Re: Processing time spent in IRQ handling and what to do about it

2007-12-20 Thread Oded Arbel

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 09:58 +0200, Dotan Shavit wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 December 2007, Oded Arbel wrote:
  I can see that a lot of time is spent in the hard-IRQ region - sometimes
  more then all other regions together.
 
 Lets look for more hints...
 
 - Anything interesting in the logs (during boot and after) ? 
 - Lets plug out all the hardware you can: network , USB, disks...
 - rmmod all the modules you can.
 - Boot with a different kernel version.
 - Nothing yet? Lets play with the BIOS...

The logs do not show anything that I don't understand or that I can
relate to this problem, and none of the other options are possible as
this is a production machine.

On a duplicate machine that runs mysql replicated from the first, and
doesn't have any load, stopping the mysqld caused the load to fall to
almost 0. There were very few hardware interrupts after that (as evident
from /proc/interrupts) but there isn't any load so I don't know.

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Re: Processing time spent in IRQ handling and what to do about it

2007-12-20 Thread Oded Arbel

On Wed, 2007-12-19 at 10:34 +0200, Aviv Greenberg wrote:
 Can you send an output of cat /proc/interrupts ? Is there any device
 sharing the IRQ line with the network interface?

On Tue, 2007-12-18 at 22:14 +0200, Oron Peled wrote: 
 6. Why guess?
   watch -n10 -d cat /proc/interrupts


/proc/interrupts looks like this:

  CPU0   CPU1   CPU2   CPU3
  0: 2818676796 3045096095 2597715597 3039460137   IO-APIC-edge timer
  1:  0  2  0  0   IO-APIC-edge i8042
  9:  0  0  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi
 12:  0  1  1  2   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
 14:6144547  861135937042  85048   IO-APIC-edge  libata
 15:  0  0  0  0   IO-APIC-edge  libata
 16:  1  0  0  1   IO-APIC-fasteoi
uhci_hcd:usb1, ehci_hcd:usb6
 17:234 13197 11   IO-APIC-fasteoi
uhci_hcd:usb2
 18:  0  0  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi
uhci_hcd:usb3
 19:  0  0  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi
uhci_hcd:usb4
 22: 24 24 25 23   IO-APIC-fasteoi
uhci_hcd:usb5
2289:  426764360 12  153890890   25567190   PCI-MSI-edge eth1
2290:  184062475   14352363 1146094937   36605794   PCI-MSI-edge eth0
2292:  253368176   26799612  221976501   20082294   PCI-MSI-edge cciss0
NMI:  0  0  0  0
LOC: 2910906978 2910907454 2910906845 2910907935

I haven't calculated diffs exactly yet, but on first glance it looks
like eth0 interrupts are happening at about 150 a second while cciss0
interrupts are happening at about 20 per second. Also eth0 interrupts
happen almost exclusively on one CPI (currently 2 at the moment) and
cciss happen on two CPUs (0 and 2). I'm not sure what's up with CPU1 and
3 - is it possible that because these are the 2nd cores on each chip
that they don't get as many interrupts ? isn't 'irqbalance' supposed to
do something about it ?

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missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread shlomo solomon
I have a strange problem. When I try to login with any user, except
for root, I get an error message saying that the userś home directory
doesn´t  exist. I verified that this is NOT true. All home directories
seem to be intact. I GOOGLED and found a suggestion that /etc/passwd
could, for some reason, not include the names of the home directories.
I verified that /etc/passwd is OK.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Since I can get into my system (I don´t want to run as root), I´m
sending this from a different system via gmail, so please CC replies
to my Gmail account.


Shlomo Solomon


Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread Ori Idan
It seems as if for some reason the /home partition was not mounted when you
tried to log it.

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On Dec 20, 2007 9:52 PM, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a strange problem. When I try to login with any user, except
 for root, I get an error message saying that the userś home directory
 doesn´t  exist. I verified that this is NOT true. All home directories
 seem to be intact. I GOOGLED and found a suggestion that /etc/passwd
 could, for some reason, not include the names of the home directories.
 I verified that /etc/passwd is OK.

