Re: Solved > Re: Umlaut in nomenclature

[Eckhard Höffner]

Can you post an example? I don't understand the Abbreviation is part of 
the Nomenclature. Usually there are the index and the nomenclature. The 
dialogs differ.


The nomanclature dialog offers a field for the sorting, while the index 
dialog puts an  \index{ ... } in the latex file.


Makeindex has several options (special chars:  !, | and @). I think the 
description here 
https://de.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX-Kompendium:_Index_und_Glossar:_Standard-Index 
is good.



Am 03.05.23 um 09:53 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
I posted this before and thought it is solved. However, the word 
starting with an U umlaut (capital "U) is now placed in the 
Abbreviation part of the Nomenclature. How can I make it appear in the 
normal Nomenclature part und there under U?

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Re: Solved > Re: Umlaut in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I posted this before and thought it is solved. However, the word 
starting with an U umlaut (capital "U) is now placed in the Abbreviation 
part of the Nomenclature. How can I make it appear in the normal 
Nomenclature part und there under U?

Wolfgang

Am 12.04.23 um 17:57 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 12.04.23 um 16:29 schrieb Eckhard Höffner:

Is there anything special?

I use utf8, enter the "symbol" and the "description" with Umlauten, 
check "unformated" and everthing is fine.   You may also add  the 
sorting order.  Öl =>  oel


index is different Oel@Öl



Am 12.04.23 um 15:40 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
I forgot how to put a word starting with an Umlaut in the 
nomenclature, where it should appear under U, as in this example:


Übertragungsfunktion

beschreibt mathematisch die Beziehung zwischen dem Ein- und 
Ausgangssignal eines dynamischen Systems im Frequenzraum. Damit kann 
für ein beliebiges Eingangssignal das Ausgangssignal, also die 
Reaktion des Systems, bestimmt werden.



Wolfgang




Thanks, Eckard,
works!

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Solved > Re: Umlaut in nomenclature

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Am 12.04.23 um 16:29 schrieb Eckhard Höffner:

Is there anything special?

I use utf8, enter the "symbol" and the "description" with Umlauten, 
check "unformated" and everthing is fine.   You may also add  the 
sorting order.  Öl =>  oel


index is different Oel@Öl



Am 12.04.23 um 15:40 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
I forgot how to put a word starting with an Umlaut in the 
nomenclature, where it should appear under U, as in this example:


Übertragungsfunktion

beschreibt mathematisch die Beziehung zwischen dem Ein- und 
Ausgangssignal eines dynamischen Systems im Frequenzraum. Damit kann 
für ein beliebiges Eingangssignal das Ausgangssignal, also die 
Reaktion des Systems, bestimmt werden.



Wolfgang




Thanks, Eckard,
works!

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Umlaut in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I forgot how to put a word starting with an Umlaut in the nomenclature, 
where it should appear under U, as in this example:


Übertragungsfunktion

beschreibt mathematisch die Beziehung zwischen dem Ein- und 
Ausgangssignal eines dynamischen Systems im Frequenzraum. Damit kann für 
ein beliebiges Eingangssignal das Ausgangssignal, also die Reaktion des 
Systems, bestimmt werden.



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Re: SOLVED >: nomenclature error

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 28.04.22 um 16:52 schrieb Dr Eberhard Lisse:

I don't think LyX can ever fix LaTeX errors :-)-O

el


On 19/04/2022 10:24, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
[...]

It took some time to find out, and I wonder whether there could be a
better error or warning handling.


[...]

Am 14.04.22 um 17:30 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:

[...]

! LaTeX Error: Lonely \item--perhaps a missing list environment

[...]


I didn't asdk for a fix, just a warning.

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Re: SOLVED >: nomenclature error

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I don't think LyX can ever fix LaTeX errors :-)-O

el


On 19/04/2022 10:24, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
[...]

It took some time to find out, and I wonder whether there could be a
better error or warning handling.


[...]

Am 14.04.22 um 17:30 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:

[...]

! LaTeX Error: Lonely \item--perhaps a missing list environment

[...]
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SOLVED >: nomenclature error

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I found the reason for the nomenclature error decribed below the 

I had several double entries in the nomenclature (i.e. the same Symbol 
and Description).

Removing them solved the problem.

It took some time to find out, and I wonder whether there could be a 
better error or warning handling.


The problem is, that with these errors one gets a pdf output, but the 
nomenclature is cluttered (no symbols shown any more -which are in bold 
in my case). It might be due to my way of having set the nomenclature.


Wolfgang

##
Am 14.04.22 um 17:30 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann via lyx-users:

I am getting a warning >

! LaTeX Error: Lonely \item--perhaps a missing list environment

in a lyx file (Debian) with
Version 2.4.0dev (not released yet)
Built from git commit hash 53ed3dc0
Qt Version (run-time): 5.15.2 on platform xcb
Qt Version (compile-time): 5.15.2
Python detected: python3 -tt

The nomenclature item gives the correct description if I move the mouse 
over it, but if I click on it, the description is wrong (and the same in 
all following items). The pdf output of the nomeclature stops at a 
certain item


CRISPR/Cas9 technology
clustered regularly interspaced

and the following do not show the symbols (bold in my setting) anymore, 
but only the Descriptions


Did somebody have experienced this kind of error
and how would one try to find out what went wrong?

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nomenclature error

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I am getting a warning >

! LaTeX Error: Lonely \item--perhaps a missing list environment

in a lyx file (Debian) with
Version 2.4.0dev (not released yet)
Built from git commit hash 53ed3dc0
Qt Version (run-time): 5.15.2 on platform xcb
Qt Version (compile-time): 5.15.2
Python detected: python3 -tt

The nomenclature item gives the correct description if I move the mouse 
over it, but if I click on it, the description is wrong (and the same in 
all following items). The pdf output of the nomeclature stops at a 
certain item


CRISPR/Cas9 technology
clustered regularly interspaced

and the following do not show the symbols (bold in my setting) anymore, 
but only the Descriptions


Did somebody have experienced this kind of error
and how would one try to find out what went wrong?

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Re: Nomenclature with Sections

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Am 15.04.21 um 05:29 schrieb Steve Litt:

Wolfgang Engelmann said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:07:09 +0200


Am 13.04.21 um 22:44 schrieb Steve Litt:

Wolfgang Engelmann said on Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:06:08 +0200




One happy prospect I see is that it can be done in LaTeX, and the
Additional Features manual seems to say it's needed and would be
easy to implement in LyX. If there's no other way, you could
implement it in LyX, thereby solving your problem and also getting a
tickertape parade from the LyX community. I think you're already
better at LaTeX than I, but if you need some assistance, perhaps I
could provide some.




Steve, I am quite low-brow in latex. What I did was following the
hints given in the list and try it out. I have put it together in the
text file in the annex of this mail.
It works as an appendix behind a chapter, but not behind a section.
Wolfgang


Hi Wolfgang,

I'm pretty good at turning LaTeX stuff to LyX in a layout file, but
unfortunately, I have to have several medical procedures, I have to
do *substantial* repairs to our house and that's proving difficult and
time consuming, our kids are coming to visit at the end of May, I have
to write a new book that's only in the beginning outline stage so far,
and (fortunately), I've had a substantial influx of paying work.

But if I ever get a few hours to rub together, I'll try very hard to
help you.

SteveT

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Steve, I never expected it;  I was just responding to your
'I think you're already better at LaTeX'
But thanks for your lines!

What I will do now is to keep the existing Appendix at the END of 
CHAPTER and refer to it in the section(s) of this chapter which need(s) 
an annex. And the heading of the annex reflects the content of it.


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Re: Nomenclature with Sections

[Steve Litt]

Wolfgang Engelmann said on Wed, 14 Apr 2021 09:07:09 +0200

>Am 13.04.21 um 22:44 schrieb Steve Litt:
>> Wolfgang Engelmann said on Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:06:08 +0200

>> 
>> One happy prospect I see is that it can be done in LaTeX, and the
>> Additional Features manual seems to say it's needed and would be
>> easy to implement in LyX. If there's no other way, you could
>> implement it in LyX, thereby solving your problem and also getting a
>> tickertape parade from the LyX community. I think you're already
>> better at LaTeX than I, but if you need some assistance, perhaps I
>> could provide some.


>Steve, I am quite low-brow in latex. What I did was following the
>hints given in the list and try it out. I have put it together in the
>text file in the annex of this mail.
>It works as an appendix behind a chapter, but not behind a section.
>Wolfgang

Hi Wolfgang,

I'm pretty good at turning LaTeX stuff to LyX in a layout file, but
unfortunately, I have to have several medical procedures, I have to
do *substantial* repairs to our house and that's proving difficult and
time consuming, our kids are coming to visit at the end of May, I have
to write a new book that's only in the beginning outline stage so far,
and (fortunately), I've had a substantial influx of paying work.

But if I ever get a few hours to rub together, I'll try very hard to
help you.

SteveT

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Re: Nomenclature with Sections

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Am 13.04.21 um 22:44 schrieb Steve Litt:

Wolfgang Engelmann said on Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:06:08 +0200


Am 11.04.21 um 03:23 schrieb Steve Litt:

Wolfgang Engelmann said on Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:09:48 +0200
   

I would like to have parts of the nomenclature as a separate
section,


I know the word "nomenclature" means "a system of names", but what
does it mean as applied in LyX?

Thanks,

SteveT


If you want to explain words in your document, you use
outline > nomenclature entries
behind the word. It shows the word as a symbol and you add a
description underneath.
I am used to Glossary instead of nomenclature, which you get with

\AtBeginDocument{\def\nomname{Glossary}}
%leads to bold nomenclature title in entries >
\renewcommand{\nomlabel}[1]{\textsf{\textbf{#1}}}
\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossary
}

in the preamble of > Document

One can also create a part of the nomenclature as a separate section,
e.g. Abbreviations

That is what I am after.

there is a nomenclature manual for latex, but I would like to know for
LyX

Perhaps somebody can help me.

Wolfgang


:-)

I've needed both those things for 20 years. Thank you!!!

If I understand your situation, you already know how to do what you
need in LaTeX, and then make LyX commands and environments to make it
accessible in LyX, and now you're trying to see if there's a native LyX
way to do it. Being less than a newbie when it comes to nomenclatures,
and not understanding *exactly* what you're looking to do, I did a quick
look and found stuff you probably already know about, but just in case I
found something new, here it is:

The LyX functions manual has the following:
* dialog-show appears to take a nomenclature argument
* Ditto with inset-insert
* There's a nomencl-insert command
* There's a nomencl-print command

The Additional LyX Features manual contains the following sentence:
There is at present no support for glossaries. Adding it would
be fairly trivial, and welcome.

The User's Guide contains a special environment called Verbatim, which
can contain "index- and nomenclature entries".

The Embedded Objects manual contains nothing about Nomenclature

The User Guide contains a section on using Nomenclature/Glossary.

As you already mentioned, when I search CTAN for "nomenclature", I get
8 results.

===

One happy prospect I see is that it can be done in LaTeX, and the
Additional Features manual seems to say it's needed and would be easy to
implement in LyX. If there's no other way, you could implement it in
LyX, thereby solving your problem and also getting a tickertape parade
from the LyX community. I think you're already better at LaTeX than I,
but if you need some assistance, perhaps I could provide some.

