RE: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
Could someone tell me what the A with a hat on means – and I can hear you all laughing !!! Remember when starting we were all told that there is no silly question in genealogy !! Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney From: anair...@insightbb.com [mailto:anair...@insightbb.com] Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 3:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 I keep My Documents folder in Dropbox and have for a long time.  I want to add that Legacy 8 installed these folders perfectly in Dropbox/My Documents/LegacyFamily Tree. Thus I have a constant backup it can be accessed by all my computers.  Thank you Legacy On 1/4/2014 10:31 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: Cathy,  This explanation is excellent!  A keeper, for when I finally upgrade.  It does indeed clarify the upgrade process and foundational changes that come with v8.  THANKS!  --Paula in Texas From: Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. You can use these folders for your own data or put your own data wherever you like. If you know you have good backups of your Legacy 7 data and you are happy with where the Legacy 7 data is, you can convert the files where they are. You can't go back from Legacy 8 so without a good backup, you can't still use Legacy 7 for that report you must have today but find there is a bug in Legacy 8. I wouldn't convert files where they are but I'm a belt and braces person when it comes to important data. Most likely wherever the converted file is you'll find your media is still all linked. If you want your data somewhere other than where your Legacy 7 data is or the new default location THEN you need to open Legacy 8 with the Sample file and change the Default Location for data in the options - customise 6.1 BEFORE asking to open your own file(s). Legacy 8 will offer to copy it to the Default Data Location - whatever is listed in 6.1 and convert it there. Note that all the Options - Customise settings now have a number. Some people find that some or all of the media is not still linked. This is because over the years the exact way the link has been saved has changed and if you've never shifted the media, Legacy has been very accommodating. The programmers realised that by being so accommodating, they were sometimes linking to a different photo of the same name so have made changes to ensure this doesn't happen. If some or all of your media isn't linked after the conversion, using the Media Relinker Tool is the easiest way to go. Those reading this who have been using the old Legacy defaults of C:\Legacy\Data ad C:\Legacy\Pictures etc would be wise to let Legacy 8 help you move to the new defaults with the conversion open to copy the file to the new default and then convert - and the Gather my Media Tool to copy your media if you're not confident with using Windows/File Explorer to move files around. Does that clarify at all? Cathy  At 05:16 AM 17/12/2013, you wrote: I too have been curious about this. The folder structure of Legacy 7 and earlier was different from what I've seen/heard for Legacy 8. For Legacy 7 and earlier I believe the default was: Data docs pictures sounds videos (Or was Data folder, by default, at the same level as the others . . . I forget) But with Legacy 8 it appears it is: main folder data media Do pictures, sounds, videos, and docs all default to this one media folder now? (assuming one starts from scratch and accepts the defaults.) I do not see a way to individually specify these individual media locations under Legacy 8 - all I see is ONE setting at 6.2. Do they get stored in sub-folders under media, such as: media/pictures media/docs media/video media/sounds What about when I open my Legacy 7 file using Legacy 8 and it converts it and makes a brand new database, does it move EVERYTHING to the new location(s)? Or are my pictures left at their old location? Personally, I've always created this folder structure to avoid the windows rules when it gets stored under My Documents. This allowed others to more easily get to the files if they logged into my computer under their name. windata legacy7 ,,,PattonTree ,,,...Data ,,,...Docs
RE: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
It’s a format control or other character (I’ve seen apostrophes translated to it) that hasn’t translated properly from one email system to another. From: Valerie B Garton [mailto:vbgar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:55 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Could someone tell me what the A with a hat on means – and I can hear you all laughing !!! Remember when starting we were all told that there is no silly question in genealogy !! Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney From: anair...@insightbb.com [mailto:anair...@insightbb.com] Sent: Sunday, 5 January 2014 3:47 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 I keep My Documents folder in Dropbox and have for a long time.  I want to add that Legacy 8 installed these folders perfectly in Dropbox/My Documents/LegacyFamily Tree. Thus I have a constant backup it can be accessed by all my computers.  Thank you Legacy On 1/4/2014 10:31 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: Cathy,  This explanation is excellent!  A keeper, for when I finally upgrade.  It does indeed clarify the upgrade process and foundational changes that come with v8.  THANKS!  --Paula in Texas From: Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. You can use these folders for your own data or put your own data wherever you like. If you know you have good backups of your Legacy 7 data and you are happy with where the Legacy 7 data is, you can convert the files where they are. You can't go back from Legacy 8 so without a good backup, you can't still use Legacy 7 for that report you must have today but find there is a bug in Legacy 8. I wouldn't convert files where they are but I'm a belt and braces person when it comes to important data. Most likely wherever the converted file is you'll find your media is still all linked. If you want your data somewhere other than where your Legacy 7 data is or the new default location THEN you need to open Legacy 8 with the Sample file and change the Default Location for data in the options - customise 6.1 BEFORE asking to open your own file(s). Legacy 8 will offer to copy it to the Default Data Location - whatever is listed in 6.1 and convert it there. Note that all the Options - Customise settings now have a number. Some people find that some or all of the media is not still linked. This is because over the years the exact way the link has been saved has changed and if you've never shifted the media, Legacy has been very accommodating. The programmers realised that by being so accommodating, they were sometimes linking to a different photo of the same name so have made changes to ensure this doesn't happen. If some or all of your media isn't linked after the conversion, using the Media Relinker Tool is the easiest way to go. Those reading this who have been using the old Legacy defaults of C:\Legacy\Data ad C:\Legacy\Pictures etc would be wise to let Legacy 8 help you move to the new defaults with the conversion open to copy the file to the new default and then convert - and the Gather my Media Tool to copy your media if you're not confident with using Windows/File Explorer to move files around. Does that clarify at all? Cathy  At 05:16 AM 17/12/2013, you wrote: I too have been curious about this. The folder structure of Legacy 7 and earlier was different from what I've seen/heard for Legacy 8. For Legacy 7 and earlier I believe the default was: Data ...docs ...pictures ...sounds ...videos (Or was Data folder, by default, at the same level as the others . . . I forget) But with Legacy 8 it appears it is: main folder ...data ...media Do pictures, sounds, videos, and docs all default to this one media folder now? (assuming one starts from scratch and accepts the defaults.) I do not see a way to individually specify these individual media locations under Legacy 8 - all I see is ONE setting at 6.2. Do they get stored in sub-folders under media, such as: ...media/pictures ...media/docs ...media/video ...media/sounds What about when I open my Legacy 7 file using Legacy 8 and it converts it and makes a brand new database, does it move EVERYTHING to the new location(s)? Or are my pictures left
RE: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
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Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
Cathy, This explanation is excellent! A keeper, for when I finally upgrade. It does indeed clarify the upgrade process and foundational changes that come with v8. THANKS! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. You can use these folders for your own data or put your own data wherever you like. If you know you have good backups of your Legacy 7 data and you are happy with where the Legacy 7 data is, you can convert the files where they are. You can't go back from Legacy 8 so without a good backup, you can't still use Legacy 7 for that report you must have today but find there is a bug in Legacy 8. I wouldn't convert files where they are but I'm a belt and braces person when it comes to important data. Most likely wherever the converted file is you'll find your media is still all linked. If you want your data somewhere other than where your Legacy 7 data is or the new default location THEN you need to open Legacy 8 with the Sample file and change the Default Location for data in the options - customise 6.1 BEFORE asking to open your own file(s). Legacy 8 will offer to copy it to the Default Data Location - whatever is listed in 6.1 and convert it there. Note that all the Options - Customise settings now have a number. Some people find that some or all of the media is not still linked. This is because over the years the exact way the link has been saved has changed and if you've never shifted the media, Legacy has been very accommodating. The programmers realised that by being so accommodating, they were sometimes linking to a different photo of the same name so have made changes to ensure this doesn't happen. If some or all of your media isn't linked after the conversion, using the Media Relinker Tool is the easiest way to go. Those reading this who have been using the old Legacy defaults of C:\Legacy\Data ad C:\Legacy\Pictures etc would be wise to let Legacy 8 help you move to the new defaults with the conversion open to copy the file to the new default and then convert - and the Gather my Media Tool to copy your media if you're not confident with using Windows/File Explorer to move files around. Does that clarify at all? Cathy At 05:16 AM 17/12/2013, you wrote: I too have been curious about this. The folder structure of Legacy 7 and earlier was different from what I've seen/heard for Legacy 8. For Legacy 7 and earlier I believe the default was: Data ...docs ...pictures ...sounds ...videos (Or was Data folder, by default, at the same