Re: resuming FTP uploads

2000-08-06 Thread Richard Adams

On Sat, 05 Aug 2000,  Marc Mutz wrote about,  Re: resuming FTP uploads:
 Richard Adams wrote:
  
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  'reget filename'.
 snip
 
 He said 'upload' ducking

O well, cant always get it right can we.
At least he will know howto do it in reverse.

 
 Marc
 
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How to change resolution

2000-08-06 Thread Steven Ackerman

I've been having problems changing my resolution from 640x480 to
800x600. I tried running xf86config and when I do it sets my resolution
to 640x480. Someone told me there's a gui deal to do it called
xconfigurator. When I try running that from a command line as root I get
"command not found".

Anyway, I could use some help. Thanks in advance. This time, I'll try to
get back to the list about the results. I have had a few problems that
people on this list helped me resolve. Or at least pointed me in the
direction that resulted in a resolution. I appreciate the help. Maybe
posting the resolutions will help others.

-Steve


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Re: How to change resolution

2000-08-06 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 06 Aug 2000, Steven Ackerman wrote:
 I've been having problems changing my resolution from 640x480 to
 800x600. I tried running xf86config and when I do it sets my resolution
 to 640x480. Someone told me there's a gui deal to do it called
 xconfigurator. When I try running that from a command line as root I get
 "command not found".
 
 Anyway, I could use some help. Thanks in advance. This time, I'll try to
 get back to the list about the results. I have had a few problems that
 people on this list helped me resolve. Or at least pointed me in the
 direction that resulted in a resolution. I appreciate the help. Maybe
 posting the resolutions will help others.
 
 -Steve
=
You don't mention what distro you're using.  Not all utilize the same
tools.  You can try, as root, from a terminal, running XF86Setup
(case sensitive, so type it just as I have).  That is a gui type of
configuration tool for X.
Mike

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Re: How to change resolution

2000-08-06 Thread Steven Ackerman

Sorry about that. I'm using Red Hat 6.1.

Michael Scottaline wrote:

 On Sun, 06 Aug 2000, Steven Ackerman wrote:
  I've been having problems changing my resolution from 640x480 to
  800x600. I tried running xf86config and when I do it sets my resolution
  to 640x480. Someone told me there's a gui deal to do it called
  xconfigurator. When I try running that from a command line as root I get
  "command not found".
 
  Anyway, I could use some help. Thanks in advance. This time, I'll try to
  get back to the list about the results. I have had a few problems that
  people on this list helped me resolve. Or at least pointed me in the
  direction that resulted in a resolution. I appreciate the help. Maybe
  posting the resolutions will help others.
 
  -Steve
 =
 You don't mention what distro you're using.  Not all utilize the same
 tools.  You can try, as root, from a terminal, running XF86Setup
 (case sensitive, so type it just as I have).  That is a gui type of
 configuration tool for X.
 Mike

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Re: How to change resolution

2000-08-06 Thread Batara Kesuma

Do you have xconfigurator installed? Try
rpm -qa | grep Xconfigurator

If you cant find it. You have to install it first. I think it is included in 
the RedHat 6.1 CD. Anyway the command to run the program is
Xconfigurator

with capital X.

-bk-

On Sun, 06 Aug 2000 04:54:22 -0700
Steven Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sorry about that. I'm using Red Hat 6.1.
 
 Michael Scottaline wrote:
 
  On Sun, 06 Aug 2000, Steven Ackerman wrote:
   I've been having problems changing my resolution from 640x480 to
   800x600. I tried running xf86config and when I do it sets my resolution
   to 640x480. Someone told me there's a gui deal to do it called
   xconfigurator. When I try running that from a command line as root I get
   "command not found".

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Module problem: can't load tulip.o device busy.

2000-08-06 Thread Dances with Turtles

I'm no guru at this module thing.  I usually compile everything into the
kernel, but I am trying to install
a Linksys fastether 10/100 which is suppose to use the tulip driver
(RedHat 6.2).  My previous network card (linksys eth16) wasn't a problem
to get working.

I've tried building it into the kernel, no luck.  So, I'm trying it as a
module.  When I do an insmod, it says the device or resource is in use. 
The card is using IRQ 11, IO=0xF400, ( cat /proc/devices).  

Nothing shows up on /proc/interrupts.

Any help in how to debug this would be appreciated.

TIA.

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Re: How to change resolution

2000-08-06 Thread Ray Olszewski

About 2/3 of the way through the xf86config interaction, there is a spot
where it asks you if you want to change the order of the resolutions. If you
do so for the 8-bit ones, you should be able to get the system to default to
800*600. I think you do it by specifcying an order like 324, but that's from
memory so don't trust it as exact.

Once X is running, you can change resolutions with CTRL-ALT-(numeric)+ and
CTRL-ALT-(numeric)- .

But your problem *may* that your video card, or our screen hsync and vsync.
do not support 800*600. If that is the case, then no improved configuration
tool will help. Without details, I naturally can't say if this is your
problem, only that it might be.

Now, GUI tools. There are two. XF86Setup and Xconfigurator (think I have the
capitalization right on them). If you get "command not found", it probably
means the tool wasn't installed. (It could mean that it is on the system but
not in your PATH; in this case, use the "find" command to track it down and
run it by specifying its full path.)

Some distributions will install one or the other in a "normal" installation,
but others won't. Since you don't mention what you are running, I can't even
guess. Check the CD for whatever you are running and install the apropriate
packages (for example, in Debian there is xf86setup; the Debian package
manager will take care of its many dependencies; I can't find a .deb for
Xconfigurator). Personally, I don't like these tools, but preferences vary.

