Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)
Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:43:29 +1200 Robert Himmelmann wrote: Hello Robert , I can give you a lift ... have wifes permission to steal the car for the morning and part of the afternoon. If I picked you up at 8:40? Should get us to the garage by 9. Shane Is there someone who could pick me up? I live at Idris Road 85 Bryndwr/Fendalton. isn't that what Shane just offered? Sorry, here are too many Roberts. I got a bit confused about all the messages in this thread -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Godel's Theorem ... -- Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow
Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:40, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Sorry, here are too many Roberts. If you others can all change your names to Robert it will avoid the confusion. -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz
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or Bruce: http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_scripts/bruces.asp That skit, and particularly the concluding song, still crack me up. On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:00:24 +1200 Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:40, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Sorry, here are too many Roberts. If you others can all change your names to Robert it will avoid the confusion. -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz -- Nick Rout
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Consider it done :) David Robert the Bruce Merriman On 7/04/2005 9:11:56 a.m., Nick Rout ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: or Bruce: http://www.intriguing.com/mp/_scripts/bruces.asp That skit, and particularly the concluding song, still crack me up. On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 09:00:24 +1200 Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 20:40, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Sorry, here are too many Roberts. If you others can all change your names to Robert it will avoid the confusion. -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz -- Nick Rout
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Thanks for the offer Yuri :) Would this be too late to turn up? I'm still struggling to organize a ride in the morning :( Tony I will pass thru riccarton. however, I might be coming after lunch instead of at 9am since the laptop I intend to install gentoo on may be in use as a glorified typewriter in the morning. On Apr 5, 2005 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be struggling to get there, noone wants to get up early enough to help me get over there :/ Would anyone be coming through Riccarton on their way that I could catch a lift from please? I can probably arrange a ride back from my lazy friends. They should be out of bed by then ;) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 6/04/2005
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It would not be too late if all goes well - i.e. you understand the instructions and your hardware is relatively up to date and common. On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:20, Tony Patterson wrote: Thanks for the offer Yuri :) Would this be too late to turn up? I'm still struggling to organize a ride in the morning :( Tony I will pass thru riccarton. however, I might be coming after lunch instead of at 9am since the laptop I intend to install gentoo on may be in use as a glorified typewriter in the morning. On Apr 5, 2005 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be struggling to get there, noone wants to get up early enough to help me get over there :/ Would anyone be coming through Riccarton on their way that I could catch a lift from please? I can probably arrange a ride back from my lazy friends. They should be out of bed by then ;) -- Robert Fisher (aka - Rob, Bob, Robbie, Robbo, Fish) FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz
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Keep trying, I am now not sure if I'll make it at all. If the weather is good, I have outside chores to attend to. If it rains I will be there in the afternoon, possibly in the morning too. Sorry to stuff you around - I am not able to plan that far ahead these days. Background - my father is helping us with our rennovations - in return I have to be available at a moments notice. Yuri On Apr 7, 2005 12:20 PM, Tony Patterson wrote: Thanks for the offer Yuri :) Would this be too late to turn up? I'm still struggling to organize a ride in the morning :( Tony I will pass thru riccarton. however, I might be coming after lunch instead of at 9am since the laptop I intend to install gentoo on may be in use as a glorified typewriter in the morning. On Apr 5, 2005 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be struggling to get there, noone wants to get up early enough to help me get over there :/ Would anyone be coming through Riccarton on their way that I could catch a lift from please? I can probably arrange a ride back from my lazy friends. They should be out of bed by then ;) -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 6/04/2005 -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
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On Apr 5, 2005 10:55 AM, xhen wrote: I might be struggling to get there, noone wants to get up early enough to help me get over there :/ Would anyone be coming through Riccarton on their way that I could catch a lift from please? I can probably arrange a ride back from my lazy friends. They should be out of bed by then ;) Did you get your ride sorted out? If not email me and I will add you to the pick up list along with Robert. I would need to collect you at 8:30 to make it to Roberts by 8:40. Shane -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 6/04/2005
