Re: Mounting few Iso's on the same point
thnaks, that what I was looking for. I tried it, and it does not produce anything. I do not know much perl. I used the debugger and saw that in the lines foreach my $name (grep(!/^(\.|\.\.)$/, readdir(DIRHANDLE))) and while (($key,$value) = each %symlinks) the script never continue inside the block. i.e. the script cannot see the files/dirs in the source dir any adea ? Im running it as root, and the mount is done as root as well. I also tried union /boot /root /tmp and again, nothing happened. Alon. Ilya Konstantinov wrote: On Monday 07 October 2002 16:01, Alon Barzilai wrote: mount -t iso9660 -o ro 1.iso /mnt/disk1 mount -t iso9660 -o ro 2.iso /mnt/disk1 This is called union mount. Linux does not have this feature (I think BSD has it). I remember a few months ago someone metioned something similar here, but I could not find this message. Here's the solution I use on IGLU's server. On IGLU, we wanted to mount all of RedHat ISOs into their standard directory structure, as it appears on RedHat's FTP site, to save disk space. It all worked out pretty well. 1. Mount the ISOs into different directories. 2. Use my union utility to consolidate the different directories into one single directory. It creates directories and symbolic links as necessary, so that the target directory almost doesn't take up any disk space. Usage: union source-dir1 source-dir2 source-dir2 ... target-dir (Tip: If you want to offer those files via FTP, like we do, make the source directory paths relative -- because your FTP site doesn't begin at /) You can get it from http://toast.unwind.co.il/hacks/union Share and enjoy! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The new build of openoffice
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
It's out and like yba said it supports bidi,
I guess IBM-israel goverment project is off?
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
Hi Ely,
The government is free to pursue this with IBM or with anyone else.
However, IMHO, it should be clear now from the OO 643 build that Sun's
solution is the correct way to go and that the IBM patch is now totally
obsolete. The full release is scheduled for April 2003. That release
should be of sufficent quality to be usable for personal and academic use
with Hebrew support for all OO componente, especially StarCalc. A business
quality release will follow.
Regards,
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Re: The new build of openoffice
However, IMHO, it should be clear now from the OO 643 build that Sun's
solution is the correct way to go and that the IBM patch is now totally
obsolete.
Why, what's wrong with IBM's patch?
Alexander Maryanovsky.
At 10:40 08.10.2002 +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
It's out and like yba said it supports bidi,
I guess IBM-israel goverment project is off?
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
Hi Ely,
The government is free to pursue this with IBM or with anyone else.
However, IMHO, it should be clear now from the OO 643 build that Sun's
solution is the correct way to go and that the IBM patch is now totally
obsolete. The full release is scheduled for April 2003. That release
should be of sufficent quality to be usable for personal and academic use
with Hebrew support for all OO componente, especially StarCalc. A business
quality release will follow.
Regards,
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Re: The new build of openoffice
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Alexander Maryanovsky wrote:
However, IMHO, it should be clear now from the OO 643 build that Sun's
solution is the correct way to go and that the IBM patch is now totally
obsolete.
Why, what's wrong with IBM's patch?
Hi Alexander,
Nothing is *wrong* with IBM's patch. It's a fine piece of engineering. I
use it myself. However, Sun's solution is better from an engineering
standpoint because it is not a bidi solution, it's an internationalization
solution - works the same way with all languages, and it works for all OO
components, and it is part of OO, whereas IBM's patch is not. That means
that you aren't stuck with an old OO version as you are with IBM's patch.
Regards,
- yba
Alexander Maryanovsky.
At 10:40 08.10.2002 +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Ely Levy wrote:
It's out and like yba said it supports bidi,
I guess IBM-israel goverment project is off?
Ely Levy
System group
Hebrew University
Jerusalem Israel
Hi Ely,
The government is free to pursue this with IBM or with anyone else.
However, IMHO, it should be clear now from the OO 643 build that Sun's
solution is the correct way to go and that the IBM patch is now totally
obsolete. The full release is scheduled for April 2003. That release
should be of sufficent quality to be usable for personal and academic use
with Hebrew support for all OO componente, especially StarCalc. A business
quality release will follow.