SteveT

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Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques



Steve, I am quite low-brow in latex. What I did was following the hints 
given in the list and try it out. I have put it together in the text 
file in the annex of this mail.

It works as an appendix behind a chapter, but not behind a section.
Wolfgang
Nomenclature package:

##
https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/TOC
How do I add the nomenclature to the toc in LyX?
As noted above if you use a KOMA-Script class you can use the document 
option idxtotoc to include Bibliography, Lists of Figures/Tables and Appendix. 
What is not mentioned is that Nomenclature is also included when using this 
command.
Else,
Add the following to the preamble:

\def\nompreamble{\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\nomname}\markboth{\nomname}{\nomname}}
 

##
How can I get Bibliography, Lists of Figures/Tables and Appendix to appear in 
the table of contents (TOC)?
If you use a KOMA class: use the document option liststotoc
Else: use the package tocbibind from CTAN:/, i.e. \usepackage{tocbibind}
If you use \usepackage[nottoc]{tocbibind} instead, the toc will not show up 
in the toc. 

##
Lyx Thesis:
https://sites.google.com/site/lyxthesistemplate/appendices   
see 3 > appendices


From my letter to Lyx User Group, corrected for chapter, not section (which 
does not work):
The following link
https://github.com/scottkosty/lyx-princeton-diss
allows to download the scottkosty /lyx-princeton-diss
(use the green box "code")
The trick is to put (by using the \usepackage{appendix} in the preamble behind 
the place where one wants to insert the subappendix/ces (here chapter 3) the 
following (as an example):

%%at end of chapter 3 add:
\begin{subappendices} %%in ERT
Appendix %% as chapter*
3.A Appendix of Chapter 3 %% as section
3.B Appendix of Chapter 3 %% as section
\end{subappendices} %%in ERT

This result

Re: Nomenclature with Sections

[Steve Litt]

Wolfgang Engelmann said on Mon, 12 Apr 2021 10:06:08 +0200

>Am 11.04.21 um 03:23 schrieb Steve Litt:
>> Wolfgang Engelmann said on Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:09:48 +0200
>>   
>>> I would like to have parts of the nomenclature as a separate
>>> section,  
>> 
>> I know the word "nomenclature" means "a system of names", but what
>> does it mean as applied in LyX?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> SteveT  
>
>If you want to explain words in your document, you use
>outline > nomenclature entries
>behind the word. It shows the word as a symbol and you add a
>description underneath.
>I am used to Glossary instead of nomenclature, which you get with
>
>\AtBeginDocument{\def\nomname{Glossary}}
>%leads to bold nomenclature title in entries >
>\renewcommand{\nomlabel}[1]{\textsf{\textbf{#1}}}
>\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossary
>}
>
>in the preamble of > Document
>
>One can also create a part of the nomenclature as a separate section,
>e.g. Abbreviations
>
>That is what I am after.
>
>there is a nomenclature manual for latex, but I would like to know for
>LyX
>
>Perhaps somebody can help me.
>
>Wolfgang

:-)

I've needed both those things for 20 years. Thank you!!!

If I understand your situation, you already know how to do what you
need in LaTeX, and then make LyX commands and environments to make it
accessible in LyX, and now you're trying to see if there's a native LyX
way to do it. Being less than a newbie when it comes to nomenclatures,
and not understanding *exactly* what you're looking to do, I did a quick
look and found stuff you probably already know about, but just in case I
found something new, here it is:

The LyX functions manual has the following:
* dialog-show appears to take a nomenclature argument
* Ditto with inset-insert
* There's a nomencl-insert command
* There's a nomencl-print command

The Additional LyX Features manual contains the following sentence:
There is at present no support for glossaries. Adding it would
be fairly trivial, and welcome.

The User's Guide contains a special environment called Verbatim, which
can contain "index- and nomenclature entries".

The Embedded Objects manual contains nothing about Nomenclature

The User Guide contains a section on using Nomenclature/Glossary.

As you already mentioned, when I search CTAN for "nomenclature", I get
8 results.

===

One happy prospect I see is that it can be done in LaTeX, and the
Additional Features manual seems to say it's needed and would be easy to
implement in LyX. If there's no other way, you could implement it in
LyX, thereby solving your problem and also getting a tickertape parade
from the LyX community. I think you're already better at LaTeX than I,
but if you need some assistance, perhaps I could provide some.

SteveT

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Partly solved: Re: Nomenclature with Sections

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

To get parts of the nomenclature as a separate section,
I have in my preamble

\usepackage{ifthen}
%Creating Nomenclature with Sections
\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossar}
\renewcommand{\nomgroup}[1]{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{A}}{\item[\textbf{Roman Symbols}]}{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{G}}{\item[\textbf{Greek Symbols}]}{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{C}}{\item[\textbf{Abbreviations}]}{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{S}}{\item[\textbf{Subscripts}]}{%
\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{Z}}{\item[\textbf{Mathematical Symbols}]}
{}
}% matches mathematical symbols
}% matches Subscripts
}% matches Abbreviations
}% matches Greek Symbols
}% matches Roman Symbols

using in the nomenclature items
symbol   e.g. 2D
description  e.g. twodimensional
sort as  C

I get at the end of the nomenclature (glossary) after my last normal item
Zeitgeber time (ZT) or time cue, synchronises an oscillation

Abbreviations

2D twodimensional
3D threedimensional
...

At the begin of my nomenclature i get
Roman Symbols
and as the first item
action potential ...

I would like to have the nomenclature start immediately with the first 
item, not with the heading Roman Symbols


and furthermore to have the heading Abbreviations not behind the last 
item, but extra, e.g. as a

subsection Abbreviations

I don't know how to achieve this

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Re: Nomenclature with Sections

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Am 11.04.21 um 03:23 schrieb Steve Litt:

Wolfgang Engelmann said on Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:09:48 +0200


I would like to have parts of the nomenclature as a separate section,


I know the word "nomenclature" means "a system of names", but what does
it mean as applied in LyX?

Thanks,

SteveT


If you want to explain words in your document, you use
outline > nomenclature entries
behind the word. It shows the word as a symbol and you add a description 
underneath.

I am used to Glossary instead of nomenclature, which you get with

\AtBeginDocument{\def\nomname{Glossary}}
%leads to bold nomenclature title in entries >
\renewcommand{\nomlabel}[1]{\textsf{\textbf{#1}}}
\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossary
}

in the preamble of > Document

One can also create a part of the nomenclature as a separate section, e.g.
Abbreviations

That is what I am after.

there is a nomenclature manual for latex, but I would like to know for LyX

Perhaps somebody can help me.

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Re: Nomenclature with Sections

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Wolfgang Engelmann said on Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:09:48 +0200

>I would like to have parts of the nomenclature as a separate section, 

I know the word "nomenclature" means "a system of names", but what does
it mean as applied in LyX?

Thanks,

SteveT

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Re: Nomenclature with Sections

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Am 10.04.21 um 13:44 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 10.04.21 um 09:09 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
I would like to have parts of the nomenclature as a separate section, 
namely Abbreviations and Mathematical Symbols (see ##>> below).
I found this in the net, but don't know how to realize it so that both 
appear in the pdf output printed as sections.


%usepackage{ifthen}
%Creating Nomenclature with Sections
%\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossary}

%\renewcommand{\nomgroup}[1]{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{A}}{\item[\textbf{Roman Symbols}]}{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{G}}{\item[\textbf{Greek Symbols}]}{%
##>>%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{C}}{\item[\textbf{Abbreviations}]}{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{S}}{\item[\textbf{Subscripts}]}{%
##>>%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{Z}}{\item[\textbf{Mathematical Symbols}]}
%{}
%}% matches mathematical symbols
%}% matches Subscripts
%}% matches Abbreviations
%}% matches Greek Symbols
%}% matches Roman Symbols

%\def\nompreamble{\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\nomname}\markboth{\nomname}{\nomname}} 



Wolfgang


looking at the .nlo file I see that the entries start with an a as here:

\nomenclatureentry{aprokaryots@[{prokaryots}]

so I guess that the {A} {C} etc above serve to sort the items according 
to these letters. But I still do not know enough to make it work. Anny 
hint were I can read about it in respect to it use in LyX?


Wolfgang


This is what
nomencl: A Package to Create a Nomenclature
says about prefix:

\nomenclature[hprefix]{hsymbol}{hdescription}
where hprefix is used for fine tuning the sort order, hsymbol is the 
symbol you want to describe and hdescription is the actual description. 
The sortkey will be hprefix hsymbol, where hprefix is either the one 
from the optional argument or, if no optional argument was given, the 
default hprefix which may be empty. See Section 2.5 to make sense of this.

Put this command immediately after the equation or text that intro-
duces hsymbol. Usually it is a good idea to avoid a space or an unquoted 
newline just in front of the \nomenclature command. Put a % at the end
of the preceding line if necessary. Don’t forget to enclose math in 
hsymbol in $ signs.


Where is the prefix placed in the nomenclature settings of the Lyx 
document? In sort as?
Would that mean, if I want a nomenclature item to go to the 
abbreviations section, I should add here a C? or a {C}?


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Re: Nomenclature with Sections

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Am 10.04.21 um 09:09 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
I would like to have parts of the nomenclature as a separate section, 
namely Abbreviations and Mathematical Symbols (see ##>> below).
I found this in the net, but don't know how to realize it so that both 
appear in the pdf output printed as sections.


%usepackage{ifthen}
%Creating Nomenclature with Sections
%\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossary}

%\renewcommand{\nomgroup}[1]{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{A}}{\item[\textbf{Roman Symbols}]}{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{G}}{\item[\textbf{Greek Symbols}]}{%
##>>%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{C}}{\item[\textbf{Abbreviations}]}{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{S}}{\item[\textbf{Subscripts}]}{%
##>>%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{Z}}{\item[\textbf{Mathematical Symbols}]}
%{}
%}% matches mathematical symbols
%}% matches Subscripts
%}% matches Abbreviations
%}% matches Greek Symbols
%}% matches Roman Symbols

%\def\nompreamble{\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\nomname}\markboth{\nomname}{\nomname}} 



Wolfgang


looking at the .nlo file I see that the entries start with an a as here:

\nomenclatureentry{aprokaryots@[{prokaryots}]

so I guess that the {A} {C} etc above serve to sort the items according 
to these letters. But I still do not know enough to make it work. Anny 
hint were I can read about it in respect to it use in LyX?


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Nomenclature with Sections

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I would like to have parts of the nomenclature as a separate section, 
namely Abbreviations and Mathematical Symbols (see ##>> below).
I found this in the net, but don't know how to realize it so that both 
appear in the pdf output printed as sections.


%usepackage{ifthen}
%Creating Nomenclature with Sections
%\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossary}

%\renewcommand{\nomgroup}[1]{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{A}}{\item[\textbf{Roman Symbols}]}{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{G}}{\item[\textbf{Greek Symbols}]}{%
##>>%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{C}}{\item[\textbf{Abbreviations}]}{%
%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{S}}{\item[\textbf{Subscripts}]}{%
##>>%\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{Z}}{\item[\textbf{Mathematical Symbols}]}
%{}
%}% matches mathematical symbols
%}% matches Subscripts
%}% matches Abbreviations
%}% matches Greek Symbols
%}% matches Roman Symbols

%\def\nompreamble{\addcontentsline{toc}{section}{\nomname}\markboth{\nomname}{\nomname}}

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Q_10 in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I have a nomenclature item with the symbol Q_{10}
and the description
a measure of how a reaction rate changes with increasing temperature. It 
is the ratio of the reaction rate when the temperature is increased by 
10°C to the original rate.


