Re: OT 1TB pata drives?

2010-08-08 Thread C. Falconer

Nick Rout wrote, On 08/07/2010 10:57 AM:

good point, there is nothing over 500G in the ide section.


I've just checked with datastor, one of the larger disties in NZ

Just to let you know that all IDE HDD has gone EOLed for our vendors. 
That is why there is no drive listed under the (pata) category.


So, PATA is a dead duck nowdays, just like DDR1 ram.


--
Craig Falconer


Re: Thunderbird 3.0 - huge system slowdowns?

2010-08-05 Thread C. Falconer

Phill Coxon wrote, On 08/06/2010 08:02 AM:

I just saw this page about thunderbird 3 using up to 100 times the level
of cpu / disk resources beacause of the search index and offline imap
indexing.


We've found that Keep messages for this account on this computer under 
Synchronisation  Storage in Account Settings seems to be a cause of 
much disk usage.


This is especially so when using windows roaming profiles.

If you have an imap server then locally stored mail is useless anyway.


--
Craig Falconer


Re: Migration of linux-users to Mailman

2010-08-05 Thread C. Falconer

Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 08/05/2010 10:08 PM:

On 5 August 2010 21:56, Nick Routnick.r...@gmail.com  wrote:

wow is it really that long? (not that I was on the list from the
start, but my kid is almost 15 and I know I started linux when he was
very small (which he certainly ain't no more, what the hell do they
put in our food these days?))



Aren't there a couple of maxims about not biting the hand that feeds
you and not looking a gift horse in the mouth.


I think we have a volunteer to wind the rubber bands AND shovel the coal!

(spot the ObOldfart reference...)


--
C. Falconer


Re: Thunderbird 3.0 - huge system slowdowns?

2010-08-05 Thread C. Falconer

Phill Coxon wrote, On 08/06/2010 11:09 AM:

On 06/08/10 10:32, Robert Fisher wrote:

I do not completely agree - I find that have the mail stored locally
helps with speed and traffice issues when email size is considered
(attachements open much faster locally)



I think Craig meant if the imap server is local to the same computer or
local network.


Yes I did, and I'm also spoilt with the speed of the net connections 
here no smelly old DSLs with sub 1Mbit uploads here!



--
Craig Falconer


Re: Seeking Linuxy hardware to rejig my life to digital convergence....

2010-07-19 Thread C. Falconer

Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 07/19/2010 11:21 PM:

  * Something with cheap calls to South Africa / US / UK (diasporas tend to do 
that to you)


http://www.skype.com/

Traffic costs only for computer to computer worldwide. Piffling for
voice, and the quality far exceeds that of the POTS system. I have
used it for far too many hours to be able to say how many. It works a
treat. Linux version available.

Small charge for computer to POTS phone.
0.017 Euros per min NZ to the UK
0.055 Euros per min NZ to South Africa


No no no!   Skype is evil and nasty and CLOSED.   I'm astonished that 
you could suggest such a thing.


We use 2talk commercially and they're sodding brilliant.
Skype can take a running jump and stay there.


--
Craig Falconer


Re: Seeking Linuxy hardware to rejig my life to digital convergence....

2010-07-19 Thread C. Falconer

John Carter wrote, On 07/19/2010 09:08 PM:

So what I need is...
  * A cordless voip phone or a way of tacking a standard cordless to,
umm, something.
  * Access to a cheap gateway from the IP to Christchurch local
telephone system
  * Something with cheap calls to South Africa / US / UK (diasporas tend
to do that to you)


No.  Your first requirement is decent stable reliable internet 
connectivity.   And DSL is not quite there.
The minimum I'd suggest is TCL cable, because it works far more 
reliably.   Though when they have an outage its generally a good one but 
only once or twice a year.
Other connections are available, but cost a lot more.   Commercially we 
have some sites with fibre, and a separate vlan for voice.


You possibly already have a cordless phone - connect it to an ATA like 
the linksys pap2t to make it a voip phone.They're something like 
$100 and can do two analogue phones.


You can do what I do, and have your ATA log directly into 2talk over the 
internet, or you could run an asterisk install at home and run an IAX 
trunk to 2talk.   trixbox is a turnkey asterisk distro, or there are 
hardware ones - see www.nicegear.co.nz for some.


http://www.2talk.co.nz/

South Africa - 10c/minute
South African Mobile - 25c/minute   (same as NZ mobiles)
UK 3c/minute
UK Mobile - 25c/minute   (same as NZ mobiles)
USA 5c/minute
USA Mobile - not listed.

Full rate card is at http://www.2talk.co.nz/assets/lib/2talkrates.pdf 
but its outdated - their mobile rate is now 24c/minute.


Note calls to the 3c/minute destinations come out of your 500 minute 
monthly allocation on the 2talk500 plan.  That's $15/mo and you can even 
port your 03 number.



If you want faxing, use a 2talk fax to email number for incoming, and 
tell anyone who wants you to send a fax that they're luddites.  Fax over 
voip is difficult.




After buying, trying and returning to the #...@$#! red shed under gaurantee
two TV's... and having similar problems with DSE TV's...
I'm very reluctant to waste money on a TV again...
Yet the Sprats want TV and a place to plug their game consoles into. Dang.
Now with netbooks being cheaper (and better quality) than many TV's...
what I need is...
* Some way of getting TV  game console inputs on to the display.


You could use some kind of USB capture device, but they tend to have 
lag.  So the player hits a key but the game has moved on 1/10 second and 
they're too late.   Best thing here is a good quality monitor with 
composite-video inputs.


How about an LCD TV/Monitor, so you can switch over to another input for 
the console?


Or something like those Composite to VGA adapters so they can use a 
normal monitor.

http://www.cdlnz.com/productimages/pdfs/vc100.pdf is worth about $120

At home we have a mythtv backend in the garage running 24/7, a dedicated 
frontend in the house which is connected via DVI-HDMI to a 32 LCD and 
to a small stereo.  There's a PS2 which connects to the composite-in on 
the TV.  This works nicely.






Hmm. There is an ADSL2+ to city block cabinet a 50m down the road
Would it be worth replacing my DSE ADSL XH1175 router with an adsl2+ one
anyway?


ADSL is pretty dreadful.   The limited upload means your digital 
convergence is going to be mostly inbound.
If this DSE router gets ADSL2 speeds then there's not a lot more to be 
gained.   ADSL2+ is mostly an advertising phrase, and generally only 
improves on ADSL2 performance at and above the 5000+ foot mark.


We use cisco routers but for sheer throughput the DSL technology is the 
limiting factor.


Another thing to consider is a good firewall.  Don't just run iptables 
on your server.  I use and like pfsense ( http://www.pfsense.org/ ) and 
there's bound to be a good aftermarket firmware for your WRT.



Food for thought.  Please let us know how it goes.

--
Craig Falconer



Re: Seeking Linuxy hardware to rejig my life to digital convergence....

2010-07-19 Thread C. Falconer

Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 07/20/2010 04:15 PM:

Remember that the replacement should be free of $$$ cost and
installation be available on Linux, Windows, and Mac O/S X. It _must_
be as simple to install as falling off the proverbial log, so Dear Old
Aunt Tilly can make it go.

Honest, I'm all for a more acceptable replacement if something else is
both available and as easy to install and use.



So - do you expect your Aunt Tilly can do her own plumbing when a tap 
leaks?  No - she calls a plumber.


Personally I like solutions that work as expected.  If your Aunt Tilly 
needs a voip phone, I want to configure it once and never again.


As long as she knows how to dial, she'll be okay. (and that was hard 
converting her from a ducatic pulse dial to a keypad)



So back to the original question from John
Phone -- VOIP
TV   -- media centre thing
Family Photo shoebox -- digital photo frame

Any data storage that you care about (photos etc) raid plus backup 
plus offsite backup.




--
Craig Falconer


Re: Handheld scanner recommendations

2010-07-11 Thread C. Falconer

Daniel Hill wrote, On 07/10/2010 01:10 PM:

Yes, I've brought a USB cable for my ancient Nokia phone from them, well
after the 5th one not working I gave up


Did you ever consider your phone might be broken?

--
Craig Falconer


Re: Handheld scanner recommendations

2010-07-05 Thread C. Falconer

Aidan Gauland wrote, On 07/05/2010 08:32 PM:

I would like to get a handheld scanner for academic research (i.e.
digitising required reading for uni classes).  Can anyone recommend
any models (and tell of any to avoid)?  I have given myself a headache
searching, and handhelds seem to be wy less common than
flatbeds.


Crikey - I remember thinking that hand scanners were cool in the early 90s.

From memory they're generally serial based.  You're not going to find 
any of them new.


This crowd have some modernised variants   http://planon.com/ 
bluetooth etc.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/accessories/aa54/   $300 US new
No idea about linux support


I have a vague memory of some that were like pens, and you dragged the 
tip over the page one line at a time.   Can't find anything like that now.



Another option is a camera with a decent macro mode - a 5MP snap of a 
page from 400mm should be readable, if the lens and lighting is right.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Copy-Stand-Cheap-and-easy-to-build/
Not exactly portable, and also there is a firmware for canon-based 
cameras at http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK which can be very handy.



Or are you just finding an excuse to buy a tool?  Scanning required 
reading isn't the same as reading/comprehending the required reading :)




--
Craig Falconer


Re: Handheld scanner recommendations

2010-07-05 Thread C. Falconer

Andrew Errington wrote, On 07/06/2010 01:01 PM:

http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.33756
Oh, and I've never bought anything from DealExtreme, although I *sooo*
want to.



I have.  The quality is about what you'd expect from mail-order.  It 
looks really good in the catalogue pictures, but in real life its 
generally less.


Materials are generally weaker, but gear is patterned after other 
well-known designs.


That said - some of it is stunningly good.



--
Craig Falconer


horse and webshell

2010-03-22 Thread C. Falconer
Hi all - with respect to horse, how many of the current users make use 
of the webshell running on port 443?

If that makes no sense, https://shell.clug.org.nz/

Logs don't tell me who uses which mechanism for connecting.

I want to run openvpn on port 443, and if noone uses webshell it can go 
away.



Bother cablemodems with only one IP address.


--
Craig Falconer



Re: OT: Telecom Proxy servers?

2010-03-06 Thread C. Falconer

aaron mcewan wrote:

On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 15:04 +1300, Neil Stockbridge wrote:

Telstra subject their cable customers to a transparent proxy as well.  Their
proxy behaves when told to get the uncached version of an object thankfully.

- neil


and if you gather evidence of it stuffing up things they will put that
site on a bypass list (it took some convincing though... )


Yes - I had exactly that problem with ogame.org   An email to 
helpd...@paradise.net.nz (or was it webmaster@ )  followed by a bit of 
back-and-forth to prove the problem was their transproxy and its all 
fixed, for all customers.


Not hard, just takes time.


--
Craig Falconer


RE: Horse running fine

2005-04-18 Thread C. Falconer
From: IT Support NZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Any idea?
 A load average of 15-16? Shouldn't there be a decimal place in that
 somewhere? e.g. Load average of 0.15 to 0.16? 

Nope - 15.xx to 16.xx

 What was your top process in terms of cpu usage? Is it apt-getting
 stuff and trying to compile?

Don't recall sorry - there was no process using a lot of CPU time, rather
they were deadlocked waiting in uninterruptible sleep for something.  

Never actually found out what though Its working fine now.



RE: OT: Wireless networks

2005-04-17 Thread C. Falconer
Yes - WPA all the way.

For how to set up a linux mchine with WPA please refer to this
http://www.wlug.org.nz/WirelessNetworkSecurityNotes
I still haven't got hand-off working well between APs on the same lan, and
when I go home I am on another network with a different PSK.

Windows XP requires SP2 to handle WPA, so anyone who claims they've been
running WPA for years is either lying or has the patch for SP1.



-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 16 April 2005 4:53 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Re: OT: Wireless networks


On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 10:57 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 16:40, C. Falconer wrote:
  

http://staff.avonside.school.nz/cf/gps/2005-04-15%20Wireless%20Chch%20Map.j
 p g
 
  This map is the graphical result of me having access to a GPS, 
  802.11 wireless, a laptop and a bike or car.  This represents 
  several weeks of trips.
 