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Below is a progress report on findings so far and perhaps some new questions. Documented here for those who follow where I tread - to be archived for that purpose as well as for the current gentoo gurus to be able to assist (I hope) On Apr 5, 2005 5:13 PM, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 17:08 +1200, yuri wrote: On the subject of partitioning, it occured to me that maybe I should add a suspend partition to the laptop this time - I lost it when I nuked XP to install mandrake. Hard to find any info on what sort of suspend partition is needed for NEC Versa E series laptops. I've found on google that Thinkpad Hibernation format uses partition type a0 but similar info can't be found for NEC Versa. I have a feeling that its governed by the bios, I have had two phoenix bios laptops that both required a partition of type a0. YMMV. Look too at the linux laptops page (google linux laptops, it is always number one on the list) According to lphdisk info at http://www.procyon.com/~pda/lphdisk/readme.html it should work for any Pheonix NoteBIOS laptop. When I get home to night I'll see if our laptop uses this BIOS, then problem solved. Okay, I've got a bios from a crowd I've never heard of: Insyde. I emailed NEC support how do I re-create the suspend partition? and NEC replied Depends, what version of windows are you using? Ha! Gave up on NEC then. swsusp2 seems to be what I'm after. The howto that Nick linked to says it can be triggered by the power button if you can get acpi to work. Now: When I shutdown knoppix, it ejects the disk, tells me to hit enter when it's removed, and then turns the laptop off. When I shut down mandrake, it shuts down all services, kills all processes, unmounts all filesystems, then waits for me to switch off power manually. From the above I surmise that knoppix can use acpi or apm or something, but mandrake can't (at least not without some tweaking on my part, so not OOTB). I gather, therefore, that gentoo can be cajoled into using acpi on my laptop with enough gurus looking into it :-) swsusp2 save stuff to the swap partition, so no separate suspend partition is required. I think I'm set. Can anybody, from reading what I've just typed, see anything I might be overlooking? Yuri -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
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IT Support NZ wrote: Hello Robert , I can give you a lift ... have wifes permission to steal the car for the morning and part of the afternoon. If I picked you up at 8:40? Should get us to the garage by 9. Shane Is there someone who could pick me up? I live at Idris Road 85 Bryndwr/Fendalton. Thanks, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain Murphy's Law, that brash proletarian restatement of Godel's Theorem ... -- Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow
Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:43:29 +1200 Robert Himmelmann wrote: Hello Robert , I can give you a lift ... have wifes permission to steal the car for the morning and part of the afternoon. If I picked you up at 8:40? Should get us to the garage by 9. Shane Is there someone who could pick me up? I live at Idris Road 85 Bryndwr/Fendalton. isn't that what Shane just offered? Thanks, Robert Himmelmann -- Nick Rout
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Would I be able to come along? Done an install before( 2004.0) , changed to ubuntu want to switch back, rate-limited atm and willing to help others. system specs : amd64 3000 1gb ram 2x 120gb ata hdd radeon x800 thanks, Isaac ** BEWARE GMAIL HEADER **
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OK with me, as long as Robert has room. Please study the AMD64 specific install instructions. On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 20:25 +1200, Isaac Devine wrote: Would I be able to come along? Done an install before( 2004.0) , changed to ubuntu want to switch back, rate-limited atm and willing to help others. system specs : amd64 3000 1gb ram 2x 120gb ata hdd radeon x800 thanks, Isaac ** BEWARE GMAIL HEADER ** -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I've started reading the handbook pdf and I have a question: What's the difference between a GRP install and a stage 3 install? Are they the same thing? Which one are we doing in Robert's garage? Yuri -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 08:02:38 +1200 yuri wrote: I've started reading the handbook pdf and I have a question: What's the difference between a GRP install and a stage 3 install? Stage 3 is an install where you start off with a very basic system installed. This is in the form of a compressed tarball which you untar to your new partitio. You add your choice of cron daemon, logging daemon, kernel, booter (grub/lilo) and you configure your system. You are then left with a very basic command line system. GRP has a selection of pre-compiled packages which you can very quickly add on top of that, and have kde or gmome or xfce4 running within 15 minutes or so of completing the stage 3 install. (Providing your X is not difficult to configure). From then on you compile when you want to update. Are they the same thing? Which one are we doing in Robert's garage? My approach is to suggest stage 3 plus GRP to get everyone off to a head start, otherwise you will be compiling all day. Of course if there is other software for which there is not a pre-compiled GRP package, you will have to compile it. No drama. If you are happy to follow that advice ignore sections 6c (Progressing from stage 1 to stage2) and 6d (Progressing from St2 to St3) Yuri -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post. -- Nick Rout
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If you have any doubts about being able to install Gentoo then perhaps you should read http://www.linuxtimes.net/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=806 On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 20:25 +1200, Isaac Devine wrote: Would I be able to come along? Done an install before( 2004.0) , changed to ubuntu want to switch back, rate-limited atm and willing to help others. system specs : amd64 3000 1gb ram 2x 120gb ata hdd radeon x800 thanks, Isaac ** BEWARE GMAIL HEADER ** -- Robert Fisher FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz
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I might be struggling to get there, noone wants to get up early enough to help me get over there :/ Would anyone be coming through Riccarton on their way that I could catch a lift from please? I can probably arrange a ride back from my lazy friends. They should be out of bed by then ;)
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I will pass thru riccarton. however, I might be coming after lunch instead of at 9am since the laptop I intend to install gentoo on may be in use as a glorified typewriter in the morning. On Apr 5, 2005 10:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be struggling to get there, noone wants to get up early enough to help me get over there :/ Would anyone be coming through Riccarton on their way that I could catch a lift from please? I can probably arrange a ride back from my lazy friends. They should be out of bed by then ;) -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
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Hello Gentoo Festers still coming ... I am still in for it, wife willing. Can I help out with any hardware ... at all? I have network gear, spare PC's (Celron or P4 2.8 with 500Mb ram and large Hdd's) screens etc if it would help. Nick, if you could give me a call ... you have my number or Robert email me if I can help out with gear. I have a Celeron 1.3 toshiba laptop which I was wondering if Gentoo would work on otherwise I will be installing on a 2.8 Celeron, 500Mb memory and an FIC motherboard. Standard IDE hard drive (Western Digital). Sounds nice. Where about is this garage situated, at what time are we going to start and could someone pick me up and bring me back? I live at Bryndwr/Fendalton, 85, Idris Road (near crossing of Idris and Jeffrey's Road). I can ... I live just around the corner and up the block from you ... Cheers, shane Best regards, -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 1/04/2005
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i'm a bit uncertain when it comes to some things nowdays and would feel better having hands(or tails) there for the holding thereof if necessary so may well bring a box along for ipcop-ing on the day. thanks peter Nick Rout wrote: Suit yourself which way you go - If you want help with a ipcop box I can do that too. You wouldn't be keen to have a crack at Sarging an IP cop box too would you? i have a customer who wants Sarg to do their web logging. Sarg seems to have been discarded as an IPCop add in so am looking at either a static compile and install or else sending the log files to another machine for Sarging on that. I was thinking about getting the source code for IP cop, Adding sarg, adding dans guardian and also clam avg to make a logging, filtering, anti virusing gate way box. If anyone is keen to try that as well at the fest I really could use some advice and help. My company account would be happy to spring some cash or beer or both for any takers on the job. Shane -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 1/04/2005
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Hi Nick , If you need a distro or two downloaded let me know and i'' drop em onto my machine and get you the disks. shane -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 1/04/2005
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On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:41 +1200, IT Support NZ wrote: Hello Gentoo Festers still coming ... I am still in for it, wife willing. Can I help out with any hardware ... at all? I have network gear, spare PC's (Celron or P4 2.8 with 500Mb ram and large Hdd's) screens etc if it would help. I will supply:- The space Power outlets 100BaseT switch and some cables (it would pay to bring your own just in case I do not have enough) Tables and chairs (if you are not comfortable on outdoor furniture then bring your own) Glasses, cups and other crockery Coffee machine Fridge Printed installation manuals Computers for browsing ADSL connection Some knowledge (Chris and Nick will have some too but bring your own) -- Robert Fisher FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz
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Diligently making my way thru the handbook. On the subject of partitioning, it occured to me that maybe I should add a suspend partition to the laptop this time - I lost it when I nuked XP to install mandrake. Hard to find any info on what sort of suspend partition is needed for NEC Versa E series laptops. I've found on google that Thinkpad Hibernation format uses partition type a0 but similar info can't be found for NEC Versa. According to lphdisk info at http://www.procyon.com/~pda/lphdisk/readme.html it should work for any Pheonix NoteBIOS laptop. When I get home to night I'll see if our laptop uses this BIOS, then problem solved. Also looking at swsusp as well. Does gentoo include swsusp. Anyone have any tips for suspend on NEC laptops? Yuri -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
