Re: Definitive tree

2000-06-19 Thread Alistair Riddoch

On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 12:02:41AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
  : I think I've figured how to
  : sort some of the stack handling stuff out and get some of our data space
  : back. 
  
  You're not thinking of backtracing stack addresses, are you?

The last release can be found here:

ftp://ftp.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pub/elks/elks-0.0.83/

and the source is now stored under CVS at sourceforge:

http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=3232

Let me know if you have a username on sourceforge, and I will add you to the
project.

 
 No. Something much simpler. The idea being to get into a state where there
 is nothing on the kernel stack needed when a task is not in RUN state.. ie
 replacing the wait queue/select stuff with a V7 like setup.

Is this in some way related to your idea of moving the structure required from
the kernel stack to the task structure?

 
 User space Im very tempted to rebuild the system with the stack at the base
 of the data segment, although that would prevent chmem working without
 relocation maps on load. It trades it for the ability to truely grow process
 space once you have swap
 

I was working along these lines when I got distracted by other things and
stopped working on Linux-8086. I had implemented reading in the larger
header version of the minix format executable, and using one of the
fields in the extended header as the size of the stack below the datasegment.
I think this code had been developed to point where it worked, but
building binaries that it would load required extra compiler flags, and
hacking the header with a binary editor.

Al



Re: Definitive tree

2000-06-19 Thread Alan Cox

 and the source is now stored under CVS at sourceforge:
 http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=3232

I'll grab the sourceforget copy and probably send you diffs. (I dont have
the local bandwidth to fight cvs)

 Is this in some way related to your idea of moving the structure required from
 the kernel stack to the task structure?

Yes

Alan




Re: Definitive tree

2000-06-19 Thread Alan Cox

 I've gotten pretty familiar with the linker, let me know if you
 need a hack.  Otherwise, my memory says that we've got enough
 info in the current header to put the stack below the data, providing
 the linker will change the beginning data offset to the max stack size.

We can already build binaries for this format. What we cant do is build ones
you can chmem.

I now have an ELKS that is a bit cleaner (not a lot), has my new wait queue
code working and I've written but not tested the back end for the swapper. It
needs someone strategy code and syscalls.  Right now only the bios driver
will get swapping right since I had to add req-rq_seg so I can swap stuff
without going via buffer cache - also means I guess we can write directly
from the L2 buffer cache.

Alan




Re: Definitive tree

2000-06-18 Thread Alan Cox

 : I think I've figured how to
 : sort some of the stack handling stuff out and get some of our data space
 : back. 
 
 You're not thinking of backtracing stack addresses, are you?

No. Something much simpler. The idea being to get into a state where there
is nothing on the kernel stack needed when a task is not in RUN state.. ie
replacing the wait queue/select stuff with a V7 like setup.

User space Im very tempted to rebuild the system with the stack at the base
of the data segment, although that would prevent chmem working without
relocation maps on load. It trades it for the ability to truely grow process
space once you have swap

Alan