Regards,
- yba
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Re: Mounting few Iso's on the same point
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:13:39 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
1. Mount the ISOs into different directories.
2. Use my union utility to consolidate the different directories into one
single directory. It creates directories and symbolic links as necessary, so
that the target directory almost doesn't take up any disk space.
Usage:
union source-dir1 source-dir2 source-dir2 ... target-dir
(Tip: If you want to offer those files via FTP, like we do, make the source
directory paths relative -- because your FTP site doesn't begin at /)
You can get it from
http://toast.unwind.co.il/hacks/union
This union script is a VERY nice idea. I rewritten your perl script in
shell (I consider sh/bash more portable then perl), See below.
Ehud.
#! /bin/sh -e
# Compile by: /bin/sh -ex $*
#
# 1st arg = target-dir
# more args = sources dirs (to be symlinks)
# --
walk_dir ()# walk all files on dir $1 (abs path)
{ # make symlinks / create dirs on $2 (abs
path)
SRC=$1 # source dir
DEST=$2 # destination
mkdir -p $DEST # create dir if does not exist
RLTV=$SRC## FIX ME - relative address of $SRC to $DEST
cd $SRC# work in source dir
for SUBD in * # do for all files/dirs
do
DSUB=$DEST/$SUBD # destination subdir
if [ -d $SUBD ] ; then # directory ?
( walk_dir $SRC/$SUBD $DSUB ) # walk this subdir (in subshell)
else
if [ -e $DSUB ] ; then # name already exists
echo File $DSUB is multply defined, see below
ls -al $DSUB # previous (symlink)
ls -al $SRC/$SUBD# current
echo
ERR=ON # error occurred
else
ln -s $RLTV/$SUBD $DSUB # create symbolic link (RELATIVE)
fi
fi
done
}
# --
umask 022 # read for all
TRGT=$1# target dir
shift # leave only source dirs
CRNT=`pwd` # save current dir
mkdir -p $TRGT # create $TRGT if does not exist
cd $TRGT
TRGT=`pwd` # Target dir (absolute form)
ERR= # no error switch
for SDIR in $@ # work on all source dirs
do
cd $CRNT # needed if source dir is relative path
cd $SDIR
CSDR=`pwd` # for error messages
walk_dir $CSDR $TRGT # walk all files on dir $CSDR
done
## union.sh ##
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Re: Mounting few Iso's on the same point
thanks,
works great.
Alon.
Ehud Karni wrote:
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:13:39 +0200, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
1. Mount the ISOs into different directories.
2. Use my union utility to consolidate the different directories into one
single directory. It creates directories and symbolic links as necessary, so
that the target directory almost doesn't take up any disk space.
Usage:
union source-dir1 source-dir2 source-dir2 ... target-dir
(Tip: If you want to offer those files via FTP, like we do, make the source
directory paths relative -- because your FTP site doesn't begin at /)
You can get it from
http://toast.unwind.co.il/hacks/union
This union script is a VERY nice idea. I rewritten your perl script in
shell (I consider sh/bash more portable then perl), See below.
Ehud.
#! /bin/sh -e
# Compile by: /bin/sh -ex $*
#
# 1st arg = target-dir
# more args = sources dirs (to be symlinks)
# --
walk_dir ()# walk all files on dir $1 (abs path)
{ # make symlinks / create dirs on $2 (abs
path)
SRC=$1 # source dir
DEST=$2 # destination
mkdir -p $DEST # create dir if does not exist
RLTV=$SRC## FIX ME - relative address of $SRC to $DEST
cd $SRC# work in source dir
for SUBD in * # do for all files/dirs
do
DSUB=$DEST/$SUBD # destination subdir
if [ -d $SUBD ] ; then # directory ?
