Re: Barline at beginning of lines of music.
Am 16.07.2014 11:15, schrieb Richard Shann:
On Wed, 2014-07-16 at 08:38 +0200, Marc Hohl wrote:
Am 15.07.2014 16:14, schrieb Richard Shann:
Well, I'm not sure I follow the distinction between defined bar-types
and not, this code
\version 2.18.0
\defineBarLine : #'(: : :)
\defineBarLine | #'(: : :)
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff = RH
\new Voice {
c'' c'' c'' c'' c'' c'' }
\new Staff = LH
\new Voice {
c'' c'' c'' c'' c'' c'' }
}
gives no warning but prints the double dots above instead of below the
top staff.
But perhaps that is a separate bug.
IIRC, it is not possible to use the repeat colons as span bars, they are
placed above the first system and not repeated even if you use more than
two staves (and therefore more than one instance of a span bar).
well, we are back to the question of what should the docs say, IIRC
here refers to ...?
'IIRC' refers to me having rewritten the bar line interface with *a lot
of* code and good ideas from Thomas Morley, but barely having touched
the code base since then. I'm not fully into the details yet and it's
sometimes hard to remember what we have done two years ago ;-)
Do you have a real-world example where this would be of some use?
Not at all - the bug would just be that there is no warning, and strange
output (I take it there is no real-world use for the repeat dots
hovering in the air above the top staff?).
I think so.
Marc
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Re: How to avoid key change with \transpose ?
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Re: LilyPond meeting 2014?
Hi all, I'd also like to join the party, but I am quite busy in the next time. I would like to join in for a session via skype or google-hang-out or similar - I could talk about and discuss the edition-engraver. Online-participation might be an option for users outside europe? Cheers, Jan-Peter On 12.07.2014 21:50, Janek Warchoł wrote: Hi all, 2014-07-12 20:53 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: I could offer one week earlier (full date range Aug 21st to Aug 26th), but that would still be mostly incompatible with Urs. Earlier than that collides with my own and Conny's plannings. One week later (Sep 4th to Sep 9th) may also an option, but it can affect outdoor weather. I think it's time to get the numbers organized. Please mark when you're available in this poll: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/privacy/lilypond-meeting-2014/ cheers, Janek ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-de...@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
[openlilylib] generated docs, HTML/CSS help desired
Hi, to give you quick access and a first impression on what I've done on the openlilylib documentation you can have a look at http://openlilylib.org/demo-oll/git-commands.html There are three pages so far, and the snippets aren't properly updated yet, but one can already see how nice this will be. The generated pages aren't as beautiful as they should be, and I would be very happy if someone could chime in with me and help me with it. First thing would be to create a _proper_ CSS for it and possibly make suggestions regarding the generated HTML structure. Any other support for this project would be appreciated too, no matter how. Please contact me on- or off-list. Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [openlilylib] generated docs, HTML/CSS help desired
Hi Urs, this looks very nice indeed! I am working my blog-posts and will likely not be able to provide much help on this (right now) - the scheme-part of snippet reorganization is also waiting ... But I will see, what I can do. Just one thought, jQuery(-ui/-mobile) might be a good tool to make use of tabs, lists and such. And the generated html-structure is almost prepared for that. Best, Jan-Peter Am 17.07.2014 11:05, schrieb Urs Liska: Hi, to give you quick access and a first impression on what I've done on the openlilylib documentation you can have a look at http://openlilylib.org/demo-oll/git-commands.html There are three pages so far, and the snippets aren't properly updated yet, but one can already see how nice this will be. The generated pages aren't as beautiful as they should be, and I would be very happy if someone could chime in with me and help me with it. First thing would be to create a _proper_ CSS for it and possibly make suggestions regarding the generated HTML structure. Any other support for this project would be appreciated too, no matter how. Please contact me on- or off-list. Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [openlilylib] generated docs, HTML/CSS help desired
Am 17.07.2014 11:05, schrieb Urs Liska: Hi, to give you quick access and a first impression on what I've done on the openlilylib documentation you can have a look at http://openlilylib.org/demo-oll/git-commands.html Updated, now with syntax highlighting! :-) Thank you, Wilbert, for making python-ly available to us that way. ### For lilypond-devel: We had talked about this option for the LilyPond manuals. Having had my first experience I think we should give that another thought. Have a look at the commit https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/commit/568c3ef1c70dfa5619ae3a5c20ff78e1cc5a6eb2 to see how much code was necessary to achieve that. I don't know the documentation build process, so I don't know where one could put that step in. What's necessary is to run python code to convert simple pre/pre content to styled HTML (as in the referenced commit). Additionally it's necessary to have Frescobaldi's python-ly installed on the machine, so that would be an additional (weak) requirement for the build system's configuration. (A developer would _not_ be forced to install it, but without he would simply get plaintext output). And it's necessary to add a CSS file to the distribution. Best Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Updating a score from version 1.4