  Comments?
 Semi interesting article on the same subject from Robert X. Cringely 
 at:-
 
 http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050414.html
 
 Also interesting to see how many of the hot-spots are Primary Schools.
 
 I wonder who is responsible for setting them up in that way?

Perhaps someone who realises that WEP is next to useless anyway.

Just because WEP is not enabled, it doesn't mean the site is vulnerable.
Traffic may be encrypted with ssh tunnels, or a variety of other methods. 

see http://interactive.linuxjournal.com/article/8017 (which you need to be a
subscriber to read, so heres some quotes:

If you're still relying on WEP alone, you should be nervous: venerable and
well-known vulnerabilities in WEP make it simple for eavesdroppers to crack
your WEP keys simply by capturing a few hours' worth of WLAN packets and
brute-forcing the flawed encryption used by WEP.

In a nutshell, 802.11b's WEP protocol has two fatal flaws. First,
cryptographic-implementation flaws make it impossible to achieve encryption
key strength effectively higher than 40 bits, even if your gear supports
higher key lengths. Second, a weakness in WEP's encryption key derivation
implementation makes it possible for an attacker to derive a WEP-protected
network's WEP secret key-the encryption key used by all clients on the
entire WLAN-after capturing a sufficient number of packets.



 
 --
 C. S.
-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: OT: Wireless networks

2005-04-17 Thread C. Falconer
You have a point...

In an ideal world, bandwidth would be a lot cheaper, caps wouldn't exist,
and we could share the left-over capacity nicely.

However its not, and remember the other side of things... give people an
inch and they'll take a mile.  IE, provide a service like that, and noone
will thank you for it, and they'll bitch and moan whenever theres a problem.
Bitter sounding?  



-Original Message-
From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 18 April 2005 9:28 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT: Wireless networks


C. Falconer wrote:
 Yes - WPA all the way.

Or, stop everyone from trying to break your wlan, set it up with no
encryption at all, do traffic shaping on the router and allow say 2kbps for
a few open ports to allow neighbours and visitors to use the net to check
for email (HTTP,HTTPS,POP,IMAP,SMTP,SSH).

Then set up OpenVPN to allow a properly authenticated user to gain full
(encrypted) access to the private LAN behind the router.

The *worst* thing about wlan encryption is that it's a challenge, and
cracking it doesn't mean the manufacturers change the protection. Crack
OpenVPN, and the project can fix the problem openly.

Give them something for nothing, and the temptation to crack is reduced.
And how else are you going to cope with friends visiting with laptops?
Actually *remember* your wlan key password? I can't remember mine (it's all
configured up in the client machines already)

-jim, being contrary. Good morning!



Horse running fine

2005-04-17 Thread C. Falconer
I have searched and found no cause for horse to go belly up last week.

Evidence included
A load average of 15-16
A number of processes in state D, including a bunch of
apt-extracttemplate processes
Giving a reboot command from remote hung the machine.

I recently configured horse to get packages from an apt-proxy server wehich
entailed allowing port  through the firewall to my own server.  I doubt
that caused the problem though.

Any idea?



RE: OT: Wireless networks

2005-04-15 Thread C. Falconer
1) gpsdrive for present position
   kismet to sniff wireless
   gpsmap (from kismet) to plot map
   and cos gpsmap doesn't have any good map sources for New Zealand I used
photoshop to overlay the track on an aerial photo I have.

2) `cos I'm a `tard.  It was late on Friday, and outlook defaults to
html  And this once I forgot to change it.  Sorry.  Deal.

-grin-

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 5:05 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT: Wireless networks


 http://staff.avonside.school.nz/cf/gps/2005-04-15%20Wireless%20Chch%20
 Map.jp
 g
  
 This map is the graphical result of me having access to a GPS, 802.11 
 wireless, a laptop and a bike or car.  This represents several weeks 
 of trips.
  
 Comments?

Yes!

1) What software are you using to do your maps?

2) Why are you posting in HTML?

A 



RE: computer upgrade

2005-04-14 Thread C. Falconer
What chipset is the video card?

PINE is a pretty nasty brand.  I'd be looking for an ATI or nvidia card.
Otherwise its all good.  Quality of PSU is unknown (I've never heard of
them)




-Original Message-
From: Dave G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 15 April 2005 4:04 p.m.
To: Canterbury Linux Users Group
Subject: OT: computer upgrade


Hi Cluggers

not sure if this is OT or not...

Finally I'm getting round to upgrading the old linux box
bit of a nightmare trying to compare apples with apples etc. while doing the
rounds of the retailers...

I'm looking at a AMD Athlon64 based system, so the specs are:

PROCESSOR:
AMD Athlon64 3000+ Socket939 CPU Boxed

MOBO:
GIGABYTE GA-K8NSC-939 nForce3 Ultra, Socket 939,
Dual channel DDR400/333/266 Gigabit Lan,
SATA.AGP 8x,8-CH Audio, USB 2.0

GRAFFICS CARD:
PINE XFX PV-T43K-UDF7 GF 6600 AGP 256MB TV 
DUAL DVI AGP OUT (with two DVI-VGA Converter)

POWERSUPPLY:
Task 520W Ultra Silent PSC, with 120mm crystal Blue
LED ball bearing fan (900PRM silent operation), SATA
power connector, piano black casing, compatiable
with 24 pin MB (Xeon.3.3V = A,5V = 34A,12V =
28A,3.3V and 5V combined = 262W.

CASE:
Lian-Li PC-7B Special Edition, all-alloy ,500W 120mm
fan PSU (SATA Ready), 2 x case fans with filtering

MEMORY:
A-Data 1 Gb (2 x 512Mb) DDR4400 Dual Channel
memory kit.


I have been to google/Linuxhardware.org etc. etc. 

but priority 1 was everything linux compatable 
(it'll probably be a gentoo box down the track - but initially Mepis/Debian 
sarge)

One thing I'm not too sure about is the dual boot with windows thing?? (I'm
currently dual booting with Win$98 - but if it comes down to it this will be
a Linux only machine!)

I understand that Win$ is a non-starter with 64bit???

I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions/experiences/nightmares etc.
before I take the plunge??

-- 
cheersdave g

Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Kmail 1.7.2/Kontact 1.0.2 KDE/Desktop 3.3.2
SimplyMEPIS 3.3 Linux - Kernel 2.6.10 (i686)




OT: Wireless networks

2005-04-14 Thread C. Falconer
Title: Message



http://staff.avonside.school.nz/cf/gps/2005-04-15%20Wireless%20Chch%20Map.jpg

This map is the 
graphical result of me having access to a GPS, 802.11 wireless, a laptop and a 
bike or car. This represents several weeks of trips.

Comments?


RE: ISP's / RIP ADSL Router - 2003-2005

2005-04-12 Thread C. Falconer
I wish they had throttle on cap, like the new DSL plans  That'd make
stuff so much safer :-\


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2005 12:35 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: ISP's / RIP ADSL Router - 2003-2005


On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:17, John Carter wrote:
 My DSE ADSL modem / router/hub has died.

 I don't know why. Perhaps the kids tripped over the cord one too many 
 times, perhaps the bluetooth access point I plugged into fried it, I 
 don't know.

 I need to change my ISP service plan anyway, now would be a Good Time 
 for an Alternate Magical Technology to show up...

 Any suggestions?
If you are in a Telstra Cable street, I can recommend it.

Only lack is that there is no 2MHz / 10GB plan.

--
C. S.



RE: ISP's / RIP ADSL Router - 2003-2005

2005-04-12 Thread C. Falconer
Heh - yeah see the good points on cable TV..

1)  You get exactly the same programming as sky
2)  You pay about the same as for sky
3)  You get adverts anyway
4)  No big dish on the roof to show how well off you are.
5)  And theres 64 channels of pure crap on.

Honestly - theres nothing worth watching on TV anyway.

Now, if those programmes were streamed, without the adverts, then I'd be
interested  But not when I have to pay to see ads.


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2005 3:15 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: ISP's / RIP ADSL Router - 2003-2005


On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:30, John Carter wrote:
 So much for economies of scale.
I have heard that they expected the takeup of Cable Television to _much_ 
greater than it proved to be, and were absolutely amazed by the amount of 
interst in Internet and competitive telephone services. When the TV interest

proved to be so desultory Saturn sold out.



RE: OT: Dell PA-6 PSU.... anybody got one?

2005-04-11 Thread C. Falconer
Suprisingly its turned out to be the batteries.

One battery is coming back to life, but the other one is dead dead.  (as
opposed to dead alive, or alive dead)

Having both totally discharged batteries in the machine at once stopped it
from running...  Having one in there was okay to get it off the floor then
the machine ran fine.
The first battery charge ran the machine for about half a second... The
second charge ran it for about a minute, etc etc.  Now its returning about
half an hour of runtime.  

The biggest annoyance is these batteries were both bought new about a year
ago.  So the answer is DON'T fully discharge Lithium Ion batteries, and
charge them up rather than storing them flat.


-Original Message-
From: David Mann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 11 April 2005 8:08 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT: Dell PA-6 PSU anybody got one?


On Apr 11, 2005, at 4:56 PM, C. Falconer wrote:

 I'm on the scrounge.  Does anyone have a Dell PA-6 power supply that I
 can do a short test with? 

Short as in time or short as in circuit? :)

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/



RE: Odd memory usage

2005-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Heisenberg may have been here

Another option is the command top, then press M for Memory sort
man top for lots of things - did you know z turns on colour support?

-Original Message-
From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 11 April 2005 2:01 p.m.
To: linux users
Subject: Re: Odd memory usage


On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 13:43 +1200, Jamie Dobbs wrote:
 This pattern of memory usage repeats itself on a daily basis but I 
 cannot determine why it should, there are no scheduled jobs apart from 
 a mail backup at 1:15am and pop checks every 5 minutes, can anyone 
 suggest what I can check to see what the memory hogging culprit is?
One way to find out is to open the GNOME System Monitor
gnome-system-monitor
and sort the process listing by memory. In my case the main memory users are
  * Evolution (144MB, 35MB shared)
  * Evolution Data Server (99MB, 13MB shared)
  * Rhythmbox (92MB, 21MB shared)
  * Nautilus (79MB, 35MB shared)
  * Evolution Alarm Notify (69MB, 22MB shared)
  * Straw (41MB, 24MB shared)
-- 
Michael JasonSmith  http://www.ldots.org/




RE: Odd memory usage

2005-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Maybe you're measuring the wrong thing...
Memory unused is memory wasted, so linux uses spare memory as a disk cache.

socks:/junk# free -m
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  1011877133  0  0476
-/+ buffers/cache:400610
Swap:  964229734

So theres 964 Mb of swap, of which 229 is used.  Theres 1011 Mb of memory,
of which 877 is used and 133 is free.  476 Mb of that used memory is disk
cache that will be freed up if the system starts to need it.  So if the disk
cache was freed there would be 400 Mb used and 610 Mb free.



-Original Message-
From: Jamie Dobbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 11 April 2005 2:04 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Odd memory usage


snip

 ps -ef will give you a list of what's running. Test ni and out of this 
 period, and subtract one from the other?

 Cheers,


 Steve
 PS. options growright keeps you saner!

Yeah, I will implement growright now as it will make it a bit easier on the
brain. I have found the culprit as soon as I run a tar command to back up my
maildirs the free memory drops tp 14MB! I've upgraded to tar 1.14 and that
has made no difference, would I be better to change toa different method of
backup such as CPIO (although I have no idea how to use it!).




RE: Write access to samba shares

2005-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Use NFS - it lets you have groups and everything working as for a local file
system.

Otherwise look at making a can write to share1 group, then setting the
permisisons to 775 on mounting.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 11 April 2005 2:05 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Write access to samba shares


I have lines in my fstab which allows me full access to the samba shares on
my 
server but only read access for everyone else (I am user 1000)

//fish/share1 /mnt/fish1smbfs
username=guest,password=,uid=1000,gid=100   0 0

Can someone suggest a better line so that all users of this machine can have

write access to the same shares?

