RE: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification
Hi All, Please be assured that we are looking in to this problem. Thanks again for your patience. Jordan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 1 December 2008 2:52 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification - MailEnable: You are not permitted to post to the list (listserver@ozSilverlight.com). This list may be password protected, or you may need to have previously subscribed to the list in order to post to it. - --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification
Hi all, I've pinged the IT guys about it... I'll let you know when I know something :) Cheers, Jordan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John OBrien Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 5:59 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification ROFL! I contacted Jordan, I believe Readify are fixing the server? To confirm I believe everyone is getting these errors and certainly my posts never come through. So really I'm just wasting my time writing this :( Maybe some of you will see it :) John. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ross jempson Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 4:08 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification No. But it is ironic that we can see your post. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Muhammad Niaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, All why these email are coming. Can anybody explain. Thanks. Thanks Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd www.intagleo.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 4:59 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification hehe :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ross jempson Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 10:56 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification You are not permitted to keep sending me this email. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - MailEnable: You are not permitted to post to the list (listserver@ozSilverlight.com). This list may be password protected, or you may need to have previously subscribed to the list in order to post to it. - --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.10/1815 - Release Date: 27/11/2008 9:02 AM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification
hehe :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ross jempson Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 10:56 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] [listserver] List Posting Error Notification You are not permitted to keep sending me this email. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 2:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - MailEnable: You are not permitted to post to the list (listserver@ozSilverlight.com). This list may be password protected, or you may need to have previously subscribed to the list in order to post to it. - --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzSilverlight] Reminder SDDN Event: 27 November 2008
The Silverlight Designer and Developer Network Starts Next Week! Launching next week, the SDDN, which is part of Victoria .NET, is a new special interest group completely and absolutely for Silverlight and surrounding tools and technologies. As the name suggests SDDN is for developers and designers alike! Content will range from the most basic of Silverlight concepts to advanced topics like designer/developer workflow. When and Where? The group’s first meeting is on Thursday November 27 at 5:30 PM for a 6:00 PM start. The venue is Microsoft Theatre, Level 5, 4 Freshwater Place, Southbank. Attendance is FREE. But please RSVP to [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] if you plan to attend. We have some great speakers lined up for you: Shane Morris from Microsoft and Jonas Follesø from Capgemini. These guys have tons of experience in Silverlight and have presented many times on the subject, including fantastic talks at TechEd. Who will this group interest? The focus of the group is not just on developers. Traditionally developers have had great community support, whereas designers not so much… now that Silverlight 2 is out we plan to change this. Silverlight is as interesting for developers as it is for designers. Due in part to Silverlight’s excellent separation of design and development concerns we have new problems to solve around finding the best ways to work together. To this end the SDDN will facilitate an ongoing discussion and promote the development of ideas and best practices for anyone who works with Silverlight. To register interest head over to http://www.sddn.org.au. Registering your interest helps us organise the meetings! The Site A big part of the group is the site (http://www.sddn.org.au), which will include all sorts of goodies once we launch it later in the year, including blog syndication and more importantly all the presentations will be available for download! Stay tuned for more updates at a later stage. (And.. please note that the current site is just a temporary site!) If you do not wish to receive mails about SDDN, please send a mail with the subject UNSUBSCRIBE to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;4�(!r��yb�X��ǧu���Ơy-��b���r��y�-��.n7���0z��o)��W�i�^rfjv�y��� +y�b)�
RE: [OzSilverlight] Custom print-ad creation with Silverlight
Hi Craig, This looks pretty sweet. Out of interest what was the project lifetime? Cheers, Jordan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Dunn Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2008 2:36 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Custom print-ad creation with Silverlight For those interested in 'live' Silverlight 1.0 applications -- Do It Yourself Ads (DIYads) is online at http://diyads.com.au/ The premise is that vehicle owners can upload photos design an advertisement (using Silverlight) for inclusion in print magazines to help them sell the vehicle. The Help Videos http://diyads.com.au/DIY/DIY030.aspx show how it works, if you don't feel like taking it for a test-drive (sic)... Although the Silverlight 'Ad Builder' is kinda cool; what is more interesting is the behind-the-scenes processing from Xaml 'templates' to Jpeg previews using WPF; then transforming the XPS to PDF snippets which are later stitched together into the actual magazine pages that are sent to press. Note that using WPF classes on the server to render Xaml-to-Jpeg is 'not supported' but it seems to be possible if you are willing to play around a bit to work around the possible memory-leak issues... Adobe was openly hostile when asked for assistance with this project (tried to sell us Flash, of course, and *refused* to provide any tech-support to assist in converting XPS to PDF, despite having the XPS2PDFLib component that can do it) and Microsoft wasn't much help either. We found NiXPS (http://nixps.com/) to be a great product with very responsive support staff - highly recommend their product if you are interested in XPS/PDF print solutions. Hope it is of interest... --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1793 - Release Date: 19/11/2008 8:58 AM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzSilverlight] RE: Hardware accelerated video?
I was sufficiently impressed... the connection here is really crappy and the vids played very well... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 31 October 2008 10:38 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] RE: Hardware accelerated video? That wasn’t so smooth for me the other day, audio was stuttering, etc. I’m onsite mind you so connection may not be great, but I’m downloading PDC videos at 150 KB/sec so seems fairly decent (1.2 Mbps). Regards, Damian Edwards Microsoft MVPhttps://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Damian.Edwards | ASP/ASP.NET Readify | Senior Consultant M: 0448 545 868 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | C: [EMAIL PROTECTED]sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes Sent: Thursday, 30 October 2008 15:14 To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] RE: Hardware accelerated video? Nope :) In terms of what Flash has, they 10 added hardware bitmap compositing. Verdict is still out on how good it is in reality. Given our latest success with Smooth Streaming in IIS7, I wouldn’t be discouraged by Flash 10’s new toys as in the end..Flash is still Flash :D http://www.smoothHD.com to underpin this story further :D hehe. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian Edwards Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:33 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Hardware accelerated video? Anybody know if Silverlight 2 supports hardware accelerated video at all? I saw mention of this as a new Flash feature and was curious as to the story with Silverlight. Regards, Damian Edwards Microsoft MVPhttps://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Damian.Edwards | ASP/ASP.NET Readify | Senior Consultant Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: 0448 545 868 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | C: [EMAIL PROTECTED]sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ The content of this e-mail, including any attachments is a confidential communication between Readify Pty Ltd and the intended addressee and is for the sole use of that intended addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and then delete the message and any attachment(s). --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] How to deploy SL App
Hey Muhammad, SL doesn't actually require anything special on the system to be deployed. It will even work when embedded in a HTML file : ) But... The SL sever controls require that .NET 3.5 is installed on the server. The site should be packaged with the System.Web.Silverlight.dll so your asp:silverlight controls will work no problem. Can you go to the web service URL directly in your browser? Cheers, Jordan. P.S. Anyone - do the SL server controls require 3.5 SP1? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 5:32 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] How to deploy SL App Hi All, * I have developed a SL App which work fine at my system, but when I deploy it to other system then WebService not working well, what is the issue tell me. * And What things are required for SL to deploy on any machine.? Thanks Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd www.intagleo.co.ukhttp://www.intagleo.co.uk --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 21/10/2008 2:10 PM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Web Service url Configuration for SL App.?
Hey Muhammad, Have a peek at this post... it lets you automatically find the URL for your webservice relative to your application, so no need to do any configuration :) http://blog.webjak.net/2008/10/21/get-a-relative-uri-to-your-webwcf-service-in-silverlight/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 6:45 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Web Service url Configuration for SL App.? Hi All, I have build a SL based App which run in ASP.NET(off course) page, and this SL App used Web Service, I want to set configurable url of web Service if possible in Web.Config, so the there is no need of SL App to be recompile. Is it possible.? Please send any source code, anything. Thanks Regards Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 20/10/2008 2:52 PM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Web Service url Configuration for SL App.?