This issue comes up from time to time for me, and I hope someone can help. Occasionally I need to make minor revisions to a score that was engraved with LilyPond version 1.4.12. That version was long before I started trying to use the program, so I don't have that version. Anyway, every time I try to revise the source so that it will compile in v. 2.16 or 2.18, I screw up something and it makes a mess and pretty soon I'm frustrated and move on to something more productive. So my question is: Is there any way I can get any of the very early versions so that I can make a couple of minor tweaks and compile these scores? Or is there some other solution that doesn't involve recodiing everything? Thanks in advance for any advice. Larry Kent Tampa, FL ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
Greetings Larry, Are you familiar with the convert-ly command? From the terminal, you should be able to type convert-ly -e FILENAME, substituting the last portion with the name of your file. Then your code should be updated to the version which you are currently using. I hope this helps. Hwaen Ch'uqi On 7/17/14, Larry Kent kentla...@gmail.com wrote: This issue comes up from time to time for me, and I hope someone can help. Occasionally I need to make minor revisions to a score that was engraved with LilyPond version 1.4.12. That version was long before I started trying to use the program, so I don't have that version. Anyway, every time I try to revise the source so that it will compile in v. 2.16 or 2.18, I screw up something and it makes a mess and pretty soon I'm frustrated and move on to something more productive. So my question is: Is there any way I can get any of the very early versions so that I can make a couple of minor tweaks and compile these scores? Or is there some other solution that doesn't involve recodiing everything? Thanks in advance for any advice. Larry Kent Tampa, FL ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
On 17/07/14 16:46, Larry Kent wrote: This issue comes up from time to time for me, and I hope someone can help. Occasionally I need to make minor revisions to a score that was engraved with LilyPond version 1.4.12. That version was long before I started trying to use the program, so I don't have that version. Anyway, every time I try to revise the source so that it will compile in v. 2.16 or 2.18, I screw up something and it makes a mess and pretty soon I'm frustrated and move on to something more productive. So my question is: Is there any way I can get any of the very early versions so that I can make a couple of minor tweaks and compile these scores? Or is there some other solution that doesn't involve recodiing everything? Thanks in advance for any advice. Larry Kent Tampa, FL http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/usage/updating-files-with-convert_002dly I hope this helps. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
Larry Kent kentla...@gmail.com writes: This issue comes up from time to time for me, and I hope someone can help. Occasionally I need to make minor revisions to a score that was engraved with LilyPond version 1.4.12. That version was long before I started trying to use the program, so I don't have that version. Downloads on the website start with URL:http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh for Linux. No idea whether the runtime will work fine on current systems. Anyway, every time I try to revise the source so that it will compile in v. 2.16 or 2.18, I screw up something and it makes a mess and pretty soon I'm frustrated and move on to something more productive. You know about convert-ly for converting to newer versions? 1.4 is probably too old to be reliably converted, but with some luck at least some of the conversion work will be done for you. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
Thanks, James, David, and Hwaen. Convert-ly doesn't handle version 1.4 very well, not surprising. The current project I'm working on is a very short piece, so I may just start over with this one. Long-term, however, it would be nice to find somewhere that a user can grab an old version, install it in a separate folder and work on an old edition. Thanks again. Larry On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 12:42 PM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: On 17/07/14 16:46, Larry Kent wrote: This issue comes up from time to time for me, and I hope someone can help. Occasionally I need to make minor revisions to a score that was engraved with LilyPond version 1.4.12. That version was long before I started trying to use the program, so I don't have that version. Anyway, every time I try to revise the source so that it will compile in v. 2.16 or 2.18, I screw up something and it makes a mess and pretty soon I'm frustrated and move on to something more productive. So my question is: Is there any way I can get any of the very early versions so that I can make a couple of minor tweaks and compile these scores? Or is there some other solution that doesn't involve recodiing everything? Thanks in advance for any advice. Larry Kent Tampa, FL http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/usage/updating- files-with-convert_002dly I hope this helps. James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
referencing and merging on the fly created staffs
Hi,
in the following example, an extra staff is created on the fly at two
non-adjacent times. Unfortunately the extra staffs are at different
vertical positions as they are considered different by lilypond. Is it
possible to reference the first extra staff by the second? I'm aware
that I could use stopStaff and startStaff but unfortunately the parts
are defined in different files and it would make the handling very
awkward.
