Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-16 Thread Janis L Gilmore
I had missed that, Jenny. Thanks.


On 8/15/08 6:17 PM, Jenny M Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marilyn Streeter wrote
 Thank  you all for the assistance.  I have been using the double quotes
 but only for instances such as Sarah Margaret Marg Smith.  When I use
 it for actually using the second given name, such as George Roland
 Roland Smith, it does pick up the second name but I really don't like
 the looks of the repeating of the second name on print outs.
 
 However if this is the only option for this I guess I will use it.
 
 As I told you in my earlier post, if you check the option for Remove
 quoted given names in Report Options - Format then it does not repeat
 the second name.  The first instance of the name will be George Roland
 Smith and thereafter it will be Roland.  (You also need to check Use
 quoted names for narratives, of course.)





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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-16 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Thanks, Ron. I had completely missed that.


On 8/15/08 6:55 PM, ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Janis,
 
 If I remember correctly it does but also has the disavantage that you cannot
 remove it without losing a name. For example not only would George Calvin
 Gilmore use Calvin when referring to the person eg. Calvin married - no
 quotes. but would write George Calvin Gilmore born 25 Dec 1881 with quotes.
 
 By using George Calvin Calvin Gilmore the only time the name in quotes
 appears is on your screens, provided that when compiling reports you have it
 set to remove names in quotes.
 
 
 Ron Ferguson
 
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 Does the middle name get picked up as the usage name for narratives if it
 isn't repeated? It seems silly (as in my example below) to write:
 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore
 
 Does it work if you just write:
 George Calvin Gilmore
 
 Doesn't the latter imply that Calvin is a nickname, rather than a middle
 name in general usage?
 
 Janis Walker Gilmore
 
 On 8/15/08 1:56 PM, Janis L Gilmore  wrote:
 
 Marilyn, I believe if you insert the name that is really used in quotes,
 Legacy should pick up that name and use it in narratives after the first
 time.
 
 For instance:
 
 Mary Caroline Molly Walker
 
 My husband also uses his middle name - in his case it would be:
 
 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore
 
 Janis
 
 
 On 8/15/08 12:41 PM, Marilyn Streeter  wrote:
 
 
 Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name
 instead
 of their first given name. I have shown that the second name was the one
 they used by putting the second name in capitals. However my problem arises
 when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used. For
 instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses
 but
 in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.
 
 I am one of these people who uses my second name.
 
 Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the used
 given name properly?
 
 Thank you
 
 Marilyn
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-16 Thread cabyers
I was not aware of the work-around to get Legacy to use a nickname in a
narrative report?  It seems a little convolved to me?  I'd like to suggest
that Legacy modify their software to let you select one of the alternate,
given names from the AKA list.  This would require adding a feature to the
AKA file to select a preferred name for narrative reports and link it to the
report, options menu.  This would seem to be a more logical way to do it?

Carol


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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports


Janis,

If I remember correctly it does but also has the disavantage that you cannot
remove it without losing a name. For example not only would George Calvin
Gilmore use Calvin when referring to the person eg. Calvin married - no
quotes. but would write George Calvin Gilmore born 25 Dec 1881 with
quotes.

By using George Calvin Calvin Gilmore the only time the name in quotes
appears is on your screens, provided that when compiling reports you have it
set to remove names in quotes. 


Ron Ferguson

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 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:48:41 -0400
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports
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 Does the middle name get picked up as the usage name for narratives if it
 isn't repeated? It seems silly (as in my example below) to write:
 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

 Does it work if you just write:
 George Calvin Gilmore

 Doesn't the latter imply that Calvin is a nickname, rather than a middle
 name in general usage?

 Janis Walker Gilmore

 On 8/15/08 1:56 PM, Janis L Gilmore  wrote:

 Marilyn, I believe if you insert the name that is really used in quotes,
 Legacy should pick up that name and use it in narratives after the first
 time.

 For instance:

 Mary Caroline Molly Walker

 My husband also uses his middle name - in his case it would be:

 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

 Janis


 On 8/15/08 12:41 PM, Marilyn Streeter  wrote:


 Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name
instead
 of their first given name. I have shown that the second name was the one
 they used by putting the second name in capitals. However my problem
arises
 when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.
For
 instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses
but
 in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.

 I am one of these people who uses my second name.

 Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the
used
 given name properly?

 Thank you

 Marilyn

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RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-16 Thread Cary
Funny, I like the way it works now.  Having a reports name in addition to
the real names seems overly complicated to me.  However, if you always
want reports to show a specific name, you could always make that the chosen
name now and it would be the one that appears on reports.

Cary
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

I was not aware of the work-around to get Legacy to use a nickname in a
narrative report?  It seems a little convolved to me?  I'd like to suggest
that Legacy modify their software to let you select one of the alternate,
given names from the AKA list.  This would require adding a feature to the
AKA file to select a preferred name for narrative reports and link it to the
report, options menu.  This would seem to be a more logical way to do it?

