Re: 8086/88 80286 ||| 80386 80486 Pentium ...
Hi, Just thought I'd add my 2-penneth worth to this (even if it is highly off topic) On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Shadow Daemon wrote: Actually, I recently installed RedHat 6.1 on a 486/8Mb. The trick was to do a NFS install, and forget about the installation program the moment the shell-prompt appeared on the second console. I had to custom-create the boot disk and root fs, but I've got Slackware 7.0 running on a 386 with 2mbs of ram. At least as far as slack is concerned, 1 meg is all that's needed to run, but 4 megs is required for the install process. I could be completely mistaken about that, however. I believe the lower limit is 2Mb, but I've put Slack on a fair few machines with very little ram - just make a custom kernel and use that as the boot disk, so it uses only as much as you need - nothing more. If you don't need it for the machine to boot/access HDD/talk to network - you don't need it :) Bye for now, Matt /\ | /\ /\ /_\ --- --- | | / \/ \ / \ | | | \/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Page: http://www.m-techdiagnostics.ltd.uk/matt/ http://www.lunarix.org/ -- A Founding Developer of the LunariX Linux Distribution -- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s: a--- C+++ UL P+ L E--- W++ N+ o K- w--- O- M- V- PS PE+ Y- PGP+ t 5+ X+ R tv+ b+ DI+ D++ G e h r++ y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
elkscmd snapshot 2000-03-02 available now
I have put together a release snapshot of elkscmd as it has been a while since I last released anything, and alot has gone in. This release may be a bit untidy as CVS is currently down which makes it harder to keep track of what is going on. The package is available from the following URLs. ftp://ftp.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pub/elks/elkscmd/elkscmd-2302.tar.gz ftp://linux.mit.edu/pub/ELKS/elkscmd/elkscmd-2302.tar.gz Here is a quick list of what is changed in this release:- Added support for building a tiny filesystem for use in the SIBO port. Added a README explaining what the packages contains. Applied contributed fix to ls. Added the early stages of a VGA library based on the driver code from microwindows. Added new shell utils mesg, tr, write and xargs. Added man pages for some of the system utils. Added templated for new .c files and man pages. Al
Does someone else work on ELKS and Minix at the same time?
I want to know about some ELKS and Minix possibilities on net. Does anybody knows something about ppp in Minix (especialy for 286), and some posibilites to do that on ELKS? I prefere ELKS, but Minix had network now!(but Minix is too insecure ( I want to compile ssh for Minix and that is priority, and 'joe' offcourse:) ) And one question more. How far is ELKS of network "hallo"!? Bye and thanks Elvir
Re: Is ELKS a good idea for teaching O.S.
On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Juanjo Marin wrote Iñaki, I am looking for a simple OS to use teaching (modifying the kernel) and despite simplicity is very important, I'd like to be possible to load pre-compiled programs and to have a file system in hard disk. I think that Minix may be a better option for teaching because there are books (well, 2 editions of one book) written for this purpose. The book is titled "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation". The author of the first Edition is A.S. Tanenbaum and the authors of the second one are A.S. Tanenbaum and A. S. Woodhull. The good point is that they have been translated into Spanish (I don't know if there is a Basque translation) The translation is called "Sistemas Operativos: Diseño e Implementación". Both editions are published by Prentice Hall. It's very likely that you can find copies of the 1st edition in the library of your CS faculty. The ISBN of the 2nd edition is 970-17-0165-8 Anyway, If you are very interested in ELKS, you can find some technical papers on the ELKS site. We (at least me!!!) would be very grateful if you wrote some essays that help people to learn how ELKS works. About Linux, there are some documents and books about the kernel. There is a translation of David Rusling's "The Linux Kernel" avalaible in any mirror of LuCAS (LinUx en CAStellano). And there is a translation of a French (or maybe English) book, called "Porgramación Linux 2.0", Editorial Gestión 2000, de Rémy Card, Eric Dumas and Franck Mével. Hope this help you, Greetings from Sevilla Juanjo I am a beginer with Minix and ELKS, but I prefered ELKS (not MINIX) first because Minixs' bad development. I actually mean that Minix's developers don't work so hard on Minix. At the first time, I asced Al about somethin, and I recived answers very fast, on Minix distribution I asked some questions so, and I don't get any answer, yet. That why I prefered ELKS. And Minix news group doesn't work on my news server:( At the mean time Minix is interesting too.. That is my prposition how to learn Unixs...
Re: Is ELKS a good idea for teaching O.S.
I am a beginer with Minix and ELKS, but I prefered ELKS (not MINIX) first because Minixs' bad development. I actually mean that Minix's developers don't work so hard on Minix. At the first time, I asced Al about somethin, and I recived answers very fast, on Minix distribution I asked some questions so, and I don't get any answer, yet. That why I prefered ELKS. And Minix news group doesn't work on my news server:( At the mean time Minix is interesting too.. That is my prposition how to learn Unixs... You're right, the development of ELKS is much more live than Minix (Minix is considered finished or nearly finished). On the other hand, we don't have a book that explains ELKS internals by now. The Minix book is interesting anyway (The Minix filesystem, the one used by ELKS, is explained on that book and it can be used to learn OS concepts from a UNIX point of view as well). Because Minix has a book and ELKS doesn't, I said that Minix _could_ be better for teaching (you and your students have a reference book), but I think that ELKS is perfect for learning by your own (if you enjoy learning by code). ELKS is like the GPLed cousin of Minix and the small brother (or sister ???) of Linux :-), and all they belong to the big Unix family. :-) best regards, Juanjo
