from:"Steve G."

I am able to see it with chrome, not sure what version but I update to the
latest one when Ubuntu asks me to.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il wrote:

 Hi,

 I am using Google Chrome version 23.0.1271.64-r165188 on Ubuntu 12.04.

 I am trying to watch the following video:

 http://actv.haifa.ac.il/programs/Item.aspx?it=1004

 Any of you able to watch it, or do you get the No supported plugin error
 I am getting?

 I have the ugly extras installed...

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Re: Android phone question

Got myself a Galaxy Mini (was going to get Pocket, but Mini was discounted
in Bug for Black Monday, Cyber Friday, or some such holiday).

Does all I need, more, quite well. Screen not ideal size, but frankly, the
latest iPhones and Galaxy models are getting too big to be used as phones,
and are too small to be used as computers.

Thanks for all the advice. Now to move to Golan Telecom, before the special
offer expires...

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Re: Haifa University Video on Linux?

Tell me how to find out and I will.

I have Totem and VLC installed, but that's probably not the stuff embedded
in browsers.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il wrote:

 Can anyone tell mi what codec is in use?

 It is probably a missing package...



 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am able to see it with chrome, not sure what version but I update to
 the latest one when Ubuntu asks me to.

 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.ilwrote:

 Hi,

 I am using Google Chrome version 23.0.1271.64-r165188 on Ubuntu 12.04.

 I am trying to watch the following video:

 http://actv.haifa.ac.il/programs/Item.aspx?it=1004

 Any of you able to watch it, or do you get the No supported plugin
 error I am getting?

 I have the ugly extras installed...

 Thanks!
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Re: Haifa University Video on Linux?

I am getting an explicit error message - Express Install is not supported
on this operating system. To upgrade, please visit: Flash Player Download
Center. which links to Adobe flashplayer page.

There I get the following message: Your Google Chrome browser already
includes Adobe® Flash® Player built-in. Google Chrome will automatically
update when new versions of Flash Player are available.

So there you are. Maybe VLC would load it as a site? No it does not.

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Guy Gold guy1g...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.ilwrote:

 I guess it was VLC. It wasn't installed and when installing, it installed
 a bunch of dependencies with codecs...


 Amichai, I'm glad you were able to find a solution, I'll use your post to
 publish my problem,
 The IBA's (Rashut Hashidur) Kol Hamusika , can be listened to , online,
 here:
 http://kolhamusica.iba.org.il/
 However, I'm not able to get that page to work (Debian / Iceweasel or
 Epiphany) ,
 I am able to listen to the station using mediating websites (which also
 degrade the bit-rate) , Can anyone make it work on their system ? or is
 the IBA using MS silverlight ?

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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-15 Thread Steve G.

Checked out prices, and the Galaxy 2 (2300 shekel) is a bit much.

What is the consensus regarding Galaxy S5300 Pocket? Runs Gingerbread
(Android 2.3) according to the specs (
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_pocket_s5300-4612.php), seems to
have a GPS, and priced somewhere between 1/3 and 1/4 of the 2?

I think it only works with Golan and Orange, but that is not a problem.

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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-15 Thread Steve G.

Glad to hear your experience.  Can't bring myself to spend on the phone
twice as much and then some of my netbook...

The screen is small, but I hope it won't affect the sound quality. If your
daughter likes it, it probably has nice texting features, which might be
good, as a lot of times I can't talk but CAN text and email... So maybe I
should try it in a store and see how tiny is the virtual keyboard.

Thanks,

Z.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:13 AM, ronys ro...@gmx.net wrote:

 Bought this for my daughter a few weeks ago, when the spec I had was the
 cheapest phone possible that can run whatsapp. She's* **very* happy with
 it (also installed some other apps, of course, but no hacking - yet). To my
 old eyes, the screen's a bit small, but hey, that's just me.

 R.


 On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:

 Checked out prices, and the Galaxy 2 (2300 shekel) is a bit much.

 What is the consensus regarding Galaxy S5300 Pocket? Runs Gingerbread
 (Android 2.3) according to the specs (
 http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_pocket_s5300-4612.php), seems to
 have a GPS, and priced somewhere between 1/3 and 1/4 of the 2?

 I think it only works with Golan and Orange, but that is not a problem.

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Android phone question

2012-11-12 Thread Steve G.

Only marginally Linux related.

I recently returned for a long stay and quickly realized my phone does not
speak Hebrew - SMS is reduced to numbers, commas and periods. Well, it was
not a smart phone to begin with, and the culture shock just killed it.

So I am thinking switching my Orange number to a new phone, perhaps an
older model (cheaper, that's why - I don't want a phone that would make my
laptop jealous). I won't do apple, as they are too restrictive in what they
let me do. I may do minor app development - I am not a coder, but still
would like to be able to share waypoints from the GPS through an online
database with other people, so I may write something that can do that, in a
few years... Or play with other easy things to code, perhaps.

I hear Samsung Galaxy 2 is good, but I don't know if it has a GPS or
whether programming for it is the same as for the later models (can it take
the latest dessert-OS from Google?) - any better suggestions?

Any recommended calling plan (remember, the 054 number probably limits me
to Orange)? Any way to do it without breaking the bank?

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Re: Android phone question

2012-11-12 Thread Steve G.

Thanks, all! It definitely helped.

Now you mention it, I do remember a couple of years ago changing the law
was in the news, but then the visit ended and I forgot the consequences...

So where do I get a good deal on a (new?) Galaxy II phone? Do I look for it
at the provider's, or is it better to find one at one of the small phone
stores?

If I want to play with programming the phone - installing an app, not
changing the OS - do I risk bricking the phone, or is there a sandbox for
dummies to play with? Do I need a special toolkit?

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Re: where to host web server

2012-10-21 Thread Steve G.

1. Where do I go to produce meth? Any such public domain labs in Haifa? Tel
Aviv?

2. Joking aside, there have been cases (in the US) where chemists in
industry and academe have produced drugs (predates meth) for commercial
purposes.

3. Regardless, there is a difference between getting an experience in
programming and hosting a live web site. A student can create lots of
stuff, including services, which as long as they reside on the internal
network are not a risk, while opening them to outside use can create a
problem.

Easiest example - a server with poor password. If you are in the intranet,
and someone hacks into it and runs a DDOS on a local server, the admin will
shut the offending server down and that's the end of it. Ditto for an error
that creates infinite processing or broadcast loops. Do it to the outside
world, and you'll have the authorities at your door.

A second example - unauthorized content. Host kiddy porn on your internal
account, and you'll be suspended (or your account closed till it is
secured). Have an external hacker serving same from your university server,
and you - and your institution and amin - will have to account to Interpol.

You get my drift - some things are better left outside, where
responsibility is the student's and the ISP's and not the Technion.

Z.

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:59 AM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote:

 On Sun, Oct 21, 2012, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote about Re: where to host
 web server:
  This will also not blacklist the Technion with regards to other mail
  servers, and enable error-free monitoring of wild SMTP servers (viral
 ones).

 Next thing you know, the Technion's chemistry department will close down
 its labs, since students can use them to produce meth... If a student
 wants to actually do a chemistry experiment, he can rent a table in
 a nearby chemistry-lab-for-hire, and do it there.

 People come to the Technion to learn. To learn, you need to be allowed
 to experiment. If certain students choose to experiment with illegal
 things, let them be caught - but don't ban all experimentation.

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Re: printer

2012-09-19 Thread Steve G.

Get a laser printer, HP and Brother are Linux friendly, but check available
models online. I have used both with Linux.

Not sure about Israel, in the US you pay for the ink more than for the
printer. Especially if you don't use it much, it dries and dies anyway. And
the printer is not programmed to run without all the cartridges in working
order.

Z.

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 Which multifunctional printer for home (SOHO) would you recommend to
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 Which store network?

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Re: [HAIFUX LECTURE] The Resource-as-a-Service (RaaS) Cloud -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda

2012-09-03 Thread Steve G.

Could not attend, for geographical reasons - by chance, is the lecture
repeated anywhere else in the coming few weeks?

Also, was there going to be a lecture about open source hardware? I vaguely
recall something like that on previous announcement.

Thanks,

Z.