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Orm
\version 2.19.5
music={\relative c' {c4 d e f }}
\score {
\new Staff = violineeins
{
\music \\
\new Staff=newstaff \with { alignBelowContext = violineeins }
{ \music }
R1 R1
\music \\
\new Staff=newstaff \with { alignBelowContext = violineeins }
{ \music }
}
\layout {}
%\midi {}
}
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Re: Repeat volta not at beginning of piece doesn't get initial repeat bar line
I am deeply grateful for sorting out these problems associated with the
bagpipe tune format and in particular those associated with repeats. I have
another irritating glitch in the same grain. A measure can have two
alternative structures depending on whether it is played the first or second
time. This is illustrated in the following snippet. My approach to this
works, however, i get a warning: already have a volta spanner, ending that
one prematurely and the second spanner remains open to the right. Any
suggestions will be most welcome.
\version 2.18.0
music = \relative c''' {
\key c \major
\time 2/4
\bar .|:
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'(start-repeat)
\partial 8 g8
a16. [g32 a16. f32] e8 [c32 a16.]
a8 a'16. [e32 f16. e32] c32 a16.
a'16. [g32 a16. e32] c32 [e16. a,16. e'32]
c8 b b[ g']
\break
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 5 8)
a16. g32 a16. f32 e8
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta 1.)) c32 [ a16.]
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta 2.)) c32 [e16.]
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
\set Score.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/8)
a,8 a'16. e32 f16. e32 c32 a16.
b16.[ c32 d16. e32] f32 [ a16. e16. b32]
c8 [a] a
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'(end-repeat)
\break
} % end relative
\score {
\new Staff \music
}
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Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
On 14-07-17 10:52 AM, Larry Kent wrote: Thanks, James, David, and Hwaen. Convert-ly doesn't handle version 1.4 very well, not surprising. The current project I'm working on is a very short piece, so I may just start over with this one. Long-term, however, it would be nice to find somewhere that a user can grab an old version, install it in a separate folder and work on an old edition. Would it work if you were to install an intermediate version of LilyPond, perhaps 2.8.0 and use the convert-ly from that version to get you part way, then run convert-ly from your current version to finish the job? This is untested, but may be a more general solution than simply recoding from scratch. In principle, it's nearly always worth the effort to bring an old score up to current levels when you are revising it, although as you imply, it may not be useful for a minor revision or two. Cheers, Colin -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Refrain and Verse SATB - Bug?
Hi Chris,
its actually not a bug. You create new Lyrics contexts in the middle of
the piece. They are place below all other contexts, if you don't set the
alignment:
-
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Soprano
} \new Voice = soprano {
\SopranoNotes
}
% give the first verse-context an id
\new Lyrics = Soprano \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-affinity = #CENTER
}
\lyricsto soprano {
\Refrain
\VerseOne
\new Lyrics \with {
% align the new lyrics below the first verse
alignBelowContext = Soprano
} {
\set associatedVoice = soprano
\VerseTwo
}
}
-
HTH
Jan-Peter
Am 17.07.14 21:13, schrieb Chris Trahan:
I submitted a bug report on this issue but the person replying stated
that it's not a bug but it's working as designed. I don't see how.