 Does anyone have any suggestions?

 Since I can get into my system (I don´t want to run as root), I´m
 sending this from a different system via gmail, so please CC replies
 to my Gmail account.


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Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread Alon Altman
Check the permissions on /home and /home/user. The user must have +x on
/home and +rx on /home/user. Try to su to the user and check if you can
access its home directory.

On 12/20/07, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a strange problem. When I try to login with any user, except
 for root, I get an error message saying that the userś home directory
 doesn´t  exist. I verified that this is NOT true. All home directories
 seem to be intact. I GOOGLED and found a suggestion that /etc/passwd
 could, for some reason, not include the names of the home directories.
 I verified that /etc/passwd is OK.

 Does anyone have any suggestions?

 Since I can get into my system (I don´t want to run as root), I´m
 sending this from a different system via gmail, so please CC replies
 to my Gmail account.


 Shlomo Solomon



Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread shlomo solomon
No, as I already wrote, all the home directories are OK. I should have
specifically written that when I login as root, I can cd to them all.

I also tried creating a new user and after verifying that the new user
AND home directory were created, I couldn login as the new user
either.

I have some additional information, but I don´t know what to do about
it..  BTW, I don´t know if this is significant, but notice that the
timestamp in the log abrubtly jumps back and forth 2 hours. I checked
and saw a log entry that ntpd was disabled, but that also seems to be
only partialy true, because later on the time jumped back to what it
should be.

tail -300 syslog | grep kdm

Dec 20 22:09:17 shlomo1 kdm_config[4076]: Invalid option value 'All'
at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:52
Dec 20 22:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Can't update authorization file
in home dir /home/solomon
Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Can't create authorization file in /tmp
Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Cannot chdir to solomon's home
/home/solomon: Permission denied, using /
Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Cannot create fallback session
log file /tmp/xerr-solomon-:0: Permission denied
Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Session /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
execution failed: Permission denied
Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Failsafe client
/usr/bin/xterm execution failed: Permission denied
Dec 20 22:09:41 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4116]: Can't update authorization file
in home dir /home/solomon
Dec 20 22:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Can't update authorization file
in home dir /home/solomon
Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Can't create authorization file in /tmp
Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Cannot chdir to solomon's home
/home/solomon: Permission denied, using /
Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Cannot create fallback session
log file /tmp/xerr-solomon-:0: Permission denied
Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Session /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
execution failed: Permission denied
Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Failsafe client
/usr/bin/xterm execution failed: Permission denied
Dec 20 22:18:44 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4924]: Can't update authorization file
in home dir /home/solomon


On Dec 20, 2007 10:03 PM, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems as if for some reason the /home partition was not mounted when you
 tried to log it.

 --
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 On Dec 20, 2007 9:52 PM, shlomo solomon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a strange problem. When I try to login with any user, except
  for root, I get an error message saying that the userś home directory
  doesn´t  exist. I verified that this is NOT true. All home directories
  seem to be intact. I GOOGLED and found a suggestion that /etc/passwd
  could, for some reason, not include the names of the home directories.
  I verified that /etc/passwd is OK.
 
  Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
  Since I can get into my system (I don´t want to run as root), I´m
  sending this from a different system via gmail, so please CC replies
  to my Gmail account.
 
 
  Shlomo Solomon
 



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Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread shlomo solomon
On Dec 20, 2007 10:36 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Check the permissions on /home and /home/user. The user must have +x on
 /home and +rx on /home/user. Try to su to the user and check if you can
 access its home directory.

Already tried that - permissons are correct.

As far as su, when logged in as root, any attemp to su to another user
gets an error message. I´m not sure, but I think the error reffered to
insufficient permission. I´ll have to check what was  the exact error
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Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread Alon Altman
Even if you can cd to the directories as root does not mean that you can
read/write there as user. Please supply the output of ls -la /home (as
root).