At 04:25 AM 8/6/00 -0700, Steven Ackerman wrote:
I've been having problems changing my resolution from 640x480 to
800x600. I tried running xf86config and when I do it sets my resolution
to 640x480. Someone told me there's a gui deal to do it called
xconfigurator. When I try running that from a command line as root I get
"command not found".
...

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Re: Module problem: can't load tulip.o device busy.

2000-08-06 Thread Ray Olszewski

Please post again with a more exact description of what you are doing. I use
the Linksys LNE100TX NIC here all the time and have no trouble with the
tulip driver provided with either Debian Potato or LRP distributions. I
doubt RH is shipping an outdated tulip.o.

So please clarify the following bits:

I've tried building it into the kernel, no luck.

What does "no luck" mean? What error do you get during compilation? Or
during boot/init? After boot/init, what does "ifconfig -a" say?

When I do an insmod, it says the device or resource is in use. 

Please quote the exact commend you enter and the exact response. What you
wrote is similar to some messages I get from insmod'ing but I can't manage
an exact match. Is it possible that you are insmod'ing with a kernel that
has the driver compiled in?

The card is using IRQ 11, IO=0xF400, ( cat /proc/devices).

Are you sure of this? On my systems, /proc/devices doesn't contain any
information about IRQ or IO. I need to consult /proc/interrupts,
/proc/ioports, or /proc/pci (depending on what I'm after). Are RH systems
that different from Debian systems?

At 10:05 AM 8/6/00 -0400, Dances with Turtles wrote:
I'm no guru at this module thing.  I usually compile everything into the
kernel, but I am trying to install
a Linksys fastether 10/100 which is suppose to use the tulip driver
(RedHat 6.2).  My previous network card (linksys eth16) wasn't a problem
to get working.

I've tried building it into the kernel, no luck.  So, I'm trying it as a
module.  When I do an insmod, it says the device or resource is in use. 
The card is using IRQ 11, IO=0xF400, ( cat /proc/devices).  

Nothing shows up on /proc/interrupts.

Any help in how to debug this would be appreciated.



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Re: fetchmail/minicom

2000-08-06 Thread davidturetsky

My ppp script now goes further, but still runs into the authentication
problem

Here are the pppd and chat log files, with debug added
The message, 'can't locate module char-major-45' in the pppd log file has
been appearing for some time. I don't believe I previously reported it

David

[chatlogfile]

Aug  6 11:24:53 debian pppd[274]: pppd 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]: send (ATZ^M)
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]: expect (OK)
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]: ATZ^M^M
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]: OK
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]:  -- got it
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]: send (ATDT410-727-0315^M)
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]: expect (CONNECT)
Aug  6 11:24:54 debian chat[275]: ^M
Aug  6 11:25:22 debian chat[275]: ATDT410-727-0315^M^M
Aug  6 11:25:22 debian chat[275]: CONNECT
Aug  6 11:25:22 debian chat[275]:  -- got it
Aug  6 11:25:22 debian chat[275]: send (^M)
Aug  6 11:25:22 debian chat[275]: expect (ogin:)
Aug  6 11:25:22 debian chat[275]:  37333/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS^M
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: ^M
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]:
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian last message repeated 23 times
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: UQKT2 tnt2.baltimore.md.da.uu.net^M
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: ^M
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: ^M
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: Login:
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]:  -- got it
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: send (MSN/davidturetsky^M)
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: expect (assword:)
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]:  MSN/davidturetsky^M
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: Password:
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]:  -- got it
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian chat[275]: send ([password removed]^M)
Aug  6 11:25:27 debian pppd[274]: Serial connection established.
Aug  6 11:25:28 debian pppd[274]: Using interface ppp0
Aug  6 11:25:28 debian pppd[274]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/modem
Aug  6 11:25:28 debian pppd[274]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0
auth pap magic 0x56f83bb3 pcomp accomp]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1524
asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp  13 09 03 00 c0 7b 7e 1e 10]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1  13 09 03 00 c0
7b 7e 1e 10]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 auth pap]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 asyncmap 0x0
magic 0x56f83bb3 pcomp accomp]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524
asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 mru 1524
asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 asyncmap 0x0
magic 0x56f83bb3 pcomp accomp]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x56f83bb3]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: peer refused to authenticate
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "peer refused to
authenticate"]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 compress VJ 0f
01 addr 206.115.159.40]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [LCP TermAck id=0x3]
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: Connection terminated.
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: Exit.

[pppdlogfile]

Aug  6 11:18:06 debian modprobe: can't locate module char-major-45
Aug  6 11:19:38 debian init: Switching to runlevel: 6
Aug  6 11:21:37 debian modprobe: can't locate module char-major-45

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From: Ray Olszewski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: davidturetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: fetchmail/minicom


 Good. You've found the answer. Your chatscript reported using
 "davidturetsky" as userid, but the ISP expects "MSN/davidturetsky". Change
 the chstscript and see if pppd (however you invoke it - I don't have the
 backfile of your messages handy) now works correctly.

 At 12:18 AM 8/6/00 -0700, davidturetsky wrote:
 I ran minicom:
 
 ATDT410-727-0315
 cr in response to CONNECT
 
 responded to login with MSN/davidturetsky (plain davidturetsky was
rejected)
 responded to password with password
 
 Got:
 
 Entering PPP Session.
 IP address is 63.24.126.61
 MTU is 1524
 [rest deleted]



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Repost of: module problem: can't load tulip.o with linksys 10/100lnetx V4.1 card

2000-08-06 Thread Dances with Turtles

I can not get my new linksys 10/100LNETX  card to be recognized by
Linux.  It works fine under windows.  Let me also 
state that my prior Linksys ether16 ISA card was working perfectly prior
to my 'upgrade.'