I added in   Sort as   Q10

I marked   Literal

I would have expected in the pdf output that it is sorted under Q, but 
it is at the very end of the nomenclature.


Why? What did I do wrong?

Wolfgang
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nomenclature indentation -how to

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

I use this in the latex preamble of the document settings of lyx for the 
nomenclature items to be displayed in two columns, to have the symbols 
in bold, and to indent the descriptions. I would liek to reduce the 
indentation in order to get more space for the text. Unfortunately I 
don't know were in the latex preamble below it is done. Can somebody 
help me?

Wolfgang

% Two column nomenclature 
\usepackage{multicol}
\makeatletter
\@ifundefined{chapter}
{\def\wilh@nomsection{section}}
{\def\wilh@nomsection{chapter}}
\def\thenomenclature{%
\begin{multicols}{2}[%
\csname\wilh@nomsection\endcsname*{\nomname}
\if@intoc\addcontentsline{toc}{\wilh@nomsection}{\nomname}\fi
\nompreamble]
\list{}{%
\labelwidth\nom@tempdim
\leftmargin\labelwidth
\advance\leftmargin\labelsep
\itemsep\nomitemsep
\let\makelabel\nomlabel}%
}
\def\endthenomenclature{%
\endlist
\end{multicols}
\nompostamble}
\makeatother
% Two column nomenclature 
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Re: LyX 2.3 alpha nomenclature

[Richard Heck]

On 04/26/2017 06:31 AM, F M Salter wrote:
>
> Nomenclature entries produce pdf showing  $x$ not /x!/
>

It would be helpful if you could produce a small (minimal) test file.
It would also be best sent to lyx-devel (cc'd here).

Richard

LyX 2.3 alpha nomenclature

[F M Salter]

Nomenclature entries produce pdf showing  $x$ not /x!/

Regards

Frank Salter

Re: Nomenclature-Glossary >solved

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 30.03.2017 um 07:54 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 29.03.2017 um 21:05 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 29.03.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 29.03.2017 um 15:28 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
Could somebody give me a pointer where I can find informations re 
Nomenclature. I found how to change the normal Nomenclature into 
Glossary in the preamble:

\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossar}
But how do I
1- get a two column Glossary, in order to save space
2- how do I reduce the space between the entered name and the 
explanation such as:

FRQ< here less space   > Frequency Protein
Wolfgang


Forgot to say, that I am using Komascript book style
Wolfgang
I found out the answer to question 2 (clicking on nomenclature, list 
indentation > custom, custom width e.g. 5 mm)
For question 1 I guess I have to insert the multicolumn {2}, but how 
do I restrict it to the glossary?

Wolfgang

found also the answer to question 2 myself: (in ERT):
 \begin{multicols}{2} before and \end{multicols} after the 
Nomenclature item at end of the document.

But there is a third question:
How can I put the glossary items in bold?
Wolfgang
LyX Document 

Found the answer to my third question in the User guide 6.7.1:

\renewcommand{\nomlabel}[1]{\textsf{\textbf{#1}}}

Re: Nomenclature-Glossary

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 29.03.2017 um 21:05 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 29.03.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 29.03.2017 um 15:28 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
Could somebody give me a pointer where I can find informations re 
Nomenclature. I found how to change the normal Nomenclature into 
Glossary in the preamble:

\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossar}
But how do I
1- get a two column Glossary, in order to save space
2- how do I reduce the space between the entered name and the 
explanation such as:

FRQ< here less space   > Frequency Protein
Wolfgang


Forgot to say, that I am using Komascript book style
Wolfgang
I found out the answer to question 2 (clicking on nomenclature, list 
indentation > custom, custom width e.g. 5 mm)
For question 1 I guess I have to insert the multicolumn {2}, but how 
do I restrict it to the glossary?

Wolfgang

found also the answer to question 2 myself: (in ERT):
 \begin{multicols}{2} before and \end{multicols} after the Nomenclature 
item at end of the document.

But there is a third question:
How can I put the glossary items in bold?
Wolfgang
LyX Document

Re: Nomenclature-Glossary

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 29.03.2017 um 20:45 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:



Am 29.03.2017 um 15:28 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
Could somebody give me a pointer where I can find informations re 
Nomenclature. I found how to change the normal Nomenclature into 
Glossary in the preamble:

\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossar}
But how do I
1- get a two column Glossary, in order to save space
2- how do I reduce the space between the entered name and the 
explanation such as:

FRQ< here less space   > Frequency Protein
Wolfgang


Forgot to say, that I am using Komascript book style
Wolfgang
I found out the answer to question 2 (clicking on nomenclature, list 
indentation > custom, custom width e.g. 5 mm)
For question 1 I guess I have to insert the multicolumn {2}, but how do 
I restrict it to the glossary?

Wolfgang

Re: Nomenclature-Glossary

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 29.03.2017 um 15:28 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
Could somebody give me a pointer where I can find informations re 
Nomenclature. I found how to change the normal Nomenclature into 
Glossary in the preamble:

\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossar}
But how do I
1- get a two column Glossary, in order to save space
2- how do I reduce the space between the entered name and the 
explanation such as:

FRQ< here less space   > Frequency Protein
Wolfgang


Forgot to say, that I am using Komascript book style
Wolfgang

Nomenclature-Glossary

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Could somebody give me a pointer where I can find informations re 
Nomenclature. I found how to change the normal Nomenclature into 
Glossary in the preamble:

\renewcommand{\nomname}{Glossar}
But how do I
1- get a two column Glossary, in order to save space
2- how do I reduce the space between the entered name and the 
explanation such as:

FRQ< here less space   > Frequency Protein
Wolfgang

put Nomenclature in 2 column

[edu Gpl]

Dear lyx users

i used this code in preamble:
\renewcommand{\nomname}{المصطلحات}
to add nomenclature title in arabic language.

now,i want to put the nomenclature in 2 column, i tried to used multi
column models in lyx, but this models put the "nomenclature title" in the
first column not in the center of the page.
the i tried this code:
http://latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=46=14564
but its not work with me.

please how i can do it?

best regards

Nomenclature in TOC different/unexpected in LyX2.1/CLT4.1 vs Lyx2,2.2/CLT4.2

[Michael Berger]

Dear List,

The screenshot shows my code in Lyx 2.1/Classicthesis4.1;  in the table 
of contents it produces exactly what is desired:


Nomenclature and Glossary 142

The same codeentered in Lyx 2.2.2/Classicthesis4.2(biblatex_biber) 
produces in the table of content:


Nomenclature and Glossary 37

   Nomenclature and Glossary 39 (the document is double-sided)

Here, if I replace 'Nomenclature and Glossary' by 'Nomenclature' in the 
second code line I get:


Nomenclature 37

   Nomenclature and Glossary 39

Page 37 has some text from the preceding section but absolutely nothing 
else. Page 38 is the back of page 37 and hence is completely empty. So, 
it looks as if the word 'Nomenclature' is just showing in the TOC 
without effecting the rest of the PDf document in .


Needless to say that I have been playing around a lot but could not get 
rid of that "undesired" and IMHO useless extra TOC entry.


Any comment? Is this a Lyx issue?

Thanks and cheers,

Michael

Re: can no longer format apearence of nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag, den 22.10.2016, 18:12 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
> PS: I had used an exclamation mark like this "siehe LyX!" which
> inserted 
> a new line starting with the comma followed by the referenced page 
> number;  the snapshot shows the output with the exclamation mark
> removed.

You need to escape the exclamation mark by a preceding straight quote:
Siehe LyX"!

This is since it has a special function in makeindex (and nomencl which
builds on that). The same applies to @ and |.

Jürgen

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Re: can no longer format apearence of nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

On 10/22/2016 03:55 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Samstag, den 22.10.2016, 13:41 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:

here comes a mini file and I am keeping my fingers crossed!

You need to load nomencl with the "refpage" option in order to display
page references. Pass "refpage" to Document > Settings > Class > Custom
Options.

Also, I'd suggest to change the preamble line to
\renewcommand*\pagedeclaration[1]{,\nobreakspace\hyperpage{#1}}

to avoid line breaks before the comma.

HTH
Jürgen

Oh!
How silly of me. Now that you name it I remember to have used 'refpage' 
in earlier works but as an excuse you may accept that I wasn't aware 
then of its purpose.
Using the line you suggested combined with a setting of 'custom 3,3 cm' 
produces the snapshot.
I also tried other variations of that line and they all work well (e.g. 
using \dotfill, \hfill etc.)


Great! and again a big Thank You,
Michael

PS: I had used an exclamation mark like this "siehe LyX!" which inserted 
a new line starting with the comma followed by the referenced page 
number;  the snapshot shows the output with the exclamation mark removed.

Re: can no longer format apearence of nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag, den 22.10.2016, 13:41 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
> here comes a mini file and I am keeping my fingers crossed!

You need to load nomencl with the "refpage" option in order to display
page references. Pass "refpage" to Document > Settings > Class > Custom
Options.

Also, I'd suggest to change the preamble line to
\renewcommand*\pagedeclaration[1]{,\nobreakspace\hyperpage{#1}}

to avoid line breaks before the comma.

HTH
Jürgen

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Re: can no longer format apearence of nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

On 10/21/2016 06:19 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Freitag, den 21.10.2016, 10:26 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:

when using Lyx 2.1 / classicthesis 4.1 / texlive2013 the last two
lines
of the screen shot produced a very appealing nomenclature list in
PDF.

But after switching to Lyx 2.2.2 / texlive 2016 and using
'classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex-biber' neither of said two lines
does
work. It is just as if they did not exist.

So, the only means to somehow change the format is to use one of the
three nomenclature settings 'default', 'custom', and 'longest label
width'. But these neither produce a somewhat attractive output
format
nor back-references to page numbers.

In 'classicthesis-config.tex' I found no entry re 'nomenclature'
that
could possibly be edited.

Any clue  what may help on this?

As always: Not without a minimal example lyx file.

Jürgen


Thanks and cheers,

Michael

Dear Jürgen,
here comes a mini file and I am keeping my fingers crossed!

Thanks and cheers!
Michael



mini_Nomenclature.lyx
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Re: can no longer format apearence of nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Freitag, den 21.10.2016, 10:26 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
> when using Lyx 2.1 / classicthesis 4.1 / texlive2013 the last two
> lines 
> of the screen shot produced a very appealing nomenclature list in
> PDF.
> 
> But after switching to Lyx 2.2.2 / texlive 2016 and using 
> 'classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex-biber' neither of said two lines
> does  
> work. It is just as if they did not exist.
> 
> So, the only means to somehow change the format is to use one of the 
> three nomenclature settings 'default', 'custom', and 'longest label 
> width'. But these neither produce a somewhat attractive output
> format 
> nor back-references to page numbers.
> 
> In 'classicthesis-config.tex' I found no entry re 'nomenclature'
> that 
> could possibly be edited.
> 
> Any clue  what may help on this?

