[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-14 Thread gary digman

As W.C.Fields' sainted father told him, Never give a sucker an even break
or smarten up a chump.

Gary

- Original Message - 
From: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 5:14 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams



I get these scams rather frequently.  Another phishing technique is to
obtain personal information by offering to sell discount prescription
drugs from Canada. Your greed is part of the modus. It is a ruse to get
your credit card number.

But waiting this morning was a letter purporting to be from an official 
at

the Central Bank of Africa, informing me that he was sending me eight
hundred thousand
dollars from some inheritance. But this one had a new twist, related to
your UPS story.  I
would be able to withdraw the money (but not more than $2500 per day) 
from

my local ATM using a master ATM card and PIN that he was sending me from
Africa via FED EX.  The ATM card would
be concealed inside a magazine.  I had to send all kinds of personal
information to a fake FedEx e-mail address.  And I was advised to act
quickly because of the mounting $250/day security fees charged by 
FedEx.
To retrieve my magazine I'd probably discover I'd have to pay several 
days

of 250 dollar security fees.g

Sometimes these scams come through the snail mail.  Charlotte has gotten
quite a few at the library.  These guys (and gals?) are so busy, they 
make
their own counterfeit Nigerian stamps. Millions if not billions of 
dollars

have been lost to such scammers. It's a huge operation.  If you offer a
musical instrument for sale, or even private music lessons over the
Internet (Alice Artz was targeted once), you are likely to attract their
attention.

The FBI and Scotland Yard both have web pages devoted to these scams.
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- Original Message - 
From: gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:19 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


|I have not received the UPS thing, but I get emails which are phishing
| attempts by individuals purporting to be PayPal. I have forwarded these
| emails to PayPal and they have confirmed that the emails are indeed
attempts
| at phishing. Do not exhange personal information on the internet unless
you
| now whose on the other end, and, even then, be very, very careful.
|
| Anthony, I would suggest that you go to a public computer (library,
| university, etc) to open the email. If it's a scam, you will know very
soon
| and your personal computer will be safe from any viruses.
|
| Gary
|
| - Original Message - 
| From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]

| To: Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute List
| lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
| Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:16 AM
| Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams
|
|
|  This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have
|  received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits
of a
|  person who has just died intestate.
|  Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a
|  message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and
there
|  is an attachment to click on,
|  and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to
be
|  able to receive this parcel.
|  Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking
perhaps
|  some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just  arrived.
|  However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it
may
|  be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal
details, or
|  to spread a virus.
|  Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
|  Anthony
| 
| 
|  Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit :
| 
|  If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for 
the
|  Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than 
the

|  purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of
|  these in
|  response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and 
I

|  advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several
other
|  similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target
lutes as
|  well.
| 
|  Guy
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM
|  To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
|  Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam
| 
| 
| 
|  Hi folks -
| 
|   You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at
|  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc

[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-13 Thread gary digman
I have not received the UPS thing, but I get emails which are phishing 
attempts by individuals purporting to be PayPal. I have forwarded these 
emails to PayPal and they have confirmed that the emails are indeed attempts 
at phishing. Do not exhange personal information on the internet unless you 
now whose on the other end, and, even then, be very, very careful.


Anthony, I would suggest that you go to a public computer (library, 
university, etc) to open the email. If it's a scam, you will know very soon 
and your personal computer will be safe from any viruses.


Gary

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute List 
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have 
received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits  of a 
person who has just died intestate.
Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a 
message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and  there 
is an attachment to click on,
and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to  be 
able to receive this parcel.
Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking  perhaps 
some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just  arrived.
However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it  may 
be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal  details, or 
to spread a virus.

Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
Anthony


Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit :


If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for the
Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than the
purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of 
these in

response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and I
advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several other
similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target  lutes as
well.

Guy

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam



Hi folks -

 You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html .  I just got
the first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me..

  I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email  address on
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted I would  like
 to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar For Sale @ 1,400
 Euro(Give Away Price)including shipping to your front door in Finland
 via Courier express delivery.The price of this lutes are more than
 2,500 euro.You can't get it this price(1,400 euro)anywhere.Hurry up
 now,this is give away price.Buy one and get one free Nokia mobile 
phone.