Carol


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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports


Janis,

If I remember correctly it does but also has the disavantage that you cannot
remove it without losing a name. For example not only would George Calvin
Gilmore use Calvin when referring to the person eg. Calvin married - no
quotes. but would write George Calvin Gilmore born 25 Dec 1881 with
quotes.

By using George Calvin Calvin Gilmore the only time the name in quotes
appears is on your screens, provided that when compiling reports you have it
set to remove names in quotes. 


Ron Ferguson

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 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:48:41 -0400
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com


 Does the middle name get picked up as the usage name for narratives if it
 isn't repeated? It seems silly (as in my example below) to write:
 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

 Does it work if you just write:
 George Calvin Gilmore

 Doesn't the latter imply that Calvin is a nickname, rather than a middle
 name in general usage?

 Janis Walker Gilmore

 On 8/15/08 1:56 PM, Janis L Gilmore  wrote:

 Marilyn, I believe if you insert the name that is really used in quotes,
 Legacy should pick up that name and use it in narratives after the first
 time.

 For instance:

 Mary Caroline Molly Walker

 My husband also uses his middle name - in his case it would be:

 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

 Janis


 On 8/15/08 12:41 PM, Marilyn Streeter  wrote:


 Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name
instead
 of their first given name. I have shown that the second name was the one
 they used by putting the second name in capitals. However my problem
arises
 when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.
For
 instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses
but
 in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.

 I am one of these people who uses my second name.

 Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the
used
 given name properly?

 Thank you

 Marilyn

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[LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Marilyn Streeter

Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
of their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the one
they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my problem arises
when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.  For
instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses but
in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.

I am one of these people who uses my second name.

Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the used
given name properly?

Thank you

Marilyn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread John Carter
Put the preferred name in double quotes in the individual entry and check
the box for Use Quoted in the report options.  I don't remember whether
you can do this in all reports.  I have not tried it in the charts.

John


 Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name
 instead
 of their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the one
 they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my problem
 arises
 when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.
 For
 instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses
 but
 in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.

 I am one of these people who uses my second name.

 Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the
 used
 given name properly?

 Thank you

 Marilyn






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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread MJMethod
That's what the Nickname capability is for, in quotes (e.g., James Robert  
Bobbie Smith).
 

Mike

Michael J Method

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Some  of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
of  their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the  one
they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my  problem arises
when printing out reports is that the first given name is  always used.  For
instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is  the given name he uses but
in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn  was born Oct 21, 1910.

I am one of these people who uses my second  name.

Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to  state the used
given name properly?

Thank  you

Marilyn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Jenny M Benson

Marilyn Streeter wrote


Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name 
instead of their first given name.  I have shown that the second name 
was the one they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However 
my problem arises when printing out reports is that the first given 
name is always used.  For instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that 
David is the given name he uses but in a register report I get the 
sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.


I am one of these people who uses my second name.

Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the 
used given name properly?


Yes, there is!

What you need to do is enter the forenames as Shawn David Shawn and 
when printing reports, in the Report Options on the Format tab, you can 
select Use quoted names for narratives and Remove quoted given 
names.  If you tick both these options, the first mention will read 
Shawn David Smith was born  and further mentions will be David 
was baptised etc.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Marilyn, I believe if you insert the name that is really used in quotes,
Legacy should pick up that name and use it in narratives after the first
time.

For instance:

Mary Caroline Molly Walker

My husband also uses his middle name - in his case it would be:

George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

Janis


On 8/15/08 12:41 PM, Marilyn Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
 of their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the one
 they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my problem arises
 when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.  For
 instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses but
 in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.
 
 I am one of these people who uses my second name.
 
 Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the used
 given name properly?
 
 Thank you
 
 Marilyn
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Cary
If you use quotes instead of capitals you can have the preferred name in
reports.  So Alpha Beta Beta Jones, or Albert Bert Smith will show as
Beta and Bert.


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Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
of their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the one
they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my problem arises
when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.  For
instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses but
in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.

I am one of these people who uses my second name.

Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the used
given name properly?

Thank you

Marilyn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Bert van Kootwijk

Put David between quotes. That does the trick.

You can find this also in the Help.

Bert


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Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
of their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the one
they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my problem arises
when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.  For
instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses but
in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.

I am one of these people who uses my second name.

Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the used
given name properly?

Thank you

Marilyn




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RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Margaret Couch
Marilyn
I'm including the relevant bits from the Help screens. In my case it means
my name looks like this on the data entry screens: Pamela Margaret
Margaret Pegler. 

From the Help screens:
You can enter a familiar name as part of the given names by enclosing it
in quotes.  For example, Margaret Peggy Ann.  This familiar name can then
be used in narrative paragraphs when a book report is generated.  (See the
Use Quoted Names for Narratives topic in the Format tab section of Report
Options.)