As always: Not without a minimal example lyx file.

Jürgen

> 
> Thanks and cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 

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can no longer format apearence of nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

Dear list,

when using Lyx 2.1 / classicthesis 4.1 / texlive2013 the last two lines 
of the screen shot produced a very appealing nomenclature list in PDF.


But after switching to Lyx 2.2.2 / texlive 2016 and using 
'classicthesis-LyX-v4.2_biblatex-biber' neither of said two lines does  
work. It is just as if they did not exist.


So, the only means to somehow change the format is to use one of the 
three nomenclature settings 'default', 'custom', and 'longest label 
width'. But these neither produce a somewhat attractive output format 
nor back-references to page numbers.


In 'classicthesis-config.tex' I found no entry re 'nomenclature' that 
could possibly be edited.


Any clue  what may help on this?

Thanks and cheers,

Michael

Re: how to get rid of dots in nomenclature subgroup headings

[Karl Linek]

Hello,

I'm using sections in my nomenclature. It worked well, but suddenly it
didn't work anymore. Studing the wiki ditn't help. Then I read this
letter. The command '\usepackage{ifthen}' in the preamble fixed all My
problems. Therefore one should add this command in the wiki 'Creating
Nomenclature with Sections'.

Nevertheless thank you for your steady work.



Am Mittwoch, den 07.10.2015, 13:56 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
> Dear Friends of LyX,
> in the nomenclature of my document (KOMAScript article) I use in the
> preamble
> 
>  \usepackage{ifthen}
> \renewcommand{\nomgroup}[1]{%
> \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{C}}{\item[\textbf{Symbols}]}{%
> \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{D}}{\item[\textbf{Numbers}]}{%
> \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{B}}{\item[\textbf{Abbreviations}]}{%
> \ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{A}}{\item[\textbf{Definitions}]}{}
> }% B matches Abbreviations
> }% A matches Definitions
> }% C matches Symbols
> }% D matches Numbers
> 
> and in the LyX document
> \renewcommand{\nomlabel}[1]{#1\dotfill}
> \renewcommand{\nomname}{Nomenclature of Linguistic Terms}
> 
> I not only get dots in each entry as desired but also undesired dots
> after the subgroup headings as per screen shot.
> How to remove the dots after the subgroup headings?
> 
> Thanks and regards
> 
> 
> Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
> Im Borngrund 7a
> D-35606 Solms
> id...@online.de
> Fon: +49 6442 706509
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Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

Jürgen, you helped once more.
Those nomenclature settings had slipped my mind during my desperate 
struggle for a solution.

Great! Many thanks,
Michael

On 04/24/2016 04:11 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Sonntag, den 24.04.2016, 16:00 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:

Jürgen, the minifile

Well, in the settings of the nomencl list, you have set:
List indendation: Custom, 11mm

Instead of "Longest Label Width" (which you probably have in your KOMA
file).

So you get what you requested.

Jürgen

Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag, den 24.04.2016, 16:00 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
> Jürgen, the minifile

Well, in the settings of the nomencl list, you have set:
List indendation: Custom, 11mm

Instead of "Longest Label Width" (which you probably have in your KOMA
file).

So you get what you requested.

Jürgen

Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

Jürgen, the minifile
Michael


On 04/24/2016 03:06 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Sonntag, den 24.04.2016, 14:24 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:

Yes Jürgen, it is indeed the width of the first column / both columns
in
each line of the nomenclature table.

In scr the width of the first column nicely increases according to
its
longest entry and at the same time the width of the second column is
accordingly decreased. A vertical line drawn between the two columns
it
is straight.

In classicthesis there is no such adjustment as I see it. (neither
any
other distinct orderly system)

Minimal example file, please.

If I use the proposed code in a classicthesis document, I get the
desired result (see screenshot).

Jürgen





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Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

On 04/24/2016 01:11 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Sonntag, den 24.04.2016, 11:45 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:

  Moin Jürgen,

I am very sorry for not making myself clear enough!
Your above code returns what I want in scr classes documents > see
screenshot "ok.png"

But the same code does not quite so in classicthesis documents > see
screenshot "notok.png"

It is hard to guess what is "OK" and what is "not OK" for you just from
the images. Is it the width of the first column in the nomencl table?

In both cases, it is adjusted to the width of the entry, so I do not
actually see a difference (only the "not OK" entry has a longer item).

Jürgen
Yes Jürgen, it is indeed the width of the first column / both columns in 
each line of the nomenclature table.


In scr the width of the first column nicely increases according to its 
longest entry and at the same time the width of the second column is 
accordingly decreased. A vertical line drawn between the two columns it 
is straight.


In classicthesis there is no such adjustment as I see it. (neither any 
other distinct orderly system)
In the first line of  'notok.png'  the text of both columns looks sort 
of "merged", almost like one single sentence. If we try to draw a 
vertical line between the two columns along the entire nomenclature 
table we get a zigzag (the column widths are different in each line of 
the nomenclature).
If you could see the complete nomenclature list you would agree that it 
just looks ugly.


Michael
(sorry bothering you over and over again)

Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Sonntag, den 24.04.2016, 11:45 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
>  Moin Jürgen,
> 
> I am very sorry for not making myself clear enough!
> Your above code returns what I want in scr classes documents > see
> screenshot "ok.png"
> 
> But the same code does not quite so in classicthesis documents > see
> screenshot "notok.png"

It is hard to guess what is "OK" and what is "not OK" for you just from
the images. Is it the width of the first column in the nomencl table?

In both cases, it is adjusted to the width of the entry, so I do not
actually see a difference (only the "not OK" entry has a longer item).

Jürgen

Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

On 04/24/2016 09:36 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

... Perhaps somebody could give this problem the final touch!?
I do not understand what you are trying to achieve. In any case, it is
clear that the code you posted above does not produce backlinks, since
it does not use the \hyperpage macro. Also, the dotfill command misses
the backslash.

Maybe this is what you want:

\renewcommand*\pagedeclaration[1]{\dotfill\nobreakspace\hyperpage{#1}}

If not, you should explain a bit more what you want.

Jürgen

Moin Jürgen,

I am very sorry for not making myself clear enough!
Your above code returns what I want in scr classes documents > see 
screenshot "ok.png"


But the same code does not quite so in classicthesis documents > see 
screenshot "notok.png"


Would be great if you have a clue for that as well!? :-*

Thanks and cheers, Michael  

Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag, den 23.04.2016, 17:50 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
>  Thanks Jürgen,
> your code does not only produce colored page numbers but even shows
> the correct colors for each respective document, e. g. RoyalBlue for
> classicthesis:
> a) for KOMA see 'colorsKoma.png'
> b) for classicthesis see 'colorsMiede.png'
> 
> a) the first column adapts its width; using dots or not in-between is
> of less relevance
> b) looks great but the width of the first column appears to be fix
> and in cases overlaps  with the following text; dots are nice but
> should be preceding the text, not following it
> 
> I tried around with
> \def\pagedeclaration#1{dotfill\nobreakspace#1}
> but got either no color or dots in the wrong place.
> 
> Perhaps somebody could give this problem the final touch!?

I do not understand what you are trying to achieve. In any case, it is
clear that the code you posted above does not produce backlinks, since
it does not use the \hyperpage macro. Also, the dotfill command misses
the backslash.

Maybe this is what you want:

\renewcommand*\pagedeclaration[1]{\dotfill\nobreakspace\hyperpage{#1}}

If not, you should explain a bit more what you want.

Jürgen

> 
> Best and cheers!
> Michael
> 
> 

Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

On 04/23/2016 10:21 AM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

Am Samstag, den 23.04.2016, 08:31 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:

Can somebody please, tell me how to effect colored back-referenced
page numbers in my nomenclatures
a) in KOMA documents
b) in classicthesis ?

I have not tested it, but the hyperref README states:

nomencl
---
   * Example for introducing links for the page numbers:
   \renewcommand*{\pagedeclaration}[1]{\unskip, \hyperpage{#1}}

Jürgen

Thanks Jürgen,
your code does not only produce colored page numbers but even shows 
thecorrect colors for each respective document, e. g. RoyalBlue for 
classicthesis:

a) for KOMA see 'colorsKoma.png'
b) for classicthesis see 'colorsMiede.png'

a) the first column adapts its width; using dots or not in-between is of 
less relevance
b) looks great but the width of the first column appears to be fix andin 
cases overlaps  with the following text; dots are nice but should be 
preceding the text, not following it


I tried around with
\def\pagedeclaration#1{dotfill\nobreakspace#1}
but got either no color or dots in the wrong place.

Perhaps somebody could give this problem the final touch!?

Best and cheers!
Michael

Re: colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Samstag, den 23.04.2016, 08:31 +0200 schrieb Michael Berger:
> Hi all,
> a have quite a number of KOMA documents and others based on Miede's 
> classicthesis.
> I see colored referenced page numbers in TOC, lists, figures, index 
> lists, floats, cross references, body text etc. but that numbers in 
> nomenclature remain black.
> Can somebody please, tell me how to effect colored back-referenced
> page 
> numbers too in my nomenclatures
> a) in KOMA documents
> b) in classicthesis ?

I have not tested it, but the hyperref README states:

nomencl
---
  * Example for introducing links for the page numbers:
  \renewcommand*{\pagedeclaration}[1]{\unskip, \hyperpage{#1}}

Jürgen

> 
> Regards,
> Michael Berger

colored back-referenced page numbers in a Nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

Hi all,
a have quite a number of KOMA documents and others based on Miede's 
classicthesis.
I see colored referenced page numbers in TOC, lists, figures, index 
lists, floats, cross references, body text etc. but that numbers in 
nomenclature remain black.
Can somebody please, tell me how to effect colored back-referenced page 
numbers too in my nomenclatures

a) in KOMA documents
b) in classicthesis ?

Regards,
Michael Berger

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Ludwig Kräh]

> I will do that but cannot find the time right now.
> As a last attempt (not very promising anyway) try this:
> a) change the document class from KOMA-Script report to KOMA-Script article
> b) if not yet done add the Module 'Linguistic' (in this case you will 
> also have to have covington.sty in place)
> c) in the preamble add \usepackage[style=long,nolist]{glossaries}
> 
> Michael
> 
> 

Thank you for your help. Unfortunately this attempt did not work, either.
I will try this solution next
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/12346/use-a-quality-glossary-and-acronym-list-in-lyx
Maybe this works for me.

Ludwig

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Michael Berger]

On 02/16/2016 02:04 PM, Ludwig Kräh wrote:

Ludwig, I am wondering;
My Document Class is KOMA-Script Article like yours.
In Class Options - Custom I have these entries:
paper=A4,fontsize=11pt,idxtotoc,listof=totoc,refpage,prefix=a (this last
entry is for Indexing and of no relevance for a nomenclature)
and that works just fine.
In > Preferences  > Language Settings > Language you may try
Active/Deactivate the 'Set languages globally' and see if that brings a
change.
In my preamble there is not a single line that has to do with
nomenclature (and I think there is no need for it).
BTW, I am using four different languages in my document

Michael




Michael,

I created a new minimal document with the settings you described
http://pastebin.com/qe9Bp0WH
but it's still not working. I really don't know what I'm getting wrong here.
Could you perhaps provide a very basic working example?