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On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 15:41 +1200, IT Support NZ wrote: I am still in for it, wife willing. Can I help out with any hardware ... at all? I have network gear, spare PC's (Celron or P4 2.8 with 500Mb ram and large Hdd's) screens etc if it would help. Nick, if you could give me a call ... you have my number or Robert email me if I can help out with gear. I have a Celeron 1.3 toshiba laptop which I was wondering if Gentoo would work on otherwise I will be installing on a 2.8 Celeron, 500Mb memory and an FIC motherboard. Standard IDE hard drive (Western Digital) I run gentoo on a PIII 650 MHz laptop, and an 1100MHZ desktop, 1.3 G is fine. If you want to install on them both I think thats fine. Honestly I think we have enough support gear. You will see Robert has just posted a list of stuff he is supplying. I have a box which will have all the files on it that we need. I don't think we need any more servers. We are not doing much compiling for this install, mainly doing the GRP thing. The idea is to get a functioning machine running X and a desktop of your choice. For an idea of the precompiled packages available see this file: http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz/gentoo/releases/x86/2005.0/packagecd/CONTENTS -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 17:08 +1200, yuri wrote: Diligently making my way thru the handbook. On the subject of partitioning, it occured to me that maybe I should add a suspend partition to the laptop this time - I lost it when I nuked XP to install mandrake. Hard to find any info on what sort of suspend partition is needed for NEC Versa E series laptops. I've found on google that Thinkpad Hibernation format uses partition type a0 but similar info can't be found for NEC Versa. I have a feeling that its governed by the bios, I have had two phoenix bios laptops that both required a partition of type a0. YMMV. Look too at the linux laptops page (google linux laptops, it is always number one on the list) According to lphdisk info at http://www.procyon.com/~pda/lphdisk/readme.html it should work for any Pheonix NoteBIOS laptop. When I get home to night I'll see if our laptop uses this BIOS, then problem solved. Also looking at swsusp as well. Does gentoo include swsusp. Cannot find it in portage, but have seen it in howtos. I suggest google for gentoo wiki, then search for swsusp Anyone have any tips for suspend on NEC laptops? Yuri -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 17:13 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: Cannot find it in portage, but have seen it in howtos. I suggest google for gentoo wiki, then search for swsusp oh ok my curiosity got the better: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Software_Suspend_v2 -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) wrote: I live in Queenspark (Parklands) The address is 5 Belgrove Place but it is a new street and probably not on your map. Easy directions:- Half way down Inwoods Road turn into a (new) street called Bottle Lake Drive then turn left into Belgrove Place. I am happy to start about 9. It is probably best if Nick Chris and I set up our servers, tables, whiteboards etc. first. Regards, Robert Can I put my hand up for another try this year? Sorry for the lateish response but have been busy helping to cast some bronze medallions for the local AP show (Oxford). since last year I have given up dual booting with windows just have suse 9.1 with vmware for my wife's use of some statistical software she uses also a draw software package written in VB that i use for doing game draws for squash canterbury. system is an athlon xp2500+, 1gb ram, nvidia fx5600 video 120gb sata hd. cheers...howard blomfield
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On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 10:50 +1200, howard blomfield wrote: Can I put my hand up for another try this year? Certainly you can Howard. -- Robert Fisher FishNet Computer Services www.fisher.net.nz
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Robert Himmelmann said: Am I right in thinking that you mean 9PM? No no. 9 am. With decent hardware and a pre read of the install docs (to give you an understanding) you should have a decent system running by mid afternoon. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
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Which install docs? Robert Himmelmann said: Am I right in thinking that you mean 9PM? No no. 9 am. With decent hardware and a pre read of the install docs (to give you an understanding) you should have a decent system running by mid afternoon. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain fortune's Contribution of the Month to the Animal Rights Debate: I'll stay out of animals' way if they'll stay out of mine. Hey you, get off my plate -- Roger Midnight
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On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 07:45 +1200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: Which install docs? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml Robert Himmelmann said: Am I right in thinking that you mean 9PM? No no. 9 am. With decent hardware and a pre read of the install docs (to give you an understanding) you should have a decent system running by mid afternoon. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Robert Himmelmann said: Which install docs? Go to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml I will be printing these for the day too. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
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Robert Himmelmann wrote: I will come if I can. I have a Yakumo laptop with 1Gb Ram, an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ and a 40Gb Hd. At the moment I am using double boot with SuSE's Grub for SuSE and Windows XP. That would be triple boot later. For comleteness: I also have a DVD-RW-RAM-burner, 100Mbit Ethernet and a USB-mouse. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain fortune's Contribution of the Month to the Animal Rights Debate: I'll stay out of animals' way if they'll stay out of mine. Hey you, get off my plate -- Roger Midnight
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Sounds nice. Where about is this garage situated, at what time are we going to start and could someone pick me up and bring me back? I live at Bryndwr/Fendalton, 85, Idris Road (near crossing of Idris and Jeffrey's Road). [1] This is Robert's new garage, large and comfortable, as opposed to the more cramped version last year. This time we will be able to swing a cat, although we may need to BYO cat. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain fortune's Contribution of the Month to the Animal Rights Debate: I'll stay out of animals' way if they'll stay out of mine. Hey you, get off my plate -- Roger Midnight