level as the others . . . I forget) But with Legacy 8 it appears it is: main folder ...data ...media Do pictures, sounds, videos, and docs all default to this one media folder now? (assuming one starts from scratch and accepts the defaults.) I do not see a way to individually specify these individual media locations under Legacy 8 - all I see is ONE setting at 6.2. Do they get stored in sub-folders under media, such as: ...media/pictures ...media/docs ...media/video ...media/sounds What about when I open my Legacy 7 file using Legacy 8 and it converts it and makes a brand new database, does it move EVERYTHING to the new location(s)? Or are my pictures left at their old location? Personally, I've always created this folder structure to avoid the windows rules when it gets stored under My Documents. This allowed others to more easily get to the files if they logged into my computer under their name. windata ...legacy7 ...,,,PattonTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,TestTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,SampleTree etc. I'm using the ... and ,,, as a simple way to indicate a folder level. A more accurate way of showing it would be: C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Data C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Docs C:\windata\Legacy-v7
Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
I keep My Documents folder in Dropbox and have for a long time. I want to add that Legacy 8 installed these folders perfectly in Dropbox/My Documents/LegacyFamily Tree. Thus I have a constant backup it can be accessed by all my computers. Thank you Legacy On 1/4/2014 10:31 AM, Paula Ryburn wrote: Cathy, This explanation is excellent! A keeper, for when I finally upgrade. It does indeed clarify the upgrade process and foundational changes that come with v8. THANKS! --Paula in Texas *From:* Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com *Sent:* Monday, December 16, 2013 10:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. You can use these folders for your own data or put your own data wherever you like. If you know you have good backups of your Legacy 7 data and you are happy with where the Legacy 7 data is, you can convert the files where they are. You can't go back from Legacy 8 so without a good backup, you can't still use Legacy 7 for that report you must have today but find there is a bug in Legacy 8. I wouldn't convert files where they are but I'm a belt and braces person when it comes to important data. Most likely wherever the converted file is you'll find your media is still all linked. If you want your data somewhere other than where your Legacy 7 data is or the new default location THEN you need to open Legacy 8 with the Sample file and change the Default Location for data in the options - customise 6.1 BEFORE asking to open your own file(s). Legacy 8 will offer to copy it to the Default Data Location - whatever is listed in 6.1 and convert it there. Note that all the Options - Customise settings now have a number. Some people find that some or all of the media is not still linked. This is because over the years the exact way the link has been saved has changed and if you've never shifted the media, Legacy has been very accommodating. The programmers realised that by being so accommodating, they were sometimes linking to a different photo of the same name so have made changes to ensure this doesn't happen. If some or all of your media isn't linked after the conversion, using the Media Relinker Tool is the easiest way to go. Those reading this who have been using the old Legacy defaults of C:\Legacy\Data ad C:\Legacy\Pictures etc would be wise to let Legacy 8 help you move to the new defaults with the conversion open to copy the file to the new default and then convert - and the Gather my Media Tool to copy your media if you're not confident with using Windows/File Explorer to move files around. Does that clarify at all? Cathy At 05:16 AM 17/12/2013, you wrote: I too have been curious about this. The folder structure of Legacy 7 and earlier was different from what I've seen/heard for Legacy 8. For Legacy 7 and earlier I believe the default was: Data ...docs ...pictures ...sounds ...videos (Or was Data folder, by default, at the same level as the others . . . I forget) But with Legacy 8 it appears it is: main folder ...data ...media Do pictures, sounds, videos, and docs all default to this one media folder now? (assuming one starts from scratch and accepts the defaults.) I do not see a way to individually specify these individual media locations under Legacy 8 - all I see is ONE setting at 6.2. Do they get stored in sub-folders under media, such as: ...media/pictures ...media/docs ...media/video ...media/sounds What about when I open my Legacy 7 file using Legacy 8 and it converts it and makes a brand new database, does it move EVERYTHING to the new location(s)? Or are my pictures left at their old location? Personally, I've always created this folder structure to avoid the windows rules when it gets stored under My Documents. This allowed others to more easily get to the files if they logged into my computer under their name. windata ...legacy7 ...,,,PattonTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,TestTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,SampleTree etc. I'm using the ... and ,,, as a simple way to indicate a folder level. A more accurate way of showing it would be: C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Data C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Docs C:\windata