I am getting one of two problems depending on how I am building the
tulip driver.  Into the kernel, I get a 'device not found' from issuing
a "ifconfig eth0" and at boot time a message "delaying ethernet
initialization."
"ifconfig -a" shows not interface other than the loopback.

As a module, I get "device or resource busy messages"  (see below for
the actual commands).

Some system information that I'm getting, and not getting:
From "cat /proc/pci" (Previously I stated it was /proc/devices by
mistake) I get the card being recognized:
bus 0, device 13,function 0 io at 0xf000 irq 10 ...

The PCI slot is recognized when I do a "lspci", but reports the card as
a Bridgecom, Inc. as the Mfg.
/proc/devices does not show the ethernet card.

I'm using the tulip driver (latest, and I've tried the older one for the
pain of it).  
I've built them into the kernel (one at a time) and booted but only get
"delaying ethernet connection" and when I do an 'ifconfig eth0: I get a
"device not found."

When I compile the tulip driver for module support, and try to insmod
it, either of the commands below report the same thing of "device or
resource busy."
insmod tulip
response "/lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/net/tulip.o:  init_module:  Device or
resource busy"

I've tried with and without modifying the modules.conf setup up with
options of:
 alias eth0 tulip

And I've even tried adding the following:
alias eth0 irq=10, io=0xf000 
None of this made an impact.

Looking at /proc/interrupts does not show interrupt 10 as being in use. 
A matter of fact, I added a modem card and moved slots to change from
interrupt 11 to interrupt 10 just to see if that would work.  No
differences, the same message of "device or resource busy."  I noticed
that the io=address changed from 0xf400 to 0xf00.  Seems natural to me.

I do not have a network driver built into this version of the kernel
that I am using modules on. I double checked the configuration file
(/usr/src/linux/.config) and only have the two tulip drivers compiling
as modules.

In an attempt to get the network working again, i've removed my SCSI,
sound, and other optional features from the kernel, but no help.  (I
Can't remove my RAID, God help me.)

Well, I hope that I said everything that needs to be said.  I'll repeat
for the sake that it might help, that my
system "was" working with the ISA Ether16 from Linksys and that this
100LNETX is Version 4.1, their newest.
Perhaps there is something that I'm forgetting to remove regarding my
old card?  I've looked at the /etc/modules.conf, and even at
/etc/sysconfig/... (shouldn't be anything in there regarding hardware.)

Thanks in advance.  PS. and thanks to Ray O. for the quick response to
my earlier pathetic post.:) 




I have/am running:
redhat 6.2  kernel (2.2.14-5.0, pretty much vanilla installation with
one or two RPM upgrades to misc.)
1 NIC Card:  linksys 10/100LNETX V4.1   (note: prior linksys ether16
ISA worked great)
1 CD_RW
2 IDE software w/RAID-1

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Re: Repost of: module problem: can't load tulip.o with linksys 10/100lnetx V4.1 card

2000-08-06 Thread Ray Olszewski

At 12:03 PM 8/6/00 -0400, Dances with Turtles wrote:
I can not get my new linksys 10/100LNETX  card to be recognized by
Linux.  It works fine under windows.  Let me also 
state that my prior Linksys ether16 ISA card was working perfectly prior
to my 'upgrade.'
[details deleted]

Well ... your more detailed post makes it clear why you're finding this
process frustrating. You've pretty much tried almost everything I'd say to
check. I'm left with 3 thoughts ...

1. You say the card works under Windows but not under Linux. Does this mean
you have a dual-boot host? If so, the BIOS may be set wrong for Linux -- it
should say NO for the Plug-and-Play OS question.

2. Have you tried the card in more than 1 slot? In my experience (not just
with Linksys), some card/slot combinations work, others don't.

3. You probably did this right, but just in case ... you are using a a tulip
module from the same compile as the kernel, right? Not just the same kernel
humber -- the same actual compile.

These suggestions are ... to use your own word ... "pathetic". Afraid it's
all I can think of, though.

Getting the wrong manufacturer name in the lspci output is a commonplace
problem and indicates nothing of consequence. My Lynksys shows up as a
"Lite-On", for example.


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xvidtune XF86Config

2000-08-06 Thread Jim Reimer

After I run xvidtune to get the sync settings, how in the world do I know
which lines to change in XF86Config?

(i.e., which 640x480 line do I change?  There are a bunch of them.)

-jdr-

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Re: broken C++ compiler

2000-08-06 Thread Richard Spencer

I located the gcc-2.95.1-3 rpm and tried to install it, but 
apparently I don't have two packages I need:

error: failed dependencies:
binutils = 2.9.5.0.12 is needed by gcc-2.95.1-3
cpp = 2.95.1 is needed by gcc-2.95.1-3

I got and installed the cpp-2.95.1-3 rpm, but got the following
error when I tried to install binutils-2.9.5.0.27-2.i386.rpm:

unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/ldscripts: cpio:
 unlink failed - Is a directory

What on earth does this mean?

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000806 01:37]:
 
 
 On Sat, 5 Aug 2000, Richard Spencer wrote:
 
  I'll get a copy, but won't I have trouble ***compiling*** it?
 