  Alon

On 12/20/07, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, as I already wrote, all the home directories are OK. I should have
 specifically written that when I login as root, I can cd to them all.

 I also tried creating a new user and after verifying that the new user
 AND home directory were created, I couldn login as the new user
 either.

 I have some additional information, but I don´t know what to do about
 it..  BTW, I don´t know if this is significant, but notice that the
 timestamp in the log abrubtly jumps back and forth 2 hours. I checked
 and saw a log entry that ntpd was disabled, but that also seems to be
 only partialy true, because later on the time jumped back to what it
 should be.

 tail -300 syslog | grep kdm

 Dec 20 22:09:17 shlomo1 kdm_config[4076]: Invalid option value 'All'
 at /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc:52
 Dec 20 22:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Can't update authorization file
 in home dir /home/solomon
 Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Can't create authorization file in
 /tmp
 Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Cannot chdir to solomon's home
 /home/solomon: Permission denied, using /
 Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Cannot create fallback session
 log file /tmp/xerr-solomon-:0: Permission denied
 Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Session /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
 execution failed: Permission denied
 Dec 20 20:09:39 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4823]: Failsafe client
 /usr/bin/xterm execution failed: Permission denied
 Dec 20 22:09:41 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4116]: Can't update authorization file
 in home dir /home/solomon
 Dec 20 22:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Can't update authorization file
 in home dir /home/solomon
 Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Can't create authorization file in
 /tmp
 Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Cannot chdir to solomon's home
 /home/solomon: Permission denied, using /
 Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Cannot create fallback session
 log file /tmp/xerr-solomon-:0: Permission denied
 Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Session /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession
 execution failed: Permission denied
 Dec 20 20:18:42 shlomo1 kdm: :0[6222]: Failsafe client
 /usr/bin/xterm execution failed: Permission denied
 Dec 20 22:18:44 shlomo1 kdm: :0[4924]: Can't update authorization file
 in home dir /home/solomon


 On Dec 20, 2007 10:03 PM, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It seems as if for some reason the /home partition was not mounted when
 you
  tried to log it.
 
  --
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  On Dec 20, 2007 9:52 PM, shlomo solomon  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   I have a strange problem. When I try to login with any user, except
   for root, I get an error message saying that the userś home directory
   doesn´t  exist. I verified that this is NOT true. All home directories
   seem to be intact. I GOOGLED and found a suggestion that /etc/passwd
   could, for some reason, not include the names of the home directories.
   I verified that /etc/passwd is OK.
  
   Does anyone have any suggestions?
  
   Since I can get into my system (I don´t want to run as root), I´m
   sending this from a different system via gmail, so please CC replies
   to my Gmail account.
  
  
   Shlomo Solomon
  
 
 
 
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Re: Processing time spent in IRQ handling and what to do about it

2007-12-20 Thread Oron Peled
On Thursday, 20 בDecember 2007, Oded Arbel wrote:
 I haven't calculated diffs exactly yet, but on first glance it looks
 like eth0 interrupts are happening at about 150 a second while cciss0
 interrupts are happening at about 20 per second.

Well, ~150 interrupts/seconds is very low interrupt rate and
should not cause a significant load *unless* they are doing
a heavy work in each interrupt.

[as a reference, on a specific device family I work, we use
 a *minimum* of 1000 interrupts/second even on very low-end
 hosts. When we connect several devices on a bit stonger hosts
 (single cpu) we normally get around ~4000 interrupts/second]

I still tend to suspect the disk controller although its
interrupt rate is really low. Maybe you can test this (run
some I/O bound process like 'find /' and see if it affects
on the hardware interrupts load in top.

If all else fails, than you may want to start using oprofile.

Hope it helps,

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Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread shlomo solomon
On Dec 20, 2007 11:01 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Even if you can cd to the directories as root does not mean that you can
 read/write there as user. Please supply the output of ls -la /home (as
 root).