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On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 18:23 +1200, Tony Patterson wrote: True. Well I'll see if he can hang at his Mums for that day or I'll bring some entertainment :) Would the following w/e be better? One of the other customers can't make the proposed date. -- C. S. Any time is fine for me. He is with me every weekend so I can just grab a laptop from work and bring a few dvds or try to get Warcraft 3 running on it :) So, no problems here with changing the date if that helps others. Also I forgot to mention before that I have an ati radeon 9800 pro video card and an Intel 100 nic. My 9 year old may be there for part of the time, they can play one of those awful kill-them-over-the-network games. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry, I will also have to pass on this one. The whole of April is a no show for me. Maybe another time. Lance Blackler - Original Message - From: Dave G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage) On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56, Nick Rout wrote: A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage [1] to have gentoo installed.[2] I have it on good authority that we should have access to the 2005.0 release in time to do this on Saturday 9 April. So, can we have some confirmation of who will be coming for an install. So far I can recall (without wading thru the entire archives): Robert Himmelman Dave (gevad at orcon) Shane Hollis (?) Xhen (xhen at paradise) Lance Blackler Nick Co many thanks for remembering me for the installfest I would definitely have been a starter however I can't make it on Saturday 9 April as I'm I'm away for the whole weekend (Friday - Sunday) however if there is a change of date count me in (if poss) cheersdave garlick Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kmail/Kontact KDE Desktop 3.3.2 SimplyMEPIS Linux - Kernel 2.6.7 (i686)
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OK with me - the venue host Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2005 6:12 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage) On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor kid! Unless he's a mega-genius, he'll be bored to tears! Watching text fly up screens isn't exactly exciting for anybody. True. Well I'll see if he can hang at his Mums for that day or I'll bring some entertainment :) Would the following w/e be better? One of the other customers can't make the proposed date. -- C. S.
RE: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)
I live in Queenspark (Parklands) The address is 5 Belgrove Place but it is a new street and probably not on your map. Easy directions:- Half way down Inwoods Road turn into a (new) street called Bottle Lake Drive then turn left into Belgrove Place. I am happy to start about 9. It is probably best if Nick Chris and I set up our servers, tables, whiteboards etc. first. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Robert Himmelmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2005 8:43 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage) Sounds nice. Where about is this garage situated, at what time are we going to start and could someone pick me up and bring me back? I live at Bryndwr/Fendalton, 85, Idris Road (near crossing of Idris and Jeffrey's Road). [1] This is Robert's new garage, large and comfortable, as opposed to the more cramped version last year. This time we will be able to swing a cat, although we may need to BYO cat. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain fortune's Contribution of the Month to the Animal Rights Debate: I'll stay out of animals' way if they'll stay out of mine. Hey you, get off my plate -- Roger Midnight
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Nick Rout said: My 9 year old may be there for part of the time, they can play one of those awful kill-them-over-the-network games. We could play movies for them too. We have a few. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56:30 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage [1] to have gentoo installed.[2] [snippity-snip] There may be others interested? Yes. Yuri (yuri att degroot ddot geek dottt nz) Those that do want to come, please post the architecture of your machine, ie what sort of processor. Some basic specs (Ram, spare HD space, cpu speed) would be good too as I don't want to have 10 pentium one's turn up on the day :) [3] NEC Versa Laptop P4, 2Ghz, 256MB (I think), about 8GB free on HD. Onboard sound and ethernet work with Mandrake 10.0. Sound works in full-duplex. Onboard winmodem not important. Yuri -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
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As this is my first installfest does any-one know about how long it will take? Am I right in thinking that you mean 9PM? I am happy to start about 9. It is probably best if Nick Chris and I set up our servers, tables, whiteboards etc. first. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain fortune's Contribution of the Month to the Animal Rights Debate: I'll stay out of animals' way if they'll stay out of mine. Hey you, get off my plate -- Roger Midnight
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:34:44 +1200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: As this is my first installfest does any-one know about how long it will take? Am I right in thinking that you mean 9PM? I am happy to start about 9. It is probably best if Nick Chris and I set up our servers, tables, whiteboards etc. first. This is gentoo we're talking about here. I assumed 9am. Could be finished at 9pm[1] though with older computers, unless we do the distcc thing. Yuri [1] Not necessarily the same day. -- ** WARNING to mailing list repliers ** Gmail over-rides Reply-To: field. Check your To: address before sending reply to this post.