( walk_dir $SRC/$SUBD $DSUB ) # walk this subdir (in subshell)
else
if [ -e $DSUB ] ; then # name already exists
echo File $DSUB is multply defined, see below
ls -al $DSUB # previous (symlink)
ls -al $SRC/$SUBD# current
echo
ERR=ON # error occurred
else
ln -s $RLTV/$SUBD $DSUB # create symbolic link (RELATIVE)
fi
fi
done
}
# --
umask 022 # read for all
TRGT=$1# target dir
shift # leave only source dirs
CRNT=`pwd` # save current dir
mkdir -p $TRGT # create $TRGT if does not exist
cd $TRGT
TRGT=`pwd` # Target dir (absolute form)
ERR= # no error switch
for SDIR in $@ # work on all source dirs
do
cd $CRNT # needed if source dir is relative path
cd $SDIR
CSDR=`pwd` # for error messages
walk_dir $CSDR $TRGT # walk all files on dir $CSDR
done
## union.sh ##
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Re: A disturbing article...
Hi, On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 08:05:18AM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1883 I think it was agreed a few months ago that such messages should contain a small description of the article, for those that do not have the whole day to read such things. It's about a dissapointment of someone that tried to convert from Windows to Linux. Didi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting few Iso's on the same point
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 11:18:44AM +0200, Alon Barzilai wrote: any adea ? Something was very weird in the script. I've fixed it now and an updated version is online. In fact, this new version works better than the original, since it handles both relative and absolute paths correctly, e.g.: union /usr/bin /usr/local/bin /foo/bin -- will make the symlinks in /foo/bin absolute cd /usr union bin local/bin /usr/foo/bin -- will make the symlinks in /foo/bin relative (e.g. /usr/foo/bin/gcc = ../../local/bin/gcc) You don't have to use an absolute path for target either -- it could've been foo/bin and then the union would be in /usr/foo/bin. The URL is: http://toast.unwind.co.il/hacks/union = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: perl question
On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Arie Folger wrote: This is useful for creating localizable error messages that contain runtime information. On C (and actually, on PHP) gettext is used for this task. Isn't there a ready gettext (or equivalent) module on perl? Perl actually has quite a few language-dependent texts. Maybe begin with 'perdoc perllocale' -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting few Iso's on the same point
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On Tuesday 08 October 2002 00:13, you wrote:
On Monday 07 October 2002 16:01, Alon Barzilai wrote:
mount -t iso9660 -o ro 1.iso /mnt/disk1
mount -t iso9660 -o ro 2.iso /mnt/disk1
This is called union mount. Linux does not have this feature (I think BSD
has it).
Actually, there were some noises made by Al Viro that were implying that this
is something which is in his tree.
Meanwhile - If you are into development then you can use use (file
systems in user space) and the attached file (by yours truly) to get you
started. I haven't tested it well and I *** KNOW *** that it has problems and
just didn't have any time to work on it What can you expect out of 25
minutes of coding ?...:)
Have fun
Mark
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diff -urN fuse-0.95/example/Makefile.am fuse-0.95-mark/example/Makefile.am
--- fuse-0.95/example/Makefile.am Wed Nov 21 11:52:42 2001
+++ fuse-0.95-mark/example/Makefile.am Thu Jan 10 16:08:26 2002
@@ -1,9 +1,11 @@
## Process this file with automake to produce Makefile.in
-noinst_PROGRAMS = fusexmp null hello
+noinst_PROGRAMS = fusexmp null hello mount union_mount
fusexmp_SOURCES = fusexmp.c
null_SOURCES = null.c
hello_SOURCES = hello.c
+mount_SOURCES = mount.c
+union_mount_SOURCES = union_mount.c
LDADD = ../lib/libfuse.a -lpthread
diff -urN fuse-0.95/example/Makefile.in fuse-0.95-mark/example/Makefile.in
--- fuse-0.95/example/Makefile.in Wed Jan 9 15:51:33 2002
+++ fuse-0.95-mark/example/Makefile.in Thu Jan 10 16:11:27 2002
@@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
-# Makefile.in generated automatically by automake 1.4-p4 from Makefile.am
+# Makefile.in generated automatically by automake 1.4-p5 from Makefile.am
-# Copyright (C) 1994, 1995-8, 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+# Copyright (C) 1994, 1995-8, 1999, 2001 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