-- 
Robert Fisher
(aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
FishNet Computer Services
www.fisher.net.nz



Horse rebooting

2005-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Horse is confused again... seems theres a load average of about 16, and lots
of processes in uninterruptible sleep.

I've done a restart, but it hasn't come up.  I will check it out tonight.

Sorry about this.



OT: First dibs RE: OT - hp laser 6? anyone interested

2005-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Fair enough - it's a linux compatible item, so that makes it vaguely
on-topic.

Likewise, I have a jetdirect 170x unit that will go on trademe later in the
week, unless anyone emails me with an offer.

It's a single parallel port print server, and has a single 10baseT ethernet
port.  You put your parallel printer (laser, inkjet, dmp, whatever) on it,
and point your linux box at the IP address of the jetdirect, port 9100.

lpd works perfectly with it.  Unit comes with booklet and PSU and works
perfectly.

Make an offer.


-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 11 April 2005 4:19 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: OT - hp laser 6? anyone interested


HP 6P (i think) for sale

does duplexing for sale for @ $100

ph 322 9358

know this could/would be frowned upon but thought someone on list might be 
looking for a printer cheap.

apologies for any upsets.

 
-- 
Dave Lilley



OT: Dell PA-6 PSU.... anybody got one?

2005-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Title: Message



I'm on the 
scrounge. Does anyone have a Dell PA-6 power supply that I can do a short 
test with? 

Please emailme 
off list if you can help.


RE: BlueTooth, IrDa, Mobiles Linux, I'm making a bet.

2005-04-06 Thread C. Falconer
Dude - that's a PCI gigabit wired NIC.  

Its in the category Network - wireless  bluetooth



-Original Message-
From: IT Support NZ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 9:24 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: BlueTooth, IrDa, Mobiles  Linux, I'm making a bet.


further to last email .. there is also the following which may suit you even
better ...

DYNALINK PCI ETHERNET CARD OEM,NETNIC2,$18.00,Dynalink,NETWORK -
WIRELESS  BLUETOOTH, DYNALINK PCI GIGABIT ETHERNET
ADAPTOR,TG-3269,$29.00,Dynalink,NETWORK - WIRELESS  BLUETOOTH

You would need to check the linux support but I am looking at getting one
myself so can let you know how it goes.

Shane



-- 
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 5/04/2005



RE: Debian Newbie - network Q 'hard'

2005-04-05 Thread C. Falconer
localhost doesn't need a route to it in linux.

The device lo is 127.0.0.1, but the netmask is 255.0.0.0,
and the device responds to 127.*.*.*

horse:/tmp/cs/hsw4# ping 127.123.45.67 -c 1
PING 127.123.45.67 (127.123.45.67): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 127.123.45.67: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.2 ms
...

-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 5:13 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Debian Newbie - network Q 'hard'


Nick Rout wrote:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:24:40 +1200
Richard Tindall wrote:

  

Thanks for the pointers Nick. I'll keep exploring and report back any
success.



further: i realised where i could find a working debian box to ssh into 
and report that my wireless debian access point at home does not have a 
route for 127.0.0.0, but all other networking still works. therefore 
this appears to be a red herring.

same situation with horse (shell.clug.org.nz)

however both boxes have the destination entry in the 192.168 part of 
the routing table ending in a 0 - ie the network address.

Take a good hard look at /etc/network/interfaces - posting a copy might 
be a good idea.



  

This is from my mail server... debian sarge - not too up to date. About 
as simple as you can get. As for firewalls, just switch them off until 
you know things work!

Steve

mail:/etc/network# uname -a
Linux mail.greengecko.co.nz 2.6.8.1 #1 Fri Aug 20 00:13:09 NZST 2004 
i686 GNU/Linux

mail:~# route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
0.0.0.0 10.0.0.138  0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0

mail:~# ifconfig -a
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:44:66:FD:20
  inet addr:10.0.0.5  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::202:44ff:fe66:fd20/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:4114647 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:3120608 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:1844641144 (1.7 GiB)  TX bytes:1702035131 (1.5 GiB)
  Interrupt:17 Base address:0xdc00

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:300607 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:300607 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:267698626 (255.2 MiB)  TX bytes:267698626 (255.2 MiB)

sit0  Link encap:IPv6-in-IPv4
  NOARP  MTU:1480  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)

mail:/etc/network# cat interfaces
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)

# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 10.0.0.5
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 10.0.0.138

mail:/etc/network# lspci | grep Eth
:00:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

mail:/etc/network# lsmod | grep 8139 ( interesting - I wonder which 
one's in use! )
8139cp 19072  0
8139too23808  0
mii 4992  2 8139cp,8139too
crc32   4608  2 8139cp,8139too




RE: php search engine recommendation?

2005-04-04 Thread C. Falconer
A little form that searches:
http://www.google.co.nz/search?hl=enq= Search String  +site%3A
www.yoursite.com  btnG=Google+Searchmeta=

...is great - leverage the power of google (but its only as up to date as
the last trawl)



-Original Message-
From: Ian Laurenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 April 2005 8:40 a.m.
To: clug
Subject: php search engine recommendation?


I am putting together a wiki, in DokuWiki format, about writing macros in
OpenOffice.org. The wiki is currently about 22mb of text files (and
growing).

My problem is that the included search engine takes 5 minutes to do a
typical search! I have googled and there appear to be a number of php search
engines such as Sasquatch2. Does anyone have any recommendations?

I am trying to get the site ready prior to a conference on the 18 April, and
the current slow speed of the search, would I think, make the wiki not as
useful as it could/should be. I have not made the wiki publicly available
yet, as I want first impressions to be at least semi favourable.

Thanks, Ian



RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread C. Falconer
Why not Steve?

IBM made PS/2 models that were XTs and 286s with PS/2 keyboards.  (hence the
name)

I'd buy a dozen if I liked them, but I prefer the compaq ones now.  Its just
whatever you're used to.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 11:30 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI


On Mon, April 4, 2005 11:01 am, Chris Downie said:
 Last year there was a discussion on the merits of various keyboards. 
 Several listers were extolling the virtues of the old IBM 'clicky' 
 keyboard. There is a trader on Trade Me offering brand new ones for 
 sale here:
 http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/0002-0362-0116-/auction-25036912.htm

with a ps/2 connector? I don't think so.




RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread C. Falconer
I considered pulling the young kids these days line but you've all seen it
before.

Anyway - it doesn't often damage things... unless you're using a compaq
anymodel or anything vaguely like a server class machine.

Just remember - in another 10 years it'll be wireless sometechnology, and
this USB stuff that needs Actual Physical Work will be laughed at too :)

...and the model M will still be working...

-Original Message-
From: Michael JasonSmith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 12:02 p.m.
To: linux users
Subject: RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI


On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 11:39 +1200, C. Falconer wrote:
 Why not Steve?
rant
The PS/2 plug is the work of El Diablo. It is a round plug -
like a RCA, RF or 3.5mm mini-pin. However, unlike those plugs,
there is only one way to plug in a PS/2 plug, which is not easy
to do as the socket is
  * At the rear of the computer,
  * In the dark (under a desk),
  * On the floor, and
  * Next to an identical socket that under NO CIRCUMSTANCES
should you plug it in to.
For convenience, the two PS/2 sockets are colour coded so you
can tell them apart if the machine was not in the dark under a
cramped desk! Then, just for giggles, if you plug-in or unplug
your keyboard while the machine is going, then you run the risk
for frying the computer!
/rant

USB keyboards are a lot better than PS/2 keyboards. They are easier to plug
in, you can use any of the USB sockets on your machine, and you can plug it
in or unplug it while the machine is going without damaging anything!

-- 
Michael JasonSmith  http://www.ldots.org/





RE: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI

2005-04-03 Thread C. Falconer
I challenge you to calculate the number of keypresses it has had in its
life.  

Bonus marks for calculating a percentage for each OS it was ever plugged
into.


-Original Message-
From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 12:55 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT: IBM 'Clicky' Keyboard FYI


C. Falconer wrote:

 Just remember - in another 10 years it'll be wireless sometechnology, 
 and this USB stuff that needs Actual Physical Work will be laughed at 
 too :)
 
 ...and the model M will still be working...

Sadly, my model M developed an intermittent fault where some keys are 
simply not registered. Took it apart (not quite as easy as it sounds) 
and resoldered the joints, but no luck. Every so often, some keys simply 
cease registering.

A sad day. My faith in the Model M's has been shaken.

Cheers,
Carl.



RE: Baycorpadvantage imposes MS Explorer hegemony

2005-04-03 Thread C. Falconer
Can't try it sorry  Whats your username and password?


-Original Message-
From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 4 April 2005 5:02 p.m.
To: CLUG mailing list
Subject: Baycorpadvantage imposes MS Explorer hegemony


I have just signed up to the credit reference company Baycorpadvatage.

In windows on Mozilla Firefox I attempted to log in. The javascript drop
down 
menu failed to work. By downloading and searching through the js files I was

able to find the link.

Once logged in I attempted to access the services but the server informed me

that I was unable to access them.

I called the help desk. Their response was that we only support Microsoft 
Internet Explorer. It works in Explorer. If I wanted to use their services

I would have to use Internet Explorer. What about people on Mac's I asked? 
They have to use Internet Explorer was the reply.

I asked if I used internet Explorer and got a virus would I be indemnified?
No was the answer.

Cheers Ross Drummond

https://services.nz.baycorpadvantage.com/cgi/main



RE: [Tenuous] Website design tips... please

2005-03-30 Thread C. Falconer
The only thing I'd comment on is

The global network for Diamond Harmour?

Surely you should be a .net.nz ?


-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 30 March 2005 9:06 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: [Tenuous] Website design tips... please


Me and the boss've taken over the community website for Diamond Harbour, 
and have completely rebuilt it. The thing is, between us, we're a bit 
short on any kind of artistic knowledge ( and, in my case, talent ).

Here's the tenuous bit. The whole site is run using the etomite cms ( 
http://etomite.org ), and all software used to generate everything on 
the site is open source. The banner image is 12 stitched together with 
hugin, and the colour balance fixed with enblend ( both 
http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/... and thanks for the pointers 
Chris ), than scaled down from the 10,000 pixel wide result to something 
that fits onto a screen with convert. We even got up the gondola half 
price to get the piccies in the first place - good blag! The Weather 
image is info taken from the metar info on the noaa site decoded with 
some php wot I wrote ( it's a really good scripting language as well, 
you know ), and then embedded into a webcam image ( ftp'd from the 
camera ) using convert again. Even the camera is OSS, with a 48mm 
polarising filter gaffer taped onto the end of a 30mm lens! Server is 
LAMP based. I also use bbclone ( .de ) to monitor the page hits ( which 
are mainly search engines at the moment! ).

Can anyone give any constructive advice - my skin's pretty thick - on 
how to make it look better? I've got versions with menu bars across the 
top ( selected in bold doesn't work as the options then keep moving cos 
it's wider... ) instead of down the side, all kinds of permutations like 
that. But I think the real problem is that we know nothing about colour 
theory, and it won't take too much effort from a knowledgeable type to 
get the fonts the right colour, size, font...

Any takers? We've done all this for nothing, others have donated the 
webspace, and so on. All suggestions would be gratefully received - 
including how to promote it better, although I think/hope that may just 
be a matter of time?

Cheers,


Steve

http://www.diamondharbour.net http://www.diamondharbour.net/bbclone



RE: Dual Network/Internet Connection - Advanced Routing

2005-03-30 Thread C. Falconer
M0n0wall does lots of good stuff,  but it does not do two WAN (aka red)
connections.

You can bridge or route all sorts of stuff, but only one default route to
the internet is supported.

You could look at pfsense which is a development of m0n0wall... Its been on
FreeBSD since it forked, and definitely supports multiple wans and load
balancing.
http://pfsense.org/index.php?id=26

Unf it needs more than an 8 Mb CF card... You're looking at a 128 Mb CF card
or a hard drive.

http://pfsense.org/

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2005 10:20 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Dual Network/Internet Connection - Advanced Routing


actually i just thought you might want to take a look at monowall, its BSD
based and from a very quick look at it the other day it might be flexible
enough for this.