Hey mate, I've updated the article with a downloadable code sample :) The samples in the article are in VB.NET but the downloadable sample is in C# :) Cheers, Jordan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 9:34 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Web Service url Configuration for SL App.? Hi Jordan, I try your code, there is no success, Regards, Niaz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:08 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Web Service url Configuration for SL App.? Hi Jordan, Thanks for reply but can you send any complete SL App that using this kind code. Thanks Regards Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:19 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Web Service url Configuration for SL App.? Hey Muhammad, Have a peek at this post... it lets you automatically find the URL for your webservice relative to your application, so no need to do any configuration :) http://blog.webjak.net/2008/10/21/get-a-relative-uri-to-your-webwcf-service-in-silverlight/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Tuesday, 21 October 2008 6:45 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Web Service url Configuration for SL App.? Hi All, I have build a SL based App which run in ASP.NET(off course) page, and this SL App used Web Service, I want to set configurable url of web Service if possible in Web.Config, so the there is no need of SL App to be recompile. Is it possible.? Please send any source code, anything. Thanks Regards Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 20/10/2008 2:52 PM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 20/10/2008 2:52 PM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Drop Drag - DataGridRow
+1
As Jeffrey Richter says:
Always take the least specific and return the most specific :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ross jempson
Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 1:20 PM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Drop Drag - DataGridRow
this isn't really a c# list, but i will respond.
ok, to be pedantic i think the only reason it works is because you are
lucky the method you are calling is storing the the data internally as
ListUIElement, or something that can be cast to ListUIElement.
but you are programming against an interface, IEnumerableUIElement,
and your code will break if the implementation of the method you are
calling changes. And you may not have control over that.
consider the console app below. the first cast works, iterating over
the IEnumerable works in the second case, but the third causes a
runtime error because the code has assumed it knows how the
GetStringsFromQueue() method is storing the data internally.
class Program
{
static void Main(string[] args)
{
// Works by luck
((Liststring)GetStringsFromList()).ForEach(i =
Console.WriteLine(i));
Console.ReadKey();
// Works as designed
foreach (string s in GetStringsFromQueue())
{
Console.WriteLine(s);
}
Console.ReadKey();
// Runtime error
((Liststring)GetStringsFromQueue()).ForEach(i =
Console.WriteLine(i));
Console.ReadKey();
}
private static IEnumerablestring GetStringsFromQueue()
{
System.Collections.Generic.Queuestring ret = new Queuestring();
ret.Enqueue(D);
ret.Enqueue(E);
ret.Enqueue(F);
return ret;
}
private static IEnumerablestring GetStringsFromList()
{
Liststring ret = new Liststring();
ret.Add(A);
ret.Add(B);
ret.Add(C);
return ret;
}
}
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:52 AM, .net noobie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
no it works
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:15 AM, ross jempson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wouldn't this option you presented create a runtime cast error anyway?
ListUIElement elements =
(ListUIElement)VisualTreeHelper.FindElementsInHostCoordinates(e.GetPosition(null),this);
Hence .ToList() is better I would suggest.
Another thing to consider is whether you actually need a List which
forces the list to be fully populated. Leaving it as an IEnumerable
will be more effecient in some scenarios, as the datasource may be
lazy loading.
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:26 AM, .net noobie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Thanks, I found this link for a ListBox version
needed to update the .HitTest to SL2 and it works fine
I only wanted a single column, I used a DataGrid because I was being
lazy
and wanted to use the DataGrid Header, but I will just make that for a
ListBox :)
changed this line for SL2
ListUIElement elements =
(ListUIElement)this.HitTest(e.GetPosition(null));
to
ListUIElement elements =
(ListUIElement)VisualTreeHelper.FindElementsInHostCoordinates(e.GetPosition(null),
this);
http://cid-71b364b59919d1e8.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/blog%20files/dragdrop|_updated.zip
which is the better way to do this line?
ListUIElement elements =
(ListUIElement)VisualTreeHelper.FindElementsInHostCoordinates(e.GetPosition(null),
this);
or
ListUIElement elements =
VisualTreeHelper.FindElementsInHostCoordinates(e.GetPosition(null),
this).ToList();
which one takes more work under the covers to make the conversion to a
list?
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Valentin Stoychev
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hope you will not treat this as an advertisement.
Take a look at this example from the Telerik QuickStart Application.
http://demos.telerik.com/silverlight/#Examples/DragAndDrop/FirstLook
It is using the Telerik Drag/Drop framework that do exactly what you
need,
but with listboxes. Modifying the sample a little bit will do the job
for a
DataGrid.
Regards,
Valentin Stoychev
Telerik
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Stephen Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I got drag and drop between listboxes working in a prototype I was
working on few months ago.
I used canvas's and a method that checked for a collision/overlap
between
the two elements when you did the drop.
Used the standard mouse approach of move events while button down to
animate the dragging around part. Had to clone the image element
myself as
no clone in Silverlight. I've since had an idea of another way to copy
the
image but haven't been back to test out my idea. (maybe using brush
source -
you know how you can have video brushes all pointing at same source?
wondering if that would work with an image
[OzSilverlight] RE: Introducing the Silverlight Designer and Developer Network
I forgot to mention in the initial email that we are keeping things interesting: Win a Full MSDN Subscription!! Come along on the night and enter the draw to win a full MSDN subscription worth almost $20k!!! All you have to do is show up and enter the draw! The winner will be drawn after the presentations, so stick around. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 2:02 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Introducing the Silverlight Designer and Developer Network Introducing the Silverlight Designer and Developer Networkhttp://blog.webjak.net/2008/10/20/introducing-the-silverlight-designer-and-developer-network/ It gives me great pleasure to announce the Silverlight Designer and Developer Network, a new community group in Melbourne for Silverlight designers and developers alike! Lets meet! The group's first meeting is on Thursday November 27 at 5:30 PM for a 6:00 PM start. The venue is Microsoft Theatre, Level 5, 4 Freshwater Place, Southbank. We have some great speakers lined up for you: Shane Morris from Microsoft and Jonas Follesø from Capgemini. These guys have tons of experience in Silverlight and have presented many times on the subject, including fantastic talks at TechEd. To register interest head over to http://www.sddn.org.au. Registering your interest helps us organise the meetings! Who will this group interest? The focus of the group is not just on developers. Traditionally developers have had great community support, whereas designers not so much... now that Silverlight 2 is out we plan to change this. Silverlight is as interesting for developers as it is for designers. Due in part to Silverlight's excellent separation of design and development concerns we have new problems to solve around finding the best ways to work together. To this end the SDDN will facilitate an ongoing discussion and promote the development of ideas and best practices for anyone who works with Silverlight. Meetings will also include specialist topics targeted at designers or developers at a range of levels. It's got something for everyone [cid:image001.gif@01C932F1.05407FB0] The Site A big part of the group is the site, which will include all sorts of goodies once we launch it later in the year, including blog syndication and more importantly all the presentations will be available for download! Stay tuned for more updates at a later stage. And.. please note that the current site is just a temporary site! Cheers, Jordan --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1731 - Release Date: 19/10/2008 6:02 PM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net inline: image001.gif
RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?