Maybe someone would enlighten me.
I've attached my code and a screen shot of the results.
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Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
Thanks for the suggestion. I can't find version 2.8 to download either, but that's quite a ways from 1.4, so I'm not sure if it would work. I think I'll let this thread hang out there for another day or so, and then start from scratch. Thanks again! Best, LK On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Colin Campbell c...@shaw.ca wrote: On 14-07-17 10:52 AM, Larry Kent wrote: Thanks, James, David, and Hwaen. Convert-ly doesn't handle version 1.4 very well, not surprising. The current project I'm working on is a very short piece, so I may just start over with this one. Long-term, however, it would be nice to find somewhere that a user can grab an old version, install it in a separate folder and work on an old edition. Would it work if you were to install an intermediate version of LilyPond, perhaps 2.8.0 and use the convert-ly from that version to get you part way, then run convert-ly from your current version to finish the job? This is untested, but may be a more general solution than simply recoding from scratch. In principle, it's nearly always worth the effort to bring an old score up to current levels when you are revising it, although as you imply, it may not be useful for a minor revision or two. Cheers, Colin -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Refrain and Verse SATB - Bug?
Chris Trahan trahan.ch...@gmail.com writes:
I submitted a bug report on this issue but the person replying stated that
it's not a bug but it's working as designed. I don't see how. Maybe someone
would enlighten me.
I've attached my code and a screen shot of the results.
This is the technique that I'm using, which I found online. I'm yusing
LilyPond 2.18.2.1 on a Windows 7 Pro machine.
~
Refrain = \lyricmode {Not re -- peat -- ed.}
VerseOne = \lyricmode { The first time words. }
VerseTwo = \lyricmode {Sec -- ond time words.}
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice = melody {
\relative c'' {
a4 a a a
\repeat volta 2 { b4 b b b }
}
}
}
\new Lyrics \lyricsto melody {
\Refrain
\set stanza = #1.
\VerseOne
\new Lyrics {
\set associatedVoice = melody
\set stanza = #2.
\VerseTwo
}
}
}
It is not clear to me what you mean with technique that I am using
when you are appending something quite different. For example, you
fiddle with staff-affinity without that being overly consistent. I try
centering the lyrics between soprano and alto, but for bass there is
nothing to center.
It also might be worth considering using different contexts for refrain
and both stanzas in order to get a visual like
1. first stanza
this is the refrain
2. second stanza
instead of
this is the refrain 1. first stanza
2. second stanza
At any rate, new contexts are usually aligned below all existing
contexts. Without trying to do anything about second stanza alignment,
I get
\language english
\version 2.18.2
\paper {
top-margin = 1\in
system-system-spacing.minimum-distance = #17
}
\header {
title = Le voici l‘Agneau si doux
composer = Maurice Kaltnecker
tagline = % No LilyPond tagline
}
global = {
\key g \major
\numericTimeSignature
\time 6/8
}
SopranoNotes = \relative c'' {
\global
\repeat volta 2 {
d4 e8 d4 b8 g4 b8 d4 r8 c4 a8 fs4 e'8 d4. b4 r8 d4 e8 d4 b8 \break
g4 b8 d4 r8 c4 a8 fs4 a8 g4.~ g4^Fine r8 \bar || a4 d8 d4 c8b4. g4 r8 \break
a4 gs8 a4 b8 a4.~ a4 r8 a4 a8 d4 c8 b4. g4 r8 a4 gs8 a4 b8 a4.( d)
}
}
AltoNotes = \relative c'' {
\global
\repeat volta 2 {
b4 c8 b4 g8 d4 fs8 b4 r8 a4 fs8 a4 c8 b4. g4 r8 b4 c8 b4 g8 \break
d4 g8 b4 r8 a4 fs8 d4 fs8 g4.~ g4 r8 \bar || fs4 fs8 a4 a8 g4. d4 r8 \break
fs4 f8fs4 g8 fs4.~ fs4 r8 fs4 fs8 a4 a8 g4. d4 r8 fs4 f8fs4 g8 fs4.( c')
}
}
TenorNotes = \relative c' {
\global
\repeat volta 2 {
g4 g8 g4 d8 a'4 d8 g,4 r8 fs4 d8 a'4 fs8 g4. d4 r8 g4 g8 g4 d8 \break
b'4 d8 g,4 r8 fs4 d8 a'4 d,8 g4.~ g4 r8 \bar || d'4 d8 d4 d8 d4. b4 r8 \break
d4 d8 d4 d8 d4.~ d4 r8 d4 d8 c4 d8 d4. b4 r8 d4 d8 d4 d8 d4.( a)
}
}
BassNotes = \relative c {
\global
\repeat volta 2 {
g4 b8 g4 d'8 g,4 g8 g4 r8 d'4 d8 a4 d8 g4. g,4 r8 g4 b8 g4 d'8 \break
g,4 g8 g4 r8 d'4 d8 c4 d8 g,4.~ g4 r8 \bar || d'4 a'8 d,4 a'8 a4. a4 r8 \break
d,4 d8 a4 g8 d'4.( a4) r8 d4 a'8 d,4 a'8 g4. g4 r8 d4 d8 a4 g8 d'4.~ d
}
}
Refrain = \lyricmode {
Le voi -- ci, l'Ag -- neau si doux.