Translation, you will have to do more work :-)


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 09:59:33 +1200
Kim Robertson wrote:

 Hi Robert,
 I was originally using IPCop but trying to get the equivalent to two
 red interfaces was to difficult.
 I want the full firewall on both connections. If you can work out a way 
 to use IPCop that would be great, but I think to make it easier  I will 
 stick with slackware.
 



RE: Dual Network/Internet Connection - Advanced Routing

2005-03-30 Thread C. Falconer
Maybe its that, but I'm guessing that its two distinct networks sharing one
internet connection Maybe a couple of flatmates or something.

Rather than being on the same lan, they're wanting to segment it tidily.

-Original Message-
From: Gareth Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2005 2:38 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Dual Network/Internet Connection - Advanced Routing


On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:52:54 +1200, Kim Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am trying to do one internet connection and two private lans, but 
 there is some crap ie viruses etc on one lan and I don't want that 
 to come through easily. Therefore I want to have one commection for my 
 private local lan, one for the unsecure lan and one for the internet.

You know, that almost sounds like you only have *one* unsecured lan that you
don't want to be able to contact the other one (except in circumstances you
specify), but not vice versa. ie. you don't want your bad lan to be able
to contact your good lan, but would you care if your good lan was able
to contact the bad lan? (and they're both firewalled from the net).

Because the way I read your description above, it sounds like a stock
standard DMZ setup. You can do it out-of-the-box with IPCOP, just put your
good lan on green, public internet on red, and your bad lan with the
crap on orange, the DMZ. No?

Just checkin the problem isn't simpler than people are assuming :-)

Cheers,
Gareth



RE: Dual Network/Internet Connection - Advanced Routing

2005-03-30 Thread C. Falconer
M0n0wall would be perfect for what you want.

  {internet}
  |
 [ firewall ]-{one network}
  |
{another network}

And the two networks can only see what you allow to pass through.  This
setup is identical to how horse the CLUG shell server is configured.

Kim - check out www.m0n0.ch/wall/ and explore.  If you want to see one in
action email me.




-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2005 12:09 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Dual Network/Internet Connection - Advanced Routing



On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 11:52:54 +1200
Kim Robertson wrote:
 I am trying to do one internet connection and two private lans, but
 there is some crap ie viruses etc on one lan and I don't want that to 
 come through easily. Therefore I want to have one commection for my 
 private local lan, one for the unsecure lan and one for the internet.

Stop reinventing the wheel, fix the root cause of the problem, ie the
viruses!

So what you basically want is an ipcop box with two green interfaces and
one red interface, with the two greens isolated from each other.

Now IPCOP does not do this out of the box, but I think (again subject to
correction by CraigF ) that m0n0wall might.

Craig's earlier response was based on him thinking you wanted two
connections to the internet with differentiated routing based on destination
i address, but thats NOT what you want, so lets see what he has to say about
the clarified situation.


RE: problem with isa sound card

2005-03-30 Thread C. Falconer
Check your bios settings for IRQ, and your dmesg on boot for any errors.
Cat /proc/interrupts  too to see if theres anything amiss.

Failing that, get a PCI card :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 31 March 2005 12:37 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: problem with isa sound card


Sounds like a skipping record, searched google which says it is due to 
interrupt problem but am unsure of how to fix. Using Suse 8.2  
 
Any suggestions appreciated.



RE: internet performance...

2005-03-22 Thread C. Falconer
Of course it doesn't help that it's a fairly bust 256 K connection serving
several web sites as well as the clug server.


-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2005 9:40 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: internet performance...


On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 09:20, Steve Holdoway wrote:
 On Wed, March 23, 2005 9:05 am, Christopher Sawtell said:
  On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:29, Steve Holdoway wrote:
  I'm over here in telstraclear land, and I seem to be getting really 
  bad performance this morning. ssh sessions locking up, http pages 
  hanging, that kind of thing.
 
  Can't find any reason - even rebooted the ipcop firewall in 
  desperation.
 
  Is it just me???
 
  No, Ping times across the local T/C seem very slow today and drops 
  packets.

 [snip]

 I think you might find that the dropped packets reported are caused by 
 those  sent before ^C was sent, but hadn't returned.

 Do you get the same results with ping -c 10 ?
More or less.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ping -c 10 shell.clug.org.nz
PING shell.clug.org.nz (202.0.42.116) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=1200

ms
64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=1197

ms
64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=3 ttl=63 time=914
ms 64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=4 ttl=63
time=915 ms 64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=5
ttl=63 time=1464 
ms
64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=6 ttl=63 time=1367

ms
64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=7 ttl=63 time=1714

ms
64 bytes from criggie.dyndns.org (202.0.42.116): icmp_seq=9 ttl=63 time=1984

ms

--- shell.clug.org.nz ping statistics ---
10 packets transmitted, 8 received, 20% packet loss, time 9003ms rtt
min/avg/max/mdev = 914.023/1344.735/1984.523/348.794 ms, pipe 2

Web surfing to overseas sites seems to be ok now.

--
C. S.



RE: Almost free to a good home

2005-03-22 Thread C. Falconer
Another printer up for snags... one Apple Select 360 Laser.  Works
perfectly, but the toner is almost out.

It has a parallel port input.  Email me back off list please.




RE: PC Sellers WAS Duelling Mice was Re: Howl!!! Urgent advice needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux

2005-03-21 Thread C. Falconer
Yeah - we as end customers drive some retailers into the floor, simply by
trying to save every last dollar on the purchase price.

Even BCL (http://www.bcl.co.nz/) went the cheap cheap PC road, and hit the
wall after 31 years of trading.




-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 21 March 2005 10:36 p.m.
To: clug
Subject: Re: PC Sellers WAS Duelling Mice was Re: Howl!!! Urgent advice
needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux


On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 17:09 +1200, John Carter wrote:
 First notable is ComputerFuture and ComputerBroker seems to have 
 merged.

IIRC the Computer Broker started in his garage in Westmoreland, I bought RAM
from him for a 486, when the 486 was not too old. [1]

He then moved into town and started selling new gear, metamorphosed into
Computer Future.

Spun off the Computer Broker to specialise in second hand gear - mainly
ex-lease.

Now moved them back into the fold.

BTW I noticed recently that the PC Practice in Fitzgerald Ave has shut down.
I hope no one has been stuck with warranty grief. Those guys grew quickly
and were very competitively priced at times. When will people learn that you
cannot compete on volume alone, the % rate of warranty return will be the
same no matter whether you sell 10,000 units at $50 gross profit or 5,000
units at $100.00 gross profit.

[1] I bought a hard drive from PC's Unlimited for the same box to make room
for W95. *The Shame* . I guess that means that both those retailers have
been around for the thick end of 10 years.
-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)

2005-03-21 Thread C. Falconer
I can volunteer a 386 DX 25 with 10 Mb ram and two 1Gb scsi drives and 100
Mbit isa ethernet and an ISA ET4000 video card.

-grin-

-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2005 1:57 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)


A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage
[1] to have gentoo installed.[2]

I have it on good authority that we should have access to the 2005.0 release
in time to do this on Saturday 9 April. So, can we have some confirmation of
who will be coming for an install. So far I can recall (without wading thru
the entire archives):

Robert Himmelman
Dave (gevad at orcon)
Shane Hollis (?)
Xhen (xhen at paradise)
Lance Blackler

(sorry some people don't use their full name when posting)

There may be others interested?

Those that do want to come, please post the architecture of your machine, ie
what sort of processor. Some basic specs (Ram, spare HD space, cpu speed)
would be good too as I don't want to have 10 pentium one's turn up on the
day :) [3]


[1] This is Robert's new garage, large and comfortable, as opposed to the
more cramped version last year. This time we will be able to swing a cat,
although we may need to BYO cat.

[2] thread started here http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0501/msg00800.html

[3] There shouldn't be too many machines that would be completely unsuitable
for some form of gentoo installation, but I don't want to waste people's
time either.

-- 
Nick Rout




Naming RE: web page broken

2005-03-16 Thread C. Falconer
And we really need to solve this identity crisis...

Is the group called Canterbury LUG or Christchurch LUG ?

Which members are in Canterbury but not Christchurch?


-Original Message-
From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2005 5:17 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: web page broken


Nick Rout wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 13:33 +1300, Derek Smithies wrote:
Who controls the page at http://christchurch.lug.net.nz/
It seems to be broken.
 
 Jolly good question. If you can contact Bjorn, please let us know.

I do not control the site, but I do control the webserver it runs on. I 
could just change the whole thing to a redirect ... this would be a bad 
thing if Bjorn was contactable, and didn't know what I was doing.

However, does anyone know Drew Whittle from Dunedin? He controls 
lug.net.nz, and therefore the DNS resolution of christchurch.lug.net.nz. 
It would be better to just get DNS redirected to the same place as 
clug.net.nz.

If no-one admits to knowing anyone, I'll take up the task of poinging 
everything to the wiki, which was the intention at the end of last year.

-jim



RE: Configurating Samba

2005-03-16 Thread C. Falconer
Post your smb.conf file and we'll see what you need.

BTW - did you format that paragraph like that on purpose?  Or was it an
accident?

-Original Message-
From: Bryan Frechette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 5:05 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Configurating Samba


Hi, i would like to know how to configurate a samba service to be able 
to use my samba server as a dump to dump file from my network, i would 
apreciate the info, if need i will provide the begining of my smb.conf 
file, cause i have no clue how to get it to work on my windows network

Bryan Frechette



RE: No ethernet access

2005-03-15 Thread C. Falconer
Awww go on... We'll award you the wooden spoon award for...  missing the
obvious

Mind you - if it was really obvious we all missed suggesting it too...


(makes note) take a bunch of wooden spoons to next meeting

-Original Message-
From: Douglas Royds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2005 9:56 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: No ethernet access


Sorted.

Too embarassed to admit what the problem was. Just don't ask.

Douglas.










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RE: Linux Scanner Support

2005-03-14 Thread C. Falconer
The HP 7400 series is not very nice... Neither scsi nor USB work with sane.


-Original Message-
From: Jason Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 14 March 2005 3:28 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Linux Scanner Support


I have checked the SANE page and these models:

Epson Expression 1680 USB Scanner
CanoScan LiDE20
HP ScanJet 7450c

look well supported. Anyone have first hand experience with any of them?

Cheers

Jason



RE: Advice on 8MB Graphics card

2005-03-14 Thread C. Falconer
Fork out for a new one... 

Even if you had more video ram it'd still be about the same speed.
Or maybe its time for a new CPU/motherboard too.

Do you play games?

-Original Message-
From: Wesley Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 14 March 2005 11:16 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Advice on 8MB Graphics card


Is it possible to get a memory upgrade on this clunky thing that's starting
to 
get slower and slower and Linux gets more and more loaded with graphics 
goodies?  (A.K.A. bloated.)

Card is:
nVidia Vanta Riva TNT2, with a paltry 8 MB RAM.

Or should I fork out for a new graphics card?



RE: Howl!!! Urgent advice needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux

2005-03-14 Thread C. Falconer
You should probably be looking more at your chair and desk, and how the
computer is laid out on the desk rather than how the keyboard/mouse plug in.

Are the keyboard/mouse cables the cause of the pain?



-Original Message-
From: John Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 3:16 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Howl!!! Urgent advice needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux


My shoulder hurts like mad I can hardly type! So I'm looking for a 
wireless keyboard / mouse pair (for Linux) to give me a bit more freedom 
of movement.

Any suggestions?

I see Noel Leeming has a $78 deal on a Genius Twintouch 16e. Anybody have 
one of those working on Linux?




John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Zealand

Refactorers do it a little better every time.



RE: Howl!!! Urgent advice needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux

2005-03-14 Thread C. Falconer
All is rather overstated.

Swmbo has a cordless mouse and keybaord that have been on the same set of
batteries since November last year...  So that's four months use and
counting.  And its an optical mouse too!

I don't think three sets of batteries a year is gobbling.  Maybe you had an
older model?

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 March 2005 4:08 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Howl!!! Urgent advice needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux

All wireless keyboards and mice gobble up batteries as if they are getting 
ready for a famine.