 Maybe I am wrong... maybe many respected luthiers are now supplying
free cell phones with their usual merchandise.. but I would suggest
that you be careful with any internet transactions with strangers.

 You can see the instruments at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/ 
lute/Baker/

There seem to be two different pairs of guitars and a fifth by itself.
Maybe one of them is yours!

Wayne



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[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-13 Thread Charles Browne
The number of scam/spam emails is increasing everyday. I get about 250 - 300
spam emails/day in my webmail filter and about half are some form of
'phishing'. There is also the ecard email. A message arrives by email to say
that someone has sent you an electronic Card and invites you to reply.
Don't! - it may be either 'phishing' or it may be a Trojan.
I also run a website for our church benefice and we recently received an
email from The Ivory Coast? purporting to be from a recently widowed lady
whose husband had left 2.5 M USD and who wanted to donate it to a charity
but we had to reply quickly otherwise the money would be offered elsewhere.
The money resides in a bank in Africa. We suppose it to be a scam as we have
no safe way of finding out.  Most of these scams rely on the recipients
making snap decisions because the 'offer' is too good to miss. A moment's
reflection will usually be enough to convince you otherwise!
Charles

-Original Message-
From: gary digman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 August 2008 08:19
To: lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


I have not received the UPS thing, but I get emails which are phishing
attempts by individuals purporting to be PayPal. I have forwarded these
emails to PayPal and they have confirmed that the emails are indeed attempts
at phishing. Do not exhange personal information on the internet unless you
now whose on the other end, and, even then, be very, very careful.

Anthony, I would suggest that you go to a public computer (library,
university, etc) to open the email. If it's a scam, you will know very soon
and your personal computer will be safe from any viruses.

Gary

- Original Message -
From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute List
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


 This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have
 received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits  of a
 person who has just died intestate.
 Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a
 message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and  there
 is an attachment to click on,
 and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to  be
 able to receive this parcel.
 Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking  perhaps
 some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just  arrived.
 However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it  may
 be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal  details, or
 to spread a virus.
 Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
 Anthony


 Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit :

 If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for the
 Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than the
 purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of
 these in
 response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and I
 advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several other
 similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target  lutes as
 well.

 Guy

 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM
 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam



 Hi folks -

  You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html .  I just got
 the first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me..

   I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email  address on
  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted I would  like
  to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar For Sale @ 1,400
  Euro(Give Away Price)including shipping to your front door in Finland
  via Courier express delivery.The price of this lutes are more than
  2,500 euro.You can't get it this price(1,400 euro)anywhere.Hurry up
  now,this is give away price.Buy one and get one free Nokia mobile
 phone.


  Maybe I am wrong... maybe many respected luthiers are now supplying
 free cell phones with their usual merchandise.. but I would suggest
 that you be careful with any internet transactions with strangers.

  You can see the instruments at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/
 lute/Baker/
 There seem to be two different pairs of guitars and a fifth by itself.
 Maybe one of them is yours!

 Wayne



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[LUTE] Re: more general scams[Scanned]

2008-08-13 Thread Narada
Anything that comes from Africa or elsewhere offering you vast sums of money
etc is a scam. There are websites around that actually tell you what these
people are after. There is one whose name eludes me who actually takes up
these offers and then exposes the people for what they are and then passes
on their details to the Criminal Depts of the country of origin. Another
scam is e-mails that inform you you have a winning number on the lottery.
These people are after your bank details. Then of course there are the ones
purporting to come from major banks stating that they have had major
upgrades to their online banking systems and they ask you to click on a link
and re-submit your bank details, ID etc. These should be reported to your
bank.

