Re: the SGI Linux day

2000-05-21 Thread Marc A. Volovic

Ira Abramov wrote:

 On Thu, 18 May 2000, Moshe Zadka wrote:

  On Thu, 18 May 2000, Ira Abramov wrote:
 
   I'm happy with ReiserFS now, what will XFS bring? will it work with LVM
   and other 2.4 features?
 
  What's the status of Journalling FS's right now? Can they be used for
  production work?
  Also, do you thinkit is possible to set up an NFS/Journalling FS combo,
  for a "safe" file server?

 as far as I understand there are still problems with NFS over ReiserFS
 (hadn't tried) and the only production system I heard of that uses it
 was one installed by Marc, and his advice was "stay away!". it's not all

It _is_ NOT stay away. If you do not need NFS, use it. If you do need NFS - be
very very careful. I have used it with NFS successfully (once) and
unsuccessfully (once). Caveat emptor.


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Fw: ISDN

2000-05-21 Thread Shapira Home Mail

Hi,
 could someone pls forward me and example of /etc/ppp/ioptions and
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets
does anyone have a script for ISDNnet (bezeqint)?
 
 Menachem Shapira


 - Original Message -
 From: Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Shapira Home Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Linux IL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:24 AM
 Subject: Re: ISDN
 
 
  Well, one thing you can do is to download KISDN (if you use KDE) and
  install it:
 
  http://www.millenniumx.de/kisdn.html
 
  And about the archives - please don't be lazy. Goto the Linux IL web
  pages: http://www.linux.org.il and look at the mailing lists archive
  there..
 
  Hetz
 
 
  Shapira Home Mail wrote:
  
   I have just recently joined... i don't really have the "archives" of
 this
   mailist...
   sorry,
   could you pls fwd me the right msgs?
   thx
   MS
   - Original Message -
   From: Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Shapira Home Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc: Linux IL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 12:16 AM
   Subject: Re: ISDN
  
Hi,
   
Well, All you have to do is looking at the Linux IL mailing list
 archive
- Many people have posted scripts and explanasion how to do it..
   
Hetz
   
   
 Shapira Home Mail wrote:

 Wondering if anyone can help me install ISDN with RH6.2, and pls
 don't
 refer me to the FAQs and Guides, cause I can't stand them.
 Thanks
 Menachem Shapira
   
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Re: ANNOUNCE: fribidi-0.1.12

2000-05-21 Thread Sivan Toledo


Here is the URL:

http://www.microsoft.com/typography/unicode/1255.htm

It's not for iso8859-8, which I don't think has LRM and RLM, but
for Microsoft's hebrew code page, 1255, which is essentially a
superset of 8859-8 (I didn't check all the details). Besides LRM
and RLM it also includes nikud and the "new shekel" sign.

Sivan

On Sat, 20 May 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In his message, Eli Marmor wrote,
  According to the standards, LRM is 0xFD (and not 0xFE) and RLM is 0xFE
  (and not 0xFF).
 
 Thanks for the info! You left the ivrix meeting last month before my
 talk so I didn't get your input then.
 
 It will be fixed in fribidi-0.1.13 which will make it to my site in
 the next few days. Meanwhile please apply the following patch manually
 if planning to use LRM and RLM for iso-8859-8:
 
 fribidi_char_sets.c:
  #define ISO_8_LRM 0xFE
  #define ISO_8_RLM 0xFF
 --
  #define ISO_8_LRM 0xFD
  #define ISO_8_RLM 0xFE
 
 Btw, exactly which standard? Any URL's?
 
 Dov
 
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Re: ANNOUNCE: fribidi-0.1.12

2000-05-21 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

ST http://www.microsoft.com/typography/unicode/1255.htm
ST 
ST It's not for iso8859-8, which I don't think has LRM and RLM, but

On my Unicode CD, there's no LRM and RLM in 8859-8. But that was 2.0 CD,
maybe there were changes since then...

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Re: the SGI Linux day

2000-05-21 Thread Marc A. Volovic

Eli Marmor wrote:

  It _is_ NOT stay away. If you do not need NFS, use it. If you do need NFS - be
  very very careful. I have used it with NFS successfully (once) and
  unsuccessfully (once). Caveat emptor.

 As a server or as a client?  I.e. to NFS-mount a ReiserFS on another
 machine, or to mount another (NFS-)filesystem UNDER a ReiserFS?