Wireless in the square

2005-03-13 Thread C. Falconer
Don't forget to factor in the cost of a resource consent from the regional
council, plus whatever fees the city council wants to stick you for.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Devine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2005 7:38 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Free to a good home


On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 21:15:00 +1300 (NZDT), Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
 Now we are talking, i'd like to help sort out a community wireless 
 network going in the central city.
 
 *sigh* sitting in victoria square with wireless access sounds like 
 fun.
 
Me and two friends are currently planning to offer free/cheap internet in
the square. I will reply to the list when this is finished.
-- 
--Ben Devine



RE: Wireless in the square

2005-03-13 Thread C. Falconer
Uhhh - thanks... I think...

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 14 March 2005 10:06 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Wireless in the square


On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:49, you wrote:
 Don't forget to factor in the cost of a resource consent from the 
 regional council, plus whatever fees the city council wants to stick 
 you for.

That is so like The Man.



RE: Wireless in the square

2005-03-13 Thread C. Falconer
From: Nick Rout
 On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:05:57 +1300 Andrew Errington wrote:
  That is so like The Man.
 now playing:  School of Rock

A movie definitely worth watching.



RE: Server down?

2005-03-07 Thread C. Falconer
Yes - it's a shell box, and you can host a web page there too if you want.

The web page is at http://shell.canterbury.lug.net.nz/ 

Users can do basically anything within reason...  Testing your own firewalls
from the outside, and comparing traceroutes.  Unfortunately I'm still on
cable, so a lot of NZ traffic seems to be routed via LA and sydney cos of
the depeering.

Any CLUG member can have an account, for the asking.


-Original Message-
From: Robert Himmelmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 7 March 2005 7:22 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Server down?


 From what I read in the messages before horse seems to be an 
ssh-terminal-server. Is that right and is ther any website about it?

Happy Hacking,
Robert Himmelmann

A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody 
wants to read.
  -- Mark Twain

To be is to do.
  -- I. Kant
To do is to be.
  -- A. Sartre
Yabba-Dabba-Doo!
  -- F. Flinstone



RE: Server down?

2005-03-07 Thread C. Falconer
Python is definitely installed - python and python2.3

Java is being installed now...  

-Original Message-
From: Robert Himmelmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2005 3:08 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Server down?


Did you install Java or Python? I would certainly like an account. I 
like playing around with networks but that is very difficult if you have 
only one box.

Any CLUG member can have an account, for the asking.

-- 
Happy Hacking,
Robert Himmelmann

A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody 
wants to read.
  -- Mark Twain

To be is to do.
  -- I. Kant
To do is to be.
  -- A. Sartre
Yabba-Dabba-Doo!
  -- F. Flinstone



RE: Server down?

2005-03-06 Thread C. Falconer
It was, but its been up since about 1400 Sunday


-Original Message-
From: Shane Hollis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 7 March 2005 5:34 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Server down?


I read somewhere the 'horse'??? Server is down. Is that the one you have on
the net that some of you guys use? Is it down?  

Shane
-Original Message-
From: Robert Fisher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 5 March 2005 10:46 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: gentoo iso

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 18:12, Nick Rout wrote:
 it won't be far away, in fact: Robert, tell us what dates suit you,
 its your garage!

Probably any weekend except Easter.

 PS have you got your beer fridge back? I am sure we will need it!

Yes, it was the first appliance we shifted in.

--
Robert Fisher
(aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish)
www.fisher.net.nz







RE: Horse dead

2005-03-03 Thread C. Falconer
I'm on the road to resurrecting the horse.  I've now acquired a dual PII 350
which will do the job nicely.  All the user accounts will be restored in due
course.  (a horse is a horse of course of course!)

For those who care - the new box is a generic PC motherboard rather than a
custom compaq job.  It has 256 Mb ram and a single 9 Gb UW scsi drive (maybe
more later)  I cannot reuse any of the drives from the old horse cos they're
all 80 pin SCA.

-Original Message-
From: C. Falconer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 1:59 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: Horse dead


-grin-

Its definitely dead.  When I have a chance I will make up another machine
and restore the backups (yes there were backups)

Or if anyone has some magic smoke that I can install then that would help
too :)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Bähr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 1:08 p.m.
To: C. Falconer
Cc: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Horse dead


On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:18:48AM +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
 Something seems to have killed horse in a terminal way.  I'll look
 into it more tonight after work and let you all know whats happening.

well? what's the status with that?
just don't flog it, ok?

greetings, martin.
-- 
offering experience: sTeam, caudium, pike, roxen and unix sysadmin
  doing: programming, training and administration. anywhere in the world
--
pike programmer   travelling and working in europeopen-steam.org
unix system-  bahai.or.at   iaeste.(tuwien.ac|or).at
administrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).org  is.schon.org
Martin Bähr   http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/



Dual video cards

2005-03-01 Thread C. Falconer
I'm having massive weirdness with two video cards under X.

The cards are
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2
MX 100 DDR/200 DDR] (rev b2)
:03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP
(rev 85)

The nvidia is about three years old, and is AGP.  The matrox is a dual-head
G450 and is a PCI device, despite what it says here. 

When I start X with the XF86config file referenced at
http://staff.avonside.school.nz/cf/XF86Config-4
I get a long wait, then lines like

Screen 0 shares mem  io 
Screen 1 shares mem  io 
Screen 2 shares mem  io 

I can run the nvidia on its own fine.  I used to have a single port Matrox
2064 PCI card that worked fine in dual head with the nvidia.

Anyone got any advice?  Google is kinda helpful in a... MS kinda relevance
way :-\



RE: Dual video cards

2005-03-01 Thread C. Falconer
Well that's all fixed. 

Turns out that I had several issues...

xinerama simply will not play nicely between my cards
The nvidia X module doesn't play nice with the dual head matrox
The rivafb module doesn't want to cooperate with the nvidia module
The Matrox drivers (open source) help to a point
And the G400 card needs a fairly hefty DVI/VGA adapter that managed to come
adrift at some point in the procedings (yeah - it wasn't plugged in
right)

And I suspect a lot of my issues were caused by this new PCI-PCI bridge that
appears to be on the Matrox G400 card.

:02:0a.0 PCI bridge: Hint Corp HB6 Universal PCI-PCI bridge
(non-transparent mode) (rev 15)
:03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP
(rev 85)

I'm mostly replying to myself to confirm that there is intelligent life out
there, and to record the answer somewhere on the web.

Below is the working (now) XF86config file.



-Original Message-
From: C. Falconer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2005 11:14 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Dual video cards


I'm having massive weirdness with two video cards under X.

The cards are
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2
MX 100 DDR/200 DDR] (rev b2) :03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox
Graphics, Inc. MGA G400 AGP (rev 85)

The nvidia is about three years old, and is AGP.  The matrox is a dual-head
G450 and is a PCI device, despite what it says here. 

When I start X with the XF86config file referenced at
http://staff.avonside.school.nz/cf/XF86Config-4
I get a long wait, then lines like

Screen 0 shares mem  io 
Screen 1 shares mem  io 
Screen 2 shares mem  io 

I can run the nvidia on its own fine.  I used to have a single port Matrox
2064 PCI card that worked fine in dual head with the nvidia.

Anyone got any advice?  Google is kinda helpful in a... MS kinda relevance
way :-\


XF86Config-4
Description: Binary data


RE: Hello and a question re IP Accounting statistics

2005-02-24 Thread C. Falconer
Heya Shane.

We use a combination of methods to limit access.

Firstly, install an ident server on each workstation, and configure squid to
do ident lookups.  This will put the current username in the logs.

Then install an app called sarg  http://sarg.sourceforge.net/sarg.php which
will produce summaries based on top user, top site accessed, etc on a daily
basis.  
Email me if you want a look at the pages produced.

If the users only need to go to a limited range of web pages then consider
dropping all other sites using ACLs or squidGuard.



-Original Message-
From: Shane Hollis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 25 February 2005 11:56 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Hello and a question re IP Accounting statistics

One of our clients had a huge Internet blow out last month. We have IP Cop
in place running Squid, with logs turned on and no holes in the fire wall. I
know internally we are not virused and there is no malware / spyware
present. Their normal usage is between 4 and 6 Gb per month, last month was
a massive 15GB. blow out. 

Using IP Cop I can see what days we did most of the traffic. Squid tells me
who went where, the traffic charts show me the speed we did stuff at but
there is no where I can find any way of getting what IP address did how much
traffic and when. 

I have been looking at a few products to remedy this and am tightening the
firewall to stop stuff going out, as well as in now. Trust in the workers to
use the system properly suddenly evaporated in the managers minds so they
want some IP traffic accounting put in place to see who is using how much
and when and why.

Any ideas on what is the best way to log this kind of traffic volume by
individual lan ip address or user log on, especially using IP Cop. At
present the best option seems to be putting yet another computer in place
that uses a traffic counter and accounting. 

If you know of something with logging, throttling by volume and or mail
alerts it would be appreciated. 



RE: OpenOffice.org SI contact person

2005-02-22 Thread C. Falconer
Nope - it'll not happen because the software is free.

The whole MS/schools deal thing came around because the incumbent political
party want something to show hey we just spend $xx million on YOUR kids

They don't get the votes for helping give away free stuff.


-Original Message-
From: Warren Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2005 2:05 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org SI contact person


The MoE needs to do more to supply schools with OOo CD-ROMs and support the
uptake of open-source software. Perhaps they could negotiate a deal to get
star office + support and provide it free to schools along with the free
apple software and free Microsoft Software, It would also allow the
teachers to hand out OOo CD-ROMs to students so they can have the same
software (and same version of that
software) at home.

--Warren.


On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:42:17 +1300, Ian Laurenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 12:24, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
  On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:56, Carl Cerecke wrote:
   Ian Laurenson wrote:
I would really like to hear:
* What barriers you see that are preventing a greater uptake of 
OOo.
  
   The Ministry of Education spending millions of *our* money to give 
   schools MS Word for free. If schools had to pay for MS Word, they 
   would be fleeing to OOo in droves.
 
* Anything else you think I should know or do.
 
  Ask the Minister of Education why he blew that $30 million of our 
  money on m/s licences, and make sure the rest of NZ hears you ask 
  the question. I suspect you will get some evasive answer to the 
  effect that T. Mallard Esq. (sic) is no longer in charge of schools.
 
  For school use Solaris and OOo would be a far better and cheaper 
  option.  I suspect that Sun might equip a small country's schools 
  for free, The publicity would be worth umpteen million to them.
 
 I am working on getting such questions asked in the house. At the 
 moment I am pursuing this through my contacts with the Green Party. 
 Does anyone have other contacts, other suggestions (letters to the 
 editor perhaps?), to get this question being asked more pervasively?
 
 Thanks, Ian
 




RE: OpenOffice.org SI contact person

2005-02-22 Thread C. Falconer
Yes - the MOE supplied eTrust from computer associates.

Theres a folder on the CD called eAV.Lnx which contains a tar file of stuff.

From the Readme...
--
2.0  Operating System Support
Linux releases: Red Hat 6.2, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3;
SuSE 6.3, 6.4, 7.0, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3, 8.0
Turbo 6.0.2.
Solaris releases: 2.6, 7, and 8 (SunOS 5.6, 5.7, and 5.8, respectively).



3.0  System Requirements

The UNIX administrative server must have at least 85MB of free disk space.

Your browser must be running on a machine with an SVGA color monitor capable
of 800x600 resolution, 16-color minimum, 256-color preferred.

A TCP/IP network must be properly installed on your system.

---
Then it waffles on about apache.  I suspect it's an antivirus definitions
server, but not completely sure.  More news tomorrow.




-Original Message-
From: Warren Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 23 February 2005 4:16 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org SI contact person


I did a google search for mallard linux site:.nz
and found the a transcript of QA time at the Beehive.

from http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0312/S00130.htm

1. DAVID BENSON-POPE (Labour-Dunedin South) to the Minister of
Education: What steps have been taken to ensure that schools have ready
access to reliable anti-virus software?

Hon TREVOR MALLARD (Minister of Education): Free anti-virus software for
State and State-integrated schools will be available from the beginning of
next year. A large number of schools currently do not have quality
anti-virus software, leaving them exposed to virus attacks. Through the
provision of a common, high-quality anti-virus software package, at no cost
to the schools, the Government is protecting the investment schools are
making.