# This Makefile.in is free software; the Free Software Foundation
# gives unlimited permission to copy and/or distribute it,
# with or without modifications, as long as this notice is preserved.
@@ -66,11 +66,13 @@
VERSION = @VERSION@
kmoduledir = @kmoduledir@
-noinst_PROGRAMS = fusexmp null hello
+noinst_PROGRAMS = fusexmp null hello mount union_mount
fusexmp_SOURCES = fusexmp.c
null_SOURCES = null.c
hello_SOURCES = hello.c
+mount_SOURCES = mount.c
+union_mount_SOURCES = union_mount.c
LDADD = ../lib/libfuse.a -lpthread
mkinstalldirs = $(SHELL) $(top_srcdir)/mkinstalldirs
@@ -95,6 +97,14 @@
hello_LDADD = $(LDADD)
hello_DEPENDENCIES = ../lib/libfuse.a
hello_LDFLAGS =
+mount_OBJECTS = mount.o
+mount_LDADD = $(LDADD)
+mount_DEPENDENCIES = ../lib/libfuse.a
+mount_LDFLAGS =
+union_mount_OBJECTS = union_mount.o
+union_mount_LDADD = $(LDADD)
+union_mount_DEPENDENCIES = ../lib/libfuse.a
+union_mount_LDFLAGS =
CFLAGS = @CFLAGS@
COMPILE = $(CC) $(DEFS) $(INCLUDES) $(AM_CPPFLAGS) $(CPPFLAGS) $(AM_CFLAGS) $(CFLAGS)
CCLD = $(CC)
@@ -104,10 +114,10 @@
DISTFILES = $(DIST_COMMON) $(SOURCES) $(HEADERS) $(TEXINFOS) $(EXTRA_DIST)
-TAR = tar
+TAR = gtar
GZIP_ENV = --best
-SOURCES = $(fusexmp_SOURCES) $(null_SOURCES) $(hello_SOURCES)
-OBJECTS = $(fusexmp_OBJECTS) $(null_OBJECTS) $(hello_OBJECTS)
+SOURCES = $(fusexmp_SOURCES) $(null_SOURCES) $(hello_SOURCES) $(mount_SOURCES) $(union_mount_SOURCES)
+OBJECTS = $(fusexmp_OBJECTS) $(null_OBJECTS) $(hello_OBJECTS) $(mount_OBJECTS) $(union_mount_OBJECTS)
all: all-redirect
.SUFFIXES:
@@ -160,6 +170,14 @@
@rm -f hello
$(LINK) $(hello_LDFLAGS) $(hello_OBJECTS) $(hello_LDADD) $(LIBS)
+mount: $(mount_OBJECTS) $(mount_DEPENDENCIES)
+ @rm -f mount
+ $(LINK) $(mount_LDFLAGS) $(mount_OBJECTS) $(mount_LDADD) $(LIBS)
+
+union_mount: $(union_mount_OBJECTS) $(union_mount_DEPENDENCIES)
+ @rm -f union_mount
+ $(LINK) $(union_mount_LDFLAGS) $(union_mount_OBJECTS) $(union_mount_LDADD) $(LIBS)
+
tags: TAGS
ID: $(HEADERS) $(SOURCES) $(LISP)
@@ -204,7 +222,6 @@
|| cp -p $$d/$$file $(distdir)/$$file || :; \
fi; \
done
-
info-am:
info: info-am
dvi-am:
diff -urN fuse-0.95/example/fusexmp.c fuse-0.95-mark/example/fusexmp.c
--- fuse-0.95/example/fusexmp.c Tue Jan 8 11:40:12 2002
+++ fuse-0.95-mark/example/fusexmp.c Thu Jan 10 16:12:06 2002
@@ -18,6 +18,7 @@
#include dirent.h
#include errno.h
#include sys/statfs.h
+#include string.h
static int xmp_getattr(const char *path, struct stat *stbuf)
{
diff -urN fuse-0.95/example/hello.c fuse-0.95-mark/example/hello.c
--- fuse-0.95/example/hello.c Tue Jan 8 11:40:12 2002
+++ fuse-0.95-mark/example/hello.c Thu Jan 10 14:39:15 2002
@@ -10,6 +10,7 @@
#include stdio.h
#include errno.h
#include fcntl.h
+#include string.h
static const char *hello_str = Hello World!\n;
static const char *hello_path = /hello;
diff -urN fuse-0.95/example/mount.c
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Re: ddclient question
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DNS configuration problem
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this is mandrake 9, fresh install .