Le vrai pain des an -- ges.
Il des -- cend du ciel pour nous.
A -- do -- rons -- le tous. __
}
VerseOne = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = # 1.
C'est un ten -- dre Pè -- re
C'est le Bon Pas -- teur __
En lui seul j'es -- pè -- re
C'est mon bien -- fai -- teur. __
}
VerseTwo = \lyricmode {
\set stanza = # 2.
Par toi saint Mys -- tè -- re
Ob -- jet de ma foi __
Je crois, je ré -- vè -- re
Mon Maître et mon Roi. __
}
\score {
\new ChoirStaff
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Soprano
} \new Voice = soprano {
\SopranoNotes
}
\new Lyrics = sopranolyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-affinity = #CENTER
}
\lyricsto soprano {
\Refrain
\VerseOne
\new Lyrics \with {
\override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-affinity = #CENTER
alignBelowContext = sopranolyrics
}
{
\set associatedVoice = soprano
\VerseTwo
}
}
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Alto
} \new Voice = alto {
\AltoNotes
}
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Tenor
}
{
\clef bass
\new Voice = tenor
\TenorNotes
}
\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = Bass
}
{
\clef bass
\new Voice = bass
\BassNotes
}
\new Lyrics = basslyrics
\lyricsto bass {
\Refrain
\VerseOne
\new Lyrics \with {
associatedVoice = bass
alignBelowContext = basslyrics
} \VerseTwo
}
}
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Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
Larry Kent kentla...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for the suggestion. I can't find version 2.8 to download either, but that's quite a ways from 1.4, so I'm not sure if it would work. Look, I gave you a full download link to 1.4.15, so what do you mean with you can't find version 2.8 to download either? Can you please at least mention what problem you have using the link? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Adding right side to volta bracket spanner
Hi,
I’ve been transcribing a modern partiture in Lilypond. I’ve come quite far but
some details are missing. For one thing in particular I have not been able to
find a solution. The composer used volta bracket spanners to indicate that a
group of notes should be played the second time only. To have an accurate
transcription I would like to show the right vertical line of the volta
bracket spanner. How can I trigger that line to be drawn?
\version 2.18.2
voltaText = \markup { \text {2x only} }
Alower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\set Staff.keySignature = #`(((-2 . 6) . , FLAT))
\override Staff.TimeSignature #`transparent = ##t
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/4)
\cadenzaOn
r8.
\override Score.VoltaBracketSpanner.no-alignment = ##f
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list(list 'volta voltaText) 'start-repeat)
r16 bes'8[ e,16] g,4
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) end-repeat)
% Should the vertical line be triggered here? How?
r8. r16 bes'8[\( e,16]( e[) g,8\) bes'16\( f8]( f16[) e g,8]\) r16
\bar :|.
\cadenzaOff
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
\remove Bar_number_engraver
\remove Volta_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
}
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
\consists Volta_engraver
}
{
\Alower
}
}
Best regards,
Guido
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Re: Refrain and Verse SATB - Bug?