David Benson-Pope: How does this initiative fit within the Government's
wider strategy for promoting the use of information and communication
technology in schools?

Hon TREVOR MALLARD: As Maurice Williamson often tells me, ensuring our
children develop good information and communication technology skills is as
essential part of equipping them for life and work in the 21st century. I am
looking forward to Maurice Williamson getting back on that front bench.

Nandor Tanczos: Is the Minister aware that most viruses are designed to
attack the hegemonic proprietary software platform Microsoft, while
non-proprietary operating platforms, such as SuSE Linux, now meet
international security certification, and how will he protect the ability of
schools to choose open-source alternatives?

Hon TREVOR MALLARD: Quite a few schools use open-source software; that is
their right, and if they want to do that, that is fine. I am not aware of
the technical details, but my understanding is that a lot of the software
will support Linux as well as Microsoft.

--Warren.

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:33:23 +1300, Jason Greenwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Even though I do not agree with most of his views and lifestyle 
 choice, Tim Barnett MP is VERY receptive to new ideas. I have met with 
 him a few times...he knows who I am so name drop when you go see him. 
 I have 'softened him up' on the Open Source thing already for you. =)
 
 Cheers
 
 Jason Greenwood
 
 Ian Laurenson wrote:
  On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 12:24, Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 
 On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 11:56, Carl Cerecke wrote:
 
 Ian Laurenson wrote:
 
 I would really like to hear:
 * What barriers you see that are preventing a greater uptake of 
 OOo.
 
 The Ministry of Education spending millions of *our* money to give 
 schools MS Word for free. If schools had to pay for MS Word, they 
 would be fleeing to OOo in droves.
 
 * Anything else you think I should know or do.
 
 Ask the Minister of Education why he blew that $30 million of our 
 money on m/s licences, and make sure the rest of NZ hears you ask 
 the question. I suspect you will get some evasive answer to the 
 effect that T. Mallard Esq. (sic) is no longer in charge of schools.
 
 For school use Solaris and OOo would be a far better and cheaper 
 option.  I suspect that Sun might equip a small country's schools 
 for free, The publicity would be worth umpteen million to them.
 
 
  I am working on getting such questions asked in the house. At the 
  moment I am pursuing this through my contacts with the Green Party. 
  Does anyone have other contacts, other suggestions (letters to the 
  editor perhaps?), to get this question being asked more pervasively?
 
  Thanks, Ian
 
 
 
 




RE: Email ettiquette rant

2005-02-21 Thread C. Falconer
What if you as a retained lawyer send an email to a client at their
workplace?  Does the workplace have any ownership of the message?

Same question - client at home and their ISP.


-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 22 February 2005 9:57 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Email ettiquette rant



On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 09:39:29 +1300 (NZDT)
Philip Charles wrote:

 On Tue, 22 Feb 2005, Nick Rout wrote:
 
  And there is no doubt that they have legal effect. Some duties of 
  confidentiality depend on the person on whom you wish to impose a 
  duty having knowledge of the confidential nature of the information.
 
 Can such a notice impose a duty of confidentiality on me if it is sent 
 to me in error?  Other than good manners etc.

Yes, for example if I (as a lawyer) accidentally send a message to you
instead of my client (maybe he has  a similar name), and I make it clear
that it is in fact confidential, or if the nature of the communication is
obviously confidential, then yes you would have a duty not to splash it all
over the papers. (I could however get into trouble with my client and the
Law Society for breach of professional duty.)

Lawyers' clients are, of course, in a special position in regards to
communications to and from their lawyers, but there are other situations
where there are recognised duties of confidentiality. I am not going into a
legal treatise now on confidentiality. 

 
 Phil.
 
 --
   Philip Charles; 39a Paterson Street, Abbotsford, Dunedin, New Zealand
+64 3 488 2818Fax +64 3 488 2875Mobile 025 267 9420
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] - preferred.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   I sell GNU/Linux  GNU/Hurd CDs  DVDs.   See http://www.copyleft.co.nz

-- 
Nick Rout
Barrister  Solicitor
Christchurch
http://www.rout.co.nz
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Printer giveaways was RE: NEC scriptwriter superscript 610

2005-02-20 Thread C. Falconer
Likewise I have an A4 lexmark 4039 10+ to give away.  It worked perfectly
last time it was used, but there is no toner cartridge with it.

A recycled toner is $179 +GST, a new toner is $629.

It has a parallel port input only, but has a 500 page second paper tray and
a really big front panel screen.

Looks kinda like this (but with the extra tray not pictured)
http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x//finassistco/10r0.jpg

Free to good home - you come and pick it up.




-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, 20 February 2005 5:34 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: NEC scriptwriter superscript 610



Got a fore mentioned laser printer on offer.

anyone interested ???

-- 
Dave Lilley



RE: DSE XC3532 Laptop and Linux Compatability

2005-02-20 Thread C. Falconer
Download the latest knoppix, wander along to a shop and boot it.  I do
recommend asking permission from a sales type before inserting the CD.

If knoppix finds the equipment okay, then you can do it under linux somehow.
Otherwise you may need to look at bleeding edge drivers (ie, not in the
kernel) like madwifi, acx100 and so on.  They do generally work, but theres
often extra steps to go through after a kernel change.


-Original Message-
From: Brendan Greer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 19 February 2005 12:06 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: DSE XC3532 Laptop and Linux Compatability


Hi people

Does any one know where I can go to find out about linux on 
laptops?(Specifically compatability)

I have tried google and found this site 
http://www.linux-on-laptops.com.  Other than that I have not found much.

Here are the pages for the laptop in question
http://www.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A4000D%20Serieslangs=01
http://www.dse.co.nz/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/42166ab8042fca422740c0a87f9906e7
/Product/View/XC3532
It is an ASUS A4000D

It is not essential for every thing to work under linux but would be nice

Any help would be much apprecitaed.

Thanks people


Brendan Greer



RE: Home on a FAT partition

2005-02-20 Thread C. Falconer
Yes - it's a very bad idea.

Mostly because FAT has no concept of permissions on a file.  That means that
your files are all owned by root (probably) and will all be mode 777.  You
can't create pipes or any special files or symlinks on FAT either, so some
apps mysteriously fail.

UMSDOS was a filesystem that allowed permissions on FAT, but its just messy.

What I'd suggest is either putting all your files on a server that shares
via samba (for windows access) and via NFS for linux box access.

If that's not an option, then a fat partition can be mounted and accessed as
(say) /shared
Then when you boot windows it will show up as another drive letter or can
even be mounted as  c:\shared under XP


-Original Message-
From: Douglas Royds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 21 February 2005 11:57 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Home on a FAT partition


I successfully installed Ubuntu on Friday night. All went pretty smoothly.

I'm wondering about putting my entire home directory on a FAT partition, and

pointing Windows' My Documents folder at the same partition, so that
files, 
pictures etc. stored under one OS are seamlessly usable under the other.

Is this just a Very Bad Idea, fraught with terrible danger? I'm aware that I

would not be able to hibernate (suspend to disk) Windows, as that doesn't 
unmount the FAT partition. When Windows is restarted, it will simply ignore
any 
changes made by Linux in the meantime.

Also, I was unable to set up a FAT partition larger than about 500M using 
Parted. I want a 3G partition. What to do?





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RE: daily apt-get (auto download)

2005-02-20 Thread C. Falconer
My version...  One line from /etc/crontab

20 1*   *   *   root/usr/bin/apt-get update -qq 
/usr/bin/apt-get dist-upgrade -qq --download-only



RE: Linux experience with Canon CanoScan LiDE 20 scanner

2005-02-16 Thread C. Falconer
Also

Be very wary of printers that offer a long life drum with separate toner
bottle  The kyocera and brother lasers tend to get a grey cast on the page
after x0,000 pages, and look terrible.  

My advice is to hold onto those printers with standardised cartridges.  Most
of the HP series of lasers and inkjets have a fairly limited selection of
cartridges (ie, a no 45 black ink is used in 17 different HP inkjets.  As
for lasers - consider recycled toner cartridges.

Your LJ 4 would use the 98A or 98X cartridge (6,800 or 8,800 pages
respectively) (also known as an EP-E cartridge.  Pricing is $140 and $148
+GST, or a recycled one for $100 +GST.  That equates to 2.4 cents or 1.9
cents per page for new carts, or (assuming 5000 pages from a recycled
cartridge) 2.25 cents per page.  Paper costs between 1 and 2 cents per page
depending on if you buy cheap $5/ream or more expensive $10/ream paper.  In
addition you have the cost of power.

The drum is a component of the toner cartridge and is calculated in above.
The cost of a replacement fuser unit is several hundred dollars, but
generally these last for 100k to 200k pages.  I doubt you'd replace a fuser
if it ever dies, and I strongly doubt any home user would do 100k pages
(that's twelve toner cartridges replacements!)

Worst case analysis
6800 pages is 13.6 reams of A4 paper at $10, $136
One new 98A cart $157 Inc GST
Power $20 (total guess)
4.60 cents/page

Best case
8800 pages is 17.6 reams of A4 paper at $5, $88
One new 98X cart at $166.50 Inc GST
Power $25 (previous guess plus 20%)
3.1 cents/page


Back on topic - separate scanner and printer is always a great idea... That
way you can swap around and replace in the future without having unneeded
pieces.  However, if they're cheap enough initally then maybe its no big
deal.


-Original Message-
From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 8:39 a.m.
To: 'linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz'
Subject: RE: Linux experience with Canon CanoScan LiDE 20 scanner


Be very wary of running costs for LaserJet printers - typically more than 8
cents per page when you take both the toner and drum modules into account.

Regards,

Robert

 -Original Message-
From:   yuri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Wednesday, 16 February 2005 7:28 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject:Linux experience with Canon CanoScan LiDE 20 scanner

we have a sturdy old HP LaserJet 4 Plus with JetDirect that works like a
charm, she now wants a scanner so she can do her photocopying at home and
not pay 7c/page at the place she uses now.



RE: Horse dead

2005-02-14 Thread C. Falconer
-grin-

Its definitely dead.  When I have a chance I will make up another machine
and restore the backups (yes there were backups)

Or if anyone has some magic smoke that I can install then that would help
too :)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Bähr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 1:08 p.m.
To: C. Falconer
Cc: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Horse dead


On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 09:18:48AM +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
 Something seems to have killed horse in a terminal way.  I'll look 
 into it more tonight after work and let you all know whats happening.

well? what's the status with that?
just don't flog it, ok?

greetings, martin.
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Horse dead

2005-02-06 Thread C. Falconer
Something seems to have killed horse in a terminal way.  I'll look into it
more tonight after work and let you all know whats happening.



RE: 2nd hd HD and lappies

2005-02-03 Thread C. Falconer
You mean www.ezypc.co.nz

-Original Message-
From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2005 9:34 p.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: 2nd hd HD and lappies


just remembered .

Bloke called name escapes me (think chris) runs a computer recycling
business. had heaps of sound, networkcards PCI and some isa ($5 - $10) a few
HD (2 - 
10gig) and lappies p2  p3 from 300mhz - @900mhz prices from $400 up.

most of the stuff is 3 - 5 years behind current technology and he told me in

the time he´s been running he hasn´t sent 1 gram to the tip!!!

Lots of other odds and sods too.

his website isn´t much just a 1page info http://www.ezypc.com (i think it
is)

he is in the local yellow pages under computers sun heading recycling.

hope it´s of interest tosome here.


ps has ram too 
-- 
Dave Lilley



Damn windows passwords - SOLVED

2005-01-30 Thread C. Falconer
I have set up a new backup server here, and I'd managed to save a password
into XP's password list.  Unf the password was incorrect.  I searched
everywhere to find and remove the saved password from the XP box.   It no
longer saves them in pwl files in c:\windows.

In the end I had to run
rundll32.exe keymgr.dll, KRShowKeyMgr

to get a nice tidy window of saved passwords in XP.  And of course thats not
documented.

Relevance to linux?  the backup server is a celeron 466 with 1.1 Tb of disk
and runs linux.


