Is there a problem with IGLU's Debian mirror?

2002-05-31 Thread Shaul Karl

Is IGLU's Debian mirror working properly? In particular, isn't there a 
problem with the Packages and the Sources files?

follows the results of apt-get update when using IGLU and another 
mirror.

  * IGLU:

Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/main Packages
Get:1 http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/main Release [81B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/contrib Packages
Get:2 http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/contrib Release [84B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/non-free Packages
Get:3 http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/non-free Release [85B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/main Sources
Get:4 http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/main Release [83B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/contrib Sources
Get:5 http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/contrib Release [86B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/non-free Sources
Get:6 http://ftp.iglu.org.il testing/non-free Release [87B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/main Packages
Get:7 http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/main Release [82B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/contrib Packages
Get:8 http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/contrib Release [85B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/non-free Packages
Get:9 http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/non-free Release [86B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/main Sources
Get:10 http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/main Release [84B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/contrib Sources
Get:11 http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/contrib Release [87B]
Hit http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/non-free Sources
Get:12 http://ftp.iglu.org.il unstable/non-free Release [88B]
Fetched 1018B in 4s (250B/s)
Reading Package Lists...
Building Dependency Tree...


  * Another mirror:

Get:1 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Packages [1779kB]
Get:2 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Release [81B]  

Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Packages [49.3kB]   

Get:4 http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release [84B]   

Get:5 http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Packages [65.5kB]  

Get:6 http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Release [85B]  

Get:7 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Sources [732kB]

Get:8 http://http.us.debian.org testing/main Release [83B]  

Get:9 http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Sources [22.5kB]

Get:10 http://http.us.debian.org testing/contrib Release [86B]  

Get:11 http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Sources [28.3kB]  

Get:12 http://http.us.debian.org testing/non-free Release [87B] 

Get:13 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages [1931kB]
Get:14 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Release [82B]

Get:15 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib Packages [57.7kB] 

Get:16 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib Release [85B] 

Get:17 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Packages [72.2kB]

Get:18 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Release [86B]

Get:19 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Sources [788kB]  

Get:20 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main Release [84B]

Get:21 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib Sources [26.4kB]  

Get:22 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/contrib Release [87B] 

Get:23 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Sources [30.6kB] 

Get:24 http://http.us.debian.org unstable/non-free Release [88B] 
Fetched 5584kB in 12m28s (7460B/s)  

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
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Compiling KDE Apps

2002-05-31 Thread Erez Boym

Hi,

I'm trying to compile Caitoo and I am running in to a
problem I cant figure out.

My ./configure script exit with an error saying that
my system can not compile a small KDE application and
that I should check my includes insolation.

in side the ./configuree script is trying to compile
another script called conftest.C which uses an include
file calld kapplication.h now, I cant find the souce
of that include file I have installed all th KDE
packages including all the devel packages and it is
not there.

Can u direct me to where I can find that elusive
include file ?

which KDE package includes that file ?

Erez

PS
I'm running a RedHat 7.1 with KDE 2 compiling caitoo-0.6.6.

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Re:israrail's xls-only schedules

2002-05-31 Thread Corwin


On Thu, 23 May 2002, Christoph Bugel wrote:

 But which spreadsheet format should we ask them to use?
 
I think, if at the moment we can't find suitable opensrc spreadsheet
format, it would be nice to have *at least* PDF or HTML version
of their schedules. But again, they don't reply to emails.
BTW, in the past they published their magazine in pdf, so converting
to pdf shoudn't be a problem for them.


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Re: Compiling KDE Apps

2002-05-31 Thread Barak Kaufman

the error means u dont have teh -dev package
all u need is to know what kind of package are you trying to build (network 
mutimedia etc..) adn get the package-dev rpm.
should solve the problem. kapplication.h is probably a part of kdebase-dev or 
kdelibs-dev.

 file calld kapplication.h now, I cant find the souce
 of that include file I have installed all th KDE
 packages including all the devel packages and it is
 not there.

 Can u direct me to where I can find that elusive
 include file ?

 which KDE package includes that file ?

 Erez

 PS
 I'm running a RedHat 7.1 with KDE 2 compiling caitoo-0.6.6.

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Re: Giving/Selling RedHat 7.3

2002-05-31 Thread Eliran


- Original Message -
From: Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eliran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: Giving/Selling RedHat 7.3


 On Thu, May 30, 2002, Eliran wrote about Giving/Selling RedHat 7.3:
  Can any one burn me a copy of RH7.3 (not all 6 cd's neccessarily, the 3

 Please, when you make requests such as these specify where you live and
 work. Giving CDs to someone who could pass by your house one evening is
 much simpler than sending cds and cash by snail mail.

  installation disks are just fine) for a low price (less than 10 NIS for
  one disk) or for free (if any one is willing ;-)) ?