On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote:

 On Monday, September 3rd at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by
 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda:

The Resource-as-a-Service (RaaS) Cloud

 Abstract

 Over the next few years, a new model of buying and selling cloud computing
 resources will evolve. Instead of providers exclusively selling
 server-equivalent virtual machines for relatively long periods of time (as
 done in today's IaaS clouds), they will increasingly sell individual
 resources (such as CPU, memory, and I/O resources) for a few seconds at a
 time. We term this nascent economic model of cloud computing the
 Resource-as-a-Service (RaaS) cloud, and we argue that its rise is the
 likely culmination of recent trends in the construction of IaaS clouds and
 of the economic forces operating on both providers and clients.

 The paper appeared in HotCloud 2012. Joint work with Muli Ben-Yehuda,
 Assaf Schuster and Dan Tsafrir. The theoretical talk will be followed by a
 code walk-through of patch to memcached which makes it an application that
 can use the benefits of the RaaS cloud, which is joint work with Eyal
 Posener.

 ==**==**=

 We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see:
 http://www.haifux.org/where.**html http://www.haifux.org/where.html

 Attendance is free, and you are all invited!

 ==**==**==
 Future lectures:

 24/09/12 What more can industry learn from open source?: Yael
  Vaya-Talmor
 15/10/12 Adding Colors to Kademlia: Gil Einziger
 29/10/12 Israeli Digital Rights NPO: Zvi Devir


 ==**==**==

 We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to
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Problems with yad2

2012-07-29 Thread Steve G.

Not sure it is a linux or unix problem, but I am experiencing it on a linux
desktop.

When I try to reach http://www.yad2.co.il/ (I am outside Israel), using
either chrome or firefox on ubuntu 12.04, I get an error Error 101
(net::ERR_CONNECTION_RESET): The connection was reset.

The same problems happen also with safari on OSX.

As I do not have a windows machine handy right now, I wonder if this is
something that has to do with explorer/windows, or maybe it is location
related.

Any ideas, anyone?

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Fwd: Problems with yad2

2012-07-29 Thread Steve G.

Oops, forgot the group...

-- Forwarded message --
From: Steve G. word...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: Problems with yad2
To: Tomer Cohen to...@gmx.net

wget gives a similar problem. However, by going to the single free Israeli
proxy I could find on the net, I am getting the pages, albeit as slow as a
turtle crawling in molasses...

Thanks!

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Tomer Cohen to...@gmx.net wrote:

 As this is a redirection loop, I'd suggest using command-line tools such
 as curl and wget to deeply investigate the issue. It could be that they
 don't pay attention to HTTP requests from outside Israel and thous are not
 aware of this issue at all.

 On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:

  Not sure it is a linux or unix problem, but I am experiencing it on a
 linux desktop.

 When I try to reach http://www.yad2.co.il/ (I am outside Israel), using
 either chrome or firefox on ubuntu 12.04, I get an error Error 101
 (net::ERR_CONNECTION_RESET): The connection was reset.

 The same problems happen also with safari on OSX.

 As I do not have a windows machine handy right now, I wonder if this is
 something that has to do with explorer/windows, or maybe it is location
 related.

 Any ideas, anyone?

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Scientific computing and a tangentially related question

2012-06-12 Thread Steve G.

Hi everyone.

I have two questions for members of the group.

1. Is there any coordinated development of statistical analysis tools that
are OSS and run on Linux? For example, the R programming language and its
application to applied fields such as social statistics or epidemiology? I
am looking for an OSS solution similar to SPSS (user friendly), Stata or
SAS (powerful), or Design Expert (specific to experimental design).

2. Are there any Masters Programs in Israel in the fields of applied
statistics (biostatistics, epidemiology, medical statistics, social
statistics, actuarial sciences or demographics)? I am more interested in
the sciences (that is the first 3 on the list), and if I can find a good
program that would take a scientist (that is, not a mathematician of CS
major) and train him at a reasonable cost, I will be the happiest man alive
for about 5 minutes.

If you know where, how, when, how much, etc., let me know, via my email or
the group.

Thanks,

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Fixing problem with new kernel

2012-03-28 Thread Steve G.

I upgraded to the latest kernel (on Ubuntu, 3.0.0.17), and ran into
problems. The computer never got into graphic mode, and the screen got
stuck on part of the initialization process.

The computer was running, and was reachable from another machine by ssh,
but I could not run it from the keyboard and screen attached to it.

To resolve it, I edited /etc/default/grub and
changed #GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 to GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1, which allows me to select an
older kernel. I suspect the problem is with the Nvidia driver for my
graphic card, but I am not sure.

Questions:

1. How do I isolate the problem?

2. How do I repair it once I do (I know it depends on the problem, so there
may not be an answer yet, but then again, maybe there is a mechanism to
edit the boot process as a way to troubleshoot).

3. Why does my computer works fine with 3.0.0.16, but not 3.0.0.17?

Thanks,

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Re: Fixing problem with new kernel

2012-03-28 Thread Steve G.

1. Ubuntu provides the Nvidia drivers as an optional download. I no longer
remember the details, but there is a place to activate proprietary
components, third party free commercial products (Adobe reader is one, I
think) and also programs that conflict with patented technologies (such as
media players and decoders).

Obviously the driver is installed, but there are issues and some interfaces
do not work well (e.g. Unity freezes, and now the new kernel sticks).

2. Where do I change the runlevel for booting?

3. How do I check if the problem is with the driver? dmesg? any other
places?

Thanks!

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 2012/3/28 Steve G. word...@gmail.com

 I upgraded to the latest kernel (on Ubuntu, 3.0.0.17), and ran into
 problems. The computer never got into graphic mode, and the screen got
 stuck on part of the initialization process.

 The computer was running, and was reachable from another machine by ssh,
 but I could not run it from the keyboard and screen attached to it.

 To resolve it, I edited /etc/default/grub and
 changed #GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 to GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1, which allows me to select an
 older kernel. I suspect the problem is with the Nvidia driver for my
 graphic card, but I am not sure.


 Wild guess: download nvidia's driver from their website and compile it for
 the new kernel? It's pretty easy once you've read their docs.

 I do not know if Ubuntu package the driver or how well they track
 dependencies. Note that nvidia drivers are not GPL-licensed, so the distro
 itself may not provide it easily. This does not mean that it is not
 available as a package - hopefully some Ubuntu user here points you to the
 right place and saves you a compilation. If not - Google.

 I reiterate: the above is a wild guess.

 One other idea - switch inittab to runlevel 3 (without graphics) and try
 booting the old kernel - if it boots fine then the problem *is*, most
 likely, your video driver.

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iRiver Story HD and Hebrew

2012-02-29 Thread Steve G.

Does anyone have an experience with the iRiver Cover Story or Story HD
readers?

In particular,

1. is it compatible with Linux to add/remove books/music?

2. can it read Hebrew?

3. can it be loaded up with a linux distribution, instead of the firmware?

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Ubuntu for mobile phones

2012-02-23 Thread Steve G.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/23/ubuntu-crests-new-wave-mobile-computing

General review of market and value proposition, plus links
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QtQt printing question - html to pdf

2011-11-02 Thread Steve G.

As a follow up to previous question - I am using Meir's script from
http://whatsup.org.il/article/6412 - which has hard coded A4 paper size.

Since my documents are for the Kindle, with screen size of 9 cm x 12.2 cm,
I tried replacing it with B7 (8.8 x 12.5), but the slight discrepancy in
length results in the last line cut up in the middle, so I want to use
paper size : custom. Alas, I can't find any example of where I stick my
'custom' dimensions and in what format. The code calls
for printer.setPageSize(QPrinter.B7 or A4 in the original)

Anyone has any experience in using QPrinter page size funtcion with custom
page size? How do I list the width and length? This is the variable from
trolltech's web site:  enum *PageSize* { A0, A1, A2, A3, ..., *Custom**)*

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Re: QtQt printing question - html to pdf

2011-11-02 Thread Steve G.

I want to read it on the Kindle 2. There is a problem in displaying Hebrew
characters in the usual formats - .mobi, .txt, azw (awz?), etc. - I can
view a PDF document on the Kindle and an external html pages (there is no
way that I know of to view html files stored in the Kindle - they are not
presented in the menu of available documents.

The problem with PDF is that if the page size is too large, say A4, it is
very unpleasant to read it on a 6 inch screen. It requires using the
Kindle's mouse button (5-way arrows) to scan each line, or use a magnifying
lens.