 Slackware 7.0 shipped with egcs, but included gcc-2.95.1 in contrib,
 binary, which is what I use, and source.  I have the patch to upgrade
 the source to 2.95.2, but I haven't gotten around to making enough hd
 space to compile it.  Later slackwares probably had gcc-2.95.2 in the d1
 disk set; if not it is in contrib.  I would be very surprised if RedHat
 did not have on its ftp site and mirrors, a gcc-2.95.2-?.i386.rpm you
 can just install with rpm with no particular trouble.  That is why Ray
 suggested you look at a RH site or mirror.  At the top of your RH cd, if
 you have one, I think there will be a file MIRRORS or so to list the
 sites that mirror Red hat.  If you don't have a cd, I _think_ their site
 is ftp://ftp.redhat.com, it will have a MIRRORS file or similar, and
 there is always
 
 ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/RedHat/
 
 Sometimes it is heavily used and slow, but I know where it is.
 
 These are the slackware mirrors in Brazil.  a slackware tar.gz from
 slackware 7.0 or later should work fine on a RH 6.0 or later system,
 probably.  tar -C / -xvzf gcc-2.95.2.tgz
 sh /install/doinst.sh
 
 do not be alarmed if doinst.sh does not exist.  Not all slackware
 packages have one.
 
 Brazil:
 cce.ufpr.br:/pub/linux/slackware-3.2 (updated weekly)
 farofa.ime.usp.br: /pub/linux/slackware
 ftp.pop-mg.rnp.br:/pub/mirror/ftp.cdrom.com/linux/slackware-3.2/ 
 (bi-weekly)
 
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 Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
 Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
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Re: Repost of: module problem: can't load tulip.o with linksys10/100lnetx V4.1 card

2000-08-06 Thread Dances with Turtles



Ray Olszewski wrote:
 
 At 12:03 PM 8/6/00 -0400, Dances with Turtles wrote:
 I can not get my new linksys 10/100LNETX  card to be recognized by
 Linux.  It works fine under windows.  Let me also
 state that my prior Linksys ether16 ISA card was working perfectly prior
 to my 'upgrade.'
 [details deleted]
 
 Well ... your more detailed post makes it clear why you're finding this
 process frustrating. You've pretty much tried almost everything I'd say to
 check. I'm left with 3 thoughts ...
 
 1. You say the card works under Windows but not under Linux. Does this mean
 you have a dual-boot host? If so, the BIOS may be set wrong for Linux -- it
 should say NO for the Plug-and-Play OS question.
 
Well, I thought that you nailed it on the head as I wasn't aware that
the bios would be causing a problem, and I never
gave it a thought since my last ethernet card was PNP.  But, after
turning PNP OS aware off, there was no difference.

 2. Have you tried the card in more than 1 slot? In my experience (not just
 with Linksys), some card/slot combinations work, others don't.
 
Yes, multiple slots.  I also tried setting the priorities on the slots
(knowing that this was slim to no help).  I even added a winmodem so as
to change the interrupt and IO address.  It changed them, but didn't
resolve the problem.
With that in mind, I'm thinking that this isn't a 'random' chance that a
resource is in use, but something that I've selected incorrectly within
the building of the kernel, or the modules.

 3. You probably did this right, but just in case ... you are using a a tulip
 module from the same compile as the kernel, right? Not just the same kernel
 humber -- the same actual compile.
 
I think I understand this.  To answer, I always rebuild the kernel and
the modules together.  Pain in the arse, but it has to be done or I
would definately have a problem. :)

 These suggestions are ... to use your own word ... "pathetic". Afraid it's
 all I can think of, though.
 
But your responses are most welcomed and very good, even if they don't
resolve my issue, they definately would help many others, especially the
PNP OS and having another ethernet card built into the kernel, and
mixing kernels with network devices with modules. :)



 Getting the wrong manufacturer name in the lspci output is a commonplace
 problem and indicates nothing of consequence. My Lynksys shows up as a
 "Lite-On", for example.
 
I'm glad to hear that. I was a bit worried but not too much.  I had
tried a linux diag utility, I think that it was
called etherdiag or something, and it reported something totally
different, AND it told me my MAC address was all high-values
(FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF).  The "IPCONFIG -a "command under Windows
showed that this wasn't true.


I guess that I'm done to rebuilding the init_modules routines and see
what it is reporting.  I hate debugging at 
that level, but 

I'll let you know what I find out.

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ethernet not working

2000-08-06 Thread Charles E. Gelm

Howdy, Y'all:

 I've been trying to get networking running on my 
Slackware v7.0.0 install on my k6-2-266, 96 Megabyte RAM;
dual booting with windows98.

I have edited /etc/rc.inet1 with my IP address and bc-address:
192.168.1.2  192.168.1.255.

I have edited /etc/modules.conf:
 alais net-pf-4 off #original: OBTW, what does this mean?
 alias net-pf-5 off #original: OBTW, what does this mean?
 alias ne io=0x2a0 irq=10 #-- added line. ? that's a decimal ten right?

# The NIC is a Macromate MN220PCT which I have EZCFG.EXE'd
# to NE2000 mode with the above IO/IRQ and it works under 
# winders98.

I have edited /etc/resolv.conf  hosts, but I don't think we are there,
 yet.  ;-)

 I've compiled a kernel with lots of modules except my boot media.
I have 'make dep clean zImage zdisk modules modules_install'
seemingly withour error.  

 I see lots of 'unresolved sysbols' when booting.

If I:
ifconfig eth0
eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found.

If I:
insmod ne
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/ne.o: unresolved symbol ei_open
" ethdev_init
" and about 4 more lines

 I did something somewhere while trying to get this NIC to work
with isapnp, cause when the kernel boots I see this message:
"don't know what to do with IRQ 10 on or around line 22".