RE: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
I didn't install to the default Legacy folder and I do have a Legacy Family Tree Folder under C:\Users\Claude\Documents aka C:\Users\Claude\My Documents ... C.G. Ouimet Kingston ON -Original Message- From: R G Strong-genes [mailto:rgstrongge...@gmail.com] Sent: December 17, 2013 04:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Probably because you did not use the default installation. -Original Message- From: Susan Perrett Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:41 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Hi Cathy Pinner, I beg to differ - I do not have a folder called Legacy Family Tree in My Documents - in fact I don't have a folder anywhere on my computer called that. I wonder why! At 03:59 PM 17/12/2013, you wrote: Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. Cathy Susan Perrett Melbourne, Australia English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, --- Russell G. Strong P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy program can be downloaded FREE at http://www.legacyfamilytreestore.com/Articles.asp?ID=133Click=1114 Oh so many branches and not enough time to check out all the roots!!!. Check out my Genealogy Pages at http://www.rgstrong-genes.com . Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
Hi, I have not yet upgraded to v8 and have just been lurking on the list, reading some threads on the upgrade... but am I reading this correctly? All my media will be unlinked during the upgrade process?? I mean, I see you say there are two new tools to help me relink my media, but surely I shouldn't have to DO anything... the upgrade process should give me a fully linked, fully functional set of data, right? Call me naive, but I can't imagine Millenia would be that sloppy. Thanks in advance for clearing up my misunderstanding, --Paula snip The pictures will also be there but just not linked properly in the converted file. Legacy 8 has two new tools to help you. The first one in the Media Relinker. This may take a while but it will help you relink all your media. The second one is the Gather My Media tool. This can help you gather all your media into one folder if it is scattered all over the place OR can gather just the odd file that you forgot to put into your media folder or a sub-folder of that media folder. snip Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
After I went from 7.5 to 8 all of my links were intact. I didn't have to relink anything. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, I have not yet upgraded to v8 and have just been lurking on the list, reading some threads on the upgrade... but am I reading this correctly? All my media will be unlinked during the upgrade process?? I mean, I see you say there are two new tools to help me relink my media, but surely I shouldn't have to DO anything... the upgrade process should give me a fully linked, fully functional set of data, right? Call me naive, but I can't imagine Millenia would be that sloppy. Thanks in advance for clearing up my misunderstanding, --Paula snip The pictures will also be there but just not linked properly in the converted file. Legacy 8 has two new tools to help you. The first one in the Media Relinker. This may take a while but it will help you relink all your media. The second one is the Gather My Media tool. This can help you gather all your media into one folder if it is scattered all over the place OR can gather just the odd file that you forgot to put into your media folder or a sub-folder of that media folder. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
I, like Sherry, had no (as in zero) problems with the media. A check of media files using OptionsCustomizelocations indicated all media files were found. Browsing through the data afterwards has revealed that all appear to be in place in V8. I used the copy file and convert method to import the V7 data. Bobby -Original Message- From: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 2:23 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 That's not true. I had absolutely no problems with pictures when I converted my file from the v7.5 format to v8. They were all there as before. The Media Relinker is a great tool for relinking pictures if necessary, but I didn't need to use it. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, I have not yet upgraded to v8 and have just been lurking on the list, reading some threads on the upgrade... but am I reading this correctly? All my media will be unlinked during the upgrade process?? I mean, I see you say there are two new tools to help me relink my media, but surely I shouldn't have to DO anything... the upgrade process should give me a fully linked, fully functional set of data, right? Call me naive, but I can't imagine Millenia would be that sloppy. Thanks in advance for clearing up my misunderstanding, --Paula snip The pictures will also be there but just not linked properly in the converted file. Legacy 8 has two new tools to help you. The first one in the Media Relinker. This may take a while but it will help you relink all your media. The second one is the Gather My Media tool. This can help you gather all your media into one folder if it is scattered all over the place OR can gather just the odd file that you forgot to put into your media folder or a sub-folder of that media folder. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