The reason: tools they know (VS2008), same language on client/server, and consistent API/documentation/tooling (compared to the web where you have to know multiple technologies to do it well). +1 - but don't forget designers here... there aren't really any good tools to bridge the gap from design to JS. This is why I think that even though JS is getting faster and faster with engines like TraceMonkey and V8 I just can't see it passing the usability/creatability (sic) test that designers require... i.e. they will continue to be scared of it. SL and Flash are far more friendly environments for our designing comrades. Add in a compiler, testability and familiarity for developers and the environment is nicer all round. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 9:27 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Hi, First on the AJAX/JavaScript comment: I completely agree. This is something I mentioned in the Future of the web discussion panel at Tech Ed in Sydney. I think that in the end JavaScript might be a stronger competitor to Silverlight than Flash. JavaScript is getting significant faster in Chrome, FireFox and Safari (and Microsoft is playing catch-up in IE8). New frameworks like jQuery (now embraced by Microsoft) is making it easier to build rich JavaScript based applications, and the tooling support is also getting more solid. By using plain AJAX/JavaScript you don't have to depend on any add-in or vendor lock-in. In the future Canvas and Video, when ever implemented in all browsers, might make AJAX/JavaScript an even more compelling alternative to Flash and Silverlight. That being said I am big Silverlight 2 fan, and definitely think the technology is ready for main-stream development work. I think Silverlight 2 will be an easier alternative for businesses wanting to build Rich Internet Applications. The reason: tools they know (VS2008), same language on client/server, and consistent API/documentation/tooling (compared to the web where you have to know multiple technologies to do it well). I also think that the requirements and expectations within (internal) line of business applications will go up as the users get used to great online user experiences on the public web. These users will expect something more inside the company, and I think that in the future having great internal software might be a differentiator for companies wanting to recruit information workers. As to the Flex vs Silverlight 2 decision I don't know enough about Flex to really comment on it. However, I think that most of us have seen great examples of Flash-based RIAs, so the technology is more than capable of delivering great applications. One of my current favorites is http://www.sliderocket.com/. So if you and your team knows Flex, and the company sees that as a important technology in the future, by all means use it! That makes perfect business sense. What I'm saying is that Silverlight 2 feels a need for the .NET/Microsoft development crowd who is comfortable in VS2008 and C#, and now need to meet higher expectations to deliver great user experiences online. - Jonas On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:08 AM, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want me to give you a run sheet of our entire game plan so you can run it off to your buddies at Adobe, think again bazza :) think again! :) Sorry, nice try but no cigar. no, Scott, it's not that. I actually don't cut much code anymore these days: analysis, design, recommendations, etc. I'm trying to get a deeper understanding on SL's place in the world now/soon and I'm not going to recommend spending resources on cutting edge (if not bleeding edge) if it's not yet worth it to solve real business problems. I don't work in a design agency, I don't work with general-public-facing web. I mean, because I know Flex, I can see more than one option so I'm looking at ROI, product differentiation, what works for where and why, alternatives**, etc. E.g: SL's use of C#, while important for teams, can be negated in other ways: what Peter DeHaan at Adobe is up, etc. As for getting SL infront of eyeballs, I've already given you one suggestion - but I do admit cross-department logistics make it a long shot, which is a shame. so I *am* pumping you for information, Scott, but not for the reasons you think. But you did do a good job shedding a bit more light a couple of emails back, and for that many thanks. barry.b out. ** I've come across more than one example where a DHTML/Ajax-y app would work better than what's been served up with Flex. Perhaps both Flex and SL share a competitor there? --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by
RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?
Agree... There is plenty of content/reference and *some* good tools out there... and there are defininately tons of templates etc... But... Those templates are for pretty sites.. not AJAX enabled apps :) I.e. not an RIA - basically you don't get RIA from JS unless you are a developer of some kind (or perhaps you could end up with a crappy RIA hehe) - either way Silverlight (and Flash/Flex) bridges this gap quite nicely. The creation process in SL is nicely workflowed through the expression suite. JS/AJAX lacks that glue (keep in mind I am an AJAX developer from way back). And a desiger that knows some jQuery and CSS... you could argue they are more a devigner. You can see the interest building from the design camp from the sessions at ReMix and TechEd... didn't see that many designers when they launched ASP.NET AJAX :) Cheers, Jordan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 12:43 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? True, but there is heaps of web designers out there who knows CSS and HTML. So the designer friendliness might tip both ways when comparing traditional web applications and Silverlight (at least at the moment). You can also buy tons of HTML templates and designs online you can include in your application, something currently not as available for WPF/Silverlight. For the interactive part you're right, there isn't any good JavaScript tools at the moment to help designers. However, there are jQuery books and tutorials focusing on the interactive styling and animation aspects of jQuery (rather than the AJAX data stuff). CSS selectors is a key concepts in jQuery, and something widely used and understood by web designers, making jQuery a really approachable JavaScript library even for designers. But yes - as designers starts to pick up on Blend, and we as developers understand how to architect our applications to make them designer-friendly, we can see some great developer-designer workflows. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Jordan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason: tools they know (VS2008), same language on client/server, and consistent API/documentation/tooling (compared to the web where you have to know multiple technologies to do it well). +1 - but don't forget designers here... there aren't really any good tools to bridge the gap from design to JS. This is why I think that even though JS is getting faster and faster with engines like TraceMonkey and V8 I just can't see it passing the usability/creatability (sic) test that designers require... i.e. they will continue to be scared of it. SL and Flash are far more friendly environments for our designing comrades. Add in a compiler, testability and familiarity for developers and the environment is nicer all round. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Monday, 20 October 2008 9:27 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.commailto:listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Hi, First on the AJAX/JavaScript comment: I completely agree. This is something I mentioned in the Future of the web discussion panel at Tech Ed in Sydney. I think that in the end JavaScript might be a stronger competitor to Silverlight than Flash. JavaScript is getting significant faster in Chrome, FireFox and Safari (and Microsoft is playing catch-up in IE8). New frameworks like jQuery (now embraced by Microsoft) is making it easier to build rich JavaScript based applications, and the tooling support is also getting more solid. By using plain AJAX/JavaScript you don't have to depend on any add-in or vendor lock-in. In the future Canvas and Video, when ever implemented in all browsers, might make AJAX/JavaScript an even more compelling alternative to Flash and Silverlight. That being said I am big Silverlight 2 fan, and definitely think the technology is ready for main-stream development work. I think Silverlight 2 will be an easier alternative for businesses wanting to build Rich Internet Applications. The reason: tools they know (VS2008), same language on client/server, and consistent API/documentation/tooling (compared to the web where you have to know multiple technologies to do it well). I also think that the requirements and expectations within (internal) line of business applications will go up as the users get used to great online user experiences on the public web. These users will expect something more inside the company, and I think that in the future having great internal software might be a differentiator for companies wanting to recruit information workers. As to the Flex vs Silverlight 2 decision I don't know enough about Flex to really comment on it. However, I think that most
RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?
Lucky Silverlight has so many great tools to crank out XAML for you :) At the end of the day is there really any more work in style creation than with something like CSS? At the end of the day you aren't being forced to trawl though pages of XAML if you don't so desire :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Friday, 17 October 2008 12:13 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Hi Stephen, I agree with your comments related to .NET expertise. But even though I do't know about Flex but I want to say that lot of XAML markup is generated when we are building out styles in App.xaml, and even Designing is also tough for developer point of view :( Thanks Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd. +92 321 569 4195 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:01 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Hi Muhammad, I can't really comment on Flex but the little I've seen showed me that both technologies were/are moving in similar directions, which you'd expect as they have a similar problem to solve. I can say though, that learning XAML is not a waste given that WPF also uses it. Anything you can do in XAML can be done in code but usually there's fewer lines of XAML to do the same thing. I love working with Silverlight and if it's easy to use and nice to code then people are more likely to use it, meaning over time it will increase market share. I think the biggest thing going for Silverlight is you can use your .Net skills. There's 4 million+ .Net developers out there apparently so that's a lot of people who already know enough to pick it up run with it. cheers, Stephen On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Muhammad Niaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, So SL released finally, I LOVE it but I have to lot code in XAML for Designing stylying etc. I want to say if we compare to other RIA Technologies like Flex etc. There features and related to developer point of view, are they easy to learn, develop, mean in minimum time we can do lot of work. For example?. And what are the core feature of SL which unique it and add value in it.? Thanks Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd. +92 321 569 4195 --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com/ - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1721 - Release Date: 15/10/2008 7:29 AM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?