Next problem is why nfs can't deal with 80 Gb files...  

suspenders:/belt/aghs-server/1# l
ls: 2005-01-28-Friday.bkf: Input/output error

-rw-r--r--  1 nobody nogroup 81393056768 Jan 29 13:02 2005-01-28-Friday.bkf

...but thats another day



RE: USB 2.0 IDE Cartridge drive

2005-01-30 Thread C. Falconer
Yeah - they're very good.  Most laptop drives can be powered fine from a USB
port (my 10 Gb hitachi works fine) 

However I could not power it from an unpowered USB hub, even with nothing
else in the hub.  The answer was to plug the drive directly into a USB port
on the machine.

And even a 2 Gb laptop drive puts those USB keydrives to shame for size :)


-Original Message-
From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 2:07 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: USB 2.0 IDE Cartridge drive


Vik Olliver wrote:
 I dunno, I bought the thing with a 3 1/2 enclosure and PSU for less 
 than that. NZ$48 inclusive from Easycomm if I recall correctly.

Flashcards are shipping a 2.5 USB2 drive enclosure for around $26 at 
the moment, I've just bought a couple for running backups :-)
http://www.flashcards.co.nz/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=55_67products_id
=179

No power needed, although if you want (suggested for long data 
transfers) you can string on a second USB cable (supplied), that's used 
only for power.

-jim



RE: Damn windows passwords - SOLVED

2005-01-30 Thread C. Falconer
Yeah - its just for me to use, not for public consumption.

Its four 300 (okay, 287 Gb) drives in a raid0.  I also have weekly tape
backups as an off-site.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 3:49 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Damn windows passwords - SOLVED


Hi Craig,

I've done it the other way 'round... got my backup server authenticating to
a windows 2003 AS server. It's not perfect - I don't think that there's any
checking - but username and groups are preserved as
Domain+login.name:Domain+Domain Users, so samba is part way there.

It's not the best of solutions, but out here I'm under the odd constraint!
The end goal is to validate everyone aganist the Active Directory entries,
now that Billy boy has published a standard ldap access mechanism ( cough
cough ).

Does it work any better through samba? As my disks aren't even 80GB, I can't
comment on your nfs problem!

Cheers,

Steve

On Mon, January 31, 2005 1:29 pm, C. Falconer said:
 I have set up a new backup server here, and I'd managed to save a 
 password into XP's password list.  Unf the password was incorrect.  I
searched
 everywhere to find and remove the saved password from the XP box.   It no
 longer saves them in pwl files in c:\windows.

 In the end I had to run
 rundll32.exe keymgr.dll, KRShowKeyMgr

 to get a nice tidy window of saved passwords in XP.  And of course 
 thats not documented.

 Relevance to linux?  the backup server is a celeron 466 with 1.1 Tb of 
 disk and runs linux.


 Next problem is why nfs can't deal with 80 Gb files...

 suspenders:/belt/aghs-server/1# l
 ls: 2005-01-28-Friday.bkf: Input/output error

 -rw-r--r--  1 nobody nogroup 81393056768 Jan 29 13:02 
 2005-01-28-Friday.bkf

 ...but thats another day





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Vmware any-any patch, was RE: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-26 Thread C. Falconer
Awww you just suck   ;-)

I had this same issue when I went to 2.6.10 under Debian testing.  What you
need to do is patch the source to vmware with the any-any patch.

I have the latest version (88) at
http://staff.avonside.school.nz/cf/vmware-any-any-update88.tar.gz
Its 257 Kb, and it's a doddle to apply.


-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2005 5:10 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: VMWARE LUG offer ..


I don't know if this has been pointed out, but...

It doesn't run properly on any up-to-date kernel. That's debian with 
2.6.8 or 2.6.9, FC2 or FC3 with 2.6.10 ( That's 5 systems with these 3 
oses I've tried ). This is the real 4.5 Workstation I'm talking about. 
Falls over left and right, and I also had to install from an iso image 
of the cdrom, as it was reporting errors on 2 perfectly ok sets of RH3 
cds. That's all I've tested it on, but... I wasted a lot of time and 
energy trying to get it to work.

*not impressed* tm.



RE: Vmware any-any patch, was RE: VMWARE LUG offer ......

2005-01-26 Thread C. Falconer
Actually a local guru told me about it 

The original patch directory is here
ftp://platan.vc.cvut.cz/pub/vmware/

Some cool stuff like sleep util for dos VMs etc.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 27 January 2005 1:43 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Vmware any-any patch, was RE: VMWARE LUG offer ..


Looks like it's working better so far, thanks. But where's this patch come
from? I can't find a thing on the vmware.com site about it.

Cheers,

Steve

On Thu, January 27, 2005 9:18 am, C. Falconer said:
 Awww you just suck   ;-)

 I had this same issue when I went to 2.6.10 under Debian testing.  
 What you need to do is patch the source to vmware with the any-any 
 patch.

 I have the latest version (88) at 
 http://staff.avonside.school.nz/cf/vmware-any-any-update88.tar.gz
 Its 257 Kb, and it's a doddle to apply.


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, 26 January 2005 5:10 p.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: VMWARE LUG offer ..


 I don't know if this has been pointed out, but...

 It doesn't run properly on any up-to-date kernel. That's debian with 
 2.6.8 or 2.6.9, FC2 or FC3 with 2.6.10 ( That's 5 systems with these 3 
 oses I've tried ). This is the real 4.5 Workstation I'm talking about. 
 Falls over left and right, and I also had to install from an iso image 
 of the cdrom, as it was reporting errors on 2 perfectly ok sets of RH3 
 cds. That's all I've tested it on, but... I wasted a lot of time and 
 energy trying to get it to work.

 *not impressed* tm.




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SOT: Car Inverter

2005-01-20 Thread C. Falconer
I now own a 300 Watt 12V to 240V inverter.

If anyone has a desire to run their laptop in a car for long trips then
email me for a loan.

BTW SOT: Semi Off Topic - my laptop runs linux.





RE: SOT: Car Inverter

2005-01-20 Thread C. Falconer
Yep - and don't have it plugged in while cranking the engine... Seems that
the current available can be all over the place while the starter motor is
running.

I guess that's why some of the higher end stereos turn off momentarily when
the starter motor is going.

BTW - my laptop draws 24W while not charging and 33W while charging.  
I could run 11 laptops at once off this, or 9 charging laptops.



-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 2:44 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: SOT: Car Inverter
Importance: Low



On Fri, January 21, 2005 2:27 pm, C. Falconer said:
 I now own a 300 Watt 12V to 240V inverter.

 If anyone has a desire to run their laptop in a car for long trips 
 then email me for a loan.

 BTW SOT: Semi Off Topic - my laptop runs linux.




...mind you keep the engine running - that's a max 25A draw on the battery!

Steve

-- 
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RE: SOT: Car Inverter

2005-01-20 Thread C. Falconer
Yep - that's measured using a clamp meter on the mains voltage side of the
transformer.
Its only a P3 at 700, so lower power than a newer machine.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, 21 January 2005 3:50 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: SOT: Car Inverter


On 21/01/2005, at 2:57 PM, C. Falconer wrote:
 BTW - my laptop draws 24W while not charging and 33W while charging. I 
 could run 11 laptops at once off this, or 9 charging laptops.

Is that _measured_ consumption or what the manual/label on the  laptop 
says it should use? Also is this on the DC/laptop side of the power 
supplu, or the AC/mains side?

They seem quite low? My Powerbook maxs out at 45W on the AC mains side 
of the power supply (according to the probably-conservative label on 
it). So thats probably 30W used by the laptop, worst case.



RE: sed How do I replace whole word.

2005-01-18 Thread C. Falconer
Why the  \b  ?

echo apple cat dog |  sed s/cat/pussy/g
Works fine for me.

echo apple cat dog |  sed [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
echo apple cat dog |  sed s-cat-pussy-g
echo apple cat dog |  sed szcatzpussyzg

In fact almost any character can be used as long as its not in either
string.

-Original Message-
From: Ross Drummond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 18 January 2005 3:37 p.m.
To: CLUG mailing list
Subject: sed How do I replace whole word.


I am using sed, string replace.

How do I use this to find occurrences of a whole word such as cat without 
getting hits on words like cattle, which have the string cat embedded in the

word?

The info page suggests that;
sed -e s/\bcat\b/pussy/g
will work, but doesn't.

Cheers Ross Drummond



RE: sed How do I replace whole word.

2005-01-18 Thread C. Falconer
Ooops.

Judicious use of spaces would fix that, so I guess that \b is blank space

echo catastrophe | sed s/ cat / dog /g 


-Original Message-
From: Jim Cheetham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2005 9:22 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: sed How do I replace whole word.


C. Falconer wrote:
 Why the  \b  ?

So that echo catastrophe | sed s/cat/dog/g doesn't output dogastrophe

:-)

-jim



RE: IPCops good but...

2005-01-11 Thread C. Falconer
From: Wayne Rooney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:30, C. Falconer wrote:
 They could have chosen a less  Controversial name for it ;)

Freesco has been around longer than the SCO controversy.  The name Freesco
is 
a contraction of Free Cisco (router).

If it was mine - I'd be changing the name anyway...  Remember the crap
lindows went through over a name.




RE: TIP: What files does this command try to open (was Re: Changing UI fonts of commercial X11 apps)

2005-01-11 Thread C. Falconer
From: Matthew Gregan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Process A would is then forced to prepare the file descriptors before
 Oops; s/would //

Theres that damn sed syntax coming back again...



Spoiler RE: strace and easter eggs (was Re: TIP: What files does this command try to open (was ...))

2005-01-11 Thread C. Falconer
Alright - for those who can't figure it out...

socks:~# strace -p 26320
strace: I'm sorry, I can't let you do that, Dave.

(where 26320 was likely to be the next pid)



-Original Message-
From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2005 4:53 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: strace and easter eggs (was Re: TIP: What files does this
command try to open (was ...))


Michael wrote:
 I don't think this works in a vty or something. strace strace just 
 reveals
 the usual strace garbage.  Should I look harder at this?

Well, straceing another strace is OK. straceing yourself is not.

HINT: checkout the -p option.

Cheers,
Carl.



OT Horse activity summary

2005-01-10 Thread C. Falconer
For those who care - here's a summary of all the commands entered on horse.

Parameters were stripped off, so all pings are counted together.


ls  169 
w   67  
cd  61  
who 40  
exit30  
cat 30  
ps  26  
lynx24  
ping21  
nmap21  
dig 21  
df  21  
passwd  20  
ssh 19  
host19  
last18  
echo15  
mtr 14  
traceroute  12  
mc  12  
man 12  
uname   10  
top 10  
telnet  10  
less9   
~.  8   
vi  8   
screen  8   
mail8   
irc 8   
quit7   
logout  7   
ll  7   
uptime  6   
pwd 6   
more6   
irssi   6   
finger  6   
which   5   
ifconfig5   
clear   5   
wget4   
perl4   
mount   4   
locate  4   
l   4   
whois   3   
python  3   
nslookup3   
nano3   
links   3   
history 3   
apt-get 3   
apt-cache   3   
alias   3   
;;  3   
vim 2   
users   2   
type2   
svn 2   
su  2   
rm  2   
netstat 2   
mv  2   
mkdir   2   
mesg2   
kill2   
gcc 2   
dpkg2   
BitchX  2   
~w  1   
~   1   
ws  1   
who]1   
view1   
vdir1   
ulimit  1   
tio 1   
showtable   1   
shopt   1   
set 1   
quota   1   
q   1   
passwdw 1   
muse1   
motd1   
mirc1   
maroff  1   
linx1   
lastr   1   
jobs1   
ip  1   
id  1   
hostname1   
help1   
fuck1
ftp 1   
find1   
file1   
figner  1   
eixt1   
dir 1   
date1   
chsh1   
car 1   
arp 1   
;)  1   



RE: IPCops good but...

2005-01-10 Thread C. Falconer
They could have chosen a less  Controversial name for it ;)

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Rooney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:48 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: IPCops good but...


On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:55, C. Falconer wrote:
 m0n0wall


I use Freesco.  



RE: OT Horse activity summary

2005-01-10 Thread C. Falconer
I do wonder what a heavily used machine would turn up...