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i rebooted the machine today, and X will not load. it complains that no
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worked.
Look for clues in /var/log/XFree86.0.log. If it doesn't make any sense
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Re: DNS configuration problem
On 10/8/2002 5:09 PM, Alex Shnitman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to solve a problem we have with our DNS services. We have a primary DNS server here in the company, and Internet Zahav are secondaries for us. When I query either our server or one of the Internet Zahav servers about the MX record for our domain, they answer fine. When I query other name servers, it doesn't work -- either a timeout or SERVFAIL. You can try this yourself. The domain name is mangodsp.com. You can query 192.116.213.66 (our name server) or the Internet Zahav name servers and it works fine. If you query e.g. dns.netvision.net.il it doesn't work. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com ns1.bezeqint.net Using domain server: Name: ns1.bezeqint.net Address: 192.115.106.10#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com pdns.goldenlines.co.il Using domain server: Name: pdns.goldenlines.co.il Address: 212.117.129.3#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com ns1.actcom.co.il Using domain server: Name: ns1.actcom.co.il Address: 192.114.47.1#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com dns.netvision.net.il ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached [sagi@domino admin]$ host -t mx mangodsp.com dns2.netvision.net.il Using domain server: Name: dns2.netvision.net.il Address: 212.143.212.143#53 Aliases: mangodsp.com mail is handled by 0 smtp.webcom.com. [sagi@domino admin]$ 4 out of 5. Only netvisionn's DNS can't see it, so it's probably a problem with their DNS. Which other servers did you have problem with? Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS configuration problem
hi, whois search tells me your reconrd updated today. could it be that all the other dns still look for old server ? Alon Alex Shnitman wrote: Hi, I'm trying to solve a problem we have with our DNS services. We have a primary DNS server here in the company, and Internet Zahav are secondaries for us. When I query either our server or one of the Internet Zahav servers about the MX record for our domain, they answer fine. When I query other name servers, it doesn't work -- either a timeout or SERVFAIL. You can try this yourself. The domain name is mangodsp.com. You can query 192.116.213.66 (our name server) or the Internet Zahav name servers and it works fine. If you query e.g. dns.netvision.net.il it doesn't work. Any idea at all? Why isn't the information propagated in any way? If the zone file is necessary, I can post it. However it seems that it's OK, given that our name server and Internet Zahav's secondaries answer the queires fine. I feel like I'm missing something here. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The new build of openoffice
07/10/02 21:32:22, Sagi Bashari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/7/2002 11:13 PM, Noam Meltzer wrote: Where is it avail. for download? http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/643/index.html BTW - It took me awhile to figure this - to change to full BiDi RTL mode you need to add the toolbar icons - right click on the toolbar - visible buttons - right-to-left/left-to-right. Sagi Which version/build is this again ?? At their site they claim 1.0.1 is merely a bug fix version, while 643 is a development build and therefore NOT so stable... Eli There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.. - Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The new build of openoffice
On 10/8/2002 11:35 PM, voguemaster wrote: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/643/index.html BTW - It took me awhile to figure this - to change to full BiDi RTL mode you need to add the toolbar icons - right click on the toolbar - visible buttons - right-to-left/left-to-right. Sagi Which version/build is this again ?? At their site they claim 1.0.1 is merely a bug fix version, while 643 is a development build and therefore NOT so stable... 643. It's the first dev version with BiDi support. No one said it's stable. Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS configuration problem
On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 18:29, Sagi Bashari wrote: 4 out of 5. Only netvisionn's DNS can't see it, so it's probably a problem with their DNS. Which other servers did you have problem with? You are right. Besides the Netvision server I've tried only Fiasco's own name server which also failed, but apparently it's a different problem. I also tried other servers around the world (I just ran whois on various domains and tried their name servers), but now that I think about it, I guess the reason why they don't give me this info is that they're configured to answer only queries regarding their own domains, and not do recursive queries for others. Thanks for the help! -- Alex Shnitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hectic.net/ UIN 188956 PGP 0xEC5D619D / E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xmms rh8