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:41:52 +1200 yuri wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:34:44 +1200, Robert Himmelmann wrote: As this is my first installfest does any-one know about how long it will take? Am I right in thinking that you mean 9PM? I am happy to start about 9. It is probably best if Nick Chris and I set up our servers, tables, whiteboards etc. first. This is gentoo we're talking about here. I assumed 9am. Could be finished at 9pm[1] though with older computers, unless we do the distcc thing. 9 am start binary installation finished by lunch time (the same day) famous last words. -- Nick Rout
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I can volunteer a 386 DX 25 with 10 Mb ram and two 1Gb scsi drives and 100 Mbit isa ethernet and an ISA ET4000 video card. -grin- -Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2005 1:57 p.m. To: CLUG Subject: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage) A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage [1] to have gentoo installed.[2] I have it on good authority that we should have access to the 2005.0 release in time to do this on Saturday 9 April. So, can we have some confirmation of who will be coming for an install. So far I can recall (without wading thru the entire archives): Robert Himmelman Dave (gevad at orcon) Shane Hollis (?) Xhen (xhen at paradise) Lance Blackler (sorry some people don't use their full name when posting) There may be others interested? Those that do want to come, please post the architecture of your machine, ie what sort of processor. Some basic specs (Ram, spare HD space, cpu speed) would be good too as I don't want to have 10 pentium one's turn up on the day :) [3] [1] This is Robert's new garage, large and comfortable, as opposed to the more cramped version last year. This time we will be able to swing a cat, although we may need to BYO cat. [2] thread started here http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0501/msg00800.html [3] There shouldn't be too many machines that would be completely unsuitable for some form of gentoo installation, but I don't want to waste people's time either. -- Nick Rout
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56, Nick Rout wrote: There may be others interested? What do you need in the way of helpers? -- C. S.
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:09:21 +1200 Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56, Nick Rout wrote: There may be others interested? What do you need in the way of helpers? I counted you as a helper already :-) presumptuous I know, but u r usually a starter! -- C. S. -- Nick Rout
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On Tue, March 22, 2005 2:00 pm, C. Falconer said: I can volunteer a 386 DX 25 with 10 Mb ram and two 1Gb scsi drives and 100 Mbit isa ethernet and an ISA ET4000 video card. -grin- [snip] I thought that was the school's mailserver? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
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We definitely want you to be there Chris. (I thought that was taken as read) The more the merrier I guess. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 22 March 2005 2:09 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject:Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage) On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56, Nick Rout wrote: There may be others interested? What do you need in the way of helpers? -- C. S.
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:11:22 +1200 (NZST) Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, March 22, 2005 2:00 pm, C. Falconer said: I can volunteer a 386 DX 25 with 10 Mb ram and two 1Gb scsi drives and 100 Mbit isa ethernet and an ISA ET4000 video card. -grin- [snip] I thought that was the school's mailserver? it was, but this is a better cause!
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On Tue, March 22, 2005 2:14 pm, Nick Rout said: On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:11:22 +1200 (NZST) Steve Holdoway wrote: On Tue, March 22, 2005 2:00 pm, C. Falconer said: I can volunteer a 386 DX 25 with 10 Mb ram and two 1Gb scsi drives and 100 Mbit isa ethernet and an ISA ET4000 video card. -grin- [snip] I thought that was the school's mailserver? it was, but this is a better cause! What's this one called... garterbelt??? -- Windows: Where do you want to go today? MacOS: Where do you want to be tomorrow? Linux: Are you coming or what?
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:11, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:09:21 +1200 Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56, Nick Rout wrote: There may be others interested? What do you need in the way of helpers? I counted you as a helper already :-) presumptuous I know, but u r usually a starter! o.k. I'll be there. They'd better watch out I'll learn 'em! -- C. S.