 I wonder what file I edited to cause this.  H.

I'm posting my .config file to http:/gelm.net/config.txt
is case it will help you help me. :-|

Chuck

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Re: ethernet not working

2000-08-06 Thread Ray Olszewski

Charles --

Some of what you post here is too vague to troubleshoot. I'll answer what I can.

You write:

If I:
insmod ne
/lib/modules/2.2.13/net/ne.o: unresolved symbol ei_open
" ethdev_init
" and about 4 more lines

ne.o requires that 8390.o be installed first. So either do that with insmod
or use modprobe to install ne.o (it takescare of dependencies for you).

Now, you also write:

 I've compiled a kernel with lots of modules except my boot media.
I have 'make dep clean zImage zdisk modules modules_install'
seemingly withour error.  

 I see lots of 'unresolved sysbols' when booting.

It would help if *I* could see them too. But it sounds like you never
actually install the zImage you create; at least you don't mention doing so.
But the modules_install step may be causing the new modules to overwrite the
old ones (depends on what kernel version you are using). Either install the
new kernel hy hand or (if your kernel Makefile supports it) do a "make
install" step. Be sure to run lilo after you do this.

You write:

If I:
ifconfig eth0
eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found.


Probably because the module fails, so eth0 doesn't exist.

You write:

 I did something somewhere while trying to get this NIC to work
with isapnp, cause when the kernel boots I see this message:
"don't know what to do with IRQ 10 on or around line 22".

 I wonder what file I edited to cause this.  H.

Me too. You aren't asking us to tell you what file you edited, are you?
Without context (where in the boot/init dsequence is this? what precedes and
follows it?) it's just a guessing game. Anyway, if you've assigned the card
a fixed io and irq with its setup probram, you shouldn't be messing about
with isapnp.

You write:

 alias ne io=0x2a0 irq=10 #-- added line. ? that's a decimal ten right?

Yes. You can enter the IRQ in hex, but you need to use the 0x prefix. so
irq=0xA would also be acceptable. (As would nothing; ne.o requires the io=
paramtere but not the irq= one.)

At 03:37 PM 8/6/00 -0400, Charles E. Gelm wrote:
Howdy, Y'all:

 I've been trying to get networking running on my 
Slackware v7.0.0 install on my k6-2-266, 96 Megabyte RAM;
dual booting with windows98.
...


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Re: ethernet not working

2000-08-06 Thread Richard Adams

On Sun, 06 Aug 2000,  Charles E. Gelm wrote about,  ethernet not working:
 Howdy, Y'all:

  alais net-pf-4 off #original: OBTW, what does this mean?
  alias net-pf-5 off #original: OBTW, what does this mean?
  alias ne io=0x2a0 irq=10 #-- added line. ? that's a decimal ten right?

Lawson pointed the problem out on this one.


  I've compiled a kernel with lots of modules except my boot media.
 I have 'make dep clean zImage zdisk modules modules_install'
 seemingly withour error.  
 
  I see lots of 'unresolved sysbols' when booting.

I tool a look at the URL below, BTW: there are two slaches needed not one
in the address, however you did not define CONFIG_MODVERSIONS i would
advise it, however that is not the problem here, what you can do is define
EXTRAVERSION in the top level Makefile that way you avoid old modules
getting left in the directory /lib/modules/kernel_version_number as if you
define say -1 as an EXTRAVERSION all modules get placed in
/lib/modules/kenerl_version-1, you make another version, call it -2 and so
on.

The other thing i would like to point out is the need to define;
CONFIG_FILTER
under Netwroking Options, it is needed if one wants or needs to use DHCP
and i belive some other network protocols.

 
 I'm posting my .config file to http:/gelm.net/config.txt
 is case it will help you help me. :-|

Possably this mail will not help you directly, as Ray and Lawson have done
that, but it might help you later on.

O yes, to correct one typo from Lawson he wrote;

alias eth0 ne
options ne io=0x2a0 io=10
 ^^
should be
options ne io=0x2a0 irq=10

 
 Chuck

73's

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Re: [newbie] Linux resources online

2000-08-06 Thread Renaud OLGIATI

I remember working on a machine with 4 k memory; but this was a main-frame
(IBM 1620) using vacum tubes; input and output by punched cards, and
running Fortran II; 
Must have been in '68 or '69.

This was the "obsolete" machine us students were allowed to play with; for
serious computing, there was another mainframe, with a hard disk of, IIRC,
4 Mb capacity; memory was 96 kb, raised to 128 kb around 1970.

And we were told we were priviledged, because our university had one of the
most powerful computers in the education system at the time !

Cheers,

Ron the Frog, getting old on the banks of the Paraguay River.

 Anybody else on this list old enough to remember when the "suits"
 didn't run things, and games/software were ported to every single
 platform, just because they could/it was neat? Circa '80's with
 names like Tandy, Atari, Amiga, etc, etc,... ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Linux resources online

2000-08-06 Thread Jim Reimer

I was using a 1620 in 1970, and it was transistorized, not tubes.  Had a
5-meg disk drive (14 inch variety, stacked platters) and punched cards.
"High speed" output was to punched cards, and if you wanted something you
could read, you had to run the cards through an accounting machine.  The
really hot computer at the time was the IBM 1130 (unless you had access to
one of the 360 variants).  The 1130 had assembler, FORTRAN, COBOL, and RPG.

Also had the privelege (?) of using an RCA 301, which had 4k of core memory,
six vacuum-column tape drives, and a 900-line/minute printer at about the
same time.  The only thing available on it was assembler.