Anyone remember cantva and cantua ?


-Original Message-
From: Carl Cerecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 11:06 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT Horse activity summary


Nick Rout wrote:
 On Tue, 2005-01-11 at 10:40 +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote:
 
C. Falconer wrote:

For those who care - here's a summary of all the commands entered on 
horse.

There's a few f-words that have been tried once that I don't think are
commands. (At least, not on my system)
 
 
 find, ftp and file all work on my system :-)

OK.

s/a\ few/two/g

happy now?

Cheers,
Carl.



RE: OT Horse activity summary

2005-01-10 Thread C. Falconer
I'm quite prepared to offer the hardware a home :)

-Original Message-
From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:06 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT Horse activity summary


 Anyone remember cantva and cantua ?

Yep! Both still running, though cantua supposedly switched off a month ago.
cantva isn't going to disappear soon, it does all the mail handling and spam
filtering, though knowing the head of IT, he'd rather sooner than later
replace that VMS with some mickey box.

Volker

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me.



RE: OT Horse activity summary

2005-01-10 Thread C. Falconer
It's a sed string... Meaning is something like this

s   for search and replace
/   as a separator  (any char will do, but the one after s becomes the
separator)   
a\ few  string to search for  ( the backslash is to stop the shell from
separating the two words)
/   separator
two string to substitute
/   separator
g   global - don't stop on the first occurance in the line


man sed   for more info

-Original Message-
From: Rik Tindall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 12:51 p.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: OT Horse activity summary


Not wanting to be a pain, but...
Carl Cerecke wrote:

 Nick Rout wrote:
 s/a\ few/two/g

I won't be the only one wondering what to Google here.



RE: IPCops good but...

2005-01-09 Thread C. Falconer
m0n0wall

I know its not linux, but it's also not windows ;)

The distro is under 8 Mb, can boot off a CF/IDE adapter and supports all
sorts of cool router and VPN endpoint functions, as well as hostap mode for
wireless.

Its three big faults are no support for dialup (not necessarily a bad
thing), currently no support for wireless devices faster than 11 Mbit (prism
chipset only, not atheros) and no support for wan load balancing (that's the
red zone for you IP Coppers)

m0n0wall is based on FreeBSD 4.10 currently, and is soon to start moving to
5.x (which will fix the atheros support)

www.m0n0.ch/wall/ for more details

and it runs on soekris and wrap embedded machines as well as generic PCs.


-Original Message-
From: Andy George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 3 January 2005 10:50 a.m.
To: Linux Group
Subject: IPCops good but...


Experimenting with firewalls, tried the default IPTables, via a script, 
via Webmin, and played with a P200 being a firewall.  IPCop is really 
good, autodetects the USB Cable modem, the Ethernet card, sets up a 
heavy duty firewall between the two, and a default route, all the magic 
needed for a happy comms server.

What else do you guys play with?  Whats the popular firewall alternatives?


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RE: Cheap way to get into embedded linux

2005-01-09 Thread C. Falconer
Hmmm - how about this USB GPS?

http://www.efrontier.co.nz/dnn/[EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Andre Renaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 5 January 2005 8:34 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: RE: Cheap way to get into embedded linux


The PSU is a standard wallwart kind of plug pack - it puts out 7.5v dc @
100mA, so you'd probably need something in between this unit and a car power
supply. It doesn't have audio, although you could use a USB audio card.
However I think the CPU would be too underpowered for MP3 playback if that
is what you had in mind. Could play raw audio happily (I believe, haven't
actually got a USB audio card to confirm that).

Andre

On Mon, 2004-12-27 at 12:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote:
 Interesting - what do you intend to use it for?
 
 Whats the PSU?
 Does it have audio?
 How powerful is the CPU in effective terms?
 
 I'm thinking car computer btw :)
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Renaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, 23 December 2004 11:38 a.m.
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Cheap way to get into embedded linux
 
 
 If anyone out there is interested in having a look at running linux on 
 an embedded device, or making a cool linux gadget, there is a router 
 board for sale from DSE, the XH1151 ...
 



RE: Cheap way to get into embedded linux

2004-12-26 Thread C. Falconer
Interesting - what do you intend to use it for?

Whats the PSU?
Does it have audio?
How powerful is the CPU in effective terms?

I'm thinking car computer btw :)


-Original Message-
From: Andre Renaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 23 December 2004 11:38 a.m.
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Cheap way to get into embedded linux


If anyone out there is interested in having a look at running linux on an
embedded device, or making a cool linux gadget, there is a router board for
sale from DSE, the XH1151
...



RE: Lexmark z615 printer

2004-12-20 Thread C. Falconer
My lexmark works perfectly...

That said it's an 18 ppm laser with ethernet and postscript.  
You get what you pay for :)

Have you considered looking around for a used laser with ethernet?  HP 4
series at molten media for about $200 - but that's black only.


Brendan Greer wrote:
 hi people
 
 I have no expierence with printers on linux and am looking at getting 
 a lexmark z615 printer for $99 from the warehouse.
 
 I have looked for linux compatability for this printer on google and 
 the results give me no clear answer.
 
 There are fedora driver rpms on the lexmark website
 
 Can any one else dig up any information or know of any thing that may 
 help? I need to know will this work on linux mandrake 10
 
 Is it easy getting printers working on linux?



RE: smtp 450 error - what should happen at the sender's end?

2004-12-16 Thread C. Falconer
Maybe it's a pet name...

I have a bunch of aliases pointing to email addresses for users with hard to
spell names.

I mean - the boss' surname is Shaughnessy (and I did four typos while typing
it!) so I have about eight variants in /etc/aliases for her alone!
As well as principal@ and principle@


-Original Message-
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 17 December 2004 12:13 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: smtp 450 error - what should happen at the sender's end?


ok great answers thanks to both Daniel and Al.

I have done the alias thing for the moment and will see what happens when
xtra try again.

I will probably change the error code to 550 in due course. I must say I get
zillions of random three letter (and longer too) addresses being sent to.

The REALLY amusing thing here is that it is my secretary's sister sending
the email. can't even spell her sister's name LOL.


On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:03:33 +1300
Daniel Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  I see from my logs that someone has repeatedly sending
  mail to a non-existent user on my system (for once this is something 
  I actually want, not a piece of spam)
 
  How should the sending smtp server react to constant messages from 
  my smtp server to the effect that the message is rejected  :
 
  Dec 16 03:40:57 www postfix/smtpd[23914]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from 
  mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz[210.86.15.145]: 450
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in 
  local recipient table; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] proto=ESMTP helo=mta202-rme.xtra.co.nz
 
  the sender does not seem to have got any bounce or notification - 
  this started on Monday, its now friday and still going on.  --
  Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 FIRST:
 add an alias for the account they are trying to send to to
 an account locally, postalias, and accept the mail, if you really do 
 want to receive it, without making the sender send it again.
 
 
 A 450 indicates temporary failure on the part of *your* mail server.  
 Xtra will just keep trying to redeliver the mail until it expires or 
 you accept it.
 
 Comment out the
 unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 450
 line in postfix's main.cf (which is added by postfix from a
 1-2 upgrade from memory, and may be there in 2 by default),
 and restart postfix.
 
 Then do:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# postconf
 unknown_local_recipient_reject_code
 which should report back:
 unknown_local_recipient_reject_code = 550
 
 This will make the sending mail server not retry if the user can't be 
 identified.
 
 The other bonus will be Sober.I's infected hosts will get rejected 
 after they fail their first 20 wrong mail addresses (unless you've 
 changed smtpd_hard_error_limit).
 
 Regards
 
 Daniel

-- 
Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: smtp 450 error - what should happen at the sender's end?

2004-12-16 Thread C. Falconer
From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Maybe it's a pet name...
 LOL I don't do pet names on my mail server !

 I mean - the boss' surname is Shaughnessy (and I did four typos while 
 typing
 it!) so I have about eight variants in /etc/aliases for her alone!
 As well as principal@ and principle@

 and this from a school which presumably promotes literacy!

Yes - emails from prospective students and their parents, and real world
people who went somewhere else *dig*

GRIN




RE: CD burners .ogg files

2004-12-16 Thread C. Falconer

Make a directory and copy all the files you want on the CD there

Make an iso image with
mkisofs -r -o ralphs_oggs.iso /somedirfullofstuff/

Burn said ISO to disk with:
cdrecord -tao -v driveropts=burnfree dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 -data ralphs_oggs.iso

IMHO YMMV HTH HAND etc.


-Original Message-
From: Ralph Stoker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 17 December 2004 3:19 p.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CD burners  .ogg files


Can anyone recommend a good CD burner application?
I've been playing with a new MP3 / CD player from DSE and had a go burning 
some .ogg files to listen to. The CD burner application I currently have 
installed with my SuSE 9.2 is K3b...KDE is my default environment.
unfortunately there appears to be a bug in that if I transfer too many 
files (more than about 7) into the K3b application ready to burn to disc the

application crashes and closes.

The .ogg files play fine on the DSE player but if the anti-skip feature is 
initiated then the player has difficulty searching the disc for songs...I
get 
round this currently by disabling the anti-skip feature...the player starts 
playing the songs and then I initiate the anti-skip.

Is there anyone out there who knows of any tweaks to get round this?..when 
ripping / burning??

Cheers
Ralph



RE: KNOPPIX 3.7 and opencd 2.0

2004-12-13 Thread C. Falconer
240V distribution?  Not intentionally.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Errington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 December 2004 10:28 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: KNOPPIX 3.7 and opencd 2.0


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:12, you wrote:
 On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:08:52 +1300

 Andrew Errington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:49, you wrote:
   Sorry I missed the lunch. I am currently wiring our new house. Are 
   15 x RJ45 outlets enough?
 
  Sorry I missed it too.
 
  No, not enough.  I had 12, and I'm putting another 12-way panel in.

 laso would be insufficient if half of them are for phones (but we do 
 not know that)

No.  All RJ45 sockets in my house are identical, however I can patch any 
socket to either the ethernet switch or the phone line.  I have also used a 
parallel port extender (uses 2 pairs) and a video balun over the Cat 5e 
cables.  Basically you should think of the premises wiring as just a wire 
from a central point to a point in a room.  That wire then does something 
specific depending on what you plug into each end.  You can extend the 
concept by considering each wire as 4 pairs of wire, or 8 individual wires, 
and use them for any purpose you choose.

Andy


RE: OT: Monitor hardware fixing?

2004-12-06 Thread C. Falconer
Gentlemen!  Support the linux-friendly businesses in Your Area!
Talk to Nick Elder at Ascot www.ascot.net.nz

A new 21 is worth $900 for a budget one to $2500 for a nice trinitron one,
so even though normal CRTs aren't that expensive these days a 21 is still
bloody massive and worth repairing if possible.


-Original Message-
From: Andre Renaud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2004 8:28 a.m.
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT: Monitor hardware fixing?


On Mon, 2004-12-06 at 22:15 +1300, Jim Cheetham wrote:
 I've a 21 bottle that doesn't work right (No, it isn't one of the
 recent set that came via the list). The 'picture', such as it is, is 
 basically a single bright vertical line roughly down the center of the 
 screen. I don't fancy opening the beast up myself, but if anyone knew 
 of a decent repair business who might be prepared to have a go I'd like 
 to hear about it ...

Try Vintron Electronics (possibly Vintronics?). They've repaired monitors
for me before, but they aren't super cheap, and it is often not worth it,
since CRT monitors aren't that expensive these days.





RE: Sun Monitors

2004-12-06 Thread C. Falconer
I do - it's a computer dynamics sun converter, to mix a PS/2 keyboard/mouse
and VGA down to Sun stuff Currently on a SS20 (which runs solaris 9 atm)

Email me off list if you want it for a bit.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Holdoway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2004 8:27 a.m.
To: CLUG
Subject: Sun Monitors


Has anyone got a Sun monitor I can borrow, or, even better, a converter for
a PC monitor? Mine's just blown up on me. I need to rebuild my Suns before I
can access them over the network and run them headless again.

Also, does anyone have a use for a Sun monitor that displays only a light
grey screen with diagonal white lines across it? Approx weight 4 tons (:

Cheers,

Steve


-- 
Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off



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