I too have been curious about this. The folder structure of Legacy 7 and earlier was different from what I've seen/heard for Legacy 8. For Legacy 7 and earlier I believe the default was: Data ...docs ...pictures ...sounds ...videos (Or was Data folder, by default, at the same level as the others . . . I forget) But with Legacy 8 it appears it is: main folder ...data ...media Do pictures, sounds, videos, and docs all default to this one media folder now? (assuming one starts from scratch and accepts the defaults.) I do not see a way to individually specify these individual media locations under Legacy 8 - all I see is ONE setting at 6.2. Do they get stored in sub-folders under media, such as: ...media/pictures ...media/docs ...media/video ...media/sounds What about when I open my Legacy 7 file using Legacy 8 and it converts it and makes a brand new database, does it move EVERYTHING to the new location(s)? Or are my pictures left at their old location? Personally, I've always created this folder structure to avoid the windows rules when it gets stored under My Documents. This allowed others to more easily get to the files if they logged into my computer under their name. windata ...legacy7 ...,,,PattonTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,TestTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,SampleTree etc. I'm using the ... and ,,, as a simple way to indicate a folder level. A more accurate way of showing it would be: C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Data C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Docs C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\pictures etc... Again - my concern - when I convert to Legacy version 8 - do the media files stay where they are and the version 8 pointers point to the old location? Or do the data AND THE MEDIA files all get moved to one of these 2 locations: C:\Documents and Settings\Bob\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data C:\Documents and Settings\Bob\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media (again, I'm talking by default. I'm assuming I can manually put them where ever I want if I want to mess with and override the program defaults.) If Legacy 8 moves the media files, what about any media files contained in the version 7 folders that is NOT referenced directly by legacy 7 - will they get moved? (Foolishly I have a folder under my pictures folder of my unshrunk pictures - and these files are NOT referenced anyplace within Legacy.) If the media files stay where they are (under my legacy7 folder), what's the easiest way of moving them and relinking them? (That is, can the program move them, or do I move them manually and then do a relink within the program?) Thanks, Bob On 12/16/2013 14:46, Michele/Support wrote: After I went from 7.5 to 8 all of my links were intact. I didn't have to relink anything. Michele Technical Support mich...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi, I have not yet upgraded to v8 and have just been lurking on the list, reading some threads on the upgrade... but am I reading this correctly? All my media will be unlinked during the upgrade process?? I mean, I see you say there are two new tools to help me relink my media, but surely I shouldn't have to DO anything... the upgrade process should give me a fully linked, fully functional set of data, right? Call me naive, but I can't imagine Millenia would be that sloppy. Thanks in advance for clearing up my misunderstanding, --Paula snip The pictures will also be there but just not linked properly in the converted file. Legacy 8 has two new tools to help you. The first one in the Media Relinker. This may take a while but it will help you relink all your media. The second one is the Gather My Media tool. This can help you gather all your media into one folder if it is scattered all over the place OR can gather just the odd file that you forgot to put into your media folder or a sub-folder of that media folder. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical
Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. You can use these folders for your own data or put your own data wherever you like. If you know you have good backups of your Legacy 7 data and you are happy with where the Legacy 7 data is, you can convert the files where they are. You can't go back from Legacy 8 so without a good backup, you can't still use Legacy 7 for that report you must have today but find there is a bug in Legacy 8. I wouldn't convert files where they are but I'm a belt and braces person when it comes to important data. Most likely wherever the converted file is you'll find your media is still all linked. If you want your data somewhere other than where your Legacy 7 data is or the new default location THEN you need to open Legacy 8 with the Sample file and change the Default Location for data in the options - customise 6.1 BEFORE asking to open your own file(s). Legacy 8 will offer to copy it to the Default Data Location - whatever is listed in 6.1 and convert it there. Note that all the Options - Customise settings now have a number. Some people find that some or all of the media is not still linked. This is because over the years the exact way the link has been saved has changed and if you've never shifted the media, Legacy has been very accommodating. The programmers realised that by being so accommodating, they were sometimes linking to a different photo of the same name so have made changes to ensure this doesn't happen. If some or all of your media isn't linked after the conversion, using the Media Relinker Tool is the easiest way to