Since I want to read the darn thing on the Kindle, not from my web server,
I want to convert the documents to PDF, with a page size that is slightly
smaller than B7.

Calibre seems to convert to the right size, but I do not know how to
automate it yet. Meir's script works, and I can run it from a script that
would open and convert each file, if I can get the size right. Wkhtmltopdf
gives me boxes between letters, indicating missing fonts.

Z.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote:

 On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 07:58:14AM -0600, Steve G. wrote:
  As a follow up to previous question - I am using Meir's script from
  http://whatsup.org.il/article/6412 - which has hard coded A4 paper size.
 
  Since my documents are for the Kindle, with screen size of 9 cm x 12.2
 cm,

 Why do you want PDFs? Don't you prefer an output format that is more
 portable with regards to the screen size? Have you considered ePub?

 And let's take one step backwards: can't you just take a tarball of
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Converting multiple html files to pdf files

2011-10-29 Thread Steve G.

Happy Halloween!

I have a large number of .htm files (text in English, Spanish or Hebrew
with punctuation marks) which I want to convert to .pdf or PDF files, so I
can read them on the Kindle.

I know how to do it manually - I open them in a browser, select Print-Print
to file - PDF, give a name and print. But as I have several hundred files,
it is not practical.

1. Is there a more automated, preferably command line, to take each file,
and convert it to from filename.htm to filename.pdf, while keeping the file
name?

2. Is there a way to control the output of the pdf file, so that the font
size is adequate for the kindle (I do not have specs, so I will use trial
and error), which has a small screen with a 600x800 resolution?

For the record, I tried a program called wkhtmltopdf (static version), and
it works, but sticks rectangles  between letters rather often. Printing
from Firefox to PDF works, but is a manual process. Considering I have
hundreds of files, it is impractical.

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Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Steve G.

Either way, I am not going to participate in anything that lends credence to
FSF. Quite frankly, at least  MS are not openly anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic,
or anti 'the bad Jews/Israeli'.

Let someone more credible start a petition, and I will surely sign.

F-FSF.

Z.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:13 AM, geoffrey mendelson 
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Oct 24, 2011, at 3:03 PM, geoffrey mendelson wrote:


 On Oct 24, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Nadav Har'El wrote:

 I obviously don't agree with any of these statements, but it's sad that
 apparently this is what people think (or at least, search in Google...).

 Anyway, most of the results of my intended query appear to be Israeli or
 Jewish sources. It doesn't appear like the whole world had any interest
 in this affair... I wonder if most free software activists are even aware
 of
 it.



 ROTFL. The vagaries of using google. I put in richard stallman boycott
 israel and 3,420 results.

 They are aware. Very aware.



 BTW, richard stallman israel boycott yields 42,600 results.


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Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Steve G.

Shlomi,

1. Thank you for the education

2. I am not trying to negate the validity of their argument (or for that
matter to support it). I am saying that I will have nothing to do with them,
their drives, their server, and any of their software that is not already
provisioned by my distro, unless I can't live with it.

And quite frankly, I don't care whether the FSF and RMS are one and the same
or not. Until they kick the piece of waste out, they should go sell their
stuff somewhere else.

There are plenty of other organizations to support.

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Re: FSF Campaign against Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot

2011-10-24 Thread Steve G.

I thought I got the joke, but was not sure if it was Monty Python, so thanks
for clarifying.

Now a technical question - wouldn't we still be able to run Linux as a
virtual machine under windows? So what's the big deal? Practically all
laptops today, and most desktops, come with some flavor of windows. All one
needs to do is use a VMM from Oracle, MS, VmWare, Citrix/XEN, Parallels,
etc. and  use it to run Linux! It may reduce performance a little, but quite
frankly, today's computers are so over-specified for their usage (do I
really need a 3 core CPU to browse the net? most of what I do is i/o and
networking, not computation).

So I can have my cake, and Microsoft can have theirs too. The only possible
impact is that selection of Linux compatible machines would be limited to
those manufactured with Linux in mind, so I would probably have to pay more
instead of getting whatever is on sale. On the positive side, though, unlike
all my discounted hardware, these would work under Linux right off the bat,
instead of a year later (yes, finally my Toshiba can use the earphones under
Linux, not just the tinny speakers, as was the case till now! On the other
hand, Unity 3D still hard freezes my computer, or at least my Xserver on
every machine I tested...)

Let the flames begin.

Z.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote:

 On Mon, Oct 24, 2011, Tzafrir Cohen wrote about Re: FSF Campaign against
 Microsoft's Plan to Enforce Secure Boot:
   There are plenty of other organizations to support.
 
  People's Front of Judea is one.

 No way, I hate them! I support the Judean People's Front!

 (If someone doesn't understand the joke, you haven't seen the movie
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Re: Find Free Software a New Voice

2011-10-08 Thread Steve G.

Maybe we should start a Facebook group to get rid  of RMS, an open source
Arab Spring or Social Justice movement...

Unfortunately being an idiot is not against the law.

2011/10/8 Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com


 http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterprise/2011/10/why-fsf-founder-richard-stallm.php

 It's time for free software to find a new voice. Once again, Free Software
 Foundation founder Richard Stallman is putting his feet firmly in his mouth.
 This time, Stallman says that he's glad Steve Jobs is 
 gonehttp://stallman.org/archives/2011-jul-oct.html#06_October_2011_%28Steve_Jobs%29.


 It's no secret that RMS and Steve Jobs held firmly opposed views when it
 comes to software freedom. I didn't expect Stallman to hold a vigil at an
 Apple store for Jobs, or even to say much of anything at all. But his
 ill-considered response does nothing for the cause of free software, and
 actually does a lot of damage.

 Stallman and the Free Software Foundation, have long expressed a very
 public dislike for Apple and Jobs. They've conducted campaigns against the
 iPad http://www.defectivebydesign.org/ipad and Stallman has a history of
 speaking out about the iPhone and other closed devices. Though I've often
 disagreed with the tone and language of Stallman's commentary on closed
 devices, he makes good points about software freedom. But his latest,
 posthumous, attack on Jobs demonstrates that Stallman has no business being
 spokesperson of anything ... (follow link for the full text)

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Hebrew eBook reader

2011-09-23 Thread Steve G.

I showed my Kindle to an Israeli friend who is legally blind and he got very
excited, especially about the voice to text functionality.

Unfortunately, his English is not very strong, and the Kindle does not
handle Hebrew well as text, let alone text to voice.

Does the Hebrew eBook reader (I think it was mentioned here as Evrit, from
Stimazky) performed voice to text in Hebrew? Any other suggestions for a
reader that can handle Hebrew text AND voice to text?

Thanks, and Happy Holidays

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Re: Linux is ready for the desktop!

2011-09-16 Thread Steve G.

Great post, and some agreement here, too. Now to some contrarianism.

1. Not to start a distro war, but Ubuntu comes with GUI to install all these
things, and I do believe PPPoe is easy to set up, though most people use a
modem between them and the internet, which allows them to use the current
setting or instructions from Bezeq, or whoever else, with tech support and
maybe even a technician's visit.

2. IMHO Linux has been ready for the desktop for a long time, especially
with a limited requirement set such as you describe, which is fine for most
newbies. There were two issues holding it back. The first was people who
needed to have MS compatibility for whatever reason (we use
office/exchange/powerpoint at work and I must be able to edit it at home).
The other was the fear of needing something in the future that would be only
available on Windows.

What changed are the move to browser based/app based computing, and the fact
that MacOS, iOS, Android and Chrome, plus Linux netbooks, reduced these
fears. And it helps that 1/3 of all laptops sold these days are Macs, which
break the Windows monopoly.

3. As someone who has installed Linux on every computer he ever both owned
and used, I can tell you that installing Linux is a bit of a crap shoot. I
have a desktop that crashes whenever I login with the latest ubuntu UI (I
changed the setting for myself but have some other users which I set for
family members and never changed), and a laptop that only runs sound in
Linux on the speakers, but not the earphones. Skype is so hoarse and
echo-filled on my desktop that I prefer to use another machine. The ONLY
computer without any problems is an Acer netbook, until you try to run
GPSMan (tcl/tk based) and realize that the screen resolution on the netbook
is not compatible with the UI, and some buttons are no longer available to
you...

That is, if you want to enjoy all that Linux has to offer, you can't use off
the shelf equipment without checking components and hoping for the best.