As a server. A ReiserFS filesystem exported over NFS to other machines.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: fribidi-0.1.12

2000-05-21 Thread Eli Marmor

 On my Unicode CD, there's no LRM and RLM in 8859-8. But that was 2.0 CD,
 maybe there were changes since then...

Unicode and ISO-8859-8 are "competing" standards, so I wouldn't expect
Unicode to include 8859-8...

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Re: Software transfer riddle

2000-05-21 Thread Dilog Mail

Thanks!

Any specific models (including those NOT to touch)?


Regards


Daniel


Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 
 Dear Daniel,
 
 Well, You can do something simple:
 
 There are kits you can buy which are Parallel-IDE or Parallel-SCSI -
 and then you connect to them your IDE or SCSI devices...
 
 Some CD-R's like HP Parallel CDR's (external) are just like this: An IDE
 drive + Parallel PCB with Shuttle Chipset which is supported under
 Linux..
 
 Hetz
 
 Daniel Feiglin wrote:
 
  Is there a device (tape, disk, writable CD) with about 0.5-1Gb capacity, which
  works off a parallel port,
  works under Linux, doesn't require proprietary software, isn't a pain to
  install  and doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
 
  Purpose: Simple file transfer and selective backup.
 
 --
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 Intelligence  Research
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linux-il meeting on June 2nd.

2000-05-21 Thread Shaul Karl

Hello,
While I email you the quoted message below Ira Abramov seems to be much more 
successful in arranging the next meeting.
For more details take a look at  http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/mailli
sts/00/05/msg00372.html

Will you be able to set up a meeting and speak about networking in TAU on July 
7th?


  Hello Shaul,
  
  I got the 1st opint from Roy. About the second issue, I will be glad
  to arrange activities in school of math (room, projector and so on) - if you
  want desert - that is on you. About the lecture - I can give it. I am
  dealing with mainly communication issues. I can give lecture from defining
  network card to nat and packet filtering. the question is - What do you
  need?
  
  Eddie
 
 
 Thank you for your efforts.
 About the topic, it is hard to tell since the expected audience is very 
 diverse. Personally I am looking for the more advanced topics although I am 
 not sure I am not trying to have it all and consequently left with nothing.
 
 I am ccing this to linux-il. Hopefully you will receive some replies that will 
 be better then mine and help you know the intended audience better.
 
 In any case, can I say for sure that the next linux-il meeting will be held on 
 Friday, June 2nd in TAU; that you will be the speaker and that only the exact 
 topic is to be determined?
 
 Are there any more issues to discuss in the meeting? I believe that there are 
 people who want to discuss the state of the linux-il web site, or am I being 
 confused with the agenda of the previous meeting?
  
 
  Hello Shaul,
  
  I got the 1st opint from Roy. About the second issue, I will be glad
  to arrange activities in school of math (room, projector and so on) - if you
  want desert - that is on you. About the lecture - I can give it. I am
  dealing with mainly communication issues. I can give lecture from defining
  network card to nat and packet filtering. the question is - What do you
  need?
  
  Eddie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Shaul Karl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 1:05 PM
  To: Eddie Aronovich
  Subject: [[EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: Lectures on Linux for Beginners] (fwd)
  
  
  Hello,
  Roi Hadar forward me your email since he is too busy lately with other
  things 
  (both related and not related to linux-il).
  1) How to join IGLU? IGLU is a non officail org. And by that I mean that 
  actually who ever heard about IGLU, read the mailing list and sees himself
  as 
  member is member.
  2) Leaving aside the location question for the moment, when will you be able
  
  to organize a lecture? What do you mean by "organizing"? Getting a room? 
  lecturing yourself? Find someone to lecture?
  
  Thank you.
  
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  Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 17:12:02 +0200 
  
  Hello Roy,
  
  I am happy to get the information about your activities. I will
  arrange the posibility to make the meetings at Schriber building which
  belongs to math and cs department on Fridays after we finish some remonte
  works (probably by end of June).
  
  As well - I want to arrange some more advanced lectures about Linux
  and Communication (like kdev, net/3 and so on). If you are interest please
  let me know (as well how to joing the IGLU - not 

Re: linux-il meeting on June 2nd.