 Boy, are you a big spender - you're willing to spend a whopping $6 (30
NIS)
 on the CDs ;)

  Do you know other places than www.guides.co.il that sells linux CD's for
a low
  price (less than guides' price).

 I can't seem to connect to that site. How much do they ask for Redhat 7.3?


20 NIS for a disk that means 120 NIS for 6 CD's

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oo for windows?

2002-05-31 Thread Diego Iastrubni

A silly question: dos anybody want to build open office with bidi support for 
win32,mac and other os'es? Poeple do need those since not all will install 
linux for getting a free office... (is it our job anyway?)
 - diego


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Re: oo for windows?

2002-05-31 Thread Matitiahu Allouche

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
Mati: any idea if the bidi patch compiles under windows? If it runs?

In principle, the code is common.  At some point in time, our team built a 
working Bidi-enabled version of OO for Windows.  There were some 
differences with the Linux versions (some modules did not need change for 
the Windows version).  We did not check our latest version of patches on 
Windows (no time, no money, no  real interest - for us at least).

Shalom (Regards),  Mati
   Bidi Architect
   Globalization Center Of Competency - Bidirectional Scripts
   IBM Israel
   Phone: +972 2 5870999  ext. 1202Fax: +972 2 5870333 Mobile: 
+972 52 554160


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Re: Giving/Selling RedHat 7.3

2002-05-31 Thread Yedidyah Bar-David

Hi,

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 07:03:44PM +0200, Eliran wrote:
 \\ I don't know if it is much related but I couldn't find any other appropriate 
place..
 
 Can any one burn me a copy of RH7.3 (not all 6 cd's neccessarily, the 3 installation 
disks are just fine) for a low price (less than 10 NIS for one disk)
 or for free (if any one is willing ;-)) ?
 
 Do you know other places than www.guides.co.il that sells linux CD's for a low
 price (less than guides' price).
 
 Thanks a lot, Eliran
 
 
 

If you are a student of Tel-Aviv university, or know one, you might
want to know that we have (in Schreiber building, room 019) a public
machine with a CDR and images of RH on its disk.
I guess (hope?) that other universities offer similar services to
their students, you might want to look around.

Didi


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Re: Giving/Selling RedHat 7.3

2002-05-31 Thread Eliran


- Original Message -
From: Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Eliran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Giving/Selling RedHat 7.3


 Hi,

 On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 07:03:44PM +0200, Eliran wrote:
  \\ I don't know if it is much related but I couldn't find any other
appropriate place..
 
  Can any one burn me a copy of RH7.3 (not all 6 cd's neccessarily, the 3
installation disks are just fine) for a low price (less than 10 NIS for one
disk)
  or for free (if any one is willing ;-)) ?
 
  Do you know other places than www.guides.co.il that sells linux CD's for
a low
  price (less than guides' price).
 
  Thanks a lot, Eliran
 
 
 

 If you are a student of Tel-Aviv university, or know one, you might
 want to know that we have (in Schreiber building, room 019) a public
 machine with a CDR and images of RH on its disk.
 I guess (hope?) that other universities offer similar services to
 their students, you might want to look around.

Sounds interesting, I will check it out.


 Didi




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Old RH distros CDs

2002-05-31 Thread Boris Gorelik

Hi,
I have the following distros: RH 6.0, 7.1, 7.2. I don't know what to do with 
them (don't want to throw them to the garbage). So if anyone wants them, 
please send me postal stamps and I'll send them to you. (I live and work in 
Jerusalem, a personal meeting is also an option)

Boris

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RMS is back again

2002-05-31 Thread Eliran



Well, here is another response of Richard M. 
Stallman the FSF founder.

Now he condemns the UnitedLinux 
(Suse, Turbo Linux, Mandrake and others joined forces).

What next ?
Regards,
Eliran


Re: RMS is back again

2002-05-31 Thread Diego Iastrubni

job job, someone has to speak for those who cannt ('cause they are coding too 
much) He _is_ right. The day this will happen a big part of freedom will be 
ported to win32 platform.

 - diego

On Friday 31 May 2002 22:29, Eliran wrote:
 Well, here is another response of Richard M. Stallman the FSF founder.

 Now he condemns the UnitedLinux (Suse, Turbo Linux, Mandrake and others
 joined forces).

