Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
Thanks Will do. Wesley Parish On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Craig Falconer wrote: Wesley Parish wrote, On 10/09/09 01:19: I dropped the speed from 115200 to 57600 and it's a little bit more reliable now, but only by a fraction, not at all by a magnitude. That's your DTE/DCE speed, between modem and computer. The recommendation was to use AT commands to limit the connect to 33.6 http://www.modemsite.com/56K/x2-linklimit.asp might help. -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, tell them what an Ocarina really is: an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
Thanks - it may have helped. I'll take a look at the logs much later today. I dropped the speed from 115200 to 57600 and it's a little bit more reliable now, but only by a fraction, not at all by a magnitude. Thanks everybody for your help. Wesley Parish On Tue, 08 Sep 2009, Ross Drummond wrote: On Tuesday 08 September 2009, Wesley Parish wrote: Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like aforementioned drunk. Wesley Parish I see you have a Paradise email address. This means that your connections will be through Telstra Clear's Lucent remote access server. Go to this archived message and apply the work around suggested there; http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz/msg50654.html If that fails to work append the line debug to your /etc/ppp/options file. This will output a lot of stuff to your /var/log/messages file and may give you a clue about what is going on. Cheers Ross Drummond -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, tell them what an Ocarina really is: an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
Wesley Parish wrote, On 10/09/09 01:19: I dropped the speed from 115200 to 57600 and it's a little bit more reliable now, but only by a fraction, not at all by a magnitude. That's your DTE/DCE speed, between modem and computer. The recommendation was to use AT commands to limit the connect to 33.6 http://www.modemsite.com/56K/x2-linklimit.asp might help. -- Craig Falconer
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
On Tuesday 08 September 2009, Wesley Parish wrote: Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like aforementioned drunk. Wesley Parish I see you have a Paradise email address. This means that your connections will be through Telstra Clear's Lucent remote access server. Go to this archived message and apply the work around suggested there; http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz/msg50654.html If that fails to work append the line debug to your /etc/ppp/options file. This will output a lot of stuff to your /var/log/messages file and may give you a clue about what is going on. Cheers Ross Drummond
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ross Drummondr...@ashburton.co.nz wrote: On Tuesday 08 September 2009, Wesley Parish wrote: Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like aforementioned drunk. Wesley Parish I see you have a Paradise email address. This means that your connections will be through Telstra Clear's Lucent remote access server. Go to this archived message and apply the work around suggested there; http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz/msg50654.html If that fails to work append the line debug to your /etc/ppp/options file. This will output a lot of stuff to your /var/log/messages file and may give you a clue about what is going on. Cheers Ross Drummond Indeed if it is an MRU problem then some sites just won't open and you sit there forever wondering why. Others work fine. It depends on whether there are broken routers between you and the relevant web site.
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like aforementioned drunk. I'm starting to think I deserve broadband purely on the demerits of Telecom's performance, as compensation for Telecom's lack thereof. At any rate, having to open ten tabs of slashdot to guarantee getting even one, is a bit much. And if I have to use a 526k DSL thingee to solve the problems with a dial-up connection - at a measly 5k6 (if I'm lucky) - perhaps the problem isn't with me. On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Wesley Parish wrote: I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of an hour, and I'd like to document that. I may well decide to start a class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important. Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's lines permit me to ask. Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them for using Telecom. Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, tell them what an Ocarina really is: an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
RE: measurement software for electrical networks?
Hi Wesley, Have you tried forcing your modem to a fixed speed like 33k so it is not always trying to auonegiate a faster speed and forgetting to actually transfer data? I tend to do this for my rural friends who are still on dialup - not the sort thing you would expect in the city Maurice -Original Message- From: Wesley Parish [mailto:wes.par...@paradise.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 8:48 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: measurement software for electrical networks? Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like aforementioned drunk. I'm starting to think I deserve broadband purely on the demerits of Telecom's performance, as compensation for Telecom's lack thereof. At any rate, having to open ten tabs of slashdot to guarantee getting even one, is a bit much. And if I have to use a 526k DSL thingee to solve the problems with a dial-up connection - at a measly 5k6 (if I'm lucky) - perhaps the problem isn't with me. On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Wesley Parish wrote: I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of an hour, and I'd like to document that. I may well decide to start a class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important. Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's lines permit me to ask. Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them for using Telecom. Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, tell them what an Ocarina really is: an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