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Mark Veltzer wrote: I understood that Ogg is also video ready. It's supposed to be a sort of Meta-Format for binary streamed media so if you wanted to put video in Ogg you could. I also undestood that the video enhancements are already in the making. Anybody who knows better care to comment ? I don't recall the exact terminology but: ogg-vorbis: a format for sound (including streaming). version 1.0 already exists. ogg-theora: A younger format, currently in the works, for video: http://www.theora.org/ -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS configuration problem
Title: RE: DNS configuration problem server 212.150.48.169 Default Server: ns.barak.net.il Address: 212.150.48.169 set type=mx mangodsp.com Server: ns.barak.net.il Address: 212.150.48.169 Non-authoritative answer: mangodsp.com MX preference = 0, mail exchanger = smtp.webcom mangodsp.com nameserver = 192.116.192.9 mangodsp.com nameserver = 192.116.202.99 mangodsp.com nameserver = 192.116.213.66 Barak already knows about you. Wait for tomorrow. == Evgeny Popov Network and Security Administrator Phone: 972-9-9594995 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tecnomatix Tecnologies Ltd. == Unix IS user friendly, it is just selective about who his friends are. Anonymous -Original Message- From: Alex Shnitman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: DNS configuration problem Hi, I'm trying to solve a problem we have with our DNS services. We have a primary DNS server here in the company, and Internet Zahav are secondaries for us. When I query either our server or one of the Internet Zahav servers about the MX record for our domain, they answer fine. When I query other name servers, it doesn't work -- either a timeout or SERVFAIL. You can try this yourself. The domain name is mangodsp.com. You can query 192.116.213.66 (our name server) or the Internet Zahav name servers and it works fine. If you query e.g. dns.netvision.net.il it doesn't work. Any idea at all? Why isn't the information propagated in any way? If the zone file is necessary, I can post it. However it seems that it's OK, given that our name server and Internet Zahav's secondaries answer the queires fine. I feel like I'm missing something here. -- Alex Shnitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hectic.net/ UIN 188956 PGP 0xEC5D619D / E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any one or make copies. ** eSafe-IL scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** **
Re: xmms rh8
On Mon, 7 Oct 2002, Oron Peled wrote: On Mon, 7 Oct 2002 20:53:29 +0200 Mark Veltzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 07 October 2002 19:23, you wrote: MPEG-2 --- maybe RealNetwork new open source technology??? who knows? I understood that Ogg is also video ready. It's supposed to be a sort of Meta-Format for binary streamed media so if you wanted to put video in Ogg you could. I also undestood that the video enhancements are already in the making. Anybody who knows better care to comment ? Ok, you probably refer to what I vaguely recollected... It's called Helix and the url is: http://www.realnetworks.com/company/press/releases/2002/xiph.html I listed it as questionable only because it is very young announcement and we don't know yetfor sure how free will it be (e.g: would all components of the new architecture free software, or just the decoders). Real Networks are not going to release their codecs. The Helix framework allows the usage of such plugins. It allows the use of ogg-vorbis (and of ogg-theora, eventually). -- Tzafrir Cohen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.technion.ac.il/~tzafrir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS configuration problem
On Tue, 2002-10-08 at 18:59, Alon Barzilai wrote: whois search tells me your reconrd updated today. could it be that all the other dns still look for old server ? I did update the zone file today, but that was only to add the $TTL line (which wasn't there before, so named used the default -- should be fine anyway), because I thought it may have something to do with the problem. Other than that the zone hasn't changed in months. -- Alex Shnitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hectic.net/ UIN 188956 PGP 0xEC5D619D / E1 F2 7B 6C A0 31 80 28 63 B8 02 BA 65 C7 8B BA = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JOB WANTED
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 08 Oct: Quoting Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For reasons that shall remain off-topic for this list (this seems to be a good tradition nowadays), I am in the market for a new job. My preferences, inclinations, et caetera can be found at I think we just made sure together no sane Linux geek will ever think to work for or with Qlueless in israel... not that it was Are we starting an Alehoom? For the record I also got to the same conclusion after 4-5 days with Q-less and Dr. Foo, and left there after less than 2 weeks as well. -- Macho Macho Man Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ This post is encrypted twice with ROT-13. Documenting or attempting to crack this encryption is illegal. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: JOB WANTED