Wishing your mother in law all the best with her Linux usage.

Z.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.ilwrote:

 For years, people have been saying that Linux might be good for this, and
 good for that (and the list of this and that has been growing every
 year) -
 but Linux is *NOT* ready for the desktop and ordinary newbie users.

 Well, for the first time ever, I believe the situation has changed.
 Linux *IS* ready for the desktop!

 I have just installed a new Linux computer for my mother-in-law.
 She is the quintessential newbie - she knows hardly nothing about
 computers,
 doesn't want to know much about computers, and only wants to use her
 computer
 for a limited set of tasks, such as:

1. Browse the web (mostly specific sites, e.g., her bank).
2. Read and write email (using gmail).
3. Make video calls over skype.
4. Conveniently view photos of the grandkids (e.g, with Picasa).
5. Play children movies for the grandkids.
6. Bonus points: If I could control her computer remotely, fixing
   problems and sending new photos, movies, etc., without being
 there.

 I have good news, and bad news.

 The good news is that, as I said, I believe Linux *is* ready for the
 desktop.
 I was able to build for her a Linux setup that does all of the above, and
 more,
 she was very pleased with the result. Interestingly, she found the Gnome
 3
 interface very usable and understandable, despite what some pessimists have
 been saying about it recently. Perhaps Gnome 3 does show promise after all.

 There is some bad news, however: NEVER suggest to anyone but a Linux expert
 to install Linux on their own - in my case Fedora 15 (but please don't
 start
 a distro war). After I installed Fedora 15 on her new computer, I had to
 spend over 10 hours (!!) configuring it to be usable as I wanted. In
 particular, I enjoyed the following activities:

 1. I had to install all sort of allegedly illegal software which doesn't
 come
   with Fedora, but is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for any modern user. This
 includes
   mp3 playing and video playing with various codecs.
   I didn't find Fedora's pretense that this software was somehow optional
 to
   be comforting.

 2. I had to install various free-as-in-beer but not free-as-in-speech
 software
   that doesn't come with Fedora, like Skype, Picasa, and Flash Player
 plugin.
   Because these programs aren't built specifically for Fedora, they don't
   fit into it very well. In some cases (e.g., Picasa) I needed some dirty
   tricks to get it to work at all.

 3. I had to set up ADSL. It turns out that in 2011, the pppoe package still
   doesn't come preinstalled, and when you do install it and set up ADSL,
 you
   discover that NetworkManager has a bug that prevents it from starting the
   connection during boot. I spent more than an hour to circumvent this bug.

 4. I had to enable Hebrew - but just a bit (she's an English-speaker,

Jewish Nanny-Cam

2011-09-12 Thread Steve G.

I want to install a security camera, to keep a remote eye on what goes on in
a house when I am away, i.e. a 'nanny-cam'.

I have a very old dell, which is currently running the latest ubuntu, and
may still have windows xp installed on it as well. It does not have wifi,
but can be connected to the dsl modem with a long cable, or I can get a
dongle.

Could someone recommend a security system that would allow me to keep an eye
on the place from the US or Central America? Is there a system that I can
connect wirelessly to the DSL modem, which will broadcast its name or ip
address for access (without a membership in a for-fee service)? If not what
hardware/software do you recommend for ubuntu (preferably) or windows xp
that can accomplish the same through the computer?

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Re: Beyond Stallman

2011-07-18 Thread Steve G.

What is this, nominations for FOSS person of the year?

We should be encouraging all of these, and MadDog Hall and everyone else to
come visit and lecture. If for nothing else, then for encouraging free
speech and thwarting boycott effort by enemies of Israel.

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Re: total uptime between shutdowns

2011-07-04 Thread Steve G.

What package does it come in - procps, rwho or both?

2011/7/4 Tom Rosenfeld trosenf...@gmail.com


 Thanks I'll give it a try when I have some time to play.



 2011/7/4 Ricardo F ri...@hotmail.com

  Hello,

You can use tuptime http://sourceforge.net/projects/tuptime/ it
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Re: Hebrew fonts on digital readers

2011-07-03 Thread Steve G.

FWIW, this is not the same discussion as far as I am concerned.

The previous discussion was about what reader is best for Hebrew book. This
one is about how to read Hebrew on a Kindle 2. I am not going to buy eVrit,
nor any book with DRM on it, if I can help it.

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 11:01 PM, geoffrey mendelson 
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Didn't we this discussion a couple of months ago? From what I can see
 nothing has changed. I think in the end the person asking bought an eVrit,
 which is really a PanDigital Memo with Hebrew support and Steimatzky DRM
 built in.

 Are they still 900 NIS?

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Accelerating a server

2011-06-28 Thread Steve G.

I have a server that is sometimes sluggish. While I suspect the main problem
is DNS and routing issues with my provider's infrastructure, in particular
responding to DNS requests and routing, I am not sure. So here are some
questions to the server experts on the team:

1. How do I identify the bottleneck in server performance? Is the problem
with my networking card, CPU, memory, HD I/O, or the networking
infrastructure outside the home.

2. Is there a tool for monitoring or testing load and performance without
disabling or slowing down the server for long periods of time? I use
Linux/Apache/PHP (no MySQL at this time, since I disabled WordPress due to
all the fracking comment spam I was having to manually delete), but I am
also interested in tools to do the same in Windows.

3. If I had to do one thing to improve my hardware, which should it be?
RAID? SD drive? Faster CPU? 32 to 64 bus? More/Faster memory? Obviously cost
is a consideration.

4. Is there any general advice on improving performance by removing
background programs, etc.?

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Hebrew fonts on digital readers

2011-06-25 Thread Steve G.

I tried converting a text document containing Hebrew and Spanish to the
Kindle format. The Spanish was readable, but the Hebrew was junk. Although I
can read html in Hebrew on the Kindle, it does not let me read html
documents that are stored locally. I contacted Amazon, and was informed that
Hebrew is not currently supported on the Kindle, though they may be working
on it. I can convert the document to pdf, which I CAN read on the Kindle,
but then I can't use a dictionary for the Spanish, which is my goal in
transferring the document.

My question is: is there another digital reader (sony, barnes and noble,
borders, whoever), which can handle Hebrew charset? I am NOT talking about
iPad or a similar devices, as they are much too expensive, and of course any
netbook and up can read the documents in multiple formats.

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Re: Hebrew fonts on digital readers

2011-06-25 Thread Steve G.

I am using the Kindle 2, but it looks like this is doable.

Could you be more specific on doing it? I prefer to just install the font
(which one do I use for Hebrew?) and not a web server. Do I have to use the
python update script, or is it possible to copy a few file to my Kindle?

It is not that easy for me to get a new one where I am, so I'd rather not
brick the device...

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Matan Ziv-Av ma...@svgalib.org wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Steve G. wrote:

I tried converting a text document containing Hebrew and Spanish to the
Kindle format. The Spanish was readable, but the Hebrew was junk. Although I
can read html in Hebrew on the Kindle, it does not let me read html
documents that are stored locally. I contacted Amazon, and was informed that
Hebrew is not currently supported on the Kindle, though they may be working
on it. I can convert the document to pdf, which I CAN read on the Kindle,
but then I can't use a dictionary for the Spanish, which is my goal in
transferring the document. My question is: is there another digital reader
(sony, barnes and noble, borders, whoever), which can handle Hebrew charset?
I am NOT talking about iPad or a similar devices, as they are much too
expensive, and of course any netbook and up can read the documents in
multiple formats.

You can change the fonts on the kindle[1], so if that is the only problem
with the hebrew, you can use the kindle reader.

The browser indeed refuses browsing file://, so you can install a local
httpd[2] to browse local files.

You can install fbreader[3] which has some form of hebrew support, and is
in general a better reader software than the kindle reader.

[1]
http://www.mobileread.com/**forums/showthread.php?t=88004http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88004
[2]
http://www.mobileread.com/**forums/showthread.php?t=126128http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126128
[3]
http://www.mobileread.com/**forums/showthread.php?t=10737http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10737

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Re: An alternative to Skype

Maybe, but that is my choice. I am not yet abandoning open source, or
course, but will from now on try to be more diverse.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Baruch Even bar...@ev-en.org wrote:


 On Jun 10, 2011 8:53 PM, Steve G. word...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  If you want computer to computer, there are plenty of chat clients that
 would work - Jabber, msn, aol, yahoo, I think all have voice and video
 communications in them. Gmail is another excellent system. The problem is
 the network effect - both sides must be part of the system.

