[LUTE] Re: Better UNICODE Test �� �� ���� �� ����

2017-07-29 Thread Ralf Mattes 

Am Samstag, 29. Juli 2017 16:48 CEST, Wayne  schrieb:

> So one of the issues, with Subject or Body, is that when an encoded message 
> is unpacked for reading,
> and then recoded for a reply or forwarding, the several different mail 
> reader/editors involved in the
> process tend to mess things up.  I was not able to read the emojis in your 
> reply to the list.
>
>   Wayne

No, I think the situation is much less grimm. I was reading your last mail with 
a webmail
client which replaced the unknown emoji characters (not in the font I use for 
reading) with
those substitute characters. So what you probably got back in the reply body 
was a properly
encoded substitute character. I wouldn't use emojis as a typical use case for 
unicode ...
(just tested with my iPad and the emojis display correct).

Cheers, RalfD





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[LUTE] Better UNICODE Test �� �� ���� �� ����

2017-07-29 Thread Wayne 
So one of the issues, with Subject or Body, is that when an encoded message is 
unpacked for reading,
and then recoded for a reply or forwarding, the several different mail 
reader/editors involved in the
process tend to mess things up.  I was not able to read the emojis in your 
reply to the list.

  Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Ralf Mattes" 
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Better UNICODE Test �� �� ���� �� 
> ����
> Date: July 29, 2017 at 10:29:42 AM EDT
> To: "Wayne" 
> Cc: "David Van Edwards" , "Rainer" 
> , "Lute net" 
> 
> 
> Am Samstag, 29. Juli 2017 14:41 CEST, Wayne  
> schrieb: 
> 
>> 
>>   ��
> 
> Thanks a lot! Word encoding seems to work now. And even so my humble emacs 
> can't display emojis I
> appreciate your reference to the original context :-)
> 
> Cheers, RalfD
> 
>> 
>>Wayne
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Rainer,
>>> 
>>> Just to check, this is using the normal Mac 
>>> keystrokes for diacriticals, I wonder if it will 
>>> be mangled by the Lute Net software?
>>> 
>>> Ü Ä Ö  ä ö ü é â è
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> At 14:20 +0200 29/7/17, Rainer wrote:
 I have sent this mail with utf-8 encoding and everything looks OK.
 
 Rainer
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Better UNICODE Test �� �� ���� �� ����

2017-07-29 Thread Ralf Mattes 
 
Am Samstag, 29. Juli 2017 14:41 CEST, Wayne  schrieb: 
 
> 
>��

Thanks a lot! Word encoding seems to work now. And even so my humble emacs 
can't display emojis I
appreciate your reference to the original context :-)

Cheers, RalfD

> 
> Wayne
> 
> 
> > 
> > Dear Rainer,
> > 
> > Just to check, this is using the normal Mac 
> > keystrokes for diacriticals, I wonder if it will 
> > be mangled by the Lute Net software?
> > 
> > Ü Ä Ö  ä ö ü é â è
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > At 14:20 +0200 29/7/17, Rainer wrote:
> >> I have sent this mail with utf-8 encoding and everything looks OK.
> >> 
> >> Rainer
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 29.07.2017 13:40, Rainer wrote:
> >>> German:  ÄÖÜ äöü ß
> >>> 
> >>> French:éâàè
> >>> 
> >>> 
> 
> 
> 
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[LUTE] Anfänger können ünftig schöner Posten?

2017-07-29 Thread Ralf Mattes 
Only a test




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[LUTE] Re: UNICODE Test ÜÄÖ üäö à é

2017-07-29 Thread Ralf Mattes 
 
Am Samstag, 29. Juli 2017 14:20 CEST, Rainer  
schrieb: 
 
> I have sent this mail with utf-8 encoding and everything looks OK.

Hello Rainer,

IIRC the original problem was garbled subject line and that gets transmitted in 
the mail header
and that can't transport unicode encoded in the "usual" encoding schemes 
(UTF-8, UTF-16 etc.)
The only wway to encode non 7-bit character data in mail/mime headers is 
so-called word encoding
using either quoted-printable or base64 format (and has the advantage of 
explicitly specifying the
encoding used).

 Cheers, Ralf Mattes


> Rainer
> 
> 
> On 29.07.2017 13:40, Rainer wrote:
> > German:  ÄÖÜ äöü ß
> > 
> > French:éâàè
> > 
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[LUTE] HTML mails

2017-07-29 Thread Rainer 

By the way,

a few months ago I created a few programs (on the IBM iSeries) for a customer 
that sends HTML mails to their customers.

The public relations department insisted on sending HTML mails since they look 
much better than plain text.

I used very basic html features (unordered lists, very simple tables, bold and 
italic) only, and we did some testing with different clients as iPhone, 
Android, Microsoft Phone (yes, one of the guys in the IT department has got 
one), outlook, Lotus and a few others.

As long as you use only primitive HTML they almost look the same on most 
clients - almost.



Rainer



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[LUTE] Better UNICODE Test     

2017-07-29 Thread Wayne 

   


Wayne


> 
> Dear Rainer,
> 
> Just to check, this is using the normal Mac 
> keystrokes for diacriticals, I wonder if it will 
> be mangled by the Lute Net software?
> 
> Ü Ä Ö  ä ö ü é â è
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> David
> 
> At 14:20 +0200 29/7/17, Rainer wrote:
>> I have sent this mail with utf-8 encoding and everything looks OK.
>> 
>> Rainer
>> 
>> 
>> On 29.07.2017 13:40, Rainer wrote:
>>> German:  ÄÖÜ äöü ß
>>> 
>>> French:éâàè
>>> 
>>> 




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[LUTE] Re: UNICODE Test ÜÄÖ üäö à é

2017-07-29 Thread Rainer 

Looks OK

Rainer

On 29.07.2017 14:29, David Van Edwards wrote:

Dear Rainer,

Just to check, this is using the normal Mac keystrokes for diacriticals, I 
wonder if it will be mangled by the Lute Net software?

Ü Ä Ö  ä ö ü é â è

Best wishes,

David

At 14:20 +0200 29/7/17, Rainer wrote:

I have sent this mail with utf-8 encoding and everything looks OK.

Rainer


On 29.07.2017 13:40, Rainer wrote:

German:  ÄÖÜ äöü ß

French:éâàè



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[LUTE] Re: UNICODE Test ÜÄÖ üäö à é

2017-07-29 Thread David Van Edwards 

Dear Rainer,

Just to check, this is using the normal Mac 
keystrokes for diacriticals, I wonder if it will 
be mangled by the Lute Net software?


Ü Ä Ö  ä ö ü é â è

Best wishes,

David

At 14:20 +0200 29/7/17, Rainer wrote:

I have sent this mail with utf-8 encoding and everything looks OK.

Rainer


On 29.07.2017 13:40, Rainer wrote:

German:  ÄÖÜ äöü ß

French:éâàè



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[LUTE] Re: UNICODE Test ÜÄÖ üäö à é

2017-07-29 Thread Rainer 

I have sent this mail with utf-8 encoding and everything looks OK.

Rainer


On 29.07.2017 13:40, Rainer wrote:

German:  ÄÖÜ äöü ß

French:éâàè



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[LUTE] UNICODE Test ÜÄÖ üäö à é

2017-07-29 Thread Rainer 

German:  ÄÖÜ äöü ß

French: éâàè



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