Sure punched a lot of cards on 026 keypunch machines back then. :-)

-jdr-


Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
 
 I remember working on a machine with 4 k memory; but this was a main-frame
 (IBM 1620) using vacum tubes; input and output by punched cards, and
 running Fortran II;
 Must have been in '68 or '69.
 
 This was the "obsolete" machine us students were allowed to play with; for
 serious computing, there was another mainframe, with a hard disk of, IIRC,
 4 Mb capacity; memory was 96 kb, raised to 128 kb around 1970.
 
 And we were told we were priviledged, because our university had one of the
 most powerful computers in the education system at the time !
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ron the Frog, getting old on the banks of the Paraguay River.
 
  Anybody else on this list old enough to remember when the "suits"
  didn't run things, and games/software were ported to every single
  platform, just because they could/it was neat? Circa '80's with
  names like Tandy, Atari, Amiga, etc, etc,... ;-)
 
  --
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 DarkLord
 \/
 
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   is indistinguishable from magic.
-- Arthur C. Clarke
 
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Re: broken C++ compiler

2000-08-06 Thread Richard Spencer

O.K.  I installed the rpm for binutils-2.10.0.18-1 and now,  
 when I try to install gcc-2.95.1-3, I get these error messages:

[root@localhost rks]# man rpm
[root@localhost rks]# rpm -i --test gcc-2.95.1-3.i386.rpm
file /usr/bin/egcs from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from package 
egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/bin/gcc from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from package 
egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/bin/gcov from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from package 
egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/bin/i386-redhat-linux-gcc from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file 
from package egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/bin/protoize from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from package 
egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/bin/unprotoize from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from package 
egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/i386-redhat-linux/lib/libiberty.a from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts 
with file from package egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/info/gcc.info.gz from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from 
package egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/man/man1/egcs.1 from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from 
package egcs-1.1.2-12
file /usr/man/man1/gcc.1 from install of gcc-2.95.1-3 conflicts with file from package 
egcs-1.1.2-12


What now? (I do have the tarball for gcc-2.95.2 -- should I try it
instead?)

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 On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Richard Spencer wrote:
 
  I located the gcc-2.95.1-3 rpm and tried to install it, but
  apparently I don't have two packages I need:
 
  error: failed dependencies:
  binutils = 2.9.5.0.12 is needed by gcc-2.95.1-3
  cpp = 2.95.1 is needed by gcc-2.95.1-3
 
  I got and installed the cpp-2.95.1-3 rpm, but got the following
  error when I tried to install binutils-2.9.5.0.27-2.i386.rpm:
 
  unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/ldscripts: cpio:
   unlink failed - Is a directory
 
  What on earth does this mean?
 
 That looks like a malformed rpm.  It is trying to put a file where there
 is a directory.  In a normal binutils package, ldscripts is a directory
 with a bunch of files describing how ld is to behave on various
 architechtures and flavors thereof.
 
 Script started on Sun Aug  6 15:10:03 2000
 witsend:/dosd/tar$ ls
 binutils-2.10.0.12-1.i386.rpm
 witsend:/dosd/tar$ rpm -qlip *|grep ldscripts
 /usr/lib/ldscripts
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.x
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xbn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xr
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xs
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xu
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.x
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xbn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xr
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xu
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.x
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xbn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xr
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xu
 witsend:/dosd/tar$ exit
 exit
 
 Script done on Sun Aug  6 15:10:34 2000
 
 When as choked on a construct wine used, I figured my as was dragging
 and I needed a new binutils.  H. J. Lu releases a new development
 version to linux-gcc from time to time, so I just went and got one.
 
 ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/support/hjl/binutils/binutils-2.10.0.12-1.i386.rpm
 
 I think the current one is -2.10.0.18, so 0.12 may be gone.  I have had
 no problems with it.
 
 Lawson
 
 
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Re: ppp working [was:fetchmail/minicom]

2000-08-06 Thread davidturetsky


Yes, I changed to pop3 address and got past that point. Now the server has
something else it doesn't like. Here's the relevant syslog:

Aug  6 21:39:55 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3 +OK CPIMSPOPA09.email.msn.com
POP3 Server
Aug  6 21:39:55 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3 USER MSN/davidturetsky^M
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3 -ERR Permission denied
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Permission denied
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3 PASS *^M
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3 -ERR Command is not valid for
this state -- valid commands are: USER APOP AUTH QUIT.
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Command is not valid for this
state -- valid commands are: USER APOP AUTH QUIT.
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Authorization failure on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3 QUIT^M
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: POP3 +OK
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: authorization error while fetching
from pop3.email.msn.com
Aug  6 21:39:56 debian fetchmail[914]: Authentication failed for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does not like my login?

Here is the output from fetchmail --version

This is fetchmail release 4.6.4
Linux debian 2.2.12 #2 Thu Aug 26 11:46:26 PDT 1999 i686 unknown
Taking options from command line and /root/.fetchmailrc
Idfile is /root/.fetchids
Fetchmail will forward misaddressed multidrop messages to postmaster.
Options for retrieving from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  True name of server is pop3.email.msn.com.
  Protocol is POP3.
  Server nonresponse timeout is 300 seconds (default).
  Default mailbox selected.
  Only new messages will be retrieved (--all off).
  Fetched messages will be kept on the server (--keep on).
  Old messages will not be flushed before message retrieval (--flush off).
  Rewrite of server-local addresses is enabled (--norewrite off).
  Carriage-return stripping is disabled (stripcr off).
  Carriage-return forcing is disabled (forcecr off).
  Interpretation of Content-Transfer-Encoding is enabled (pass8bits off).
  MIME decoding is disabled (mimedecode off).
  Nonempty Status lines will be kept (dropstatus off)
  Messages will be SMTP-forwarded to: smtp.email.msn.com
  Recognized listener spam block responses are: 571 550 501
  Single-drop mode: 1 local name(s) recognized.
  No UIDs saved from this host.