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002, Ira Abramov wrote about Re: JOB WANTED: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED], from the post of Tue, 08 Oct: Quoting Oleg Goldshmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I think we just made sure together no sane Linux geek will ever think to work for or with Qlueless in israel... not that it was Are we starting an Alehoom? For the record I also got to the same conclusion after 4-5 days with Q-less and Dr. Foo, and left there after less than 2 weeks as well. I suggest you take this discussion to a private venue. Most people here probably don't know who Qlueless and Dr. Foo are :) -- Nadav Har'El| Tuesday, Oct 8 2002, 3 Heshvan 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Snowflakes are very fragile, but look http://nadav.harel.org.il |what they can do when they stick together! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Season for Alehoom on bad employers? (was: Re: JOB WANTED)
On Tue, 8 Oct 2002, Ira Abramov wrote: Are we starting an Alehoom? Before starting, or before continuing, bad-mouthing bad employers, may I suggest that the disgruntled employees/former employees think two steps ahead, and consider their own reputation. Unless there was a violation of the Israeli employment laws (and I don't consider work on Saturday with proper compenstaion but without permit from Ministry of Labor as a violation which justifies badmouthing), I would advise the former employee to shut up, and tell his story only in private and only when explicitly asked about the circumstances. This is because walking around with a bit of stench behind one does no good to anyone. Only people, who need to know (such as friends considering employment there and the next employer), should be told about the stinking details. Now, I'll happily contradict what I wrote above! Several years ago, I was married and I was employed. I was not happy with the job I had the time, hence I looked for another job. There was a company called Neve-Zuf (in the settlement of the same name), which looked for people with exactly the professional background, which I had. I sent them my resume (by FAX, which both the company and me had, even at that barbarian era). Mr. Droi from Neve-Zuf liked my resume, and asked to phone-screen me. Since I am deaf, he suggested that my wife mediate between us. But I refused this because my wife at the time was hard-of-hearing and was not familiar with the professional terminology, and might misunderstand some critical phrases to my detriment. I was willing to go to the company for an extra interview in lieu of the phone screening. But he refused this. I sent him a FAX message complaining about the discriminatory behavior which he exhibited. He denied whatever happened. I was never interviewed there, and it is not known to this day whether I would have been qualified for a job in Neve-Zuf or not. So this was a classical discrimination situation. At the time there were no anti-discrimination laws, so my only recurse was to give the story the widest possible publicity. I wonder if the company still exists. I certainly do exist. :-) --- Omer WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT]: The secret of JOB WANTED is out
Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the record I also got to the same conclusion Ouch. I don't think it was intentional, but yes, even an old workhorse like Gilad can screw up and hit reply without checking the headers. I think he did not intend to send that to the list. The secret is out. Ira, Gilad, Muli, and myself are among linux-il subscribers that have recently left one and the same (rather rich and quite able to pay reasonable salaries) company after brief (a few months for GBY, Mulix, and me) employment. Please don't ask me, on or off the list, about the reasons why. The above is an easily verifiable and even difficult to conceal fact. All the rest is between each of us separately and the (still current for me and Muli - we asked for and got our notices) employer, and I, for one, would like to keep my loyalty - and silence - to the end. No comment, once and for all. The other members of the gang will decide for themselves. Suffice it to say that as far as I know the reasons for all of us were quite similar bordering on identical. We have discussed this among ourselves, but each came to his own personal decision. We are all adults, and not very susceptible to outside influences ones at that. This is as much information as I am willing to release to the public. If a potential employer starts insisting during a job interview, I will consider saying more, as long as it does not contradict my contractual obligations. Thanks for understanding, and sorry for the OT [technically, if not professionally in the wider sense] postings - I thought an explanatory summary was in order. Let's cut the thread. -- Oleg Goldshmidt | [EMAIL PROTECTED] First binary search algorithm - J. Mauchly, 1946 First correct binary search algorithm - D.H.Lehmer, 1960 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TAU's response to the complaint about one of the faculties website