 
  To make phone calls, other than skype there is ekiga and probably some
 other things, as well as gmail, but these are not free.
 
  Personally, whatever RMS puts on his web site, is what I will NOT be
 using in the future. Even if it means I have to buy MS OS, though
 considering that practically all laptop computers have MS on them, I doubt
 it would be an issue.
 
  I have been a devout proponent of OSS solutions for many years, but there
 is something to be said for for-profit software - you are not dependent on
 RMS and his likes. A real company supports its product regardless of
 politics.
 
  Go Proprietary Software!
 

 Actually, any commercial company is more than likely to drop you on the
 floor like an hot potato at the mere sniff of trouble to them.

 But it seems like your response was more about childish revenge than real
 attempt to think things through.

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Re: An alternative to Skype

I am neither planning nor recommending to boycott GNU or FSF. I also drive
German and Japanese cars.

I AM planning to maintain alternatives to them - that is, while my attitude
in the past was to find ways to use open source solutions even if it meant,
often, spending days fixing bugs and glitches (using third party patches or
instructions), I am now going to use MS or Apple solutions instead.
Specifically, I will use Skype, VMWare and VirtualBox on Win7, iTunes on
Win7/OS-X, etc. instead of compiling every other week on Linux.

When it comes to advocacy, when in the past I was advocating a move to OSS
products, in the future I would advocate for using products that can work
with both MS and Linux, or using heterogeneous systems.

As far as I am concerned, OSS is no longer future-proof, and has to be only
a of my product mix, not the only one.

Z.

PS to the idiots who respond to others' views with 'nobody cares what you
do', nobody gives a hoot what you do or think either (I am not talking about
my personal not giving a shit - the world does not really care about 15
geeks arguing about the merits of open source compilers, which language is
better perl or ada, or a bunch of things where the opinions are distinctions
without a difference).



2011/6/12 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net

 2011/6/12 Udi Finkelstein linux...@udif.com

 The number of free software packages where RMS is involved, or even was
 ever involved, is very small compared to the whole open software universe.
 Even if you decide to boycott the entire GNU projectyou stll have tons of
 free software that is not FSF-related.


 I disagree. Richard Stallman in the founder of the GNU project and the GPL.
 About half of all open source software is licenses as GPL. The Linux
 operating system with all its distributions, GCC complier and many other
 open source software exist because of Richard Stallman's contributions. I
 don't recommend anyone to boycott GNU or the FSF.

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Re: An alternative to Skype

1. You can't say RMS is not a leading voice of free software. Then there is
mint. Then there are others.

2. The advantage of diversity is that if MS drops skype, and there is a
market need, they would come up with an alternative. And if not, there is
always Apple, Oracle, or another business that will gladly jump in. Not
forgetting OSS solutions, if any.

3. The problem is VMware and VirtualBox on Ubuntu, not the OS. Vmware links
directly to version dependent libraries (even if the number, not the
library, changes one has to recompile). VB has not been working well for me.

4. There are advantages - in addition to price - to OSS products. There are
also advantages to capital-driven-products, be they somewhat open (MS
partner driven approach) or more closed (Apple controlled approach).

5. If one considers OSS a religion, their Gods have just lost some of their
shine.

On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:

 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 09:19:55AM -0600, Steve G. wrote:
  I am neither planning nor recommending to boycott GNU or FSF. I also
 drive
  German and Japanese cars.
 
  I AM planning to maintain alternatives to them - that is, while my
 attitude
  in the past was to find ways to use open source solutions even if it
 meant,
  often, spending days fixing bugs and glitches (using third party patches
 or
  instructions), I am now going to use MS or Apple solutions instead.
  Specifically, I will use Skype, VMWare and VirtualBox on Win7, iTunes on
  Win7/OS-X, etc. instead of compiling every other week on Linux.

 Hmm... diversity. How nice.

 So when VirtualBox gets abandoned by Oracle, or Skype gets abandoned by
 Microsoft, where will you move to?

 Or when OpenOffice.org gets abandoned by Oracle, where will you move to?
 Hmm, maybe LibreOffice?

 If you don't want compiling every week, stop using Gentoo (or LFS, or
 whatever) and move to a distro that uses some less GCC CPU time.

 
  When it comes to advocacy, when in the past I was advocating a move to
 OSS
  products, in the future I would advocate for using products that can work
  with both MS and Linux, or using heterogeneous systems.
 
  As far as I am concerned, OSS is no longer future-proof, and has to be
 only
  a of my product mix, not the only one.

 Hmmm... that's rich.

 RMS says a few words and all of a sudden the whole Free Software
 shutters? Kindly explain your logic to us.

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Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?

I do not think what he is doing is necessary illegal, especially since he
leaves open the option of a 'bidding war', where someone else pays his
expenses, but the way he handled this issue is very clumsy and unfortunate.
As I had said before, he should have checked with his sponsor before
offering to talk, and also when he found out he could not talk in Israel, he
should have left the details out and just cited scheduling conflicts or
another white lie.

Z.

2011/6/12 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net

 On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 22:35, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote:

 My guess is that the anti-boycott law has nothing to do with FSF or any
 other voluntary organization (like what is called amutah in Hebrew),
 which is what I understand FSF to be.


 As far as I know, there is a law in the USA that prevents people and
 organizations from boycotting Israel. They are not allowed to refuse to do
 business with Israel or Israeli organizations or individuals
 (orgranizations means all kinds of organizations). If the FSF refuses to
 do business with Israelis, this may be illegal. But Richard Stallman doesn't
 have to speak in Israeli universities - it is his right to choose where to
 speak and where not to speak. If they refuse to do business - for example,
 sell software - with Israelis then it may be illegal according to USA laws.

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Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?

2011-06-10 Thread Steve G.

I think RMS does not have any intention of speaking, and is the OSS/FSF?GNU
version of what is known as a cock-tease, though he seems more like a plain
schmuck from a distance.

He should not speak, nor even visit Israel. He should support freedom of
expression in the west bank and Gaza by staying there.

Personally, maybe each one of us should send the poor guy a nickel.

Z.

2011/6/10 Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com

 After Dr. Richard M. Stallman (RMS) cancelled his lecture at the University
 of Haifa I tried to arrange an alternative meeting hall for him. Like some
 other people I thought that all that was required was not an Israeli
 university or perhaps not a prominent symbol of the state.

 Yesterday (9-Jun-11) RMS sent me a response which indicates that there is
 an even bigger problem. According to him, the Palestinians' boycott is so
 strict that they object to [him giving lectures hosted by] all organizations
 except those that support the boycott.

 My opinion is that under such circumstances RMS should refuse to speak, or
 at least have a sudden and unavoidable scheduling conflict which
 necessitates cancelling his visit.

 If this really is the situation then I will not be searching for lecture
 halls for him and will not be attending his lectures either.

 Tom

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 From: Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org
 Date: Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 17:58
 Subject: Re: Fwd: A Lecture Hall for a Talk by Dr. Richard Stallman,
 President of the Free Software Foundation
 To: Tom Balazs tom123onl...@gmail.com
 Cc: rms-ass...@gnu.org


Our theater is very busy during the month of June, and the date you had
mentioned wouldwnt work.

 My visit is in July, not June.  Maybe that was misunderstanding.

 However, it seems that the Palestinians' boycott is so strict that
 they object to all organizations except those that support the boycott.
 I don't know whether they object if such an organization rents a hall.

So I must charge the minimum cost of 750 N.I.S  in order to be able to
operate the Theater.

 How many dollars is that?
 I have no idea whether I have this much in my pocket.

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Re: An alternative to Skype

2011-06-10 Thread Steve G.

If you want computer to computer, there are plenty of chat clients that
would work - Jabber, msn, aol, yahoo, I think all have voice and video
communications in them. Gmail is another excellent system. The problem is
the network effect - both sides must be part of the system.

To make phone calls, other than skype there is ekiga and probably some other
things, as well as gmail, but these are not free.

Personally, whatever RMS puts on his web site, is what I will NOT be using
in the future. Even if it means I have to buy MS OS, though considering that
practically all laptop computers have MS on them, I doubt it would be an
issue.