Regarding the kill command below, I was logged in as root so I don't
understand why the command was rejected

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: ppp working [was:fetchmail/minicom]

[deleted]

 
 Don't I remember in the info from MSN you quoted the pop3 server was

 pop3.email.msn.com

 ??

 I think that is exactly what it means, pop3.email.msn.com, _not_ port
 110 at email.msn.com.  email.msn.com is a [sub]domain.  it doesn't have
 an IP and you can't get mail from it.

  The output from fetchmail -V follows:
 
  This is fetchmail release 4.6.4
  Linux debian 2.2.12 #2 Thu Aug 26 11:46:26 PDT 1999 i686 unknown
  Taking options from command line and /root/.fetchmailrc
  Idfile is /root/.fetchids
  The script reads:
 
  kill 'cat /var/run/ppp0.pid'

 can the user who ran ppp-off cat /var/run/ppp0.pid?  I bet that file is
 owned by root and not readable by other.
 
  poff terminates the connection successfully
  using pon (instead of my /etc/ppp/ppp-on script) also gets me a good
  connection
 
  I seemingly sent myself mail via sendmail, but it certainly hasn't
 arrived.
  I wrote:
 
  sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'sendmail test'
  .
  Ctl-D
 
  I assume once I 'pon' or '/etc/ppp/ppp-on' I can then rev up any
  application
  that wants to use the connection. How do I integrate the dialup into
  fetchmail/sendmail/exim . . . or should I?
 
  David
 
 Let's get 'em working first.  You can put jobs you want to run at ppp
 startup in /etc/ppp/ip-up.  man pppd tells what parameters it gets.





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Re: [newbie] Linux resources online

2000-08-06 Thread davidturetsky

Gee, what memories you bring back!

I learned FORTRAN II on an IBM 1620 Model 1 (no disk drive) at NYU in the
mid-60s, subsequently upgraded to a Model II with a 5meg drive. I then went
on to do a lot of programming on an 1130

In 1971 I went to work for a company which made a microprogrammable
replacement for the IBM 1130 which was much faster. Somehow in IBM's master
plan, the 1130 had too good a price/performance ratio to improve it further
since that would put it in competition with models like the 360/44

David

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: *List Linux-Newbie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux resources online


 I was using a 1620 in 1970, and it was transistorized, not tubes.  Had a
 5-meg disk drive (14 inch variety, stacked platters) and punched cards.
 "High speed" output was to punched cards, and if you wanted something you
 could read, you had to run the cards through an accounting machine.  The
 really hot computer at the time was the IBM 1130 (unless you had access to
 one of the 360 variants).  The 1130 had assembler, FORTRAN, COBOL, and
RPG.

 Also had the privelege (?) of using an RCA 301, which had 4k of core
memory,
 six vacuum-column tape drives, and a 900-line/minute printer at about the
 same time.  The only thing available on it was assembler.

 Sure punched a lot of cards on 026 keypunch machines back then. :-)

 -jdr-


 Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
 
  I remember working on a machine with 4 k memory; but this was a
main-frame
  (IBM 1620) using vacum tubes; input and output by punched cards, and
  running Fortran II;
  Must have been in '68 or '69.
 
  This was the "obsolete" machine us students were allowed to play with;
for
  serious computing, there was another mainframe, with a hard disk of,
IIRC,
  4 Mb capacity; memory was 96 kb, raised to 128 kb around 1970.
 
  And we were told we were priviledged, because our university had one of
the
  most powerful computers in the education system at the time !
 
  Cheers,
 
  Ron the Frog, getting old on the banks of the Paraguay River.
 
   Anybody else on this list old enough to remember when the "suits"
   didn't run things, and games/software were ported to every single
   platform, just because they could/it was neat? Circa '80's with
   names like Tandy, Atari, Amiga, etc, etc,... ;-)
  
   --
  /\
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  \/
 
  --
 
Any sufficiently advanced technology
is indistinguishable from magic.
 -- Arthur C. Clarke
 
---  http://personales.conexion.com.py/~rolgiati  ---
 
 
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Re: Simple Serial port question

2000-08-06 Thread Ray Olszewski

/proc/interrupts does NOT list all supported interrupts. It just lists the
ones that have actually been used. If the lack of a listing here is the ONLY
reason why you think your Linux kernel is not supporting the second serial
port, then you are probably mistaken.

If you have some other reason for believing that ... like you actually tried
to access the unidentified "piece of hardware" on the second serial port and
failed ... please describe in more detail what the hardware is, how you
tried to access it, and what went wrong. Maybe we can help, but not if we
don't know what the actual problem is.

In any case, a linx kernel may or may not have serial-device support
installed (either compiled in or insmod'ed). But it isn't selective.

At 11:30 PM 8/7/00 -0400, Peter Howell wrote:
   My question is simply how do I get it to work.  Here what info I have.

I recently reinstalled Caldera Openlinux 2.3.  I have a mouse on the first 
comm port (irq4) and that works just fine.  Unfortunately, support for the 
second comm port doesn't appear to have been installed.  It's not a 
conflict, since /proc/interrupts does not have a live for irq3 and when I 
check the IO-ports, 02f8-02ff and 03f8-03ff are both allocated to serial.
   I have a piece of hardware that is run through the second comm 
port.  Unfortunately, I don't know which configuration file(s) I should 
edit to make it available.  Any suggestions?