2000-05-21 Thread Ira Abramov

On Sun, 21 May 2000, Shaul Karl wrote:

   Hello,
 While I email you the quoted message below Ira Abramov seems to be much more
 successful in arranging the next meeting.
 For more details take a look athttp://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Linux/mailli
 sts/00/05/msg00372.html
 
 Will you be able to set up a meeting and speak about networking in TAU on July
 7th?
 

sounds good. I'll be very keen to hear more about such large scale
management of users and security.

Shaul, thanks for the help, but please coordinate on IGLU such efforts,
so we know who is doing what. we end up dissing a good lecture volunteer
otherwise when we have to tell him we had a double booking. this is not
El Al.

to all the rest of the members: the meeting is (for now) still scheduled
to June 2snd at SGI Herzlia. I'll take this opportunity to remind you
all:

1. RSVP!  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. the meeting is about Python, and it's uses for sysadminning Unix
machines. lecture will be given by Moshez
3. RSVP, seats are limited!
4. Poofters and Grrls welcome too.
5. RSVP!
6. there is no rule #6!
7. RSVP!

May the Source be with you,
Ira.

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Re: KRUD

2000-05-21 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm looking over it, and I'm not too sure what they do "better". they
 include a few useful RPMs like ssh and ssl that can't come from RHAT
 (and I have no idea how they can ship it on CD to non-US destinations,
 but they seem to do). 

IIRC, ssh is developed and maintained from Finland. I am sure the
company has a US presence, in all probability in SIlicon Valley, but 
I don't think ssh ever was a purely US product. Therefore, there
should not be a problem with shipping it outside of US. 

Besides, there are 2 versions, commerciall and non-commercial. I
suspect there is a difference in encription, and I don't know which
is shipped by KRUD.

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Needed: new cellcom SMS script

2000-05-21 Thread Alon Altman

Hi,
  A cellcom script written by Nadav Har'el has been posted here some time
ago. Recently (today), cellcom has reformed their site, and the script no
longer works.
  It would be nice if an updated script will be posted here.

  Thanks,
Alon

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Re: KRUD

2000-05-21 Thread Ira Abramov

On 21 May 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:

 IIRC, ssh is developed and maintained from Finland. I am sure the
 company has a US presence, in all probability in SIlicon Valley, but
 I don't think ssh ever was a purely US product. Therefore, there
 should not be a problem with shipping it outside of US.
 
 Besides, there are 2 versions, commerciall and non-commercial. I
 suspect there is a difference in encription, and I don't know which
 is shipped by KRUD.

if it was that simple redhat and everybody would have sold it
too. Mandrake, which is in France, doesn't include it on the CD
either. there ARE legal problems with it.

whatever :-)


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Re: Needed: new cellcom SMS script

2000-05-21 Thread Nadav Har'El


On Sun, May 21, 2000, Alon Altman wrote about "Needed: new cellcom SMS script":
 Hi,
   A cellcom script written by Nadav Har'el has been posted here some time
 ago. Recently (today), cellcom has reformed their site, and the script no
 longer works.
   It would be nice if an updated script will be posted here.
 
   Thanks,
 Alon

Ok. Exactly 12 hours after Cellcom switched sites, I'm attaching the new
sendsms script which can send short messages to cellcom phones (using the
new site) and Orange (using their official site, not gosms.com, currently,
although I also have a version using gosms.com). Needless to say, sending
messages in this way is free, and you don't have to be a client of these
companies.

Don't forget to read the Installation Instructions inside the perl script.
The script will not work if you don't follow these instructions!

BTW, for users of the previous scripts I released, note the following points:
1. Newlines in messages to cellcom no longer worked correctly (they never
   worked in Orange). Unless Cellcom cooperates, it appears it will never
   work.
2. If you used Cellcom's old site and have a username and password, please
   try sending one message from their new site (isend.cellcom.co.il) before
   using the script, to see that it works. Note that instead of your "user
   name", you'll have to use your full email now (the same email you gave
   cellcom when you originally registered). The password remains the same.
   Cellcom will show you a new license - read it.
   Note, though, that if your password had weird punctuations in it, you
   won't be able to enter it into the new site, because of their weird
   Javascript! In this case, just try to use my script immediately. I think
   it should work, even if you never do get to read that new license.

Have fun, and send any ideas or patches (particularly a patch to add pelephon
support!) to me.

Nadav.