 What next ?

 Regards,
 Eliran

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Re: RMS is back again

2002-05-31 Thread Christoph Bugel

On 2002-05-31, Eliran wrote:
 Well, here is another response of Richard M. Stallman the FSF founder.
 
 Now he condemns the UnitedLinux (Suse, Turbo Linux, Mandrake and others joined 
forces).
 
 What next ?

Maybe you should explain *why* you disagree with RMS.
I think RMS is right.

BTW, Mandrake is not part of UL.

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Re: Re:israrail's xls-only schedules

2002-05-31 Thread Christoph Bugel

On 2002-05-31, Corwin wrote:
 
 On Thu, 23 May 2002, Christoph Bugel wrote:
 
  But which spreadsheet format should we ask them to use?
  
 I think, if at the moment we can't find suitable opensrc spreadsheet
 format, it would be nice to have *at least* PDF or HTML version
 of their schedules. But again, they don't reply to emails.
 BTW, in the past they published their magazine in pdf, so converting
 to pdf shoudn't be a problem for them.


Maybe you should try mail or fax
(from http://www.israrail.org.il/english/travel/travel.html)

==
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Please address requests and complaints to:
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The Public Commissioner
P.O. Box 18085 Tel-Aviv, Zip 61180 .
Fax: 03-6937443 .
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I agree with you that they didn't think enough about non-M$ users
when they added the .xls file (apparently without testing if it
looks ok in other spreadsheets). But then I think they are not too
bad either, and with some positive feedback they will listen. (maybe
:) Note for example that they say 'best viewed in 800x600', but they
don't mention the browser. this hint that they are at least a little
cluefull :-)



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Re: RMS is back again

2002-05-31 Thread Shlomi Fish

On Fri, 31 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote:

 job job, someone has to speak for those who cannt ('cause they are coding too
 much) He _is_ right. The day this will happen a big part of freedom will be
 ported to win32 platform.


It is legally possible to port GPLed software to Win32. In fact, this has
happened with Cygnus and Friends. This is in a similar spirit to the fact
that GPLed software can be run on proprietary UNIXes.

The way I see it, RMS speaks only for himself. Some people agree with him
or with some things he says; others, like me, usually don't. But there's a
difference between a leader and a spokesperson.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

  - diego

 On Friday 31 May 2002 22:29, Eliran wrote:
  Well, here is another response of Richard M. Stallman the FSF founder.
 
  Now he condemns the UnitedLinux (Suse, Turbo Linux, Mandrake and others
  joined forces).
 
  What next ?
 
  Regards,
  Eliran

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Re: RMS is back again

2002-05-31 Thread Diego Iastrubni

On Saturday 01 June 2002 02:41, Shlomi Fish wrote:
 On Fri, 31 May 2002, Diego Iastrubni wrote:
  job job, someone has to speak for those who cannt ('cause they are coding
  too much) He _is_ right. The day this will happen a big part of freedom
  will be ported to win32 platform.

 It is legally possible to port GPLed software to Win32. In fact, this has
 happened with Cygnus and Friends. This is in a similar spirit to the fact
 that GPLed software can be run on proprietary UNIXes.
i was joking. what i meant was that gpl software can be reproduced freely, 
while those packages (build open free sources) are not freely available. If 
indeed i missread th gpl, kde/gnome duds can not give authorization to that 
distros to distribute their packages (something like Linus does not bother 
about binary-only kernel modules, even that it violates gpl). what will be 
next: per seat or per server licenses in kcontrol?

talking about free win32 software: here is the url for kde 2.2 for windows 
(beta 1): 
http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net

 - diego

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Re: RMS is back again

2002-05-31 Thread Tzafrir Cohen

On Fri, 31 May 2002, Eliran wrote:

 Well, here is another response of Richard M. Stallman the FSF founder.

 Now he condemns the UnitedLinux (Suse, Turbo Linux, Mandrake and others
 joined forces).

Let's get some facts straight first:

SuSE, TurboLinux, Caldera and Conectiva (not Mandrake) recently annonced
UnitedLinux:

  http://unitedlinux.com

There are still many unclear things about this new distribution.

From what I understand this is going to be a core of a distribution,
rather than a complete distribution. Each of the four companies will
add value to its version and market it seperately.

Currently Caldera licenses its OpenLinux distribution in a per-seat
license, and there were some hints that this would be the chosen (or
preffered?) license for the new distribution. This got RMS very upset,
and hence his remarks.

RMS here is in his usual role of a watchdog. It is possible that he is
barking too soon, though.

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