2014-07-17 21:13 GMT+02:00 Chris Trahan trahan.ch...@gmail.com: I submitted a bug report on this issue No, you opened a tracker issue. but the person replying stated that it's not a bug but it's working as designed. Was me, and setting status of the tracker item to 'invalid' I don't see how. One could discuss, if another method would be better. If the discussion results to yes, an enhancement request, sent to the buglist, would be appropiate. Don't open a tracker issue yourself, it's our bugsquads duty. Maybe someone would enlighten me. Now you're on the correct list, you've got the correct answer in 18 min. ;) I've attached my code and a screen shot of the results. This is the technique that I'm using, which I found online. Where? I'm yusing LilyPond 2.18.2.1 on a Windows 7 Pro machine. Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
David, You sent me this link: URL:http://download.lin http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh uxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh The problem I have using the link is that my computer doesn't know what to do with thatno application on my computers (Windows 8.1) to handle files with that extension. LK On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:49 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Larry Kent kentla...@gmail.com writes: Thanks for the suggestion. I can't find version 2.8 to download either, but that's quite a ways from 1.4, so I'm not sure if it would work. Look, I gave you a full download link to 1.4.15, so what do you mean with you can't find version 2.8 to download either? Can you please at least mention what problem you have using the link? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
On 17.07.2014 21:56, Larry Kent wrote: David, You sent me this link: URL:http://download.lin http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh uxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh The problem I have using the link is that my computer doesn't know what to do with thatno application on my computers (Windows 8.1) to handle files with that extension. That is because it’s a shell script for Linux (as the name suggests). If I remember correctly, there was no 1.4 for Windows. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
Larry Kent kentla...@gmail.com writes: David, You sent me this link: URL:http://download.lin http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh uxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh The problem I have using the link is that my computer doesn't know what to do with thatno application on my computers (Windows 8.1) to handle files with that extension. You did not previously mention your operating system. Most definitely LilyPond 1.4 did not run under Windows 8.1. I actually doubt that it was easy to get to compile/run under _any_ version of Windows. The earliest version on the download site for Windows is 2.6.0. However, I expect the hassle to get this to run nicely under Windows likely worse than the headache convert-ly will provide for converting from 2.6.0 to current versions. If you want to give the Linux binary a try, there is a Linux VM running under Windows for/with LilyPond somewhere on the website. It might possibly work wit the ancient installer. But you'll probably have less of a hassle and more of an improvement by converting the source code. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
On 14-07-17 02:00 PM, Malte Meyn wrote: On 17.07.2014 21:56, Larry Kent wrote: David, You sent me this link: URL:http://download.lin http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh uxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/linux-x86/lilypond-ancient-1.4.15-1.linux-x86.sh The problem I have using the link is that my computer doesn't know what to do with thatno application on my computers (Windows 8.1) to handle files with that extension. That is because it’s a shell script for Linux (as the name suggests). If I remember correctly, there was no 1.4 for Windows. ___ This link: http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/ looks as though it will take you to 2.6.0 and later builds, reachable by following the Old Downloads link from the lilypond.org website. Good luck with it, Larry, and let us know how it works! Cheers, Colin -- I've learned that you shouldn't go through life with a catcher's mitt on both hands. You need to be able to throw something back. -Maya Angelou, poet (1928- ) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
I'm thinking this implies that convert-ly is best used incrementally by LP version, with no intermediate upgrading omitted. So, with original code at Ver 'A' and my destination Ver 'E', then for best results I'd install Versions B, C, D and run all four convert-ly's (A-B; B-C; C-D; D-E)? Is this right -- that convert-ly is meant to be applied cumulatively? Regards, Pete Colin Campbell wrote: On 14-07-17 10:52 AM, Larry Kent wrote: Thanks, James, David, and Hwaen. Convert-ly doesn't handle version 1.4 very well, not surprising. The current project I'm working on is a very short piece, so I may just start over with this one. Long-term, however, it would be nice to find somewhere that a user can grab an old version, install it in a separate folder and work on an old edition. Would it work if you were to install an intermediate version of LilyPond, perhaps 2.8.0 and use the convert-ly from that version to get you part way, then run convert-ly from your current version to finish the job? This is untested, but may be a more general solution than simply recoding from scratch. In principle, it's nearly always worth the effort to bring an old score up to current levels when you are revising it, although as you imply, it may not be useful for a minor revision or two. Cheers, Colin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Adding right side to volta bracket spanner
2014-07-17 21:51 GMT+02:00 Guido gu...@spaanbroek.nl:
Hi,
I’ve been transcribing a modern partiture in Lilypond. I’ve come quite far
but some details are missing. For one thing in particular I have not been
able to find a solution. The composer used volta bracket spanners to indicate
that a group of notes should be played the second time only. To have an
accurate transcription I would like to show the right vertical line of the
volta bracket spanner. How can I trigger that line to be drawn?