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#!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
##
# SMS sending script for Cellcom and Orange Israeli cellular phones
##
#
#Copyright (C) 1999-2000 Nadav Har'El
#License: GNU GPL
#
##
#
#Installation instructions: (don't forget to read this part!)
#
#1. You'll have to install the following perl libraries first
#Digest-MD5-2.09.tar.gz   MIME-Base64-2.11.tar.gz  libnet-1.0606.tar.gz
#HTML-Parser-2.23.tar.gz  URI-1.04.tar.gz  libwww-perl-5.44.tar.gz
#   (the version numbers are the ones I have - later versions should be ok)
#   Get them from www.cpan.org, if you don't have them.
#   Change the "BEGIN" line below to list the directory where you installed
#   these libraries (or remove that line altogether if you installed them
#   in the system's official Perl directory).
#
#2. You'll need accounts from cellcom and/or orange to send SMSs. These
#   are free, and have nothing to do with you having a cellular phone from
#   them or not. Register on the following sites:
#   Cellcom:http://isend.cellcom.co.il/English/Registration.htm
#   Orange: http://www.orange.co.il/orange_online/free_sms/scripts/reg.asp
#
#3. Set the CELLCOMTEXT_USER, CELLCOMTEXT_PASSWORD, ORANGETEXT_USER and
#   ORANGETEXT_PASSWORD below. If you do not do that for a particular company
#   (Cellcom or Orange), you won't be able to send SMSs to numbers in that
#   company.
#
##

#TODO: convert this to object oriented, with different classes for different
# companies with the same interface (use interitance).

require 5.004;
BEGIN {push @INC, ("/home/nyh/sendsms/lib/perl5/site_perl")}

use strict;
use Carp;
use LWP::UserAgent;
use URI::Escape;
use HTTP::Cookies; # Orange uses cookies;

#
### User-specific information: TODO: this information should be got from
### a user configuration file.

#DON'T FORGET TO CONFIGURE THIS! (see instructions above)
my $CELLCOMTEXT_USER='[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; my $CELLCOMTEXT_PASSWORD='pAsswOrd';
my $ORANGETEXT_USER='you'; my $ORANGETEXT_PASSWORD='pAsswOrd';
#

if($#ARGV+1 != 3){
print STDERR "Usage: $0 phonenum sender message\n";
exit 1;
}

my $phonenum=$ARGV[0];
# remove optional spaces, parantheses, or hyphens from phone number
$phonenum =~ s/[ ()-]//go;
my $sender=$ARGV[1];
my $message=$ARGV[2];
# Cellcom allows 1 ("Normal"), 2 

Re: Software transfer riddle

2000-05-21 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

Check the parallel section in the kernel - I know that Shuttle is
supported is most of the hardware Parallel-IDE equipment is with
Shuttle Chip.

Hetz


Dilog Mail wrote:
 
 Thanks!
 
 Any specific models (including those NOT to touch)?
 
 Regards
 
 Daniel
 
 Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
 
  Dear Daniel,
 
  Well, You can do something simple:
 
  There are kits you can buy which are Parallel-IDE or Parallel-SCSI -
  and then you connect to them your IDE or SCSI devices...
 
  Some CD-R's like HP Parallel CDR's (external) are just like this: An IDE
  drive + Parallel PCB with Shuttle Chipset which is supported under
  Linux..
 
  Hetz
 
  Daniel Feiglin wrote:
  
   Is there a device (tape, disk, writable CD) with about 0.5-1Gb capacity, which
   works off a parallel port,
   works under Linux, doesn't require proprietary software, isn't a pain to
   install  and doesn't cost an arm and a leg?
  
   Purpose: Simple file transfer and selective backup.
 
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Re: KRUD

2000-05-21 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt

Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 if it was that simple redhat and everybody would have sold it
 too. Mandrake, which is in France, doesn't include it on the CD
 either. there ARE legal problems with it.

I suspect it's licensing (not GPL, free for "non-commercial" use)
that precludes distribution, not USA vs. the rest of the world.

 whatever :-)

So stipulated ;-)

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RE: Software transfer riddle

2000-05-21 Thread Henry Ficher

You are describing the SparQ Parallel IDE Disk Drive from Syquest. Each 1.0
GB media cartridge costs about 200 shekels, and the drive itself about
1.200.

