RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail (using Legacy 7)
Hi Cathy, Thanks for your response. but I still need help. Using a census record for example. In the past (Legacy 6) in the Master source list-- For the source list name I recorded it as 1860 US Census: Washington DC. FRASER, James (I could easily find my sources because they are sorted datelocation alphabetically by last name so even though I have about 30 entries from the 1860 Census in DC I could quickly find the correct family) In the publication facts I'd have something like. Year: 1860; Census Place: Washington Ward 7, Washington, District of Columbia; Roll: M432_57; Page: 120; Image: 243. but I didn't always enter the information in a uniform manner (thus looking forward to some help standardizing this part of my sources). With Legacy 7 I used the Source writer template to enter a census record. I feel that the SourceWriter Templates are set up more for lumping your sources and thus I'd have one entry for the 1860 US Census. Following the template my publication details are then listed in the source detail. I also include a transcription of the household information in the text of the source and an image of the actual census page. I'm okay through all of that but -- how do you IN THE MASTER SOURCE LIST view the source details?? At this point I can select the source 1860 census, create a user list and go to an individual user, open the source and see the details but that frankly is a heck of a lot of work AND more importantly for me I lose the ability to have the source entries grouped by location and name I am hoping that there is some way to scroll thru the master source list with the option of viewing the source detail without having to go to an individual. Even if I go back to my old way of entering the Source list name so I could easily find the individual family entry and have lots of sources (not a problem for me) I then lose my publication details which I used to look at as I scrolled through my sources to see who for example lived in the same Enumeration District, etc because these are 'hidden' in the source detail if I use the new templates. Thanks for any insight you might be able to provide. Angela -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cathy Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 7:30 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail (using Legacy 7) Hi Angela, I can't imagine never having used Source Detail ;-) What you are missing, I think, is the Source Clipboard. You can load a Master Source plus Source detail onto the Source Clipboard and then use that to attach both to any other event or individual. If you've already entered the source detail for someone, you go to their Assigned Sources screen and highlight the Master Source and Source detail line you want and use the Copy to Source Clipboard button. Cathy At 11:53 PM 27/05/2008, you wrote: Hi, I am a SPLITTER with my sources having a master source for each family in each census. I have NEVER used the source detail. With the new SourceWriter I am experimenting with LUMPING having just one master source for each census year. My problem. in the source detail I added the detail text with all of my individual family's census details.(ie name, age, profession, etc for everyone in the household). I can use that for the first person when adding a master source but for the next family member when I cite a master source I don't see how to re-use the same source detail without re-entering all of the source details all over again. What am I missing?? *** I am NOT trying to start a discussion about Lumping and Spliting one's source list.. If you are new to this list and curious there is lengthy discussion of this topic in the archives (see link at the bottom of this message) a few months ago. *** Thanks, Angela Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail (using Legacy 7)
Hi Angela, I've never thought about using Sources the way you have to find if people live near each other. You could find this out by doing a search on Source Detail - possible in Legacy 7. The Master Source templates for US Censuses are set up to have a Master Source for each County - Far too many Master Sources for me who likes one per year. Though from memory you can leave out the location information for the Master Source and have one per year. Sorry I'm not sure how that flows through in Source Detail as I don't work with US Censuses. You can't scroll through the Master Source list and get access to the detail except by going to the individuals using it. You can print (to PDF) a Source Citation report and scroll through that. I'd tag the relevant 1860 Census Master Source or Sources and print a report on that with full citation details included. Jumping from a Master Source for every household to one Master Source for the year is a big jump and you may want to use the Source Template as designed to have a Master Source for each relevant county in the US. Cathy At 04:34 AM 30/05/2008, you wrote: Hi Cathy, Thanks for your response. but I still need help. Using a census record for example. In the past (Legacy 6) in the Master source list-- For the source list name I recorded it as 1860 US Census: Washington DC. FRASER, James (I could easily find my sources because they are sorted datelocation alphabetically by last name so even though I have about 30 entries from the 1860 Census in DC I could quickly find the correct family) In the publication facts I'd have something like. Year: 1860; Census Place: Washington Ward 7, Washington, District of Columbia; Roll: M432_57; Page: 120; Image: 243. but I didn't always enter the information in a uniform manner (thus looking forward to some help standardizing this part of my sources). With Legacy 7 I used the Source writer template to enter a census record. I feel that the SourceWriter Templates are set up more for lumping your sources and thus I'd have one entry for the 1860 US Census. Following the template my publication details are then listed in the source detail. I also include a transcription of the household information in the text of the source and an image of the actual census page. I'm okay through all of that but -- how do you IN THE MASTER SOURCE LIST view the source details?? At this point I can select the source 1860 census, create a user list and go to an individual user, open the source and see the details but that frankly is a heck of a lot of work AND more importantly for me I lose the ability to have the source entries grouped by location and name I am hoping that there is some way to scroll thru the master source list with the option of viewing the source detail without having to go to an individual. Even if I go back to my old way of entering the Source list name so I could easily find the individual family entry and have lots of sources (not a problem for me) I then lose my publication details which I used to look at as I scrolled through my sources to see who for example lived in the same Enumeration District, etc because these are 'hidden' in the source detail if I use the new templates. Thanks for any insight you might be able to provide. Angela Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Source Detail (using Legacy 7)
Angela, I'm not a splitter and have never tried to work out how to source this way. However it looks to me as though highlighting the Source in the list and clicking edit will give you what you need. Otherwise if using the Source Clipboard, again click edit and at the top of the page it says Select or Change Master Source and that also should do it. It maybe that someone with direct experience in splitting can help you better. Ron Ferguson _ New Blog: Free Contacts Database for use with Open Office http://www.fergys.co.uk View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Detail (using Legacy 7) Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 11:53:27 -0400 Hi, I am a “SPLITTER” with my sources having a master source for each family in each census. I have NEVER used the source detail. With the new SourceWriter I am experimenting with LUMPING having just one master source for each census year. My problem… in the source detail I added the detail text with all of my individual family’s census details…(ie name, age, profession, etc for everyone in the household). I can use that for the first person when “adding a master source” but for the next family member when I “cite a master source” I don’t see how to re-use the same source detail without re-entering all of the source details all over again. What am I missing?? *** I am NOT trying to start a discussion about Lumping and Spliting one’s source list…. If you are new to this list and curious there is lengthy discussion of this topic in the archives (see link at the bottom of this message) a few months ago. *** Thanks, Angela _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl001002ukm/direct/01/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Source Detail (using Legacy 7)
Hi Angela, I can't imagine never having used Source Detail ;-) What you are missing, I think, is the Source Clipboard. You can load a Master Source plus Source detail onto the Source Clipboard and then use that to attach both to any other event or individual. If you've already entered the source detail for someone, you go to their Assigned Sources screen and highlight the Master Source and Source detail line you want and use the Copy to Source Clipboard button. For more information on using the Source Clipboard check out Help and/or the Training Videos. Cathy At 11:53 PM 27/05/2008, you wrote: Hi, I am a SPLITTER with my sources having a master source for each family in each census. I have NEVER used the source detail. With the new SourceWriter I am experimenting with LUMPING having just one master source for each census year. My problem in the source detail I added the detail text with all of my individual familys census details (ie name, age, profession, etc for everyone in the household). I can use that for the first person when adding a master source but for the next family member when I cite a master source I dont see how to re-use the same source detail without re-entering all of the source details all over again. What am I missing?? *** I am NOT trying to start a discussion about Lumping and Spliting ones source list . If you are new to this list and curious there is lengthy discussion of this topic in the archives (see link at the bottom of this message) a few months ago. *** Thanks, Angela Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