Care should always be advised with these things.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Charles Browne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 13 August 2008 10:50
To: gary digman; lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


The number of scam/spam emails is increasing everyday. I get about 250 - 300
spam emails/day in my webmail filter and about half are some form of
'phishing'. There is also the ecard email. A message arrives by email to say
that someone has sent you an electronic Card and invites you to reply.
Don't! - it may be either 'phishing' or it may be a Trojan. I also run a
website for our church benefice and we recently received an email from The
Ivory Coast? purporting to be from a recently widowed lady whose husband had
left 2.5 M USD and who wanted to donate it to a charity but we had to reply
quickly otherwise the money would be offered elsewhere. The money resides in
a bank in Africa. We suppose it to be a scam as we have no safe way of
finding out.  Most of these scams rely on the recipients making snap
decisions because the 'offer' is too good to miss. A moment's reflection
will usually be enough to convince you otherwise! Charles

-Original Message-
From: gary digman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 13 August 2008 08:19
To: lutelist
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


I have not received the UPS thing, but I get emails which are phishing
attempts by individuals purporting to be PayPal. I have forwarded these
emails to PayPal and they have confirmed that the emails are indeed attempts
at phishing. Do not exhange personal information on the internet unless you
now whose on the other end, and, even then, be very, very careful.

Anthony, I would suggest that you go to a public computer (library,
university, etc) to open the email. If it's a scam, you will know very soon
and your personal computer will be safe from any viruses.

Gary

- Original Message -
From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute List
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:16 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


 This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have 
 received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits  
 of a person who has just died intestate. Of course I didn't fall for 
 that. However, a week ago I received a message purporting to be from 
 UPS about an undelivered parcel, and  there is an attachment to click 
 on, and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in 
 to  be able to receive this parcel.
 Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking  perhaps
 some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just  arrived.
 However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it  may
 be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal  details, or
 to spread a virus.
 Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
 Anthony


 Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit :

 If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for the 
 Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than the 
 purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of 
 these in response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to 
 sell, and I advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of 
 several other similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they 
 could target  lutes as well.

 Guy

 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM
 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam



 Hi folks -

  You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at 
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html .  I just got the 
 first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me..

   I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email  
 address on  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted 
 I would  like  to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar For 
 Sale @ 1,400  Euro(Give Away Price)including shipping to your front 
 door in Finland  via Courier express delivery.The price of this lutes 
 are more than  2,500 euro.You can't get

[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-13 Thread Arthur Ness
I get these scams rather frequently.  Another phishing technique is to
obtain personal information by offering to sell discount prescription
drugs from Canada. Your greed is part of the modus. It is a ruse to get
your credit card number.

But waiting this morning was a letter purporting to be from an official at
the Central Bank of Africa, informing me that he was sending me eight
hundred thousand
dollars from some inheritance. But this one had a new twist, related to
your UPS story.  I
would be able to withdraw the money (but not more than $2500 per day) from
my local ATM using a master ATM card and PIN that he was sending me from
Africa via FED EX.  The ATM card would
be concealed inside a magazine.  I had to send all kinds of personal
information to a fake FedEx e-mail address.  And I was advised to act
quickly because of the mounting $250/day security fees charged by FedEx.
To retrieve my magazine I'd probably discover I'd have to pay several days
of 250 dollar security fees.g

Sometimes these scams come through the snail mail.  Charlotte has gotten
quite a few at the library.  These guys (and gals?) are so busy, they make
their own counterfeit Nigerian stamps. Millions if not billions of dollars
have been lost to such scammers. It's a huge operation.  If you offer a
musical instrument for sale, or even private music lessons over the
Internet (Alice Artz was targeted once), you are likely to attract their
attention.

The FBI and Scotland Yard both have web pages devoted to these scams.
=AJN (Boston, Mass.)=
This week's free download is Tchaikovsky's
Serenade for Strings in C, Op. 48, performed by  the Royal
Philharmonic Orchestra; Yuri Simonov, conductor.
To download, click on the CML link here
http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/

My Web Page:  Scores
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepq31c/arthurjnesslutescores/
Other Matters:
http://mysite.verizon.net/arthurjness/
===