I have been a devout proponent of OSS solutions for many years, but there is
something to be said for for-profit software - you are not dependent on RMS
and his likes. A real company supports its product regardless of politics.

Go Proprietary Software!

Z.

CC to RMS.


2011/6/10 Evyatar Parker evp55...@gmail.com

 there are many alternatives, like XMPP. if you need
 skype compatibility though there is less choice: mainly you can use imo.im.
 There is also a plugin for Miranda IM (FOSS) that uses imo.im as a skype
 proxy.


 2011/6/10 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il

 By logging in to their site, you can reactivate your credits.

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 2011/6/10 Uri Even-Chen u...@speedy.net

 Hi people,

 I saw Richard Stallman's signature:
   Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software.
   Use free telephony http://directory.fsf.org/category/tel/

 I'm using Skype to communicate with my friends. I mostly use it for
 instant messaging (not phone calls). I did use it for phone calls in the
 past, but I don't have a microphone attached to my computer - so today I use
 regular phone (018). When I used Skype for phone calls, I paid Skype for
 Skype out credit, but Skype zeroed my credit after a few months of not
 using their service - which I consider stealing money from me. For all that
 reasons, I don't want to use Skype. But Skype is a monopoly - all my friends
 use it. Even my grandmother wants to start using it. What free alternatives
 are there to Skype? (free as in freedom of course).

 By the way, what do you think about Google talk? I use Google talk from
 my Gmail account (I didn't download the software).

 I'm using Windows XP on PC. And Google Chrome as my browser.

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Re: RMS, Hosts Must Support Boycott?

2011-06-10 Thread Steve G.

I am not worried about his opinion, but his support of a boycott of Israel,
and the fact that I have to rely on him for support of products I use.

As far as I am concerned, my present view (after RMS and Mint) is that OSS
is something to support as long as there is a commercial alternative. If in
the past I was hoping to see MS and other commercial vendors marginalized, I
now think they should continue to be the leading solution providers, and OSS
should be used alongside, with the caveat that it is not reliable and future
proof. OSS is only one of many options to weigh and use.

Z.





On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Marc Volovic marcvolo...@me.com wrote:

 [a whole pile of claptrap, including previously written and quoted
 claptrap, snipped]


 People, RMS (as well as any other person) is entitled to support, adhere,
 acquiesce or abhor, deny, etc any and all BDS activities.

 (Some of) Your moral outrage is not a whit less ridiculous that agreement.

 The man is entitled to his opinion and choice. It is his right as a man and
 as a public figure.

 Those of you gnashing your teeth - please open YouTube and type פלדרמאוס
 באולימפיאדה.

 Enough!


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Re: MS buys Skype - will it support Linux

2011-05-10 Thread Steve G.

Unless they radically changed, their main goal is to force people to use
their OS and Office suit, so the support for any other platform would be
weak at best.

What reliable alternative can one use for VOIP and phone in Linux? Including
land line and cellular calls for low cost. I remember Ekiga, but do not
think it ever got too far off the ground, and last time I tried google voice
was not that great under linux either.

Z.

2011/5/10 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com

 In case this haven't hit your newspad yet:
 http://blogs.skype.com/en/2011/05/microsoft_will_acquire_skype.html

 Any ideas on what it implies for none-Windows platform support?

 I guess they aren't daft enough to just drop it but would they shuffle
 their feet even more when working on none-Windows platforms (as if they
 aren't far enough behind already)?

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Re: Linux has won!

2011-04-03 Thread Steve G.

FWIW, I have machines running dual win7/ubuntu. I use windows for one thing
only - managing podcasts on iPads with iTunes (seems that Apple has Windows
software, but not Linux (maybe this is how they repay Windows for the
investment when Apple was going down the drain a few years ago).

For my needs, Windows is not worth the trouble. Virus checks, spyware
checks, daily updates that can sometimes take hours, it is slower to start
and shut down, slower in performance, and while it does not crash as often
as XP and NT and 2000 used to, it is not as stable as Ubuntu. The only
advantage it does seem to have is hardware compatibility.

So I have it in use 5 minutes every couple of days, and the rest is pure
Linux.

Z.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Stan Goodman stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote:

 On Sunday, April 03, 2011 04:48:02 PM Ariel Biener Ariel Biener
 ar...@post.tau.ac.il wrote:
  As a desktop platform, Linux has not won, and that was what
  your colleague was referring to. The fact Linux is embedded
  into many devices, and that some of them even present a UI
  to you is not irrelevant, Linux is indeed a platform that is uniquely
  adept for these devices (both in terms of stability, development and
  most probably in terms of licensing), however, he meant his desktop
  OS, and we're not there yet.

 To emphasize the above, recall that there was a time when most of the
 ATMs in the United States were running OS/2, and many (including myself)
 fell into the trap of concluding that OS/2 had a bright future for that
 reason, Somehow things didn't quite work out that way.

 Linux has made good inroads inside devices where the proverbial Jake
 the Plumber doesn't see it and doesn't know it is there. Windows, on
 the other hand is literally the only OS he has ever seen or heard of.

 When you are tempted to think that we are there, spare a thought for
 OS/2, and think again.
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Re: Linux has won!

2011-04-03 Thread Steve G.

One machine is a netbook, and is barely usable as it is...

The other could handle a VM, but I have never had any luck installing
Windows into a VM. Using windows as my main OS is too painful - always some
crap to take care of, not worth the hassle.

Finally, vmware requires recompiling any time the kernel changes, and
virtualbox on my other linux box was a resource hog. This new one may be
better, as it does have the right hardware to natively support VMs, but I
have not tried it yet.

Z.

On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Elazar Leibovich elaz...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/4/3 Steve G. word...@gmail.com


 So I have it in use 5 minutes every couple of days, and the rest is pure
 Linux.


 Why don't you use a virtual machine. I think some of them can redirect USB
 from host to virtual system.


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Re: Android compilation time

2011-02-28 Thread Steve G.

That is one fast phone...Too bad you can't carry it in your pockets, you
might drop a few cores.

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.bizwrote:


 Doesn't this also depend on how many cores you have available?

  - yba

 That was the whole point. It's a machine with 24 cores, 48GB of ram and a
 fast Raid array.


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Help with script

2011-02-24 Thread Steve G.

I am looking for someone to mentor me, help me, or work with me on the
following, non-marketable project. This is NOT a job offer, but a request
for help. If any money comes out of the project, I will gladly share it with
people who help me, but I doubt anything will.

So here is a description of what I want to accomplish:

Many years ago, I resolved to read the bible (old testament) in its
entirety, in Hebrew/Spanish. I purchased a dual language bible, La Biblia,
and start the journey. The goal was to learn Spanish, and also become
acquainted with the old text, only bits and pieces of which are taught in
any school, even a religious one.

Carrying a bilingual bible is literally a heavy burden, scares away the
chicks and everyone else except fundamentalists and weirdos, which did not
help. I got stuck somewhere in the second book when too many names stumped
me. I still read a page now and then, but at this rate it will take me 543
years to finish.

Fast forward 20 years, we now have a tool perfect for reading one line at a
time - the new Kindle! So I am thinking why not create an electronic version
of the same document - 2 bilingual
bibles, Hebrew-Spanish and Spanish-Hebrew, verse by verse. Maybe even with
punctuation marks, though that is not a necessity.

I can find copyright free web pages. In Spanish I can get the whole bible as
a single file. In Hebrew most sites are arranged book by book, but that is
fairly easy to combine into a single file manually. I would like to write a
script, preferably in python, that would read the files, parse them into a
series of sentences, and recombine them as a bilingual file, one verse
following the other. Hebrew/Spanish and Spanish/Hebrew.

I am not a programmer, but I can probably create a script with guidance.
Working with a knowledgeable individual would eliminate enough of the
learning curve for me to make it a reality. If I were to do it from scratch,
it will be so low on my priorities list that it would take years to get to
it. If we get this done, I would post it somewhere as a freely available
document, of course.

As for the commercial part - if we get this text processed, I will
considering offering it as a Kindle book on Amazon, and also maybe
converting it to PDF. As far as I know there is nothing like that on the
market, though someone is selling dual language bibles in English and a
number of other languages on Amazon.

Anyone interested in helping with the project, please let me know.

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Re: Update: eVrit e-book Reader

2011-02-17 Thread Steve G.