   Alon


At the moment, I´m using a rescue partition on the same box. So I
mounted the home partition as /-home. The result of ls -la should
be the same as what I get on the real system. BTW - since I´ve only
got user solomon set up, all the other users appear only as id 501,
502 etc. But I can assure you that on the real system, they all appear
with the proper names.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -la /-home
total 8
drwxr-xr-x 13 rootroot 304 Dec 20 22:19 ./
drwxr-xr-x 38 rootroot1000 Dec 20 22:29 ../
drwxr-xr-x  3 506 506  224 Nov 27  2006 kids/
drwxr-xr-x  3 507 507  224 Jul  8 21:10 mypublic/
drwxr-xr-x 29 501 501 1272 May 26  2007 shlomo/
drwxr-xr-x  6 502 502  352 Jun 21 18:21 shoshana/
drwxr-xr-x 90 solomon solomon 6608 Dec 20 20:55 solomon/
drwxr-xr-x  3 508 508  224 Dec 20 22:19 test1/
drwxr-xr-x  5 503 503  304 Jan  5  2007 yael/
drwxr-xr-x  3 505 505  224 Nov 27  2006 yael-yishai/
drwxr-xr-x  3 504 504  224 Nov 27  2006 yishai/
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yjobs.co.il-for-Mozilla Filter

2007-12-20 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi all!

Well, this is also a way to make sites compatible with Firefox and other 
Mozilla-based browsers. :-)

If you are job hunting and want to use http://www.yjobs.co.il/ and would 
prefer to use Firefox, then look no further than:

http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/projects/yjobs-on-mozilla/

Download and read the instructions at the top. Open-sourced under the MIT-X11 
licence, but the script contains some JavaScript code that appeared on 
yjobs.co.il and was modified.

Happy Job Hunting!

Regards,

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Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread Alon Altman
Another reason kde could fail to write is lack of disk space. Is /home full
or close to full?

  Alon

On 12/20/07, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 20, 2007 11:01 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Even if you can cd to the directories as root does not mean that you can
  read/write there as user. Please supply the output of ls -la /home (as
  root).
 
Alon


 At the moment, I´m using a rescue partition on the same box. So I
 mounted the home partition as /-home. The result of ls -la should
 be the same as what I get on the real system. BTW - since I´ve only
 got user solomon set up, all the other users appear only as id 501,
 502 etc. But I can assure you that on the real system, they all appear
 with the proper names.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -la /-home
 total 8
 drwxr-xr-x 13 rootroot 304 Dec 20 22:19 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 38 rootroot1000 Dec 20 22:29 ../
 drwxr-xr-x  3 506 506  224 Nov 27  2006 kids/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 507 507  224 Jul  8 21:10 mypublic/
 drwxr-xr-x 29 501 501 1272 May 26  2007 shlomo/
 drwxr-xr-x  6 502 502  352 Jun 21 18:21 shoshana/
 drwxr-xr-x 90 solomon solomon 6608 Dec 20 20:55 solomon/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 508 508  224 Dec 20 22:19 test1/
 drwxr-xr-x  5 503 503  304 Jan  5  2007 yael/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 505 505  224 Nov 27  2006 yael-yishai/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 504 504  224 Nov 27  2006 yishai/
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Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread Alon Altman
On 12/20/07, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Dec 20, 2007 11:01 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Even if you can cd to the directories as root does not mean that you can
  read/write there as user. Please supply the output of ls -la /home (as
  root).
 