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Re: broken C++ compiler

2000-08-06 Thread Richard Spencer

I am getting both 0.12 and 0.18 -- I don't know why!
  thanks!  
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000806 16:44]:
 
 
 On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Richard Spencer wrote:
 
  I located the gcc-2.95.1-3 rpm and tried to install it, but
  apparently I don't have two packages I need:
 
  error: failed dependencies:
  binutils = 2.9.5.0.12 is needed by gcc-2.95.1-3
  cpp = 2.95.1 is needed by gcc-2.95.1-3
 
  I got and installed the cpp-2.95.1-3 rpm, but got the following
  error when I tried to install binutils-2.9.5.0.27-2.i386.rpm:
 
  unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/ldscripts: cpio:
   unlink failed - Is a directory
 
  What on earth does this mean?
 
 That looks like a malformed rpm.  It is trying to put a file where there
 is a directory.  In a normal binutils package, ldscripts is a directory
 with a bunch of files describing how ld is to behave on various
 architechtures and flavors thereof.
 
 Script started on Sun Aug  6 15:10:03 2000
 witsend:/dosd/tar$ ls
 binutils-2.10.0.12-1.i386.rpm
 witsend:/dosd/tar$ rpm -qlip *|grep ldscripts
 /usr/lib/ldscripts
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.x
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xbn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xr
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xs
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/elf_i386.xu
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.x
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xbn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xr
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386linux.xu
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.x
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xbn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xn
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xr
 /usr/lib/ldscripts/i386pe.xu
 witsend:/dosd/tar$ exit
 exit
 
 Script done on Sun Aug  6 15:10:34 2000
 
 When as choked on a construct wine used, I figured my as was dragging
 and I needed a new binutils.  H. J. Lu releases a new development
 version to linux-gcc from time to time, so I just went and got one.
 
 ftp://ftp.valinux.com/pub/support/hjl/binutils/binutils-2.10.0.12-1.i386.rpm
 
 I think the current one is -2.10.0.18, so 0.12 may be gone.  I have had
 no problems with it.
 
 Lawson
 
 
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Re: ppp working

2000-08-06 Thread davidturetsky

I can't find any variant of account name that produced any
successful/different result, so I am posting the question to msn, which
provided the account name styling in the first place. Their policy is to
reply within 24 hours

Lawson, yes, I had failed to chmod 755 /etc/ppp/ppp-off. However when I
cleaned that up, I got:

/etc/ppp/ppp-off: kill: cat /var/run/ppp0.pid: no such pid

However there is just such a file in that directory

David

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Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: ppp working [was:fetchmail/minicom]




 On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, davidturetsky wrote:

 ...
 this is sloppy.  The pop3 server is telling you this is not a valid
 user.  Most pop servers will wait for a password even if the user is not
 valid, then reject the login.  Your ppp account is MSN/davidturestsy,
 but I bet your pop3 account is just davidturetsky.  pop3 couldn't care
 less what kind of line or underlying protocol is used.
 ...
  Does not like my login?

 Sure looks that way to me.  if plain davidturetsky (without
 MSN/) doesn't do it, maybe you should look back to the info from MSN a
 few letters back.  once it doesn't like the user, the rest is fallout
 from that bomb.
 ...
  Regarding the kill command below, I was logged in as root so I don't
  understand why the command was rejected
 
  David

 Does the command itself have execute permission?  Root can read, write
 or delete a file without permission, but it can not execute a file that
 has no execute permission.





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Re: fetchmail/minicom

2000-08-06 Thread Ray Olszewski

At 01:25 PM 8/6/00 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 Aug  6 11:25:29 debian pppd[274]: rcvd [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 auth pap]

Looks like the remote pppd is satisfied with the shell login and doesn't
want to be bothered with PAP.  Maybe you can try

noauth

in /etc/ppp/options.

Good catch, Lawson. I'd missed that he had "auth" in that file AND didn't
override it in the command-line options that invoke pppd (the usual
workaround). 
But I wanted to follow up because the way you wrote your response, David
(and others) might be misled about the meaning of "auth".

From the pppd man page:

   auth   Require  the  peer  to  authenticate  itself before
  allowing network packets to be  sent  or  received.
  This  option  is  the  default  if the system has a
  default route.  If  neither  this  option  nor  the
  noauth  option  is  specified, pppd will only allow
  the peer to use IP addresses to  which  the  system
  does not already have a route.


In other (perhaps clearer?) words, the "auth" option requires the *other*
end to authenticate itself to *you*. I've never found an ISP implementation
of ppp that does this; it's normally used with the so-called "server" end of
a ppp connection (the end that answers the phone), not the so-called
"client" end (the end that makes the phone call).

From the frequency with which this comes up, I'd guess that "auth" is the
most misunderstood option in pppd.


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Re: fetchmail/minicom

2000-08-06 Thread Ray Olszewski

Good. You've found the answer. Your chatscript reported using
"davidturetsky" as userid, but the ISP expects "MSN/davidturetsky". Change
the chstscript and see if pppd (however you invoke it - I don't have the
backfile of your messages handy) now works correctly.

At 12:18 AM 8/6/00 -0700, davidturetsky wrote:
I ran minicom:

ATDT410-727-0315
cr in response to CONNECT

responded to login with MSN/davidturetsky (plain davidturetsky was rejected)
responded to password with password

Got:

Entering PPP Session.
IP address is 63.24.126.61
MTU is 1524 
[rest deleted]



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