Re PDF files, I can give you my experience using kindle, but it should apply
equally to all readers with a 6 screen.

It works if you are young and have eagle eyes, or the book is specially
formatted with very large letters and small page size. Otherwise, it looks
like insect dropping on the page. It is possible to increase the size up to
300% and also rotate the image, which makes the individual words eminently
readable, but now you have to navigate sideways with a 5-way button that is
not really designed to do that, but rather to move between menu
items occasionally.

In other words, it is a useless experience for a good portion of the books.
Scanned images collections are even worse.

You could in theory use calibre to convert. It works well for text and maybe
inline images (which suffer from the same problems as pdf pages, either you
lose detail or you have to see the image as a series of overlapping
rectangular pieces), but it messes up tables, lists and everything that is
written in more than one column per page. The content is converted out of
order.

Z.

2011/2/17 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il

 I didn't mention this because I wasn't at home when I wrote the post, but I
 am using Calibre with the e-vrit.

 The version on the Ubuntu 10.04 was too old and didn't detect the reader. I
 added a PPA (PM me to get the details) and upgraded it to version 0.7.44.
 Now it detects the reader as a bq Avant and it works perfectly!

 If I choose to move a file to the device, it converts it on the fly to epub
 and copies it to either the Main memory or the card (both apear on the top.

 PDF files are hard to convert. Now that it finds my device, I'll try again
 and let you know.

 Thanks for the Sci-Fi referral. I'll appreciate more URLs for free e-book
 downloads.

 Amichai.

 On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 15:33, geoffrey mendelson 
 geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Feb 17, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:

  Hi all,

 Terrible for photos / pictures. Too dark, no colors and slow. The books'
 covers and in-book diagrams and line art look great!

 User Experience:

 As I mentioned, I am very happy with the device. It is very light and
 under the right lighting conditions it is very clear and fun to read from.
 Using it under the sun was even better than under florescent light.
 I downloaded a sample book from the Barns  Noble site (what they call a
 'NookBook) and transfered it to the device directly (an .epub file) - and
 begun reading immediately! no DRM, no conversion - out of the download! I
 called their Customer Support (voice - I needed to hear it) and asked if it
 is because it's a sample. the representative said the sample is technically
 the same as the full book!

 Over the course of the last three years I've read very few books, mostly
 technical books by the computer, but since I've bought this device I have
 read more than 70 pages of a Hebrew thriller, and a few pages of some
 technical books and got the epub version of a 1500 page book I was wondering
 how to carry around with me...

 Conclusion:

 Very good buy for those of you who need the Hebrew support. Not very
 expensive. No dual display. No color display - but perfect for reading
 books!


 What does it do with full page scans of books (jpeg images as PDF files)?
 The nook displays them full screen, with no rotate, zoom or contrast
 adjustment (makes reading colored ones difficult), the Kindle 3 (but not the
 original nor 2) has those adjustments. I have several thousand electronics
 and other technical books like that.

 You may also want to look at Calibre, it's an open source manager for
 eBooks, which includes format conversions, etc. It's available for Linux,
 Windows and Mac and supports the Kindle, nook, iPad and many other readers.
 If it does not support the eVrit directly, you can still use it to organize
 your library and do format conversions.

 If you are looking for modern Sci-Fi, Baen books has a free downloadable
 library. They have also issued free CDs of books (and in some cases entire
 series) that are not available on line from them, but you can download them
 via bit torrent and directly online.

 For the books:

 http://www.baen.com/library/

 For the CDs:

 http://baencd.thefifthimperium.com/

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Re: Amazon Kindel

2011-02-03 Thread Steve G.

There is a reason the Amazon is the market leader. From all I could read, it
has the clearest screen, a long battery life, and is faster with less
glitches than the competition. I also think there are more books available
for it then for other format. Of course, I have only tried the Kindle, so I
can't say how other fare in comparison.

You can convert any PDF document using Calibre or another free (I think)
program for windows, which provide .mobi documents. But this works better
for fiction, as it does not do tables and detailed images justice (unlike
text). You can also read PDF on it, but the screen size makes it a less than
pleasant experience.

As long as you stick to text, the Kindle is your best friend. Battery lasts
for weeks, size is small, it reads well in moderate to strong light, and it
does not cost that much. The only thing for some of the other readers is
that they can be hacked, since they run Android.

My 2 cents.

Z.

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 12:46 PM, guy keren c...@actcom.co.il wrote:

 On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 20:30 +0200, Amichai Rotman wrote:
  Hello all,
 
 
  Any of you got the Amazon Kindel?

 
  I was thinking of buying one (the WiFi $140 model) and was wondering
  if it's a good idea.
 
  The eVrit reader seems to be total waste of money - 900 NIS for 50% of
  the features and power...
 
 
  I'd appreciate your input.

 i considered this a few month back - and then i checked for availability
 of books in genres i like to read - and was surprised by the very small
 availability of such books (i checked based on authors that i like
 reading and a few specific books i want to read).

 i then checked barnes and nobles' book reader - and it has a much wider
 choice of books in these genres.

 so if i were to buy one - i'd go for the bn reader. if only they had a
 version with a bigger screen (i'm afraid a 6 display is a bit small -
 if anyone has this reader and could show me how it really looks - that
 will be great) - i would already have bought it.

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Re: osm sw for n900 ?

2010-12-25 Thread Steve G.

Which OS?

For Linux, a quick search shows josm and merkaator. I found them in Ubuntu's
synaptic and software center.

2010/12/24 Erez D erez0...@gmail.com

 I am looking for a software for n900 which i can record routes and upload
 to OSM (openStreetMap)

 anyone knows of such a program ?


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Re: OT: Suggestion for good KVM Over IP?

2010-11-29 Thread Steve G.

I read this interesting review of NoMachine, but have not tried it yet.

http://linux.about.com/b/2010/10/19/nomachine-nx-free-edition.htm?nl=1

I tried VNC in the past, and it worked but slowly. Ditto for rdesktop.

Z.

2010/11/29 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 Then look at Avocent's line of products - IMM/RSA/DRAC are an Avocent
 rebrand really, and I suspect iLO has a lot from there as well

 Thanks, I'll talk to them.

  BTW, If you sell fat VPS, based on KVM for example, you can simply

 provide VNC access to the VMs.


 For VPS it's a non issue. For hardware physical servers which does not
 belong to me (CoLo) and don't have any KVM solution built, it is an issue.

 Geoff, if a physical server doesn't boot, VNC won't help much.

 Hetz

  
  2010/11/29 Dima (Dan) Yasny dya...@gmail.com
 
  The native ones are quite OK nowadays - Dell DRAC/IBM IMM/HP iLO...
 
  Anything Avocent should be OK as well
 
  2010/11/29 Hetz Ben Hamo het...@gmail.com:
   Hi,
   I was wondering if someone could recommend a good KVM switch which I
 can
   connect to servers and control them through the net.
   I have seen few KVM's which gave some crappy display results, others
   which
   have some issues that when you press a key, it repeats it dozen times
   (try
   to type an IP like that).
   Any suggestions?
  
   Thanks,
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Re: Linux friendly scanner

2010-11-26 Thread Steve G.

Not true at all.

I have a brother scanner-printer-fax, and when the ink runs out, you can not
send faxes. They manufacturers sell the printer for next to nothing, then
get you by forcing you to change the ink every 3 months at ridiculous
prices. Every color that dries up bricks the machine FOR EVERY FUNCTION.
Instead of starting, it gives an error message and quits.

Z.

2010/11/26 Etzion Bar-Noy eza...@tournament.org.il

 No relationship between the scanner module and the printer module in the
 device. They both work indifferently.

 Ez

 On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Shlomo Solomon 
 shlomo.solo...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thursday, November 25, 2010, Hetz Ben Hamo wrote:
  All HP (and most others) scanners are working fine with Linux and
  sane-backend.

 Thank you and 4 others who suggested specific models. As I wrote, I didn't
 look at multifunction printers because I don't print much and the ink
 dries
 out. But, since three of the replies did refer to multifuntion devices, I
 have
 another question. What happens when the ink dries or clogs? Can I still
 use
 these devices to scan? The reason I ask is that after looking at prices, I
 realize that a multi-function is CHEAPER than a stand alone scanner. But,
 it
 would be useless to me if I have to keep feeding it expensive ink just to
 be
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Re: Linux on the Asus 1005PG

2010-11-18 Thread Steve G.