- Original Message - 
From: gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 3:19 AM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


|I have not received the UPS thing, but I get emails which are phishing
| attempts by individuals purporting to be PayPal. I have forwarded these
| emails to PayPal and they have confirmed that the emails are indeed
attempts
| at phishing. Do not exhange personal information on the internet unless
you
| now whose on the other end, and, even then, be very, very careful.
|
| Anthony, I would suggest that you go to a public computer (library,
| university, etc) to open the email. If it's a scam, you will know very
soon
| and your personal computer will be safe from any viruses.
|
| Gary
|
| - Original Message - 
| From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute List
| lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
| Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:16 AM
| Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams
|
|
|  This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have
|  received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits
of a
|  person who has just died intestate.
|  Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a
|  message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and
there
|  is an attachment to click on,
|  and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to
be
|  able to receive this parcel.
|  Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking
perhaps
|  some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just  arrived.
|  However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it
may
|  be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal
details, or
|  to spread a virus.
|  Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
|  Anthony
| 
| 
|  Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit :
| 
|  If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for the
|  Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than the
|  purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of
|  these in
|  response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and I
|  advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several
other
|  similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target
lutes as
|  well.
| 
|  Guy
| 
|  -Original Message-
|  From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM
|  To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
|  Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam
| 
| 
| 
|  Hi folks -
| 
|   You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at
|  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html .  I just got
|  the first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me..
| 
|I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email
address on
|   http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted I would
like
|   to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar

[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-13 Thread Fossum, Arthur
I would go as far to say NEVER click on a url in an email. If you get a
message from paypal,Citibank,UPS,IRS etc, go to their website by typing
the URL in internet explorer/firefox/etc, if they have sent you a
message their will be a way to retrieve it from their site(which you
should already have an account on - otherwise they did not send it and
it is a scam). Don't fall for 'social engineering' by calling a number
from the email and giving out your personal information. If you get the
number from the company's website you are relatively safe(there are ways
to poison your dns cache too, so not 100%)

 

-Original Message-
From: guy_and_liz Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 3:41 PM
To: 'Lute List'; Denys Stephens
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams

You should always check the actual URL associated with a suspicious link

before you think about clicking it. The text you see on the screen can
be 
completely different than the URL that it links to.


- Original Message - 
From: Denys Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Lute List' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 12:32 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams


 Dear Anthony,
 I received one of those on my webmail account a couple of days ago
 and it made me pause for a moment to read it - it's certainly a smart
 new attempt to infiltrate our computers. The attached zip file gave it
 away, as they always set the alarm bells ringing when they are 
 unsolicited.
 Funnily enough, I just received another on my home computer and it
flashed
 in Outlook for just a second or two before AVG put it in the virus
vault.
 It's definitely a very dodgy e-mail.

 Best wishes,

 Denys


 However, a week ago I received a message purporting to be from UPS
about 
 an
 undelivered parcel, and there is an attachment to click on, and I am
told
 this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to be able to
receive
 this parcel.
 Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking
perhaps
 some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just arrived.
 However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it
may be
 valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal details, or
to
 spread a virus.
 Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
 Anthony





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[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-13 Thread William Brohinsky
   Folks,
   If you get an email saying that you have a UPS delivery, and it doesn't
   have a tracking number, it's not from UPS. If it does, then you can
   check the tracking number on the UPS site and it should have
   information you recognize if you initiated the shipping, but at least
   an actual package will be involved.
   UPS.com
   FED-ex.com
   USPS.gov (note, USPS tracking tends to be of the update after
   delivery variety, but if a package sits after an attempt to deliver,
   the paperwork should catch up with it. Also, you can usually talk to a
   human at the post office who is right there and can verify the
   existance of a package.)
   These are good things to have handy.
   ray

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[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-12 Thread Anthony Hind
This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have  
received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits  
of a person who has just died intestate.
Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a  
message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and  
there is an attachment to click on,
and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to  
be able to receive this parcel.
Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking  
perhaps some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just  
arrived.
However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it  
may be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal  
details, or to spread a virus.

Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
Anthony


Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit :


If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for the
Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than the
purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of  
these in

response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and I
advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several other
similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target  
lutes as

well.

Guy

-Original Message-
From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam



Hi folks -

 You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html .  I just got
the first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me..