Use Quoted Names for Narratives-If names have been entered within quotation
marks, use them in narrative sections.  For example, William Bill Martin
would use Bill in narrative paragraphs.

Removed Quoted Given Names-Exclude quoted given names. William Bill Martin
would appear as William Martin.

I opt to remove the quoted given names so that my full name appears in
headings without the 2nd, middle name in quotes and I underline Margaret
(highlight, CTRL+u). It isn't a good idea to write given names in uppercase
as it is a general genealogy convention to indicate surnames by the use of
uppercase words. 

To make things absolutely clear, I have also created an event which says
that Margaret was named Pamela Margaret at birth but always known as
Margaret. (I don't like the way the AKA sentence reads)

Hope that helps - play around with different report types and see how
various options look
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Kind Regards
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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Janis L Gilmore

Does the middle name get picked up as the usage name for narratives if it
isn't repeated? It seems silly (as in my example below) to write:
George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

Does it work if you just write:
George Calvin Gilmore

Doesn't the latter imply that Calvin is a nickname, rather than a middle
name in general usage?

Janis Walker Gilmore

On 8/15/08 1:56 PM, Janis L Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marilyn, I believe if you insert the name that is really used in quotes,
 Legacy should pick up that name and use it in narratives after the first
 time.
 
 For instance:
 
 Mary Caroline Molly Walker
 
 My husband also uses his middle name - in his case it would be:
 
 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore
 
 Janis
 
 
 On 8/15/08 12:41 PM, Marilyn Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
 of their first given name.  I have shown that the second name was the one
 they used by putting the second name in capitals.  However my problem arises
 when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used.  For
 instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses but
 in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.
 
 I am one of these people who uses my second name.
 
 Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the used
 given name properly?
 
 Thank you
 
 Marilyn
 
 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Marilyn Streeter
Thank  you all for the assistance.  I have been using the double quotes but
only for instances such as Sarah Margaret Marg Smith.  When I use it for
actually using the second given name, such as George Roland Roland Smith,
it does pick up the second name but I really don't like the looks of the
repeating of the second name on print outs.

However if this is the only option for this I guess I will use it.

Thanks

Marilyn

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If you use quotes instead of capitals you can have the preferred name in
reports.  So Alpha Beta Beta Jones, or Albert Bert Smith will show as
Beta and Bert.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Elsie Saar
Personally I like the way the Germans do it in their church books, 
underline the name the person is called.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread ronald ferguson

Janis,

If I remember correctly it does but also has the disavantage that you cannot 
remove it without losing a name. For example not only would George Calvin 
Gilmore use Calvin when referring to the person eg. Calvin married - no quotes. 
but would write George Calvin Gilmore born 25 Dec 1881 with quotes.

By using George Calvin Calvin Gilmore the only time the name in quotes 
appears is on your screens, provided that when compiling reports you have it 
set to remove names in quotes. 


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 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:48:41 -0400
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports
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 Does the middle name get picked up as the usage name for narratives if it
 isn't repeated? It seems silly (as in my example below) to write:
 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

 Does it work if you just write:
 George Calvin Gilmore

 Doesn't the latter imply that Calvin is a nickname, rather than a middle
 name in general usage?

 Janis Walker Gilmore

 On 8/15/08 1:56 PM, Janis L Gilmore  wrote:

 Marilyn, I believe if you insert the name that is really used in quotes,
 Legacy should pick up that name and use it in narratives after the first
 time.

 For instance:

 Mary Caroline Molly Walker

 My husband also uses his middle name - in his case it would be:

 George Calvin Calvin Gilmore

 Janis


 On 8/15/08 12:41 PM, Marilyn Streeter  wrote:


 Some of the people I have in my database use their second given name instead
 of their first given name. I have shown that the second name was the one
 they used by putting the second name in capitals. However my problem arises
 when printing out reports is that the first given name is always used. For
 instance Shawn DAVID Smith shows me that David is the given name he uses but
 in a register report I get the sentence, Shawn was born Oct 21, 1910.

 I am one of these people who uses my second name.

 Is there a way to correct this besides editing the report to state the used
 given name properly?

 Thank you

 Marilyn

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Re: [LegacyUG] Use of Correct Given Name in reports

2008-08-15 Thread Jenny M Benson

Marilyn Streeter wrote
Thank  you all for the assistance.  I have been using the double quotes 
but only for instances such as Sarah Margaret Marg Smith.  When I use 
it for actually using the second given name, such as George Roland 
Roland Smith, it does pick up the second name but I really don't like 
the looks of the repeating of the second name on print outs.


However if this is the only option for this I guess I will use it.


As I told you in my earlier post, if you check the option for Remove 
quoted given names in Report Options - Format then it does not repeat 
the second name.  The first instance of the name will be George Roland 
Smith and thereafter it will be Roland.  (You also need to check Use 
quoted names for narratives, of course.)

--
Jenny M Benson



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