Just on the success of SL in the RIA space... The hard sell is going to be to the designers... they are in many ways married to Adobe PS, but this doesn't they have to stay married to Flash/Flex. They key is, they don't have to stop using PS to do their designs - showing them how easy it is to go from PS / IL to Expression Design/Blend is the goal. Also, showing designers just how many great C# developers are out there to take away their ActionScript/Flex pain so they can concentrate on designs and not program implementation will help attract more designers. I'd put money on there being more C# developers out there than Action Script developers - and that on average the C# developer has more experience (i.e. they are *better* :)). We are starting a new user group called the Silverlight Designer and Developer Network in Melbourne (first meeting Nov 27th - a formal announcement coming soon) especially to help bridge this gap... My observation is that traditionally designers don't have a lot of SIG/community stuff they attend regularly - hopefully the SDDN can buck that trend. Each meeting will have content for designers and content for developers - including lots of content on bridging the gap between the two camps. Bringing designers and developers together regularly creating dialog is the first step to making Silverlight a great success. All sessions recorded and available for free on the site after the meet! As I said there will be a formal announcement very soon so stay posted. Jordan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Friday, 17 October 2008 9:53 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Lucky Silverlight has so many great tools to crank out XAML for you :) At the end of the day is there really any more work in style creation than with something like CSS? At the end of the day you aren't being forced to trawl though pages of XAML if you don't so desire :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Muhammad Niaz Sent: Friday, 17 October 2008 12:13 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Hi Stephen, I agree with your comments related to .NET expertise. But even though I do't know about Flex but I want to say that lot of XAML markup is generated when we are building out styles in App.xaml, and even Designing is also tough for developer point of view :( Thanks Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd. +92 321 569 4195 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 10:01 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? Hi Muhammad, I can't really comment on Flex but the little I've seen showed me that both technologies were/are moving in similar directions, which you'd expect as they have a similar problem to solve. I can say though, that learning XAML is not a waste given that WPF also uses it. Anything you can do in XAML can be done in code but usually there's fewer lines of XAML to do the same thing. I love working with Silverlight and if it's easy to use and nice to code then people are more likely to use it, meaning over time it will increase market share. I think the biggest thing going for Silverlight is you can use your .Net skills. There's 4 million+ .Net developers out there apparently so that's a lot of people who already know enough to pick it up run with it. cheers, Stephen On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Muhammad Niaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, So SL released finally, I LOVE it but I have to lot code in XAML for Designing stylying etc. I want to say if we compare to other RIA Technologies like Flex etc. There features and related to developer point of view, are they easy to learn, develop, mean in minimum time we can do lot of work. For example?. And what are the core feature of SL which unique it and add value in it.? Thanks Regards, Muhammad Niaz Software Engineer Intagleo Systems Pvt Ltd. +92 321 569 4195 --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com/ - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered
RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?
the client runtime availability (the SL player Vs the Flash Player) and therefore the potential reach of the application (so what's wrong with SL being the perfect choice for inhouse apps with a fixed Windows-based SOE?) end-users already install flash readily - do you think that most end-users wouldn't even know what they are installing anyway and will install Silverlight on request without batting an eyelid? Also... how long until SL2 comes down in Windows Update?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 17 October 2008 11:00 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Damian Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually there's probably less work because XAML is a controlled and strict environment the tooling is much better and can be trusted more. Using the designer and palettes in Expression Web or VS2008 to build your CSS styles is not WYSIWYG and for experienced CSS coders is actually, usually, slower. Compare that to Blend where creating reusable styles is a joy. so you're saying the development road-bumps are smoothed by the tooling for Silverlight? I wonder what you make of this then? http://www.sdtimes.com/MICROSOFT_CO_SPONSORS_ECLIPSE_PROJECT_FOR_SILVERLIGHT/About_OPENSOURCE_and_SILVERLIGHT_and_ECLIPSE_and_MICROSOFT_and_SOYATEC/32968 Look, at the end of the day, there's not going to be a lot of difference between Flex and Silverlight. an XML-type markup language to describe the UI, a Java-type language for logic and object creation. Meh. Same (basic) leopard, different spots. Tooling *is* important with quality intellesence, and designer-built interfaces. That's why in the Flex world the tool of choice (not exclusive) is built on Eclipse - to smooth the transition for those Java and ColdFusion developers working with Flex. Couple that with Adobe designer products pushing out Flex UI's. Microsoft has always had quality tooling with VisualStudio but where the battle will be fought (and it doesn't have to be red team Vs blue team but simply horses for courses) is ... (in order, my opinion) - the client runtime availability (the SL player Vs the Flash Player) and therefore the potential reach of the application (so what's wrong with SL being the perfect choice for inhouse apps with a fixed Windows-based SOE?) - numbers of developers (no point coming up with cool tools/technology if no one uses it) - resources to help those developers (getting started / moving forward) --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1721 - Release Date: 16/10/2008 7:12 PM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?
- numbers of developers (no point coming up with cool tools/technology if no one uses it) - resources to help those developers (getting started / moving forward) As I said before, iI think c# developers are the easy sell... I think more focus needs to be placed on designers to get this puppy off the ground. BTW I am a developer by all means... I don't have a lot of design experience (well I think I do sometimes)... I need and want good developers who know their way around the required bits of SL/Expression to work with in the future. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 17 October 2008 11:00 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Damian Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually there's probably less work because XAML is a controlled and strict environment the tooling is much better and can be trusted more. Using the designer and palettes in Expression Web or VS2008 to build your CSS styles is not WYSIWYG and for experienced CSS coders is actually, usually, slower. Compare that to Blend where creating reusable styles is a joy. so you're saying the development road-bumps are smoothed by the tooling for Silverlight? I wonder what you make of this then? http://www.sdtimes.com/MICROSOFT_CO_SPONSORS_ECLIPSE_PROJECT_FOR_SILVERLIGHT/About_OPENSOURCE_and_SILVERLIGHT_and_ECLIPSE_and_MICROSOFT_and_SOYATEC/32968 Look, at the end of the day, there's not going to be a lot of difference between Flex and Silverlight. an XML-type markup language to describe the UI, a Java-type language for logic and object creation. Meh. Same (basic) leopard, different spots. Tooling *is* important with quality intellesence, and designer-built interfaces. That's why in the Flex world the tool of choice (not exclusive) is built on Eclipse - to smooth the transition for those Java and ColdFusion developers working with Flex. Couple that with Adobe designer products pushing out Flex UI's. Microsoft has always had quality tooling with VisualStudio but where the battle will be fought (and it doesn't have to be red team Vs blue team but simply horses for courses) is ... (in order, my opinion) - the client runtime availability (the SL player Vs the Flash Player) and therefore the potential reach of the application (so what's wrong with SL being the perfect choice for inhouse apps with a fixed Windows-based SOE?) - numbers of developers (no point coming up with cool tools/technology if no one uses it) - resources to help those developers (getting started / moving forward) --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1721 - Release Date: 16/10/2008 7:12 PM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.?