Hi Alexander, see the response of that faculty's webmaster below. bye, --Ariel --- Alexander, I must say that I absolutely agree with you on most of the issues you've raised. The website has to be W3C compliant and all documents should be non-platform specific. As I've been here only about a month now, I'm working on a new website as we speak and hope to get at least some of it in the air before the school year starts. However, you are a bit uninformed with regards to office documents. There are ways to _view_ word docs in linux, see: http:// www.varlinux.org/article/writing/technical/howtos/linux-word-survival.html Additionally, I will make sure all future documents issued by the secretaries will be in RTF format. If you would like to do some compliancy QA to the new website when it's up, just tell me. A little working / not working response on specific code would do. Thanks for your comments, No'am. *** No'am Peled IT Unit, Faculty of Life Sciences Tel Aviv University Tel: +972(3)6407494 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TAU's response to the complaint about one of the faculties website
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002, Ariel Biener wrote about TAU's response to the complaint about one of the faculties website: Hi Alexander, see the response of that faculty's webmaster below. ... Additionally, I will make sure all future documents issued by the secretaries will be in RTF format. Is viewing RTF really easier than viewing DOC on Linux? I can view DOC files on a text terminal using antiword (and bidiv to switch the Hebrew around, if applicable); How can I view RTF files? -- Nadav Har'El|Wednesday, Oct 9 2002, 3 Heshvan 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |Someone offered you a cute little quote http://nadav.harel.org.il |for your signature? JUST SAY NO! = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TAU's response to the complaint about one of the faculties website
Hi, That's very nice, thank you. One thing, however: However, you are a bit uninformed with regards to office documents. There are ways to _view_ word docs in linux, see: http:// www.varlinux.org/article/writing/technical/howtos/linux-word-survival.html That page returns a 404. Also, I'm aware that OpenOffice and AbiWord support (to an extent) the Word doc format, but neither currently displays Hebrew properly. Perhaps the latest OO build will - I haven't tried it yet. Alexander Maryanovsky. At 22:09 08.10.2002 +0200, Ariel Biener wrote: Hi Alexander, see the response of that faculty's webmaster below. bye, --Ariel --- Alexander, I must say that I absolutely agree with you on most of the issues you've raised. The website has to be W3C compliant and all documents should be non-platform specific. As I've been here only about a month now, I'm working on a new website as we speak and hope to get at least some of it in the air before the school year starts. However, you are a bit uninformed with regards to office documents. There are ways to _view_ word docs in linux, see: http:// www.varlinux.org/article/writing/technical/howtos/linux-word-survival.html Additionally, I will make sure all future documents issued by the secretaries will be in RTF format. If you would like to do some compliancy QA to the new website when it's up, just tell me. A little working / not working response on specific code would do. Thanks for your comments, No'am. *** No'am Peled IT Unit, Faculty of Life Sciences Tel Aviv University Tel: +972(3)6407494 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Server for sale
On 9/29/2002 2:03 PM, Sagi Bashari wrote: Hi First, I'm not sure that posting such message to this list is acceptable, but since some people from here asked me about it I'll take the risk. Sorry if I bother anyone. I have 1U server for sale. I used it for a while as a server for my home LAN, but recently I decided that it's too noisy and I prefer to replace it with a regular PC (those servers have 5 fans!) I'm not sure how much exactly it's worth so I put it on a public auction on Walla bay: http://bay.walla.co.il/ts.cgi?path=379id=102954 Worth to mention that the server runs Linux without any problems. Again, Sorry if I bothered anyone with this message. Just a quick followup. This is even more offtopic than the original message but I have no other way to contact the people, sorry. After posting this to the list I got several bids on this auction. They looked very strange because they came 2-3 minutes after each other and the price went up to the sky. I suspect that someone has been faking bids and now after the auction is over the winner is not responding to my mails. For anyone who's considering using bay.walla.co.il I just wanted to warn you that as far as I see the service is just another public service and anyone can simply register multiple accounts and bid anything that he wants, even if he does not intend to pay. He doesn't even have to fill his phone number. Walla is not responding any of my emails , too. So please, if any of the bidders is from this list, or IF anyone is still interested in buying this (ignore the price on the auction, the price is negotiable) please contact me (privately, make sure you're not replying to the list - I generated enough offtopic noise already). Sagi = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