\version 2.18.2
voltaText = \markup { \text {2x only} }
Alower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\set Staff.keySignature = #`(((-2 . 6) . , FLAT))
\override Staff.TimeSignature #`transparent = ##t
\set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/4)
\cadenzaOn
r8.
\override Score.VoltaBracketSpanner.no-alignment = ##f
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list(list 'volta voltaText)
'start-repeat)
r16 bes'8[ e,16] g,4
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) end-repeat)
% Should the vertical line be triggered here? How?
r8. r16 bes'8[\( e,16]( e[) g,8\) bes'16\( f8]( f16[) e g,8]\) r16
\bar :|.
\cadenzaOff
}
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Timing_translator
\remove Default_bar_line_engraver
\remove Bar_number_engraver
\remove Volta_engraver
}
\context {
\Staff
\consists Timing_translator
\consists Default_bar_line_engraver
}
}
\score {
\new Staff \with {
\consists Volta_engraver
}
{
\Alower
}
}
Best regards,
Guido
Hi,
the so called 'volta-hook' is allowed only for certain types of BarLines.
You can watch them by compiling the following code in a .ly file:
#(use-modules (ice-9 pretty-print))
#(pretty-print (@@ (lily) volta-bracket-allow-volta-hook-list))
You can use one of them and make the stencil invisible. Would result to:
voltaText = \markup { \text { 2x only } }
\relative c {
\clef bass
\cadenzaOn
r8
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list(list 'volta voltaText))
r16 bes'8[ e,16] g,4
\once \override Staff.BarLine.stencil = #point-stencil
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) end-repeat)
r8.
\cadenzaOff
}
Or you can append to the 'volta-bracket-allow-volta-hook-list':
#(allow-volta-hook )
voltaText = \markup { \text { 2x only } }
\relative c {
\clef bass
\cadenzaOn
r8
\set Score.repeatCommands = #(list(list 'volta voltaText))
r16 bes'8[ e,16] g,4
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) end-repeat)
\bar
r8.
\cadenzaOff
}
Using this method will result to _every_ volta-hook is allowed at this
bar-line in the whole file.
Though,
'allow-volta-hook' isn't mentioned in the docs, afaik.
Additionally, I think one should make it a context-property, with the
possibility to set _and_ unset or to use \once.
I'll file a bugreport for a documentation and enhancement, if I don't forget.