You're saying developers can't transfer their skills from one language to another I'm not saying they can't... I'm suggesting they don't want to transfer from C# to anything else, .NET is addictive. Like many developers I only work where I want to. Now I can work in my favourite language on client side too! but C# doesn't have a monopoly on application developers I'm not saying it does, but as far as development languages go in the RIA space (well SL v's Flash/Flex/ActionScript anyway) goes - C# has it... Add to that C# skills can be used to make the server side software as well - far more value for money here. If I was evaluating which language to learn - how could I choose the language that binds me to client side development?? I choose the language that I can apply to pretty much anything. C# is also far better supported - Google = 17million hits for ActionScript vs 70million for C#. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie Sent: Friday, 17 October 2008 2:46 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Success or Failure of SL.? showing them how easy it is to go from PS / IL to Expression Design/Blend is the goal. how? I'd put money on there being more C# developers out there than Action Script developers ahhh... but that's the mistake. You're saying developers can't transfer their skills from one language to another. In Microsoft development there's a lot of C# developers... but then again, there's a lot of Java developers out there ... - and that on average the C# developer has more experience (i.e. they are *better* :)). sure. Designers are designers, not application developers. but C# doesn't have a monopoly on application developers. Not only that, but Flex and SL development need not be any different to traditional software development where the tasks are split between people with different skills. You don't need one person to do it all. you need workflow to move the project from one pair of hands to another. I've come across a lot of crap UX made by C# developers... and when was the last time you came across a really good UI from a Java program? --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzSilverlight] Arrow keys
Hey all Is anyone able to help me capture arrow key presses in SL RC0? I can cap other keys, but not arrows. I have a fairly complex layout with scrolls etc, and I've tried putting the keyb handlers all up and down the tree. Cheers, Jordan --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Arrow keys
It's key down (has to be, as they can hold down an arrow to move things). I can capture other keys no problem, just arrows don't fire. My Googleing suggests that this is an old issue (1.1 had some issues), but there isn't a lot of information out there on this issue from what I can tell. If I can't do arrows, then i'll have to implement the same functionality with WSAD :) Cheers, Jordan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Perry Stathopoulos Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2008 8:48 AM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Arrow keys Haven't tried it out myself, but are you hooking into the KeyDown or KeyUp? I was having issues capturing some keys with KeyDown, but once I changed to KeyUp everything worked wonderfully. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:44 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Arrow keys Hey all Is anyone able to help me capture arrow key presses in SL RC0? I can cap other keys, but not arrows. I have a fairly complex layout with scrolls etc, and I've tried putting the keyb handlers all up and down the tree. Cheers, Jordan --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1714 - Release Date: 10/8/2008 7:01 AM --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Colorful Expression Add-In
LOL spammer :P From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2008 8:19 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Colorful Expression Add-In Hi, Tried sending this mail two days ago, but the e-mail list has been down for some reason, so trying again: Just want to tell you about Colorful Expression, a project I've been working on a couple of weeks. It's an add-in for Expression Blend and Design (but can be run as a standalone application as well). The add-in brings your Adobe Kuler into Blend/Design as a new panel. Adobe Kuler (http://kuler.adobe.com ) is a great online RIA to create color themes. You select a base color, and it has different rule sets to help you find four matching colors. You can save your color themes online and share them with the community. The project (screen shots, downloads and code) is available over at http://www.codeplex.com/colorful . Cheers, Jonas Follesø --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Testing
ahhh back on the grid :P From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Friday, 3 October 2008 2:25 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Testing It is! woho :) On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Damian Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Testing if list server is back up Regards, Damian Edwards Microsoft MVPhttps://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Damian.Edwards | ASP/ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET Readify | Senior Consultant Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: 0448 545 868 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | C: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ The content of this e-mail, including any attachments is a confidential communication between Readify Pty Ltd and the intended addressee and is for the sole use of that intended addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and then delete the message and any attachment(s). --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzSilverlight] Build Ninject for Silverlight
Hi Guys, I need to build Ninject to get the latest updates (against SL). I have the SVN repo checked out, just wondering how to actually build the SL assemblies. Cheers, Jordan. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Friday, 3 October 2008 2:27 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Colorful Expression Hi, Now that the list is finally up again I figured I could celebrate by spamming it with my Colorful Expression Codeplex project: Just want to tell you about Colorful Expression, a project I've been working on a couple of weeks. It's an add-in for Expression Blend and Design (but can be run as a standalone application as well). The add-in brings your Adobe Kuler into Blend/Design as a new panel. Adobe Kuler (http://kuler.adobe.com ) is a great online RIA to create color themes. You select a base color, and it has different rule sets to help you find four matching colors. You can save your color themes online and share them with the community. The project (screen shots, downloads and code) is available over at http://www.codeplex.com/colorful . Cheers, Jonas --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: new users, create roles, change role assignment etc. they are the things I wanted to do... so really I would be better off handling all this in the ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET page that is hosting my Silverlight Applications and then talking too and from the ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET page with my Silverlight Application to do these things? then to stop the page reloading I would need to do these tasks new users, create roles, change role assignment etc. via something like MS AJAX...? On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Jonas Follesø [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a Silverlight client point of view, what else do you really need? Everything that has to do with validation, accessing user store etc. has to happen on the server and not on the client. Some thing, like Authorization (does this user belong to this role) is useful from the UI, as you can enable/disable certain buttons and functionality. But in the end you have to redo all the validation on the server as you can't trust any input coming from the client. The reason you got allot more functionality in ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET is because you're running on the server, and that is a whole different ball game. You got functionality to create new users, create roles, change role assignment etc. To do those things from a Silverlight client you would have to expose (and secure) the individual pieces your self. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:00 PM, .net noobie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Authentication Application Service, via WCF is a very limited set of functionality compared to what you have in a ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET page, you can do a few things like Login, Logout and one to two there things right..? when I was checking it out I ended up making a normal WCF service for my Silverlight application, then adding the membership to it via just wrapping the methods of the Membership class I wanted, but it also had a few issues doing it that way to, but I got all the parts of Membership I wanted to use...? is this a bad way to go about it in the future? please note it was just a learning application for myself, so I was not really worried about any security issues passing the data back and forth at the time On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Ross McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to both of you. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:44 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions You where slowed down by all the extra detail :) Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:42 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.commailto:listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Haha - looks like you beat me too by 5 min Jordan ;) On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Jordan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Ross :) - not Michael. Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:35 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi Michael, I can answer 1 and 3 for you (and maybe a bit of 4): The short answer is Forms Authentication and/or ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET membership - i.e. use the normal stuff :). Whenever Silverlight accesses the server, it uses the standard browser networking stack, so you will have access to session state, cookies and all the other goodies you expect. To find out which user is logged in you can use the ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET Authentication Application Service, which can be exposed via WCF quite easily (then you can log in and check login status etc from Silverlight). 4 is a little more tricky, but basically you could hook up events to AJAX changes in the page then fire through pieces of information to Silverlight using the HTML JavaScript bridge... It's quite easy to do, have a Google around. Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED
[OzSilverlight] Canvas Overflow
Hi all, I can't for the life of me figure out how to stop elements in a canvas from overflowing :) I want to truncate content when is too big :) Cheers, Jordan --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Canvas Overflow
I ended up hacking it a bit...
I wanted to bind the values for the clip (as you can move the item around the
screen) - i.e. it's a magnifying glass for an image...
You can't do this though:
Canvas.Clip
RectangleGeometry Rect={Binding MyRect}/
Where myrect is a Rect object from the ViewModel...
I ended up doing this in c# -
Private Sub doClip()
Dim avmb As AnnotationViewModelBase = CType(DataContext,
AnnotationViewModelBase)
Dim r As New Rect(0, 0, avmb.ConfiguredWidth, avmb.ConfiguredHeight)
Dim rect As New RectangleGeometry()
rect.Rect = r
LayoutRoot.Clip = rect
avmb.ConfiguredWidth is from the ViewModel and changes as the drags happen...
I'm not happy with this solution so if anyone can tell me how to bind to that
Clip stuff...
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Sent: Friday, 19 September 2008 3:14 PM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Canvas Overflow
Could you used a ScrollViewer, might not be exactly what you after, but might
be able to stop your canvas from going bigger than you wanted?