Ludwig

I will do that but cannot find the time right now.
As a last attempt (not very promising anyway) try this:
a) change the document class from KOMA-Script report to KOMA-Script article
b) if not yet done add the Module 'Linguistic' (in this case you will 
also have to have covington.sty in place)

c) in the preamble add \usepackage[style=long,nolist]{glossaries}

Michael

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Ludwig Kräh]

> Ludwig, I am wondering;
> My Document Class is KOMA-Script Article like yours.
> In Class Options - Custom I have these entries:
> paper=A4,fontsize=11pt,idxtotoc,listof=totoc,refpage,prefix=a (this last 
> entry is for Indexing and of no relevance for a nomenclature)
> and that works just fine.
> In > Preferences  > Language Settings > Language you may try 
> Active/Deactivate the 'Set languages globally' and see if that brings a 
> change.
> In my preamble there is not a single line that has to do with 
> nomenclature (and I think there is no need for it).
> BTW, I am using four different languages in my document
> 
> Michael
> 
> 


Michael,

I created a new minimal document with the settings you described
http://pastebin.com/qe9Bp0WH
but it's still not working. I really don't know what I'm getting wrong here.
Could you perhaps provide a very basic working example?

Ludwig 

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Michael Berger]

On 02/16/2016 12:24 PM, Ludwig Kräh wrote:

Ludwig,
Document Settings > Document Class, in Class Options - Custom add 'refpage'
Your problem should be gone -please confirm.
Michael



Hello Michael,

I already tried that one. My custom options are
"liststotoc, bibtotoc, intoc, refpage"
The document class I'm using is report (KOMA-script).

Ludwig

Ludwig, I am wondering;
My Document Class is KOMA-Script Article like yours.
In Class Options - Custom I have these entries:
paper=A4,fontsize=11pt,idxtotoc,listof=totoc,refpage,prefix=a (this last 
entry is for Indexing and of no relevance for a nomenclature)

and that works just fine.
In > Preferences  > Language Settings > Language you may try 
Active/Deactivate the 'Set languages globally' and see if that brings a 
change.
In my preamble there is not a single line that has to do with 
nomenclature (and I think there is no need for it).

BTW, I am using four different languages in my document

Michael

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Ludwig Kräh]

> Ludwig,
> Document Settings > Document Class, in Class Options - Custom add 'refpage'
> Your problem should be gone -please confirm.
> Michael
> 
> 

Hello Michael,

I already tried that one. My custom options are
"liststotoc, bibtotoc, intoc, refpage"
The document class I'm using is report (KOMA-script).

Ludwig

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Michael Berger]

On 02/16/2016 10:23 AM, Ludwig Kräh wrote:

Hallo Ludwig,
have you tried > Document > Settings > PDF properties > then activate
'Use Hyperref Support' and in tab Hyperlinks activate Color Links and/or
Backreferences

Good luck,
Michel Berger
PS: after that you may have to remove/alter some of the entries in your
preamble



Hallo Michael,

Thank you, I already activated basic hyperref support, but I forgot/missed
that other option. I chose "Backlinks: Page" in the dropdown menu. Now there
are backlinks in my bibliography (which is nice), but still not in the
nomenclature. I did not have to change my preamble, it still works.

Ludwig Kräh

Ludwig,
Document Settings > Document Class, in Class Options - Custom add 'refpage'
Your problem should be gone -please confirm.
Michael

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Ludwig Kräh]

> Hallo Ludwig,
> have you tried > Document > Settings > PDF properties > then activate 
> 'Use Hyperref Support' and in tab Hyperlinks activate Color Links and/or 
> Backreferences
> 
> Good luck,
> Michel Berger
> PS: after that you may have to remove/alter some of the entries in your 
> preamble
> 
> 

Hallo Michael,

Thank you, I already activated basic hyperref support, but I forgot/missed
that other option. I chose "Backlinks: Page" in the dropdown menu. Now there
are backlinks in my bibliography (which is nice), but still not in the
nomenclature. I did not have to change my preamble, it still works.

Ludwig Kräh

Re: Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Michael Berger]

On 02/16/2016 09:30 AM, Ludwig Kräh wrote:

Hello LyX users,

I'm new to LyX and trying out some things. I'm using a nomenclature and now
wondering about the following. How can I automatically add hyperrefs to my
nomenclature entries, which point back to where the name has been used?

It's kind of similar to what this user here asked, but I can't get this
solution to work in LyX.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/197166/how-to-make-page-numbers-in-a-nomenclature-hyperref-links

I already managed to make the page number appear in my language with

\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ (Seite\nobreakspace{}#1)}

but this

\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ \hyperlink{page.#1}{page\nobreakspace#1} }

does not work.

This is my preamble

%
\usepackage{charter}
\usepackage[scaled=.92]{helvet}
\usepackage{courier}
\usepackage{microtype}

\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{
 \myTOC
 \clearpage
 \pagenumbering{arabic}
}

\renewcommand\nomname{Nomenklatur}

\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ (Seite\nobreakspace{}#1)}
%Not working
%\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ \hyperlink{page.#1}{page\nobreakspace#1} }

%==

Any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance.

Hallo Ludwig,
have you tried > Document > Settings > PDF properties > then activate 
'Use Hyperref Support' and in tab Hyperlinks activate Color Links and/or 
Backreferences


Good luck,
Michel Berger
PS: after that you may have to remove/alter some of the entries in your 
preamble

Adding hyperrefs with page numbers to nomenclature entries

[Ludwig Kräh]

Hello LyX users,

I'm new to LyX and trying out some things. I'm using a nomenclature and now
wondering about the following. How can I automatically add hyperrefs to my
nomenclature entries, which point back to where the name has been used?

It's kind of similar to what this user here asked, but I can't get this
solution to work in LyX.
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/197166/how-to-make-page-numbers-in-a-nomenclature-hyperref-links

I already managed to make the page number appear in my language with

\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ (Seite\nobreakspace{}#1)}

but this

\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ \hyperlink{page.#1}{page\nobreakspace#1} }

does not work.

This is my preamble

%
\usepackage{charter}
\usepackage[scaled=.92]{helvet}
\usepackage{courier}
\usepackage{microtype}

\pagenumbering{roman}
\let\myTOC\tableofcontents
\renewcommand\tableofcontents{
\myTOC
\clearpage
\pagenumbering{arabic}
}

\renewcommand\nomname{Nomenklatur}

\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ (Seite\nobreakspace{}#1)}
%Not working
%\renewcommand{\pagedeclaration}[1]{ \hyperlink{page.#1}{page\nobreakspace#1} }

%==

Any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance.

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Guenter Milde]

On 2016-01-07, Georg Baum wrote:
> Guenter Milde wrote:


>> Generally, it is good to have the options globally, so that other packages
>> can pick this up.

>> In this document, however, the indexing is confused somehow to use one of
>> the secondary languages (given before "english").

> Yes. It is a bug in nomencl.sty: It does not process global language options 
> in the same (unintuitive) order as babel. 

BTW: this order (last wins) is the default for many LaTeX packages
 (inputenc, fontenc, babel). I find it as intutitive as "first wins".
 
 Polyglossia deliberately reversed this order (either because it
 found it "unintuitive" or to "stand out"). However, I don't think
 nomencl.sty behaviour is due to polyglossia compatiblility. 
 Rather, the case of multiple document languages as global document
 options is not considered.


> The first language wins for nomencl.sty. I fear there is not much LyX
> can do, except looking for a better alternative for nomencl (it seems
> to be unmaintained).

I had the idea that LyX could 

* Hand all languages directly to babel, and
* in addition, put the main language in the global options (for packages
  like nomencl)

However, a test revealed that this does not work: As babel parses first
global options and then the local ones and in the process ignores double
entries, the document language comes out wrong :-(
(This is, indeed, a design flaw in babel.)
 
Second idea: feed supported languages (croatian, danish, english, french,
german, italian, polish, portuguese, russian, spanish, ukrainian)
directly to nomencl.

Test result: 
  * does not work, global options are processed in additon to local ones.
  * actually, not the order of the languages in the source file is
important, but the order of option definitin in nomnecl.sty: i.e. with
multiple (supported) languages, the one last in alphabetical order wins!
(e.g. [ngerman,spanish,french] will print página (Spanish for page).)

So, short of fixing nomencl, ...

>> ... we need a document specific setting for this.
>> (But see also my other post exploring the issue.)

> I think so. In general, any lyxrc setting that changes how documents are 
> exported to .tex is bad IMHO, since this makes documents depend on the 
> installation. The lyxrc setting should be replacved by a document specific 
> setting, and the default for this setting would then be determined by the 
> template for new documents.

Seconded. 

To make documents independent of the installation, this should also be
implemented for 

* the language package preference, 
* the font encoding
* bibliography processor and options
* index generation
* nomenclature command


Günter

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Guenter Milde]

On 2016-01-08, Michael Berger wrote:
> On 01/07/2016 10:39 PM, Georg Baum wrote:
>> Guenter Milde wrote:

>>> Generally, it is good to have the options globally, so that other packages
>>> can pick this up.

>>> In this document, however, the indexing is confused somehow to use one of
>>> the secondary languages (given before "english").

...

> Again all my many documents correctly print 'page' (and NOT 'Seite') 
> with "Set languages globally" deactivated.

> Furthermore, it does so regardless whether the secondary language(s) is 
> given before the primary language or not.

Testing revealed, that actually the last of the nomencl-supported languages
"wins" out of all languages handed as global options or directly to
nomencl.sty.

LyX does not pass a language option to nomencl currently.

This means:

-> With "Set languages globally" deactivated, nomencl uses always English
   (its built-in default).

-> With "Set languages globally" true, nomencl uses the last in
   alphabetical order out of the intersection of the sets "languages used in
   the document" and "languages supported by nomencl".
   
   This means, currently
   
   * you should activate "Set languages globally" if you want, e.g., a
 German nomenclature for an "all German" document,
 
   * this also works for a German document with some English or French (as
 these languages sort before German), but you   
   
   * cannot create a document with some Spanish text parts and nomenclature
 in German.
 (This would requires "Set languages globally" false PLUS passing of the
 document language directly to nomencl.sty.)

I am not sure, whether this problem should be worked around in LyX (it seems
a rather seldom use case) or rather be addressed directly in the nomencl
package. (BTW: I have a patch for nomencl.sty support of ngerman in my local
texmf folder.)

Günter

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

On 01/07/2016 10:39 PM, Georg Baum wrote:

Guenter Milde wrote:


It is "Tools>Preferences>Language Settings>Language>Set languages
globally" which controls whether the language options are passed as
global options to the document or directly to babel.

Sorry, I was too tired yesterday, and did not recognize the text in my
german UI.


Generally, it is good to have the options globally, so that other packages
can pick this up.

In this document, however, the indexing is confused somehow to use one of
the secondary languages (given before "english").

Yes. It is a bug in nomencl.sty: It does not process global language options
in the same (unintuitive) order as babel. The first language wins for
nomencl.sty. I fear there is not much LyX can do, except looking for a
better alternative for nomencl (it seems to be unmaintained).


Maybe we need a document specific setting for this.
(But see also my other post exploring the issue.)

I think so. In general, any lyxrc setting that changes how documents are
exported to .tex is bad IMHO, since this makes documents depend on the
installation. The lyxrc setting should be replacved by a document specific
setting, and the default for this setting would then be determined by the
template for new documents.