The drive works without much fuss under RedHat Linux's generic kernel. You
just need to connect the device to your parallel port and then enter, as
root:

insmod paride
insmod epat
insmod pd

Mount the drive and you are good to go.

If you compile your own kernel, make sure you include parallel support and
the shuttle driver as a module.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Feiglin
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 10:35 PM
To: IGLU
Subject: Software transfer riddle


Is there a device (tape, disk, writable CD) with about 0.5-1Gb capacity,
which
works off a parallel port,
works under Linux, doesn't require proprietary software, isn't a pain to
install  and doesn't cost an arm and a leg?

Purpose: Simple file transfer and selective backup.


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Re: ANNOUNCE: fribidi-0.1.12

2000-05-21 Thread Stanislav Malyshev a.k.a Frodo

EM Unicode and ISO-8859-8 are "competing" standards, so I wouldn't expect
EM Unicode to include 8859-8...

Er? So what that  8859-8.txt file on my Unicode CD really is?

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Re: Needed: new cellcom SMS script

2000-05-21 Thread Udi Finkelstein

On Sun, 21 May 2000 23:57:40 +0300, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


On Sun, May 21, 2000, Alon Altman wrote about "Needed: new cellcom SMS script":
 Hi,
   A cellcom script written by Nadav Har'el has been posted here some time
 ago. Recently (today), cellcom has reformed their site, and the script no
 longer works.

So that's why I stopped getting slashdot headers and Bursa indexs...

   It would be nice if an updated script will be posted here.
 
   Thanks,
 Alon

Ok. Exactly 12 hours after Cellcom switched sites, I'm attaching the new

This is not the first time they have done this. The first time, I've used
Nadav's original script which was based on a GET of the text.cellcom.co.il
URL, filtering the session number, and another GET. The modified procedure was
almost the same, but with a POST method at the end.
It seems like I'll need to study Nadav's script again.

Actually, I've reimplemented it because I was tired of installing all the Perl
packages needed for the program to work. Instead I've used the w3c utility to
do all the POST/GET methods, or even used lynx.

Actually, by looking at the code, Nadav's script seems more rubust. It's time
I'll harden mine, instead of ignoring errors. I also didn't support Orange so
far, but their prics seems to be better than cellcom these days
(unbelievable).

n.b. anyone knows if the new LG-800W from pelephone (the one with the free 300
minutes/month for pelephone 3 numbers) has an IR connection? it had a modem,
and if it had IR it would be ideal for palm owners.

Have fun, and send any ideas or patches (particularly a patch to add pelephon
support!) to me.
Pelephone support is easy. Just use Pelemail using
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for 051-xx numbers (correct me if I'm
wrong), and [EMAIL PROTECTED] for 050-xx numbers.

   Nadav.

nadav - thanks for the original script!

n.b. the old site used to say that it was limited to 20 messages/day (per
username ofcourse). From my experience, there was no such limit.

udi

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Re: Needed: new cellcom SMS script

2000-05-21 Thread Ira Abramov

On Sun, 21 May 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote:

 Ok. Exactly 12 hours after Cellcom switched sites, I'm attaching the new
 sendsms script which can send short messages to cellcom phones (using the

looks great! although my hack dumps all the communication headache at
wget, since it was always meant to be a quick throwaway, but yours is a
masterpiece :-)

I'll incorporate Lingua::En::Squeeze into it, with your permission, and
wrap it into a Qmail alias (so it does email-to-SMS), and send it back. 

only one bugfix: 

242c242
 } elsif($phonenum =~ m/^05[45][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]/){
---
 } elsif($phonenum =~ m/^054[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]/){

:-)


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Re: Needed: new cellcom SMS script

2000-05-21 Thread Gaal Yahas

On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:55:42AM +0200, Udi Finkelstein wrote:
 
 Actually, I've reimplemented it because I was tired of installing all the Perl
 packages needed for the program to work. Instead I've used the w3c utility to
 do all the POST/GET methods, or even used lynx.

To all of you who aren't sure they have the required modules installed,
doing:

perl -MCPAN -e 'install qw(Digest-MD5   MIME-Base64  libnet
   HTML-Parser  URI  libwww-perl)'

should help :-)

(Assuming your machine has an Internet connection.)