2009/9/7 Maurice Butler likema...@quicksilver.net.nz: Hi Wesley, Have you tried forcing your modem to a fixed speed like 33k so it is not always trying to auonegiate a faster speed and forgetting to actually transfer data? I tend to do this for my rural friends who are still on dialup - not the sort thing you would expect in the city Maurice -Original Message- From: Wesley Parish [mailto:wes.par...@paradise.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 8:48 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: measurement software for electrical networks? Well, for what it's worth, it's not getting any better; and I have disproved a couple of contentions of the amateurs I've talked to so far at Telecom and Paradise.net.nz - I've used the second jackpoint in the flat, and it's still falling over like a drunk with half a keg of vodka inside of him; and I've just upgraded the PC - and the connection's still falling over like aforementioned drunk. I'm starting to think I deserve broadband purely on the demerits of Telecom's performance, as compensation for Telecom's lack thereof. At any rate, having to open ten tabs of slashdot to guarantee getting even one, is a bit much. And if I have to use a 526k DSL thingee to solve the problems with a dial-up connection - at a measly 5k6 (if I'm lucky) - perhaps the problem isn't with me. On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Wesley Parish wrote: I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of an hour, and I'd like to document that. I may well decide to start a class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important. Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's lines permit me to ask. Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them for using Telecom. To get 56k audio modems to go properly, particularly with Linux, is still something to a black art. Wes: Please can you tell us exactly what your set up is? Please download the latest version of the scanModem utility, unpack it, and run it. http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz IMHO This is the ultimate tool for getting dial-up modems to work properly. If the report it generates does not immediately produce an obvious answer to you what's happening you might care to post the output from scanModem. The other thing that would be well worth a try is to take your computer and modem to a known-to-work telephone line to see what happens on a known good line. If it can be definitively proven that the line is at fault a suggestion is to move away from Telecom and get your new ISP to boot Telecom to get your line fixed. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
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Hi Wesley, ...dialup woes... I had an issue recently where a user could not get reliable DSL in the suburbs... negotiating between 160kbit and 2 Mbit, and drop outs every few minutes. Telecom didn't want to know because despite being a telecom phone number, it was a callplus DSL. Call plus actually tried to do something, but actual results were not present. Telstraclear cable is in the street, but they wouldn't take it up his driveway (rear section) So the only options left were dialup, or wireless. A free site survey from netspeed http://www.f1.co.nz/ showed he could have 2Mbit. Since the install he's had great speeds. This is in the middle of Hoon Hay, so its not rural or anything. -- Craig Falconer
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
2009/8/22 Wesley Parish wes.par...@paradise.net.nz: I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. http://xoscope.sourceforge.net/ Take care!! You will need some sort of isolation and attenuator between the 'phone line and your sound card. Others can fill you in on the electrical engineering aspects. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
Might be bleeding obvious to an ADSL user, but I am on dialup. It should be working perfectly, since it apparently either shares a line that was replaced in 2005; but it started palying up last year, about the time we had quite a lot of precipitation, and hasn't stopped. In the meantime, Telecom has decided it's entitled to charge me extra for features I don't use, for a line I am unable to use for any prolonged length of time. Back to the 1930s, it seems. On Saturday 22 August 2009 01:47, Euan Clark wrote: Might be bleeding obvious but I get identical symptoms when a phone's been plugged in directly to the socket somewhere oin the house rather than an ADSL filter. Wesley Parish wrote: I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of an hour, and I'd like to document that. I may well decide to start a class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important. Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's lines permit me to ask. Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them for using Telecom. Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, tell them what an Ocarina really is: an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
measurement software for electrical networks?
I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of an hour, and I'd like to document that. I may well decide to start a class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important. Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's lines permit me to ask. Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them for using Telecom. Wesley Parish -- Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish - George Kelischek - To impress those high-tech computer types, tell them what an Ocarina really is: an animal-activated-solid-state-multi-frequency-sound-synthesizer. - Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui? You ask, what is the most important thing? Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata. I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
Might be bleeding obvious but I get identical symptoms when a phone's been plugged in directly to the socket somewhere oin the house rather than an ADSL filter. Wesley Parish wrote: I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of an hour, and I'd like to document that. I may well decide to start a class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important. Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's lines permit me to ask. Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them for using Telecom. Wesley Parish
Re: measurement software for electrical networks?
On 2009/8/22 Wesley Parish wrote: I'm just wondering if there are any for Linux, that I could use to get hard copy of actual voltage and amperage levels on my Internet connection via Telecom's oh-so-wonderful lines. They cycle from useable to useless in between half=a=minute to a quarter of an hour, and I'd like to document that. I may well decide to start a class-action suit against Telecom for defrauding the general public, and having hard evidence is likely to be vitally important. First, I just want to say: Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence. (Hanlon's Razor) Oh, and by the way, Google is indeed my friend in this - when Telecom's lines permit me to ask. Telecom's mastered the art of punishing people for preferring to use someone else, after it mastered the art of punishing them for using Telecom. As a contractor who does some work for Telecom, there is a number I can dial that will report things like earth impedence, capacitance, voltage etc on your line, provided it comes from a Neax in the exchange and not from a mux cabinet. When you call 120 to report a problem with your phone they perform the same test. It gives better results if you unplug *everything* from all your phone jacks first. If you have an alarm, that can cause problems on your line. Even if it is not monitored, it may still be connected to the phone line for future-proofing. Also, any phone jacks installed by sky installers can cause problems (they do dodgy stuff like leaving an unprotected joint lying on the damp dirt under your house, among other things). Reply to me off-list and I'll see what I can do. Yuri