Georg

Good morning,
I follow this with great interest but as a simple user can only report 
what I observed.

And there is more, may be or may not be related to this very issue:
With 'Mark foreign languages' _*always ON*_ in Tools > Preferences > 
Language settings, the foreign (secondary languages) sometimes do and 
sometimes do not show blue underlines apparently depending on the 
citation style (and/or biblatex?).


For instance I have no blue underlinings with
apa, natbib author-year, jurabib

And I do have blue underlinings with
chicago, oscola

So, 'Mark foreign languages' seems to be overruled by some other more 
dominant setting.
Again all my many documents correctly print 'page' (and NOT 'Seite') 
with "Set languages globally" deactivated.
Furthermore, it does so regardless whether the secondary language(s) is 
given before the primary language or not.


Cheers,
Michael Berger

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Georg Baum]

Guenter Milde wrote:

> It is "Tools>Preferences>Language Settings>Language>Set languages
> globally" which controls whether the language options are passed as
> global options to the document or directly to babel.

Sorry, I was too tired yesterday, and did not recognize the text in my 
german UI.

> Generally, it is good to have the options globally, so that other packages
> can pick this up.
> 
> In this document, however, the indexing is confused somehow to use one of
> the secondary languages (given before "english").

Yes. It is a bug in nomencl.sty: It does not process global language options 
in the same (unintuitive) order as babel. The first language wins for 
nomencl.sty. I fear there is not much LyX can do, except looking for a 
better alternative for nomencl (it seems to be unmaintained).

> Maybe we need a document specific setting for this.
> (But see also my other post exploring the issue.)

I think so. In general, any lyxrc setting that changes how documents are 
exported to .tex is bad IMHO, since this makes documents depend on the 
installation. The lyxrc setting should be replacved by a document specific 
setting, and the default for this setting would then be determined by the 
template for new documents.


Georg

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Kornel Benko]

Am Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2016 um 09:42:38, schrieb Michael Berger 

> Hi Robert, hi Wolfgang,
> ha, but I've never seen any  text in any of my documents underlined blue 
> (or in any other color)!?

Tools->Preferences...->Language Settings->Mark foreign languages

> Michael
> 
> On 01/06/2016 08:06 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > What I do in the case I have blue underlined parts (from another 
> > language) is to go to
> > edit>text style>customized>language>reset
> > and the blue underlines disappear
> > Wolfgang
> >
> > Am 06.01.2016 um 02:19 schrieb Robert Susmilch:
> >> I think this is a similar issue that I’ve encountered.
> >>
> >> I’ve copied and pasted material between different LyX documents that had
> >> languages set to different languages (such as English, English (USA), 
> >> etc) and
> >> the words would be underlined in blue (IIRC). Much frustration and 
> >> search
> >> revealed that this was highlighting different languages within the 
> >> document
> >> compared to the global document language, which LyX then highlighted.
> >>
> >> I imagine that LyX, or another package, is picking up those German 
> >> words and
> >> setting a language switch somewhere. I’ve successfully fixed my 
> >> highlighting
> >> issues by switching the default language to whatever the offenders 
> >> language was
> >> (seen by placing the cursor on the words, and seen at the bottom 
> >> status bar),
> >> then back to my desired language. This sounds exactly like what fixed 
> >> your
> >> issue, when you swapped languages. This global setting seems to 
> >> overwrite all
> >> local language settings once applied.
> >>
> >

Kornel

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Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Thanks Kornel,
Michael

On 01/06/2016 09:50 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2016 um 09:42:38, schrieb Michael Berger 


Hi Robert, hi Wolfgang,
ha, but I've never seen any  text in any of my documents underlined blue
(or in any other color)!?

Tools->Preferences...->Language Settings->Mark foreign languages


Michael

On 01/06/2016 08:06 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

What I do in the case I have blue underlined parts (from another
language) is to go to
edit>text style>customized>language>reset
and the blue underlines disappear
Wolfgang

Am 06.01.2016 um 02:19 schrieb Robert Susmilch:

I think this is a similar issue that I’ve encountered.

I’ve copied and pasted material between different LyX documents that had
languages set to different languages (such as English, English (USA),
etc) and
the words would be underlined in blue (IIRC). Much frustration and
search
revealed that this was highlighting different languages within the
document
compared to the global document language, which LyX then highlighted.

I imagine that LyX, or another package, is picking up those German
words and
setting a language switch somewhere. I’ve successfully fixed my
highlighting
issues by switching the default language to whatever the offenders
language was
(seen by placing the cursor on the words, and seen at the bottom
status bar),
then back to my desired language. This sounds exactly like what fixed
your
issue, when you swapped languages. This global setting seems to
overwrite all
local language settings once applied.


Kornel

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Sorry, of course, the blue underlines are there!! I reckon it is still 
too early in the morning.

Michael

On 01/06/2016 09:42 AM, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi Robert, hi Wolfgang,
ha, but I've never seen any  text in any of my documents underlined 
blue (or in any other color)!?


Michael

On 01/06/2016 08:06 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
What I do in the case I have blue underlined parts (from another 
language) is to go to

edit>text style>customized>language>reset
and the blue underlines disappear
Wolfgang

Am 06.01.2016 um 02:19 schrieb Robert Susmilch:

I think this is a similar issue that I’ve encountered.

I’ve copied and pasted material between different LyX documents that 
had
languages set to different languages (such as English, English 
(USA), etc) and
the words would be underlined in blue (IIRC). Much frustration and 
search
revealed that this was highlighting different languages within the 
document

compared to the global document language, which LyX then highlighted.

I imagine that LyX, or another package, is picking up those German 
words and
setting a language switch somewhere. I’ve successfully fixed my 
highlighting
issues by switching the default language to whatever the offenders 
language was
(seen by placing the cursor on the words, and seen at the bottom 
status bar),
then back to my desired language. This sounds exactly like what 
fixed your
issue, when you swapped languages. This global setting seems to 
overwrite all

local language settings once applied.

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Hi Robert, hi Wolfgang,
ha, but I've never seen any  text in any of my documents underlined blue 
(or in any other color)!?


Michael

On 01/06/2016 08:06 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
What I do in the case I have blue underlined parts (from another 
language) is to go to

edit>text style>customized>language>reset
and the blue underlines disappear
Wolfgang

Am 06.01.2016 um 02:19 schrieb Robert Susmilch:

I think this is a similar issue that I’ve encountered.

I’ve copied and pasted material between different LyX documents that had
languages set to different languages (such as English, English (USA), 
etc) and
the words would be underlined in blue (IIRC). Much frustration and 
search
revealed that this was highlighting different languages within the 
document

compared to the global document language, which LyX then highlighted.

I imagine that LyX, or another package, is picking up those German 
words and
setting a language switch somewhere. I’ve successfully fixed my 
highlighting
issues by switching the default language to whatever the offenders 
language was
(seen by placing the cursor on the words, and seen at the bottom 
status bar),
then back to my desired language. This sounds exactly like what fixed 
your
issue, when you swapped languages. This global setting seems to 
overwrite all

local language settings once applied.

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Hi Wolfgang, Robert, Kornel,
thanks for your contributions.
I just want to inform that in my case only one thing produces correct 
results and that is deactivating the global language settings. Here it 
does not matter whether or not the blue underlines are there or not.


Michael

On 01/06/2016 09:50 AM, Kornel Benko wrote:

Am Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2016 um 09:42:38, schrieb Michael Berger 


Hi Robert, hi Wolfgang,
ha, but I've never seen any  text in any of my documents underlined blue
(or in any other color)!?

Tools->Preferences...->Language Settings->Mark foreign languages


Michael

On 01/06/2016 08:06 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:

What I do in the case I have blue underlined parts (from another
language) is to go to
edit>text style>customized>language>reset
and the blue underlines disappear
Wolfgang

Am 06.01.2016 um 02:19 schrieb Robert Susmilch:

I think this is a similar issue that I’ve encountered.

I’ve copied and pasted material between different LyX documents that had
languages set to different languages (such as English, English (USA),
etc) and
the words would be underlined in blue (IIRC). Much frustration and
search
revealed that this was highlighting different languages within the
document
compared to the global document language, which LyX then highlighted.

I imagine that LyX, or another package, is picking up those German
words and
setting a language switch somewhere. I’ve successfully fixed my
highlighting
issues by switching the default language to whatever the offenders
language was
(seen by placing the cursor on the words, and seen at the bottom
status bar),
then back to my desired language. This sounds exactly like what fixed
your
issue, when you swapped languages. This global setting seems to
overwrite all
local language settings once applied.


Kornel

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Guenter Milde]

On 2016-01-06, Georg Baum wrote:
> Michael Berger wrote:

>> Hi Wolfgang, Robert, Kornel,
>> thanks for your contributions.
>> I just want to inform that in my case only one thing produces correct
>> results and that is deactivating the global language settings. Here it
>> does not matter whether or not the blue underlines are there or not.

> What does "deactivating global language settings" mean? I am not aware of 
> any global language setting that can be activated or decativated. Please 
> tell us exactly which setting you change in Deocument->Settings->Language 
> (or in Tools->Preferences)

It is "Tools>Preferences>Language Settings>Language>Set languages
globally" which controls whether the language options are passed as
global options to the document or directly to babel.

Generally, it is good to have the options globally, so that other packages
can pick this up.

In this document, however, the indexing is confused somehow to use one of
the secondary languages (given before "english").

Maybe we need a document specific setting for this.
(But see also my other post exploring the issue.)

Günter

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Georg Baum]

Michael Berger wrote:

> Hi Wolfgang, Robert, Kornel,
> thanks for your contributions.
> I just want to inform that in my case only one thing produces correct
> results and that is deactivating the global language settings. Here it
> does not matter whether or not the blue underlines are there or not.

What does "deactivating global language settings" mean? I am not aware of 
any global language setting that can be activated or decativated. Please 
tell us exactly which setting you change in Deocument->Settings->Language 
(or in Tools->Preferences)


Georg

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Hi,
Starting the original document with the global language settings 
activated the word "Seite" prints in the Nomenclature. After 
deactivating the global settings the correct result "page" is returned. 
After this first and only repair the correct result "page" is returned 
even when the global settings is reactivated and this is permanent.

Anyway, this was the behavior in the 40 pages original document.

I reported this to Günter and he commented:
In any case, you found a bug in LyX. The question is, whether it only 
appears in a very specific corner case or maybe is "self healing". If 
you can reproduce the problem with a minimal example, it would be nice 
if you could post it to the list or file a bug report at bugs.lyx.org.


The minimized example is attached.
However, very much to my surprise the behavior is now slightly different 
in that one may now repeatedly toggle the global language settings ON or 
OFF and will accordingly get "Seite" or "page".


I also found the culprit right on the front page:
Universität Leipzig
Institut für Linguistik
Beethovenstraße 15
D-04107 Leipzig, Germany
With these four lines  removed the problem is also gone. (but of course, 
they are needed)


So, what have we here and where is my mistake?

Cheers,
Michael
LyX Document


testfile-biblatex_oscola.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

What I do in the case I have blue underlined parts (from another 
language) is to go to

edit>text style>customized>language>reset
and the blue underlines disappear
Wolfgang

Am 06.01.2016 um 02:19 schrieb Robert Susmilch:

I think this is a similar issue that I’ve encountered.

