazarus call the GDB. After my changes just a lazarus run to can use a stripped (as --strip-all) compiled file with all the debug data in an external file (and is possible debug also the LCL). Peter Wait a moment ! If this is possible with command line gdb, then it must be possible also from Lazarus IDE,right ? Or from executable itself to create stacktrace ? Could I just strip executable and provide external file .dbg and still get full stacktrace in case of exception ? Regards Boguslaw _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
[lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus
Hi, While google suggest rewards for developing applications for Android, there is an open source firmware named OpenMoko (http://openmoko.org/). I asked Michael Shiloh what are some of the requirement in building apps in different compilers (FPC to be exact, and I also mentioned Lazarus :)). Well all that is required is to bind ourself to the C libraries. I wonder what does it mean (other then binding) to make FPC and Lazarus to support such environment. Ido -- http://ik.homelinux.org/ _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Win32 docking solved!
Marius schrieb: Paul, i think you solved the win32 docking problem with the 13775 fix. (and it reminds me painfully i have been investigating those ws_child options myself without solving it :)) Anywhay, very exciting docking news, finally i can old style dock my configuration forms like i did in delphi. A very big Thank You from here! Also from me an bin thx. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Solution to the BIG compiled file issue!
$ gdb lazarus.exe (gdb) br main No symbol table is loaded. Use the file command. (gdb) symbol-file lazarus1.dbg Reading symbols from /cygdrive/d/lazarus/lazarus.dbg...done. (gdb) br main Breakpoint 1 at 0x401bf9: file lazarus.pp, line 77. (gdb) I need 3 steps because I don not change the mode lazarus call the GDB. After my changes just a lazarus run to can use a stripped (as --strip-all) compiled file with all the debug data in an external file (and is possible debug also the LCL). Peter Wait a moment ! If this is possible with command line gdb, then it must be possible also from Lazarus IDE,right ? Or from executable itself to create stacktrace ? Could I just strip executable and provide external file .dbg and still get full stacktrace in case of exception ? Thread continued on fpc-devel. Peter _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus
ik wrote: Hi, While google suggest rewards for developing applications for Android, there is an open source firmware named OpenMoko (http://openmoko.org/). I asked Michael Shiloh what are some of the requirement in building apps in different compilers (FPC to be exact, and I also mentioned Lazarus :)). Well all that is required is to bind ourself to the C libraries. I wonder what does it mean (other then binding) to make FPC and Lazarus to support such environment. I've been playing with that thought also (I've been following that project for a while now). It supports X and gtk so that part should work and AFAIK it runs some arm-linux so imo fpc could genererste some exe. Since there wasn't an (easy) emulator environment, I stopped thinging about it and didn't test. Marc _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] IntraWeb
Marco van de Voort wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 12:50:42AM +1000, SteveG wrote: Just wondering if there has been any advance on an 'IntraWeb' interface at all ? and secondly - is it at all possible to use a (licenced) copy of Intraweb itself within Lazarus ? I'm not aware of any attempts. Indy works though (9 and 10) But if you don't have full intraweb source for each an every component (including parts in Delphi that FPC/Laz don't implement), then there is no chance at all. Maybe a quick AtoZed would give an idea? Good idea - will contact AtoZed re: usage in FPC / Laz - Thanks _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
Re: [lazarus] Win32 docking solved!
2008/1/16, Christian U. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Marius schrieb: Paul, i think you solved the win32 docking problem with the 13775 fix. (and it reminds me painfully i have been investigating those ws_child options myself without solving it :))Hi, Anywhay, very exciting docking news, finally i can old style dock my configuration forms like i did in delphi. A very big Thank You from here! Also from me an bin thx. and from me too! ;) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives -- Best regards... Fabio Dell'Aria. _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives