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Jordan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL
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Hi all,
I can't for the life of me figure out how to stop elements in a canvas from
overflowing :)
I want to truncate content when is too big :)
Cheers,
Jordan
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RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions
Hi Michael, I can answer 1 and 3 for you (and maybe a bit of 4): The short answer is Forms Authentication and/or ASP.NET membership - i.e. use the normal stuff :). Whenever Silverlight accesses the server, it uses the standard browser networking stack, so you will have access to session state, cookies and all the other goodies you expect. To find out which user is logged in you can use the ASP.NET Authentication Application Service, which can be exposed via WCF quite easily (then you can log in and check login status etc from Silverlight). 4 is a little more tricky, but basically you could hook up events to AJAX changes in the page then fire through pieces of information to Silverlight using the HTML JavaScript bridge... It's quite easy to do, have a Google around. Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:20 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi all, I am the CIO of Michael Hill Jeweller which is an international (US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia) jewellery retail chain whose global head office is based in Brisbane and we are in the process of replacing our global website. The executive here are very excited by the opportunities presented by silverlight and we will be developing the new site using this technology and are trying to release it as soon as possible. I did have a couple of questions which I have posed to Microsoft, but they have been unable to answer and most of them are directed towards my personally perceived weaknesses of silverlight and I was hoping that someone would be able to point out how they can be achieved. Hopefully our work arounds are not the suggested best practice. 1) What is the best way of persisting user identity through multiple silverlight pages? 2) It appears to me that linq to SQL entities seem to lose the ability to maintain state (ie know what is changed) after passing through a wcf call and silverlight treats it like a normal class. Is that the case and if so, is that going to be changed? 3) What is the best practice for integrating security and sessions between asp.net / silverlight / wcf? 4) Are there plans for a binary formatter in the silverlight framework? 5) I have been overlaying silverlight pages over aspx with master and content pages. The largest issue with that is being able to pass information between your master and content pages (easily achievable in aspx), but are there any plans to implement a method to easily pass information between SL pages on the client (usually user specific information), other than at creation of the page. Thanks for any help in advance, Ross. 18/9/2008 Ross McKinnon listserver@ozSilverlight.com This email and any attachments (Email) are intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged, confidential and/or disclosure-exempt information. You must not edit this Email without our express consent. Michael Hill Jeweller (Australia) Pty Ltd does not warrant that this Email is complete, error-free or virus free, and by opening any attachments, you accept full responsibility for the consequences. If you are not the addressee, you must not disseminate, rely upon or copy this Email, and you must immediately erase permanently and destroy all records of it and notify us by phone (at our cost). Thank you. --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions
Sorry Ross :) - not Michael. Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:35 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi Michael, I can answer 1 and 3 for you (and maybe a bit of 4): The short answer is Forms Authentication and/or ASP.NET membership - i.e. use the normal stuff :). Whenever Silverlight accesses the server, it uses the standard browser networking stack, so you will have access to session state, cookies and all the other goodies you expect. To find out which user is logged in you can use the ASP.NET Authentication Application Service, which can be exposed via WCF quite easily (then you can log in and check login status etc from Silverlight). 4 is a little more tricky, but basically you could hook up events to AJAX changes in the page then fire through pieces of information to Silverlight using the HTML JavaScript bridge... It's quite easy to do, have a Google around. Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:20 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi all, I am the CIO of Michael Hill Jeweller which is an international (US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia) jewellery retail chain whose global head office is based in Brisbane and we are in the process of replacing our global website. The executive here are very excited by the opportunities presented by silverlight and we will be developing the new site using this technology and are trying to release it as soon as possible. I did have a couple of questions which I have posed to Microsoft, but they have been unable to answer and most of them are directed towards my personally perceived weaknesses of silverlight and I was hoping that someone would be able to point out how they can be achieved. Hopefully our work arounds are not the suggested best practice. 1) What is the best way of persisting user identity through multiple silverlight pages? 2) It appears to me that linq to SQL entities seem to lose the ability to maintain state (ie know what is changed) after passing through a wcf call and silverlight treats it like a normal class. Is that the case and if so, is that going to be changed? 3) What is the best practice for integrating security and sessions between asp.net / silverlight / wcf? 4) Are there plans for a binary formatter in the silverlight framework? 5) I have been overlaying silverlight pages over aspx with master and content pages. The largest issue with that is being able to pass information between your master and content pages (easily achievable in aspx), but are there any plans to implement a method to easily pass information between SL pages on the client (usually user specific information), other than at creation of the page. Thanks for any help in advance, Ross. 18/9/2008 Ross McKinnon listserver@ozSilverlight.com This email and any attachments (Email) are intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged, confidential and/or disclosure-exempt information. You must not edit this Email without our express consent. Michael Hill Jeweller (Australia) Pty Ltd does not warrant that this Email is complete, error-free or virus free, and by opening any attachments, you accept full responsibility for the consequences. If you are not the addressee, you must not disseminate, rely upon or copy this Email, and you must immediately erase permanently and destroy all records of it and notify us by phone (at our cost). Thank you. --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions
You where slowed down by all the extra detail :) Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:42 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Haha - looks like you beat me too by 5 min Jordan ;) On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Jordan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Ross :) - not Michael. Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:35 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi Michael, I can answer 1 and 3 for you (and maybe a bit of 4): The short answer is Forms Authentication and/or ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET membership - i.e. use the normal stuff :). Whenever Silverlight accesses the server, it uses the standard browser networking stack, so you will have access to session state, cookies and all the other goodies you expect. To find out which user is logged in you can use the ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET Authentication Application Service, which can be exposed via WCF quite easily (then you can log in and check login status etc from Silverlight). 4 is a little more tricky, but basically you could hook up events to AJAX changes in the page then fire through pieces of information to Silverlight using the HTML JavaScript bridge... It's quite easy to do, have a Google around. Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:20 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] A couple of questions Hi all, I am the CIO of Michael Hill Jeweller which is an international (US, Canada, New Zealand, Australia) jewellery retail chain whose global head office is based in Brisbane and we are in the process of replacing our global website. The executive here are very excited by the opportunities presented by silverlight and we will be developing the new site using this technology and are trying to release it as soon as possible. I did have a couple of questions which I have posed to Microsoft, but they have been unable to answer and most of them are directed towards my personally perceived weaknesses of silverlight and I was hoping that someone would be able to point out how they can be achieved. Hopefully our work arounds are not the suggested best practice. 1) What is the best way of persisting user identity through multiple silverlight pages? 2) It appears to me that linq to SQL entities seem to lose the ability to maintain state (ie know what is changed) after passing through a wcf call and silverlight treats it like a normal class. Is that the case and if so, is that going to be changed? 3) What is the best practice for integrating security and sessions between asp.nethttp://asp.net / silverlight / wcf? 4) Are there plans for a binary formatter in the silverlight framework? 5) I have been overlaying silverlight pages over aspx with master and content pages. The largest issue with that is being able to pass information between your master and content pages (easily achievable in aspx), but are there any plans to implement a method to easily pass information between SL pages on the client (usually user specific information), other than at creation of the page. Thanks for any help in advance, Ross. 18/9/2008 Ross McKinnon listserver@ozSilverlight.com This email and any attachments (Email) are intended only for the addressee and may contain privileged, confidential and/or disclosure-exempt information. You must not edit this Email without our express consent. Michael Hill Jeweller (Australia) Pty Ltd does not warrant that this Email is complete, error-free or virus free, and by opening any attachments, you accept full responsibility for the consequences. If you are not the addressee, you must not disseminate, rely upon or copy this Email, and you must immediately erase permanently and destroy all records of it and notify us by phone (at our cost). Thank you. --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from
RE: [OzSilverlight] RE: Setting SL contol top 100%
Oh wait, that is from ASPX... can you adjust the containing div from within
Silverlight without going over JS bridge yourself?
This feels a little hack-ish:
HtmlPage.Document.GetElementById(commentsSection).SetStyleAttribute(height,
string.Format({0}px, acutalHeight));
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 7:04 PM
To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com
Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] RE: Setting SL contol top 100%
Cool, looks a bit easier than my hack going across the JS bridge :)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 6:33 PM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] RE: Setting SL contol top 100%
the Unit(100%) works for me. If I change the plugin background to a different
colour I can see it using 100% of the browser.
What I'm puzzled about is that I can't see the silverlight page contents, its
blank.
namespace SLPluginWeb {
public partial class _Default : System.Web.UI.Page {
protected void Page_Load(object sender, EventArgs e) {
Silverlight silverlightControl = new Silverlight();
silverlightControl.ID = TechEd2008;
silverlightControl.Width = new Unit(100%);
silverlightControl.Height = new Unit(100%);
silverlightControl.MinimumVersion = 2.0.30523;
silverlightControl.PluginBackground = Color.Red;
silverlightControl.Source = ~/ClientBin/SLPlugin.xap;
this.Controls.Add(silverlightControl);
}
}
}
in the on_PageLoad, it gives me a blank control. I've just got a button in the
silverlight page which loads fine from the html test page.
Can't seem to find a good example of silverlight controls being added from
asp.nethttp://asp.net code behind.
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Jordan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL
PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry that was worded badly:
The post outlines how to re-size the containing div to the same size as the
content (it stretches and contracts as you do stuff in the Silverlight
control).. this is cool for something like a comments control where users can
keep adding more comments and the control needs to stretch down the page).
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 6:17 PM
To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com
Subject: [OzSilverlight] RE: Setting SL contol top 100%
Hey Phil,
I wrote a little blog post here
http://jakkaj.wordpress.com/2008/07/05/resize-silverlight-control-div/ on how
to control the size of the control from code. This code makes it the size that
is required automatically, but I'm sure you can adapt it :)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Philip Beadle
Sent: Monday, 1 September 2008 4:56 PM
To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com
Subject: [OzSilverlight] Setting SL contol top 100%
Any ideas how to set the control width and height in code to 100%?