I’ve copied and pasted material between different LyX documents that had
languages set to different languages (such as English, English (USA), etc) and
the words would be underlined in blue (IIRC). Much frustration and search
revealed that this was highlighting different languages within the document
compared to the global document language, which LyX then highlighted.

I imagine that LyX, or another package, is picking up those German words and
setting a language switch somewhere. I’ve successfully fixed my highlighting
issues by switching the default language to whatever the offenders language was
(seen by placing the cursor on the words, and seen at the bottom status bar),
then back to my desired language. This sounds exactly like what fixed your
issue, when you swapped languages. This global setting seems to overwrite all
local language settings once applied.

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Robert Susmilch]

I think this is a similar issue that I’ve encountered. 

I’ve copied and pasted material between different LyX documents that had 
languages set to different languages (such as English, English (USA), etc) and 
the words would be underlined in blue (IIRC). Much frustration and search 
revealed that this was highlighting different languages within the document 
compared to the global document language, which LyX then highlighted. 

I imagine that LyX, or another package, is picking up those German words and 
setting a language switch somewhere. I’ve successfully fixed my highlighting 
issues by switching the default language to whatever the offenders language was 
(seen by placing the cursor on the words, and seen at the bottom status bar), 
then back to my desired language. This sounds exactly like what fixed your 
issue, when you swapped languages. This global setting seems to overwrite all 
local language settings once applied.

-- 
Respectfully,

Robert Susmilch
===
The "gobbledygook" in this email is due to this email having been "signed" 
with PGP for security.

On Tuesday, January 05, 2016 08:53:00 PM Michael Berger wrote:
> Hi,
> Starting the original document with the global language settings
> activated the word "Seite" prints in the Nomenclature. After
> deactivating the global settings the correct result "page" is returned.
> After this first and only repair the correct result "page" is returned
> even when the global settings is reactivated and this is permanent.
> Anyway, this was the behavior in the 40 pages original document.
> 
> I reported this to Günter and he commented:
> In any case, you found a bug in LyX. The question is, whether it only
> appears in a very specific corner case or maybe is "self healing". If
> you can reproduce the problem with a minimal example, it would be nice
> if you could post it to the list or file a bug report at bugs.lyx.org.
> 
> The minimized example is attached.
> However, very much to my surprise the behavior is now slightly different
> in that one may now repeatedly toggle the global language settings ON or
> OFF and will accordingly get "Seite" or "page".
> 
> I also found the culprit right on the front page:
> Universität Leipzig
> Institut für Linguistik
> Beethovenstraße 15
> D-04107 Leipzig, Germany
> With these four lines  removed the problem is also gone. (but of course,
> they are needed)
> 
> So, what have we here and where is my mistake?
> 
> Cheers,
> Michael
> LyX Document


signature.asc
Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Guenter Milde]

Dear Michael,

On 2016-01-04, Michael Berger wrote:
> On 01/03/2016 03:20 PM, Guenter Milde wrote:
>> On 2016-01-03, Michael Berger wrote:

> the last thing I want is an academic discussion of this issue.

I understand and value this decision. However, my concern is to find out
if at the core of the issue is something we can improve in LyX. So, if
you have some time, it would be nice if you could produce a minimal
working example (i.e. a test document with the minimal requirements and
preamble code and content that still shows the problem).

>>> thanks for your reply. But as I explained in my subsequent e-mail dated
>>> 1. January 2016 I resolved the issue myself using trial and error after
>>> deactivating 'Set languages globally' in Tools < Preferences > Language
>>> settings.
>>> To me not quite logical on first glance, is it?
>> ...
>> I think that something is still set to German, it only no longer
>> affects the nomenclature...

> sure, it looks as if something is still set to German. However, I 
> checked all settings one more time (document, global settings, preamble, 
> openSuSE's interface language and installation, whatsoever) and there is 
> not the faintest indication that something is set to German.
> If a German setting should be hidden in / triggered by a Default setting 
> than IMHO it is still illogical.
> Of course, there are some German words in the document, but then there 
> are also Indonesian, Greek words etc. in it.

OK. If there are German words in the document AND you set the langugage
of the text part with German words to German, LyX will pass this setting
to LaTeX - loading babel or polyglossia in the preabmle with all
languages (explicitely) used in the document.
If global settings is on, the language settings are there for all packages
to share, otherwise they are given directly to the babel package.

Usually, global is fine, as this ensures that indices and similar are also
localized to the document language. However there may sometimes be an
undesired side-effect, if the document language is not supported by some
package while one of the secondary languages is...

Günter

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

On 01/03/2016 03:20 PM, Guenter Milde wrote:

On 2016-01-03, Michael Berger wrote:

...


thanks for your reply. But as I explained in my subsequent e-mail dated
1. January 2016 I resolved the issue myself using trial and error after
deactivating 'Set languages globally' in Tools < Preferences > Language
settings.
To me not quite logical on first glance, is it?

Not for me:

...


 my linguistic papers are all written in English, LyX's interface
 is also set to English just like everything else - nothing is set
 to German.

I think that something is still set to German, it only no longer affects the
nomenclature...

Günter

Hallo Günter,
sure, it looks as if something is still set to German. However, I 
checked all settings one more time (document, global settings, preamble, 
openSuSE's interface language and installation, whatsoever) and there is 
not the faintest indication that something is set to German.
If a German setting should be hidden in / triggered by a Default setting 
than IMHO it is still illogical.
Of course, there are some German words in the document, but then there 
are also Indonesian, Greek words etc. in it.


Anyway, my brilliant idea ;-) produced what is needed and the last thing 
I want is an academic discussion of this issue.


LyX is just great and so is the list.
Michael

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Guenter Milde]

On 2016-01-03, Michael Berger wrote:

...

> thanks for your reply. But as I explained in my subsequent e-mail dated 
> 1. January 2016 I resolved the issue myself using trial and error after 
> deactivating 'Set languages globally' in Tools < Preferences > Language 
> settings.
> To me not quite logical on first glance, is it?

Not for me:

...

>> my linguistic papers are all written in English, LyX's interface
>> is also set to English just like everything else - nothing is set
>> to German.

I think that something is still set to German, it only no longer affects the
nomenclature...

Günter

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

2015-12-27 16:44 GMT+01:00 Michael Berger :

> Dear friends of LyX,
> my linguistic papers are all written in English, LyX's interface is also
> set to English just like everything else - nothing is set to German.
> I am so much more puzzled when the nomenclature prints the German word for
> page, e.g.
>
> V2 requirement...is defined..., Seite 21
>
> while I wanted to see 'Page 21'.
>
> Can somebody explain why this happens and how it can be corrected?
>

Not without an example document.

Jürgen


>
> Thanks and have a Merry Christmas!
> Michael Berger
>

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Hi Jürgen,
thanks for your reply. But as I explained in my subsequent e-mail dated 
1. January 2016 I resolved the issue myself using trial and error after 
deactivating 'Set languages globally' in Tools < Preferences > Language 
settings.

To me not quite logical on first glance, is it?

Cheers and thanks,
Michael

On 01/03/2016 02:02 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:

2015-12-27 16:44 GMT+01:00 Michael Berger :

Dear friends of LyX,
my linguistic papers are all written in English, LyX's interface
is also set to English just like everything else - nothing is set
to German.
I am so much more puzzled when the nomenclature prints the German
word for page, e.g.

V2 requirement...is defined..., Seite 21

while I wanted to see 'Page 21'.

Can somebody explain why this happens and how it can be corrected?


Not without an example document.

Jürgen


Thanks and have a Merry Christmas!
Michael Berger

Re: Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

This was resolved by myself using trial and error:
I deactivated 'Set languages globally' in Tools > Preferences > Language 
Settings


Cheers,
Michael Berger

On 12/29/2015 02:23 PM, Michael Berger wrote:

Dear friends of LyX,
my linguistic papers are all written in English, LyX's interface is 
also set to English just like everything else - nothing is set to German.
I am so much more puzzled when the nomenclature prints the German word 
for page, e.g.


V2 requirement...is defined..., Seite 21

while I wanted to see 'Page 21'.

Can somebody explain why this happens and how it can be corrected?

Thanks and have a Merry Christmas!
Michael Berger

Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Dear friends of LyX,
my linguistic papers are all written in English, LyX's interface is also 
set to English just like everything else - nothing is set to German.
I am so much more puzzled when the nomenclature prints the German word 
for page, e.g.


V2 requirement...is defined..., Seite 21

while I wanted to see 'Page 21'.

Can somebody explain why this happens and how it can be corrected?

Thanks and have a Merry Christmas!
Michael Berger

Nomenclature prints 'Seite' instead of 'page'

[Michael Berger]

Dear friends of LyX,
my linguistic papers are all written in English, LyX's interface is also 
set to English just like everything else - nothing is set to German.
I am so much more puzzled when the nomenclature prints the German word 
for page, e.g.


V2 requirement...is defined..., Seite 21

while I wanted to see 'Page 21'.

Can somebody explain why this happens and how it can be corrected?

Thanks and have a Merry Christmas!
Michael Berger

Re: Problem with sorting nomenclature entries...

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 24.11.2015 um 19:11 schrieb Daisuke Koya:


I tried to create a minimum working example (attached). The problem is that I 
couldn't get the example to work... When I tried to compile the file, I saw the 
following error:

Error while exporting format: PDF (pdflatex)


The reason is that you use manual page margins. (I don't know why this 
breaks the compilation). One of the big advantages of the KOMA script 
classes is that is does the printspace calculation automatically for you 
depending on the fonts and font sizes you are using. It does this by 
following some common typesetting rules and ISO norms.


If you need some more space at a margin, e.g. for a book binding, you 
can adjust the printspace with the document class option BCOR. For 
example in the LyX UserGuide "BCOR7.5mm" is used n the document class 
options to get 7.5mm more space in case someone wants to print it out 
and form a booklet.


Attached is your corrected file where I simple used the default page 
margins.


regards Uwe


minimum_example.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Problem with sorting nomenclature entries...

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 18.11.2015 um 01:15 schrieb Daisuke Koya:


I am experiencing a problem with sorting nomenclature entries. I am trying to 
sort the entries, RMS, RMSE, and RMSE*, in this order. However, what I get 
instead is:

RMSE*
RMSE
RMS


I get the right sort order automatically, see the attached file.

Could you please provide a _minimal_ example file with the wrong sort order?

regards Uwe


nomencl sort order.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


nomencl sort order.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Problem with sorting nomenclature entries...

[Daisuke Koya]

Hello LyX experts,

I am experiencing a problem with sorting nomenclature entries. I am trying to 
sort the entries, RMS, RMSE, and RMSE*, in this order. However, what I get 
instead is:

RMSE*
RMSE
RMS

I have tried changing the sort order using the "Sort as:" field in the "LyX: 
nomenclature" window and the "noprefix" option, to no avail. When I used the 
"Sort as:" field, the entries were relegated to the bottom of the glossary list.

I have read the nomencl documentation (http://sarovar.org/projects/nomencl), 
but still could not figure out how to get the desired sort order. Is there any 
way I can get the following sort order in one sweep, perhaps by specifying an 
option?