Alon


 At the moment, I´m using a rescue partition on the same box. So I
 mounted the home partition as /-home. The result of ls -la should
 be the same as what I get on the real system. BTW - since I´ve only
 got user solomon set up, all the other users appear only as id 501,
 502 etc. But I can assure you that on the real system, they all appear
 with the proper names.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ls -la /-home
 total 8
 drwxr-xr-x 13 rootroot 304 Dec 20 22:19 ./
 drwxr-xr-x 38 rootroot1000 Dec 20 22:29 ../
 drwxr-xr-x  3 506 506  224 Nov 27  2006 kids/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 507 507  224 Jul  8 21:10 mypublic/
 drwxr-xr-x 29 501 501 1272 May 26  2007 shlomo/
 drwxr-xr-x  6 502 502  352 Jun 21 18:21 shoshana/
 drwxr-xr-x 90 solomon solomon 6608 Dec 20 20:55 solomon/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 508 508  224 Dec 20 22:19 test1/
 drwxr-xr-x  5 503 503  304 Jan  5  2007 yael/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 505 505  224 Nov 27  2006 yael-yishai/
 drwxr-xr-x  3 504 504  224 Nov 27  2006 yishai/
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Re: yjobs.co.il-for-Mozilla Filter

2007-12-20 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 20/12/2007, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all!

 Well, this is also a way to make sites compatible with Firefox and other
 Mozilla-based browsers. :-)

 If you are job hunting and want to use http://www.yjobs.co.il/ and would
 prefer to use Firefox, then look no further than:

 http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/projects/yjobs-on-mozilla/

 Download and read the instructions at the top. Open-sourced under the MIT-X11
 licence, but the script contains some JavaScript code that appeared on
 yjobs.co.il and was modified.

 Happy Job Hunting!

 Regards,

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And don't forget to write to the owners of these sites and to tell
them that they need to support Firefox. If anyone will send to me the
address of a non-compatible site and details of the error, I'll gladly
confirm the error and write to the webmaster.

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Re: Processing time spent in IRQ handling and what to do about it

2007-12-20 Thread Constantine Shulyupin
And my word to this never ending story:

You may use  get_cycles
(http://lxr.linux.no/linux/include/asm-i386/tsc.h#L19) to measure time
(cycles) in interrupts.
Read more here: http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/ldd3/linuxdrive3-CHP-7-SECT-1.html


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Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread shlomo solomon
On Dec 20, 2007 11:36 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another reason kde could fail to write is lack of disk space. Is /home full
 or close to full?

No - over 20 Gb free on /home.

BTW - itś not a KDE problem. I can login from a console (Ctl-Alt-1) either.


Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread shlomo solomon
On Dec 20, 2007 11:50 PM, shlomo solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 20, 2007 11:36 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Another reason kde could fail to write is lack of disk space. Is /home full
  or close to full?

 No - over 20 Gb free on /home.

 BTW - itś not a KDE problem. I can login from a console (Ctl-Alt-1) either.

OOPS - a typo - that should be:
BTW - itś not a KDE problem. I can´t login from a console (Ctl-Alt-1) either.


Re: missing /home

2007-12-20 Thread Omer Zak
When checking for free disk space, check also inodes (by df -i).
According to past experience, when a partition runs out of inodes,
sometimes the system manages to continue to work and erratically fail
(when processes need to create new files without deleting others
beforehand).

Another shot in the dark:  which filesystem are you using on home -
ext2, ext3, reiserfs, ... ?
 --- Omer

On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 23:50 +0200, shlomo solomon wrote:
 On Dec 20, 2007 11:36 PM, Alon Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Another reason kde could fail to write is lack of disk space. Is /home full
  or close to full?
 
 No - over 20 Gb free on /home.
 
 BTW - it¶ not a KDE problem. I can login from a console (Ctl-Alt-1) either.
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boot messages

2007-12-20 Thread shlomo solomon
When I boot, I see hundreds of messages flying off the screen faster
than I can read them - some of them error messages. Alot, BUT NOT ALL,
of the messages can be seen with dmesg, but there are many messages
that I can´t see there or in the logs (unless, of course there are
additional logs I haven´t checked). This is probably related to my
previous, unsolved issue aboout not being able to login, because I´m
pretty sure that in the past I didn´t see error messages during boot.

Can anyone suggest how to slow down the messages and/or capture them
into a file I can see after booting.

In case I didn mention it earlier, my system is Mandriva 2007.0 with
all upgrades..

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