go. Those reading this who have been using the old Legacy defaults of C:\Legacy\Data ad C:\Legacy\Pictures etc would be wise to let Legacy 8 help you move to the new defaults with the conversion open to copy the file to the new default and then convert - and the Gather my Media Tool to copy your media if you're not confident with using Windows/File Explorer to move files around. Does that clarify at all? Cathy At 05:16 AM 17/12/2013, you wrote: I too have been curious about this. The folder structure of Legacy 7 and earlier was different from what I've seen/heard for Legacy 8. For Legacy 7 and earlier I believe the default was: Data ...docs ...pictures ...sounds ...videos (Or was Data folder, by default, at the same level as the others . . . I forget) But with Legacy 8 it appears it is: main folder ...data ...media Do pictures, sounds, videos, and docs all default to this one media folder now? (assuming one starts from scratch and accepts the defaults.) I do not see a way to individually specify these individual media locations under Legacy 8 - all I see is ONE setting at 6.2. Do they get stored in sub-folders under media, such as: ...media/pictures ...media/docs ...media/video ...media/sounds What about when I open my Legacy 7 file using Legacy 8 and it converts it and makes a brand new database, does it move EVERYTHING to the new location(s)? Or are my pictures left at their old location? Personally, I've always created this folder structure to avoid the windows rules when it gets stored under My Documents. This allowed others to more easily get to the files if they logged into my computer under their name. windata ...legacy7 ...,,,PattonTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,TestTree ...,,,...Data ...,,,...Docs ...,,,...pictures ...,,,...Sounds ...,,,...video ...,,,SampleTree etc. I'm using the ... and ,,, as a simple way to indicate a folder level. A more accurate way of showing it would be: C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Data C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Docs C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\pictures etc... Again - my concern - when I convert to Legacy version 8 - do the media files stay where they are and the version 8 pointers point to the old location? Or do the data AND THE MEDIA files all get moved to one of these 2 locations: C:\Documents and Settings\Bob\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data C:\Documents and Settings\Bob\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media (again, I'm talking by default. I'm assuming I can manually put them where ever I want if I want to mess with and override the program defaults.) If Legacy 8 moves the media files, what about any media files contained in the version 7 folders that is NOT referenced directly by legacy 7 - will they get moved? (Foolishly I have a folder under my pictures folder of my unshrunk
Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
Hi Cathy Pinner, I beg to differ - I do not have a folder called Legacy Family Tree in My Documents - in fact I don't have a folder anywhere on my computer called that. I wonder why! At 03:59 PM 17/12/2013, you wrote: Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. Cathy Susan Perrett Melbourne, Australia English webpage: http://www.st.net.au/~susanp/index.html American webpage: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~susanp Research: ALSTON-Suffolk/Bedford/America,post 1850, --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
On 12/12/2013 08:55, Lyn wrote: I have just bought the Legacy 8 update and thought I did the right thing with bringing my family file over but now I find I haven't bought over all the names and pictures from my legacy 7 programme. I desperately need help to correct this error, hopefully this is able to be rectified. First of all you need to tell us exactly what you did so we can see what you might have done wrong. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8
Hi Lyn, All the names will be there if you opened the right family file. Perhaps you opened an old copy? If you installed to the new defaults and chose the option to have Legacy 8 copy your file to the new default location in My Documents and convert it there - which was the recommended option, then your Legacy 7 file is still there and you can try again. Can you still open Legacy 7 and open your family file? That's comforting when making a big change from one version of a program to a new one. It also assures you that you can definitely start again. The pictures will also be there but just not linked properly in the converted file. Legacy 8 has two new tools to help you. The first one in the Media Relinker. This may take a while but it will help you relink all your media. The second one is the Gather My Media tool. This can help you gather all your media into one folder if it is scattered all over the place OR can gather just the odd file that you forgot to put into your media folder or a sub-folder of that media folder. Get back to us if that's not enough help and we'll try again. Cathy At 04:55 PM 12/12/2013, you wrote: G'day All I am not very good at explaining myself so please have patience with me :-) I have just bought the Legacy 8 update and thought I did the right thing with bringing my family file over but now I find I haven't bought over all the names and pictures from my legacy 7 programme. I desperately need help to correct this error, hopefully this is able to be rectified. cheers Lyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