Dim silverlightControl As New
System.Web.UI.SilverlightControls.Silverlight
silverlightControl.ID = TechEd2008
silverlightControl.MinimumVersion = 2.0.30523
silverlightControl.Source = ~/ClientBin/SL_TechEd.xap
silverlightControl.Width = 700
silverlightControl.Height = 700
Dim initParams As String =
String.Format(ModuleId={0},IsEditable={1}, ModuleId.ToString,
Me.ModuleContext.IsEditable)
silverlightControl.InitParameters = initParams
phSilverlight.Controls.Add(silverlightControl)
Regards,
Philip Beadle
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RE: [OzSilverlight] Linq to sql
Hi Stephen,
You are having a tricky few days :)
Sometimes LINQ to SQL config issues can arise when you have your LINQ classes
in another assembly...
If this is the case you may be able to get around it by following these steps:
* In you LINQ to SQL designer (on the dbml file) - go to Properties and
remove the Connection field.
* This re-creates the LINQ class with a new constructor that wasn't
there before you can utilise to override connection strings
* Create a new cs file to house a partial class:
public partial class MainDataDataContext
{
public MainDataDataContext() :
base(System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings[someConnSring].ConnectionString,
mappingSource)
{
OnCreated();
}
}
MainDataDataContext is the same class that was created by the LINQ designer.
This way you can explicitly control your connection string.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 11:17 PM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: [OzSilverlight] Linq to sql
Hey all,
I was having a problem with my WCF web service talking to the database. I'm
using Linq to SQL, and discovered that it stores the connection strings in
settings in the project. If the string in the web.config is not found then it
falls back to the connection string in the dll. (from settings). That's where I
discovered my string seems to be an old string. Anyway I have gotten it talking
to my webhost's database again (they moved the SQL server and it stopped
working!).
The problem i'm having now is that on the server i'm trying to deploy my app to
it's got a similar problem, it can't connect to the database. I wrote a command
line app to make calls to the same assembly the webservice uses to call the
database, and it has no problems connecting.
The connection string in the command's config and the string in the web.config
is the same. I've tried changing it from (local) to 127.0.0.1http://127.0.0.1
to the subnet ip address and all seem to fail. I see no hits on the database
using SQL profiler. It has to be a connection string issue but I can't see it
for looking. Any ideas anyone? oh, I've set up my local machine in a similar
manner and it works (using (local)) so putting that up on the server you'd
think it would work. Could be a cross domain thing but the webservice is
working its just the database calls by the webservice are failing.
thanks!
Stephen
p.s. this was the problem I was trying to solve when I hit the other problem I
posted earlier today. tough day!
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RE: [OzSilverlight] Linq to sql
Yep, but by implementing the pattern below you can ensure the default
constructor always uses the correct connection string - it's a preferential
thing, but I like to encapsulate connection configuration in my data classes
rather than pass connection strings through from my business code:)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Nagy
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 10:12 AM
To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com
Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Linq to sql
This way you can explicitly control your connection string
Or you can just set the connection string to the right one when you instantiate
your data context???
var db = new MainDataDataContext (SomeHelperClass.DefaultConnectionString);
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 8:37 AM
To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com
Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Linq to sql
Hi Stephen,
You are having a tricky few days :)
Sometimes LINQ to SQL config issues can arise when you have your LINQ classes
in another assembly...
If this is the case you may be able to get around it by following these steps:
* In you LINQ to SQL designer (on the dbml file) - go to Properties and
remove the Connection field.
* This re-creates the LINQ class with a new constructor that wasn't
there before you can utilise to override connection strings
* Create a new cs file to house a partial class:
public partial class MainDataDataContext
{
public MainDataDataContext() :
base(System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings[someConnSring].ConnectionString,
mappingSource)
{
OnCreated();
}
}
MainDataDataContext is the same class that was created by the LINQ designer.
This way you can explicitly control your connection string.
Regards,
Jordan Knight
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 11:17 PM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: [OzSilverlight] Linq to sql
Hey all,
I was having a problem with my WCF web service talking to the database. I'm
using Linq to SQL, and discovered that it stores the connection strings in
settings in the project. If the string in the web.config is not found then it
falls back to the connection string in the dll. (from settings). That's where I
discovered my string seems to be an old string. Anyway I have gotten it talking
to my webhost's database again (they moved the SQL server and it stopped
working!).
The problem i'm having now is that on the server i'm trying to deploy my app to
it's got a similar problem, it can't connect to the database. I wrote a command
line app to make calls to the same assembly the webservice uses to call the
database, and it has no problems connecting.
The connection string in the command's config and the string in the web.config
is the same. I've tried changing it from (local) to 127.0.0.1http://127.0.0.1
to the subnet ip address and all seem to fail. I see no hits on the database
using SQL profiler. It has to be a connection string issue but I can't see it
for looking. Any ideas anyone? oh, I've set up my local machine in a similar
manner and it works (using (local)) so putting that up on the server you'd
think it would work. Could be a cross domain thing but the webservice is
working its just the database calls by the webservice are failing.
thanks!
Stephen
p.s. this was the problem I was trying to solve when I hit the other problem I
posted earlier today. tough day!
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RE: [OzSilverlight] [Serialization]
I've not tried this but I believe that DataContractSerializer is compatible with SerializableAttribute... Not entirely sure how you would go about nominating the fields and properties to serialise though - normally you need to put DataMember on them. Keep in mind that DataContractSerializer can only serialize private members when you are in PartialTrust :) Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonas Follesø Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 1:56 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] [Serialization] You might have to mark them as [DataContract] to use them across your WCF layer On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Muhammad Niaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I am using WCF service Layer for Silver light communication. And I am and old DTOs Layer which have lot of classes and also developed in .NET 2.0 and I do't want to recompile it in .NET 3.0 or 3.5. Is it possible that I use this DTOs Layer's classes in WCF Service Layer by just decorating them with [Serializable].? Regards, Muhammad Niaz --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com/ - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Silverlight WCF web service
Hrm... you may need a ServiceHostFactory if you are on a machine with multiple
sites (normally a problem on an external hoster)...
1. public class AuthenticationServiceHostFactory : ServiceHostFactory
2. {
3. public override System.ServiceModel.ServiceHostBase
CreateServiceHost(string constructorString, System.Uri[] baseAddresses)
4. {
5.
6. return base.CreateServiceHost(constructorString, baseAddresses);
7.
8. }
9. protected override System.ServiceModel.ServiceHost
CreateServiceHost(Type serviceType, System.Uri[] baseAddresses)
10. {
11. Uri webServiceAddress = new
Uri(http://localhost/WebAuth/WebServices/Authentication.svc;);
12. ServiceHost webServiceHost = new
AuthenticationServiceHost(serviceType, webServiceAddress);
13. return webServiceHost;
14. }
15. }
16.
17. public class AuthenticationServiceHost : ServiceHost
18. {
19.
20. public AuthenticationServiceHost(Type serviceType, Uri baseAddresses)
21. {
22.
23. UriSchemeKeyedCollection BaseAddressScheme = new
UriSchemeKeyedCollection();
24.
25. BaseAddressScheme.Add(baseAddresses);
26. base.InitializeDescription(serviceType, BaseAddressScheme);
27.
28. }
29. protected override void ApplyConfiguration()
30. {
31.
32. base.ApplyConfiguration();
33.
34. }
35. protected override void InitializeRuntime()
36. {
37.
38. base.InitializeRuntime();
39.
40. }
41. }
Change the Uri to appropriate setting... Also you can change the class name to
be something more appropriate
Then in you .svc file change the declaration to use the factory:
1. %@ ServiceHost Language=C# Service=MyService
Factory=AuthenticationServiceHostFactory%
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 2:28 PM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Silverlight WCF web service
Thanks will check that out.
Does it explain why in a web browser http://localhost/WCFTestWeb/Service1.svc
gives me a 404.3?
Is the end point wrong for the web service as this doesn't seem to have
anything to do with Silverlight so I didn't think it would be a crossdomain
issue.
cheers,
Stephen
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Jordan Knight [EMAIL
PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shameless self promotion :)
Try this:
http://jakkaj.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/silverlight-2-call-to-wcf-service-gets-404/
Regards,
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Behalf Of Stephen Price
Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 2:11 PM
To: listserver@ozsilverlight.commailto:listserver@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: [OzSilverlight] Silverlight WCF web service
Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, this used to work for me.
I have a Silverlight WCF web service running on a local IIS app. If I browse to
it I get the error HTTP Error 404.3 - Not Found.
It used to work... *scratches head*. So I decide to create a new one app and
see if it works. I created a blank Silverlight app, added a Silverlight enabled
WCF service to the web site (Web Application project). I try to add a Service
reference to it while it is running on the inbuilt web service and it can see
it no problems. I change the web site to run on IIS and click the Create
Virtual Directory button. Check to see it has done so and IIS manager shows
it. Try to add the Service reference again and bam, Error 404.3 not found again.
Have I messed up something with IIS? I'm sure it just worked before but I could
be wrong...
Help!
cheers,
Stephen
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RE: [OzSilverlight] Vista sidebar gadgets
I think your thread will act as a bug report with peeps like Scott Barnes lurking on the list :) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Monday, 25 August 2008 1:11 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Vista sidebar gadgets Yeah I got the same thing. I did come across his blog post in his travels and it looked like I did everything right... Perhaps I should put a bug report in on it seeing it's a beta and all. Now to find where to do that... Shame it's not built into the client. Hmm. Can't seem to find it after 10 mins of searching. NADD kicking in, lost interest. On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Jonathan Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This guy has: http://blog.benhall.me.uk/2007/05/vista-sidebar-gadget-using-silverlight.html Though when I installed his gadget I found that it showed the same download SL button which took me to a link to install SL 1. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Sunday, 24 August 2008 12:25 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.commailto:listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: [OzSilverlight] Vista sidebar gadgets Hey all, I finally got around to having a play with making a Silverlight Vista sidebar gadget. Making the gadget was simple enough, I just made the Hello world gadget from msdn. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-au/library/bb456468(VS.85).aspxhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-au/library/bb456468%28VS.85%29.aspx I grabbed a Silverlight app that I made a few months ago and checked it worked in a local browser (in the html page) and it did. I then put the html into the Vista gadget and all it showed me was the Download silverlight button. I clicked it and it showed me that it wanted to run the Silverlight 2 Beta 1 version of Silverlight. Just wondering if I've missed something somewhere. Anyone tried this out? cheers, Stephen --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Microsoft Silverlight Tools Beta 2 for Visual Studio 2008 (for .NET 3.5 SP1)
VS SP1 even tells you that it needs the tools installed when it loads a Silverlight app Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Heuer Sent: Wednesday, 13 August 2008 4:29 PM To: listserver@ozSilverlight.com Subject: RE: [OzSilverlight] Microsoft Silverlight Tools Beta 2 for Visual Studio 2008 (for .NET 3.5 SP1) Confirmed, nothing new other than 'it works with VS SP1' :) tim heuer | (602) 405-4567 | im: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter: @timheuerhttp://twitter.com/timheuer From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dimaz Pramudya Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 11:10 PM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Microsoft Silverlight Tools Beta 2 for Visual Studio 2008 (for .NET 3.5 SP1) I don't think there is anything new.. I read it from somewhere that you just have to run the same installer again. On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 4:04 PM, .net noobie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After you upgrade Visual Studio 2008 to 3.5 SP1, you need to install the newer version of Microsoft Silverlight Tools Beta 2 for Visual Studio 2008 is there anything new in here that was not in the previous version..? -- .net noobie(tm) This Framework is not Big Enough for the both of us... --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzSilverlight] Make the web deep zoomable?
How does ASP.NET AJAX go on the new device? Version one of the software worked really nice, but... “My initial tests of ASP.NET AJAX found that it worked perfectly for the iPhone, allowing me to create cutting edge Web 2.0 applications. However, when I installed Apple's first update for the iPhone - containing security updates for the embedded Safari browser - the ASP.NET AJAX UpdatePanel stopped working. This frustrating development broke much of the code I'd written. I hope Microsoft or Apple will fix this problem soon. I've notified Microsoft of the problem and they are currently looking into it.” (http://dotnetslackers.com/articles/aspnet/DevelopingForTheiPhone.aspx) Can anybody tell me how it goes on iPhone 2.0? Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 7:56 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Make the web deep zoomable? On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 7:19 AM, .net noobie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iPhones a the biggest load of wank on the market, I actually saw a guy on TV say You can replace your laptop with a iPhone bloody idiot... nice interface, that's about it, i don't think it really has as much functionality and my old JASJAM, more power and memory, but properly cannot really do 10% the stuff.. There is no way you could have used one to arrive at that conclusion. The Killer Feature(tm) for the device is the browser on it - it is absolutely on par with a desktop browser (except no flash, sl, or java) (so much so that it is pretty annoying when sites like www.news.com.auhttp://www.news.com.au launch a cut down 'iphone optimised' version of their site). This jury is still out on the on screen keyboard. It is definitely 1000 times better than my imate Jamin' - but I am not sure if it is as good as the blackjack. That said, I have owned every generation of WIndows Mobile device since the Compaq Nino and this thing is absolutely the 5 years ahead of anything else that Apple claim. -- David Connors ([EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 Address Info: http://www.codify.com/AboutUs/ContactDetails --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net ;4�(!r��yb�X��ǧu���Ơy-��b���r��y�-��.n7���0z��o)��W�i�^rfjv�y��� +y�b)�
RE: [OzSilverlight] Make the web deep zoomable?
Heheh, not on me ☺ Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 8:27 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Make the web deep zoomable? On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 8:18 AM, Jordan Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anybody tell me how it goes on iPhone 2.0? Do you have a URL for something for me to test? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of David Connors Sent: Saturday, 12 July 2008 7:56 AM To: listserver@ozsilverlight.commailto:listserver@ozsilverlight.com Subject: Re: [OzSilverlight] Make the web deep zoomable? On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 7:19 AM, .net noobie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iPhones a the biggest load of wank on the market, I actually saw a guy on TV say You can replace your laptop with a iPhone bloody idiot... nice interface, that's about it, i don't think it really has as much functionality and my old JASJAM, more power and memory, but properly cannot really do 10% the stuff.. There is no way you could have used one to arrive at that conclusion. The Killer Feature(tm) for the device is the browser on it - it is absolutely on par with a desktop browser (except no flash, sl, or java) (so much so that it is pretty annoying when sites like www.news.com.auhttp://www.news.com.au launch a cut down 'iphone optimised' version of their site). This jury is still out on the on screen keyboard. It is definitely 1000 times better than my imate Jamin' - but I am not sure if it is as good as the blackjack. That said, I have owned every generation of WIndows Mobile device since the Compaq Nino and this thing is absolutely the 5 years ahead of anything else that Apple claim. -- David Connors ([EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 Address Info: http://www.codify.com/AboutUs/ContactDetails --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net -- David Connors ([EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Software Engineer Codify Pty Ltd - www.codify.comhttp://www.codify.com Phone: +61 (7) 3210 6268 | Facsimile: +61 (7) 3210 6269 | Mobile: +61 417 189 363 Address Info: http://www.codify.com/AboutUs/ContactDetails --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzSilverlight] Silverlight Configuration
Hi Everyone, Can anyone tell me a nice way to provide some start-up parameters to Silverlight sourced from the parent page (maybe on the asp:Silverlight control or something). Imagine you have an SL app that you wish to re-use across a range of pages... for example a comments system (user enters and views comments etc), where you want to give it a comments group ID so I can request all comments from db for that page etc. I know how to do this using JS, just thought there may be a nice pattern to follow :) Regards, Jordan Knight Readify - Senior Developer Suite 206 Nolan Tower | 29 Rakaia Way | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 403 532 404 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | W: www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ --- OzSilverlight.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzSilverlight] Silverlight 2 Beta 2 coming this week
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