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Hi, I'm the xhen at paradise. My real name is Tony Patterson. I'd be keen to come along on that day, I'll probably have my 7 year old son in tow, would there be any other kids there to kept him hanging off my shirttails all day long? :) I have a Dell P4 3GHz machine which is dualbooted at the moment with Xp and my attempts at getting Gentoo up and going. It has a Dell Soundblaster Live card in it which has defied my repeated attempts to get alsa working. I think I gave 50-60 gb space for the linux partition and it has 1Gb ram. I am car deprived at the moment but depending on where it is I don't mind lugging it over on the bus :) Thanks Tony A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage [1] to have gentoo installed.[2] I have it on good authority that we should have access to the 2005.0 release in time to do this on Saturday 9 April. So, can we have some confirmation of who will be coming for an install. So far I can recall (without wading thru the entire archives): Robert Himmelman Dave (gevad at orcon) Shane Hollis (?) Xhen (xhen at paradise) Lance Blackler (sorry some people don't use their full name when posting) There may be others interested? Those that do want to come, please post the architecture of your machine, ie what sort of processor. Some basic specs (Ram, spare HD space, cpu speed) would be good too as I don't want to have 10 pentium one's turn up on the day :) [3] [1] This is Robert's new garage, large and comfortable, as opposed to the more cramped version last year. This time we will be able to swing a cat, although we may need to BYO cat. [2] thread started here http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0501/msg00800.html [3] There shouldn't be too many machines that would be completely unsuitable for some form of gentoo installation, but I don't want to waste people's time either. -- Nick Rout
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm the xhen at paradise. My real name is Tony Patterson. I'd be keen to come along on that day, I'll probably have my 7 year old son in tow, would there be any other kids there to kept him hanging off my shirttails all day long? :) Poor kid! Unless he's a mega-genius, he'll be bored to tears! Watching text fly up screens isn't exactly exciting for anybody. I have a Dell P4 3GHz machine which is dualbooted at the moment with Xp and my attempts at getting Gentoo up and going. It has a Dell Soundblaster Live card in it which has defied my repeated attempts to get alsa working. Do I gather that what you're really after is not an install, but a fix-up? i.e. Have you got Gentoo running, bar the sound? I think I gave 50-60 gb space for the linux partition and it has 1Gb ram. I am car deprived at the moment but depending on where it is I don't mind lugging it over on the bus :) I assume it's a laptop or other (semi)-portable? A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage [1] to have gentoo installed.[2] I have it on good authority that we should have access to the 2005.0 release in time to do this on Saturday 9 April. So, can we have some confirmation of who will be coming for an install. So far I can recall (without wading thru the entire archives): Robert Himmelman Dave (gevad at orcon) Shane Hollis (?) Xhen (xhen at paradise) Lance Blackler (sorry some people don't use their full name when posting) There may be others interested? Those that do want to come, please post the architecture of your machine, ie what sort of processor. Some basic specs (Ram, spare HD space, cpu speed) would be good too as I don't want to have 10 pentium one's turn up on the day :) [3] [1] This is Robert's new garage, large and comfortable, as opposed to the more cramped version last year. This time we will be able to swing a cat, although we may need to BYO cat. [2] thread started here http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0501/msg00800.html [3] There shouldn't be too many machines that would be completely unsuitable for some form of gentoo installation, but I don't want to waste people's time either. -- Nick Rout
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Poor kid! Unless he's a mega-genius, he'll be bored to tears! Watching text fly up screens isn't exactly exciting for anybody. True. Well I'll see if he can hang at his Mums for that day or I'll bring some entertainment :) Do I gather that what you're really after is not an install, but a fix-up? i.e. Have you got Gentoo running, bar the sound? I had gentoo running with stuttering alsa sound, at the moment no sound for some reason. Had e-17 and a few bits and bobs. It's all been just from experimentation and piecing together disparate bits of information. Some stuff doesn't work as expected i.e. I put -kde -qt in my use flags but something still tries to install kde. I don't know what I need to do security wise (I am connected to the internet via adsl pretty much 24/7) I guess what I'm looking for is a good install and learning what I can from the collected knowledge of my peers :) Like why my clock is always off by one hour or why I have an unknown domainname. I am car deprived at the moment but depending on where it is I don't mind lugging it over on the bus :) I assume it's a laptop or other (semi)-portable? Sadly no, it's a tower but the monitor is flat. I'll try to encourage a friend to give me a lift there and back. Tony.