Cheers,
Harm
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Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu writes: I'm thinking this implies that convert-ly is best used incrementally by LP version, with no intermediate upgrading omitted. So, with original code at Ver 'A' and my destination Ver 'E', then for best results I'd install Versions B, C, D and run all four convert-ly's (A-B; B-C; C-D; D-E)? Is this right -- that convert-ly is meant to be applied cumulatively? No. convert-ly is an application that has rules for each conversion, and while newer versions tend to add just rules at the end, there have been several instances where old rules have been corrected. So you never have anything to gain from running older versions of convert-ly. However, if you have some older version of LilyPond around, it may make the conversion easier by using a current convert-ly but telling it to stop at your older version of LilyPond. Then you fix stuff manually until everything works again (the old rules are really spotty, and there were some rather drastic syntax changes in those times), and then continue converting to the current version. In case the old rules messed stuff up, cleaning up before applying the next batch of conversions might conceivably result in less work and/or fewer followup errors, or at least better manageable work. So there may be some point in not converting all-in-one-go. But even if you stop in the middle, there is no point in doing it with any but the newest convert-ly. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
2014-07-17 22:48 GMT+02:00 PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu: I'm thinking this implies that convert-ly is best used incrementally by LP version, with no intermediate upgrading omitted. So, with original code at Ver 'A' and my destination Ver 'E', then for best results I'd install Versions B, C, D and run all four convert-ly's (A-B; B-C; C-D; D-E)? Is this right -- that convert-ly is meant to be applied cumulatively? Regards, Pete convert-ly contains converting-rules from _all_ versions. Therefore I'd use the _newest_ convert-ly to update an old file. Nevertheless, there are quite often issues like: not smart enough to ... But there's the option to convert to a certain lily-version: convert-ly --to=2.14.1 myfile.ly see: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage-big-page#command-line-options-for-convert_002dly Maybe I'd convert carefully from one version to the next and fix all occuring problems manually. Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Articles on church music on Github in LilyPond format
This is fascinating. I am really unfamiliar with GitHub beyond having downloaded the software, but this should give me more incentive to explore it. It's a neat perk of Lilypond and Gregorio that they are just text files. Never thought of that. Best, Conor Cook Music Director LaSalle Catholic Parishes LaSalle, IL 61301 On Jul 16, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Paul Morris p...@paulwmorris.com wrote: I came across a couple of articles on church music on Github in LilyPond format. (Organ accompaniments for Gregorian Chant, a LilyPond transcription of the Nova Organi Harmonia.) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2014/07/fork-chant-github-goes-gregorian-open-source-notation/ http://www.wired.com/2013/05/gregorian_github/ Does this qualifies for a ponding? In any case I thought it might be of interest. Too bad the Wired article doesn't mention that it's LilyPond file format... -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Articles-on-church-music-on-Github-in-LilyPond-format-tp164530.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
I have used Lilypond on windows. The trick is to run in within a Unix shell, like https://www.cygwin.com/ If I am not mistaken, there is a lilypond package within the cygwin distribution you can choose when installing. I have no experience with running convert-ly, or in particular these ancient scripts. But you certainly can execute .sh files on the cygwin command line in windows. David Elaine Alt 415 . 341 .4954 *Confusion is highly underrated* ela...@flaminghakama.com self-immolation.info skype: flaming_hakama Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
David Harm, Thank you! I let my unresolved fuzziness on this issue (and a memory of messy cumulative system upgrades) keep me from attempting a 'convert-ly' _EVER_. Now I stand -- well, sit -- corrected, and am ready to at least _try_. Pete David Kastrup wrote: PMApeterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu writes: I'm thinking this implies that convert-ly is best used incrementally by LP version, with no intermediate upgrading omitted. So, with original code at Ver 'A' and my destination Ver 'E', then for best results I'd install Versions B, C, D and run all four convert-ly's (A-B; B-C; C-D; D-E)? Is this right -- that convert-ly is meant to be applied cumulatively? No. convert-ly is an application that has rules for each conversion, and while newer versions tend to add just rules at the end, there have been several instances where old rules have been corrected. So you never have anything to gain from running older versions of convert-ly. However, if you have some older version of LilyPond around, it may make the conversion easier by using a current convert-ly but telling it to stop at your older version of LilyPond. Then you fix stuff manually until everything works again (the old rules are really spotty, and there were some rather drastic syntax changes in those times), and then continue converting to the current version. In case the old rules messed stuff up, cleaning up before applying the next batch of conversions might conceivably result in less work and/or fewer followup errors, or at least better manageable work. So there may be some point in not converting all-in-one-go. But even if you stop in the middle, there is no point in doing it with any but the newest convert-ly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Updating a score from version 1.4
Flaming Hakama by Elaine ela...@flaminghakama.com writes: I have used Lilypond on windows. The trick is to run in within a Unix shell, like https://www.cygwin.com/ If I am not mistaken, there is a lilypond package within the cygwin distribution you can choose when installing. I have no experience with running convert-ly, or in particular these ancient scripts. But you certainly can execute .sh files on the cygwin command line in windows. Well, but an installation script for GNU/Linux, while it may conceivably actually execute under Cygwin, will not install a version of LilyPond actually running under Windows. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