  I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email  
address on
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted I would  
like

 to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar For Sale @ 1,400
 Euro(Give Away Price)including shipping to your front door in Finland
 via Courier express delivery.The price of this lutes are more than
 2,500 euro.You can't get it this price(1,400 euro)anywhere.Hurry up
 now,this is give away price.Buy one and get one free Nokia mobile  
phone.



 Maybe I am wrong... maybe many respected luthiers are now supplying
free cell phones with their usual merchandise.. but I would suggest
that you be careful with any internet transactions with strangers.

 You can see the instruments at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/ 
lute/Baker/

There seem to be two different pairs of guitars and a fifth by itself.
Maybe one of them is yours!

Wayne



To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html







[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-12 Thread Eric Crouch
   Someone on another list I follow got a similar UPS message about a week
   ago and his posting prompted this reply from another list member:

   When I get something I suspect as spam I copy
   and paste a chunk of its text into Google - the result in this case is
   at
   [1]http://www.hoax-slayer.com/ups-malware.shtml;

   Try it and see

   Eric Crouch
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On 12 Aug 2008, at 17:16, Anthony Hind wrote:

   This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have
   received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits of
   a person who has just died intestate.
   Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a
   message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and
   there is an attachment to click on,
   and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to be
   able to receive this parcel.
   Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking
   perhaps some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just
   arrived.
   However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it may
   be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal details,
   or to spread a virus.
   Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
   Anthony
   Le 12 aout 08 `a 17:38, Guy Smith a ecrit :

 If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for
 the

 Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than
 the

 purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of
 these in

 response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and
 I

 advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several
 other

 similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target
 lutes as

 well.

 Guy

 -Original Message-

 From: Wayne Cripps [[3]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam

 Hi folks -

 You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at

 [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html .  I just got

 the first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me..

  I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email address
 on

 [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted I would
 like

 to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar For Sale @ 1,400

 Euro(Give Away Price)including shipping to your front door in
 Finland

 via Courier express delivery.The price of this lutes are more than

 2,500 euro.You can't get it this price(1,400 euro)anywhere.Hurry up

 now,this is give away price.Buy one and get one free Nokia mobile
 phone.

 Maybe I am wrong... maybe many respected luthiers are now supplying

 free cell phones with their usual merchandise.. but I would suggest

 that you be careful with any internet transactions with strangers.

 You can see the instruments at
 [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Baker/

 There seem to be two different pairs of guitars and a fifth by
 itself.

 Maybe one of them is yours!

 Wayne

 To get on or off this list see list information at

 [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

   --

References

   1. http://www.hoax-slayer.com/ups-malware.shtml
   2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   3. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   4. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/Baker/
   8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: more general scams

2008-08-12 Thread Doctor Oakroot
You were right. That's a scam.

UPS is in the business of delivering physical packages - they would have
left you a note on your door, not an email, if there were an undelivered
package.


 This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have
 received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits
 of a person who has just died intestate.
 Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a
 message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and
 there is an attachment to click on,
 and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to
 be able to receive this parcel.
 Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking
 perhaps some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just
 arrived.
 However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it
 may be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal
 details, or to spread a virus.
 Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS.
 Anthony


 Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit :

 If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for the
 Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than the
 purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of
 these in
 response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and I
 advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several other
 similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target
 lutes as
 well.

 Guy

 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM
 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam



 Hi folks -

  You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page.  at
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html .  I just got
 the first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me..

   I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email
 address on
  http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted I would
 like
  to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar For Sale @ 1,400
  Euro(Give Away Price)including shipping to your front door in Finland
  via Courier express delivery.The price of this lutes are more than
  2,500 euro.You can't get it this price(1,400 euro)anywhere.Hurry up
  now,this is give away price.Buy one and get one free Nokia mobile
 phone.


  Maybe I am wrong... maybe many respected luthiers are now supplying
 free cell phones with their usual merchandise.. but I would suggest
 that you be careful with any internet transactions with strangers.

  You can see the instruments at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/
 lute/Baker/
 There seem to be two different pairs of guitars and a fifth by itself.
 Maybe one of them is yours!

  Wayne



 To get on or off this list see list information at
 http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html







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