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On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 16:02 +1200, peter elliott wrote: ps: i'm tempted to bring along this current box, not for gentooisation, but so i can get the networking setup on the day. would that be cool? or does a two box network with dialup internet need an ipcop box as well? bring your current box if you like, although why a man of your talents needs one of us to set up networking is a mystery :-) Personally I prefer the ipcop in a separate box approach, mainly because it means never having to bother with modems on any extra boxes on my net, and not having to write my own firewall rules for the box that dials in, never having to configure any network beyond chosing dhcp. Suit yourself which way you go - If you want help with a ipcop box I can do that too. right hand - emerge gentoo left hand - install ipcop can still use a stick gripped firmly between the teeth to hit a third keyboard :) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I will come if I can. I have a Yakumo laptop with 1Gb Ram, an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ and a 40Gb Hd. At the moment I am using double boot with SuSE's Grub for SuSE and Windows XP. That would be triple boot later. -- Happy Hacking, Robert Himmelmann A classic is something that everybody wants to have read and nobody wants to read. -- Mark Twain fortune's Contribution of the Month to the Animal Rights Debate: I'll stay out of animals' way if they'll stay out of mine. Hey you, get off my plate -- Roger Midnight
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haha i like that ambi-whatsit at the end. i'm a bit uncertain when it comes to some things nowdays and would feel better having hands(or tails) there for the holding thereof if necessary so may well bring a box along for ipcop-ing on the day. thanks peter Nick Rout wrote: Personally I prefer the ipcop in a separate box approach, mainly because it means never having to bother with modems on any extra boxes on my net, and not having to write my own firewall rules for the box that dials in, never having to configure any network beyond chosing dhcp. Suit yourself which way you go - If you want help with a ipcop box I can do that too. right hand - emerge gentoo left hand - install ipcop can still use a stick gripped firmly between the teeth to hit a third keyboard :)
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56, Nick Rout wrote: A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage [1] to have gentoo installed.[2] I have it on good authority that we should have access to the 2005.0 release in time to do this on Saturday 9 April. So, can we have some confirmation of who will be coming for an install. So far I can recall (without wading thru the entire archives): Robert Himmelman Dave (gevad at orcon) Shane Hollis (?) Xhen (xhen at paradise) Lance Blackler Nick Co many thanks for remembering me for the installfest I would definitely have been a starter however I can't make it on Saturday 9 April as I'm I'm away for the whole weekend (Friday - Sunday) however if there is a change of date count me in (if poss) cheersdave garlick Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kmail/Kontact KDE Desktop 3.3.2 SimplyMEPIS Linux - Kernel 2.6.7 (i686)
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Poor kid! Unless he's a mega-genius, he'll be bored to tears! Watching text fly up screens isn't exactly exciting for anybody. True. Well I'll see if he can hang at his Mums for that day or I'll bring some entertainment :) Would the following w/e be better? One of the other customers can't make the proposed date. -- C. S.
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True. Well I'll see if he can hang at his Mums for that day or I'll bring some entertainment :) Would the following w/e be better? One of the other customers can't make the proposed date. -- C. S. Any time is fine for me. He is with me every weekend so I can just grab a laptop from work and bring a few dvds or try to get Warcraft 3 running on it :) So, no problems here with changing the date if that helps others. Also I forgot to mention before that I have an ati radeon 9800 pro video card and an Intel 100 nic. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.0 - Release Date: 21/03/2005
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On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 18:11 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: One of the other customers can't make the proposed date who? (did i miss a post?) -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 18:42, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 18:11 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: One of the other customers can't make the proposed date who? Dave Garlick (did i miss a post?) Evidentally. quote I would definitely have been a starter however I can't make it on Saturday 9 April as I'm I'm away for the whole weekend (Friday - Sunday) /quote -- C. S.
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On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 19:11 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: who? Dave Garlick (did i miss a post?) Evidentally. Sorry I lost track of who said what to whom, its just a badly misquoted new york telephone conversation on here sometimes. -- Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:34, Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 19:11 +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: who? Dave Garlick (did i miss a post?) Evidentally. Sorry I lost track of who said what to whom, its just a badly misquoted new york telephone conversation on here sometimes. If it helps heres the post again Nick Co many thanks for remembering me for the installfest I would definitely have been a starter however I can't make it on Saturday 9 April as I'm I'm away for the whole weekend (Friday - Sunday) however if there is a change of date count me in (if poss) cheersdave garlick Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kmail/Kontact KDE Desktop 3.3.2 SimplyMEPIS Linux - Kernel 2.6.7 (i686)