No idea about the specific model, but take the latest ubuntu netbook live
cd, put it in and see if you can connect to the network and the phone
network, browse the web and listen to music.

Z.

2010/11/18 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il

 Hi All,

 I was wondering if any of you got the chance of checking Linux
 compatibility on the Asus 1005PG - the Netbook sold by Orange (Partner) with
 a built in 3G modem (hence the G at the end).

 I tried Googling, but got only a lot of hits for the E (Edge) model

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Re: Linux on the Asus 1005PG

2010-11-18 Thread Steve G.

Won't they let you try it at their sales office?

I am pretty sure most, if not all, components would work, though.

Good luck and do let us know.

Z.

On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il wrote:

 Steve,

 I would be glad to do just that - if I had access to one of these Netbooks.

 I was hoping someone already tried that and could maybe share his/her
 experience with us

 I will get mine this coming Monday. I'll let you know.

 Amichai.



 2010/11/18 Steve G. word...@gmail.com

 No idea about the specific model, but take the latest ubuntu netbook live
 cd, put it in and see if you can connect to the network and the phone
 network, browse the web and listen to music.

 Z.

 2010/11/18 Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il

  Hi All,

 I was wondering if any of you got the chance of checking Linux
 compatibility on the Asus 1005PG - the Netbook sold by Orange (Partner) with
 a built in 3G modem (hence the G at the end).

 I tried Googling, but got only a lot of hits for the E (Edge) model

 Thanks!

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Re: Small debian based server distribution

2010-10-27 Thread Steve G.

And why or how is Ubuntu server different from any other linux server to
make it that way?

I use ubuntu on the desktop and am quite satisfied with it. I used to use
RedHat/Fedora and Suse/OpenSuse, until I ran into some unresolvable cyclical
package requirements a number of time (when you want program A which makes
you first get program B, which in turn requires Program A - or a similar
variation with A, B and C. It was possible to bypass that by forcing
installs, and by writing all the packages on one line, and other such
kludges, but every package with the problem (the problem were with YAST and
RPM) had to be researched first. I got disgusted, tried ubuntu and stuck
with it, so far without similar problems.

I decided to use their server 'product' because I felt comfortable with the
main distro, and again, have not had any problems to date - have not been
rooted, owned or anything. Not that it can't happen, but I am sure it is the
same with any other distro.

If I am missing something, please advise - and suggest a better server
product with an argument why it is better. I am talking a generic server -
ssh, ftp, httpd, nothing unique at this point.

Thanks!

Z.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 1:10 PM, geoffrey mendelson 
geoffreymendel...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Elazar Leibovich wrote:

  On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote:

 Hmmm you actually did a BadThing(tm) -- totally bypassing the package
 management mechanisms:

 I think his idea was not to have the APT/RPM packages in this system,
 shaving off some few megabytes.


 One of the tiny linux distros did that by using APT, but not including the
 package information in the distro itself. You had to download them and
 install them, possibly with APT. I think it was DSL, but I may be wrong.

 And to answer another posting I can't seem to find, IMHO anyone who uses
 UBUNTU for anything except an out of the box desktop is as the old saying
 goes cruisin' for a brusin' (asking to be beaten up).

 Geoff.

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Re: Small debian based server distribution

2010-10-27 Thread Steve G.

I guess I fall into the generic user category, and have no particular
intention to compile or even install stuff that is not included, but the
things you mention would be a serious problem for the serious user.

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Open Information

This message is about information neutrality and openness, which I find to
be parallel to open source vs. walled garden approach.

I find the attitude of Facebook towards my information distressing. While
they have no problem sharing my personal data with marketers, app
developers, and strategic partners, which is bad enough, they now limit
access to my data that I DO wish to share to BING, but not to Google or
other engines.

I wrote express my opinion about it here,
http://www.words2u.net/pmwiki/?n=Opinion.FreeMyFacebookInfo , and have also
started a Facebook group to convince Facebook to change their practices:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_112921682105482ap=1

You are all invited to read/join and express your opinion on the matter,
which to me is just as important as net neutrality or free access to code.

Thanks,

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Re: Open Information

I was not asking you to join Facebook, that part was directed at existing
members.

I also agree with you that a content sharing and dissemination site is not
the right place to keep information private and obscure.

That said, it is one thing for Facebook to know what I am doing, or even the
CIA/FBI/NSA, who is eavesdropping on these services, and another for them to
send user profile and activities info to third party. It is just like the
phone book - I put my number in the public domain so people can find me, but
that does not mean I want someone to collate my number with the
socioeconomic average for my street, then package it and send it to
marketers so they can call me and offer subscriptions for Newsweek.

Z.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:

 On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:03:08AM -0600, Steve G. wrote:
  This message is about information neutrality and openness, which I find
 to
  be parallel to open source vs. walled garden approach.
 
  I find the attitude of Facebook towards my information distressing. While
  they have no problem sharing my personal data with marketers, app
  developers, and strategic partners, which is bad enough, they now limit
  access to my data that I DO wish to share to BING, but not to Google or
  other engines.
 
  I wrote express my opinion about it here,
  http://www.words2u.net/pmwiki/?n=Opinion.FreeMyFacebookInfo , and have
 also
  started a Facebook group to convince Facebook to change their practices:
  http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_112921682105482ap=1
 
  You are all invited to read/join and express your opinion on the matter,
  which to me is just as important as net neutrality or free access to
 code.

 Just the obvious comment: I will not bother joining Facebook merely for
 that comment. If you want control over your information, Facebook is the
 wrong medium.

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Re: Open Information

I am not sure their business model is fixed in stone, and I would like them
to change it. They make enough money without selling my information to the
highest bidder. And they do want to stay on the good side of the customer,
because without us, they are nothing - a collection of servers wasting
energy. Like myspace, bebo and a whole lot of others (you have the list).

So it is like the usual dilemma, does one leave, or does one try to change
from within. At this time I am doing the latter. If that does not work, I
will re-evaluate. But in all honesty, the way I use Facebook I give them
only limited value. Some people do a lot more self-exposing on line, and are
much more vulnerable to abuse.

I think quite a few people, btw, join without full understanding of what
they are getting into.

Z.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Stan Goodman
stan.good...@hashkedim.comwrote:

 At 18:18:08 on Monday Monday 25 October 2010, Steve G.
 word...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was not asking you to join Facebook, that part was directed at
  existing members.
 
  I also agree with you that a content sharing and dissemination site is
  not the right place to keep information private and obscure.
 
  That said, it is one thing for Facebook to know what I am doing, or
  even the CIA/FBI/NSA, who is eavesdropping on these services, and
  another for them to send user profile and activities info to third
  party. It is just like the phone book - I put my number in the public
  domain so people can find me, but that does not mean I want someone to
  collate my number with the socioeconomic average for my street, then
  package it and send it to marketers so they can call me and offer
  subscriptions for Newsweek.
 
  Z.
 
  On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Tzafrir Cohen
 tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote:
   On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:03:08AM -0600, Steve G. wrote:
This message is about information neutrality and openness, which I
find
  
   to
  
be parallel to open source vs. walled garden approach.
   
I find the attitude of Facebook towards my information distressing.
While they have no problem sharing my personal data with
marketers, app developers, and strategic partners, which is bad
enough, they now limit access to my data that I DO wish to share
to BING, but not to Google or other engines.
   
I wrote express my opinion about it here,
http://www.words2u.net/pmwiki/?n=Opinion.FreeMyFacebookInfo , and
have
  
   also
  
started a Facebook group to convince Facebook to change their
practices:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_112921682105482ap=1
   
You are all invited to read/join and express your opinion on the
matter, which to me is just as important as net neutrality or free
access to


 But that's their business plan, and it's hard to argue that it isn't a
 successful one, having produced (even without bludgeoning customers to
 bundle their operating system exclusively) megamultigazillionaires.

 They've been at it long enough for their market to be aware of what they
 do, and either not to mind it or to be enthusiastic about it. If it
 doesn't fit with your expectations (which would be a lot like mine), then
 you are not in the market sector to which they appeal, as simple as that.
 Perhaps you should consider finding another social site that is a better
 match. Wikipedia has a long list of them:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_social_networking_websites

 Who would have thought there were so many?
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