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Re: Needed: new cellcom SMS script

2000-05-21 Thread Nadav Har'El

On Mon, May 22, 2000, Ira Abramov wrote about "Re: Needed: new cellcom SMS script":
 On Sun, 21 May 2000, Nadav Har'El wrote:
 looks great! although my hack dumps all the communication headache at
 wget, since it was always meant to be a quick throwaway, but yours is a
 masterpiece :-)

I seems everybody wants to convert this script to use lynx, wget, or another
utility :)
Initially, my script was written in shell, using wget. But this was a dead-end:
It was too hard to do proper error checking (cellcom's old site had the
tendency to fail around 10% of the time, and a simple retry would work), and
too hard to get all the cookie stuff needed for Orange's site to work. Perhaps
I could have made it work, using curl, or another program, but it was too much
effort, and I started to feel the need for a real programming language, with
a real API for HTTP.
This is why I made the Perl version.

BTW, if I remember correctly, all the modules I mention are needed for
libwww-perl to work. It's a nice package, so it is worth the extra install
trouble (if you don't already have it installed).

 I'll incorporate Lingua::En::Squeeze into it, with your permission, and
 wrap it into a Qmail alias (so it does email-to-SMS), and send it back. 

:)

 only one bugfix: 
 
 242c242
  } elsif($phonenum =~ m/^05[45][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]/){
 ---
  } elsif($phonenum =~ m/^054[0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9][0-9]/){

Yes, of course... I guess I'm a little behind the times :)

P.S. what's missing from my sendsms script now is a queuing system, like
sendmail's: it needs to be able to queue messages when the connection to
the Cellcom or Orange site is down, or when too many connections to these
sites are already open, and then later send the queued messages. If anybody
is looking for a nice programming project...

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Re: KRUD

2000-05-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Sun, 21 May 2000, Ira Abramov wrote:

 On 21 May 2000, Oleg Goldshmidt wrote:
 
  IIRC, ssh is developed and maintained from Finland. I am sure the
  company has a US presence, in all probability in SIlicon Valley, but
  I don't think ssh ever was a purely US product. Therefore, there
  should not be a problem with shipping it outside of US.
 
  Besides, there are 2 versions, commerciall and non-commercial. I
  suspect there is a difference in encription, and I don't know which
  is shipped by KRUD.

The ssh packages come in two versions: a "us" one, that users RSAREF, and
an "international" one, that doesn't.

ssh1 is freely distributable (IIRC). Butt there is also openssh, which has
no commercial issues.
Anybody here tried openssh 2.1 (the added ssh2 protocol support to that
recent version)?

But I remeber seeing an advisory on RedHat's updates list about a problem
with an ssh package (that was incorrectly packaged by RH staf, IIRC)

 if it was that simple redhat and everybody would have sold it
 too. Mandrake, which is in France, doesn't include it on the CD

Mandrake is in Fance, or the US?

 either. there ARE legal problems with it.

Mandrake makes it availble for download from a seperate site. If you
manage to set up an internet connection at install time you have the
option of downloading all of those packages at install-time. 

Anyway - this is one of the things I added to my modified Mandrake image.

 whatever :-)

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Re: KRUD

2000-05-21 Thread Ira Abramov

On Mon, 22 May 2000, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 The ssh packages come in two versions: a "us" one, that users RSAREF, and
 an "international" one, that doesn't.

and neither is allowed to be exported from the USA. although they were
first IMported to begin with, doesn't matter (yes, weird law)

 ssh1 is freely distributable (IIRC). Butt there is also openssh, which has
 no commercial issues.

but has the same re-export problem (it's not developed in the US either)

  if it was that simple redhat and everybody would have sold it
  too. Mandrake, which is in France, doesn't include it on the CD
 
 Mandrake is in Fance, or the US?

like I wrote, Mandrake is a French company. although I heard rumors they
want to open a dev center in Israel. anyone knows who their local
contact is?

 Mandrake makes it availble for download from a seperate site. If you
 manage to set up an internet connection at install time you have the
 option of downloading all of those packages at install-time.

works nice, but lets you choose only from a limited list of European
sites. if you figure out how to edit that list when making a distro,
please add the one on IGLU.

 
 Anyway - this is one of the things I added to my modified Mandrake image.

ssh needs to generate a host key on installation, and do it in /mnt/etc
instead of /etc if done in the CD install stage. does it do that
correctly?

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hacking (and/or conversations with God)."
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