RMS
RMSE
RMSE*

I apologize if I did not explain my problem well, as I have only minimal 
understanding of what I am doing. 

Thank you very much in advance if someone has a solution.

Daisuke

how to format entries in a nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

Dear Friends of LyX,
in my Lyx document I have terms and acronyms of the type V^0 , T^0 etc.
^
However, as an entries in the nomenclature they appear as V0, T0.
How can I format these "0"s in the nomenclatureas superscript?

Thanks,

Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

superscript characters of nomenclature entries

[Michael Berger]

Dear Friends of LyX,

I have some terms and acronyms ending with a superscript characterin my 
LyX document (KOMAscript article).
After > Insert > Nomenclature Entry they appear as ordinary characters, 
not as superscripts anymore.


How could this be prevented?

Thanks and regards


Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

Re: superscript characters of nomenclature entries

[Michael Berger]

On 10/09/2015 05:13 PM, David wrote:

Am 09.10.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Michael Berger:

Dear Friends of LyX,

I have some terms and acronyms ending with a superscript characterin my
LyX document (KOMAscript article).
After > Insert > Nomenclature Entry they appear as ordinary characters,
not as superscripts anymore.

How could this be prevented?

Thanks and regards

Not sure if I understand your question but if you'd like to insert a
superscript in either the symbol or description of a nomenclature entry,
you have to use the according Latex code. That is

V\textsuperscript{0}

if it's text or

$V^0$

if it's math.

Especially, you cannot copy and past formatted text from the Lyx editor
into the nomenclature entry dialog.

Regards,
David

Hi David,
yes, that is exactly what I meant and I expected something of using 
Latex but I did not know how and where.
For those facing similar situations: the code you furnished must be 
entered in the field "Symbol" of  Lyx's Nomenclature Dialogue.

And you guessed correctly: I did use copy and paste.

Thanks for resolving my problem,
Michael

Re: superscript characters of nomenclature entries

[David]

Am 09.10.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Michael Berger:
> Dear Friends of LyX,
> 
> I have some terms and acronyms ending with a superscript characterin my
> LyX document (KOMAscript article).
> After > Insert > Nomenclature Entry they appear as ordinary characters,
> not as superscripts anymore.
> 
> How could this be prevented?
> 
> Thanks and regards

Not sure if I understand your question but if you'd like to insert a
superscript in either the symbol or description of a nomenclature entry,
you have to use the according Latex code. That is

V\textsuperscript{0}

if it's text or

$V^0$

if it's math.

Especially, you cannot copy and past formatted text from the Lyx editor
into the nomenclature entry dialog.

Regards,
David

how to get rid of dots in nomenclature subgroup headings

[Michael Berger]

Dear Friends of LyX,
in the nomenclature of my document (KOMAScriptarticle) I use in the preamble

\usepackage{ifthen}

\renewcommand{\nomgroup}[1]{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{C}}{\item[\textbf{Symbols}]}{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{D}}{\item[\textbf{Numbers}]}{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{B}}{\item[\textbf{Abbreviations}]}{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{A}}{\item[\textbf{Definitions}]}{}

}% B matches Abbreviations

}% A matches Definitions

}% C matches Symbols

}% D matches Numbers

and in the LyX document \renewcommand{\nomlabel}[1]{#1\dotfill}

\renewcommand{\nomname}{Nomenclature of Linguistic Terms}

I not only get dots in each entry as desired but also undesired dots 
after the subgroup headings as per screen shot.

How to remove the dots after the subgroup headings?

Thanks and regards


Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

failure when trying to create a sectioned nomenclature

[Michael Berger]

Dear Friends of LyX,

in the preamble I entered:

\usepackage{ifthen}

\renewcommand{nomgroup}[1]{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{A}}{\item[\textbf{Roman Symbols}]}{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{G}}{\item[\textbf{Greek Symbols}]}{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{C}}{\item[\textbf{Abbreviations}]}{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{S}}{\item[\textbf{Subscripts}]}{%

\ifthenelse{\equal{#1}{Z}}{\item[\textbf{Mathematical Symbols}]}

{}

}%

}%

}%

}%

}%

This was rewarded  by the Latex with a long list of errors as per 
screen-shot.


Can someone advise what is wrong here?
PS: I already have one nomenclature in my document (KOMA Script Article) 
but removing it does not help.


Thanks and regards

Michael Berger, Dipl. Ing.
Im Borngrund 7a
D-35606 Solms
id...@online.de
Fon: +49 6442 706509
Fax: 032121247536
Linux member

Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one
Wolfgang


 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature
Datum:  Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:14:35 +0200
Von:Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de
An: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org



Am 22.07.2015 um 20:25 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Mittwoch 22 Juli 2015, 19:51:27 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

but now the emphasized words are all at the end of the nomenklature
list, after all the non-emphasized items

Check if the non-emphasized have some other markup (via the Source Preview).

Jürgen

I am including a minimal example.
I have followed Jürgens advice:

Use the Sort as field in the nomenclature dialog

result: the emphasized words are at the end of the glossary.

Without it the emphasized words are at the begin of the glossary.

Thanks for your attention

Wolfgang





Singularpoint-short.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:14:35 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 I am including a minimal example.

This is not a minimal example. I would need to delete many graphic insets for 
which the files are not available in order to compile, which I am not going to 
do.

Jürgen

Re: Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:31:52 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one

Solution: add noprefix to Document  Settings  Class  Class Options (see 
attachement).

Explanation: By default, nomencl prepends all entries with the prefix a, 
except if you define an individual prefix for an entry via the optional 
argument 
Sort as in LyX). So, in your document, you get the sort key aA, , aD, aE, 
aD, aZ, Drosophila, Helianthus annuus.
The noprefix option switches this automatism off. No prefixes are prepended 
automatically. The nomencl manual explains why this is so.

(I suppose the LyX User Guide should clarify this).

Jürgen

Singularpoint-short.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 23.07.2015 um 09:44 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:31:52 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one

Solution: add noprefix to Document  Settings  Class  Class Options (see
attachement).

Explanation: By default, nomencl prepends all entries with the prefix a,
except if you define an individual prefix for an entry via the optional argument
Sort as in LyX). So, in your document, you get the sort key aA, , aD, aE,
aD, aZ, Drosophila, Helianthus annuus.
The noprefix option switches this automatism off. No prefixes are prepended
automatically. The nomencl manual explains why this is so.

(I suppose the LyX User Guide should clarify this).

Jürgen
Thanks, Jürgen, for explaining it. Glad it works now. Will go through 
the User Guide and hope to understand the magic behind it.

Wolfgang

Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one
Wolfgang


 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature
Datum:  Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:14:35 +0200
Von:Wolfgang Engelmann engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de
An: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org



Am 22.07.2015 um 20:25 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Mittwoch 22 Juli 2015, 19:51:27 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

but now the emphasized words are all at the end of the nomenklature
list, after all the non-emphasized items

Check if the non-emphasized have some other markup (via the Source Preview).

Jürgen

I am including a minimal example.
I have followed Jürgens advice:

Use the Sort as field in the nomenclature dialog

result: the emphasized words are at the end of the glossary.

Without it the emphasized words are at the begin of the glossary.

Thanks for your attention

Wolfgang





Singularpoint-short.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:14:35 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 I am including a minimal example.

This is not a minimal example. I would need to delete many graphic insets for 
which the files are not available in order to compile, which I am not going to 
do.

Jürgen

Re: Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:31:52 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one

Solution: add noprefix to Document  Settings  Class  Class Options (see 
attachement).

Explanation: By default, nomencl prepends all entries with the prefix a, 
except if you define an individual prefix for an entry via the optional 
argument 
Sort as in LyX). So, in your document, you get the sort key aA, , aD, aE, 
aD, aZ, Drosophila, Helianthus annuus.
The noprefix option switches this automatism off. No prefixes are prepended 
automatically. The nomencl manual explains why this is so.

(I suppose the LyX User Guide should clarify this).

Jürgen

Singularpoint-short.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 23.07.2015 um 09:44 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:31:52 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one

Solution: add noprefix to Document  Settings  Class  Class Options (see
attachement).

Explanation: By default, nomencl prepends all entries with the prefix a,
except if you define an individual prefix for an entry via the optional argument
Sort as in LyX). So, in your document, you get the sort key aA, , aD, aE,
aD, aZ, Drosophila, Helianthus annuus.
The noprefix option switches this automatism off. No prefixes are prepended
automatically. The nomencl manual explains why this is so.

(I suppose the LyX User Guide should clarify this).

Jürgen
Thanks, Jürgen, for explaining it. Glad it works now. Will go through 
the User Guide and hope to understand the magic behind it.

Wolfgang

Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one
Wolfgang


 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature
Datum:  Thu, 23 Jul 2015 09:14:35 +0200
Von:Wolfgang Engelmann <engelm...@uni-tuebingen.de>
An: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org



Am 22.07.2015 um 20:25 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Mittwoch 22 Juli 2015, 19:51:27 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

but now the emphasized words are all at the end of the nomenklature
list, after all the non-emphasized items

Check if the non-emphasized have some other markup (via the Source Preview).

Jürgen

I am including a minimal example.
I have followed Jürgens advice:

Use the "Sort as" field in the nomenclature dialog

result: the emphasized words are at the end of the glossary.

Without it the emphasized words are at the begin of the glossary.

Thanks for your attention

Wolfgang





Singularpoint-short.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:14:35 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> I am including a minimal example.

This is not a minimal example. I would need to delete many graphic insets for 
which the files are not available in order to compile, which I am not going to 
do.

Jürgen

Re: Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:31:52 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one

Solution: add "noprefix" to Document > Settings > Class > Class Options (see 
attachement).

Explanation: By default, nomencl prepends all entries with the prefix "a", 
except if you define an individual prefix for an entry via the optional 
argument 
""Sort as" in LyX). So, in your document, you get the sort key aA, , aD, aE, 
aD, aZ, Drosophila, Helianthus annuus.
The "noprefix" option switches this automatism off. No prefixes are prepended 
automatically. The nomencl manual explains why this is so.

(I suppose the LyX User Guide should clarify this).

Jürgen

Singularpoint-short.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Fwd: Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 23.07.2015 um 09:44 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Donnerstag 23 Juli 2015, 09:31:52 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

Damn it, I got the wrong file. Sorry. Here the correct one

Solution: add "noprefix" to Document > Settings > Class > Class Options (see
attachement).

Explanation: By default, nomencl prepends all entries with the prefix "a",
except if you define an individual prefix for an entry via the optional argument
""Sort as" in LyX). So, in your document, you get the sort key aA, , aD, aE,
aD, aZ, Drosophila, Helianthus annuus.
The "noprefix" option switches this automatism off. No prefixes are prepended
automatically. The nomencl manual explains why this is so.

(I suppose the LyX User Guide should clarify this).

Jürgen
Thanks, Jürgen, for explaining it. Glad it works now. Will go through 
the User Guide and hope to understand the magic behind it.

Wolfgang

Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Jürgen Spitzmüller]

Am Mittwoch 22 Juli 2015, 19:51:27 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
 but now the emphasized words are all at the end of the nomenklature 
 list, after all the non-emphasized items

Check if the non-emphasized have some other markup (via the Source Preview).

Jürgen

Re: emphasized name not in alphabetic order in nomenclature

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 22.07.2015 um 19:29 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:

Am Dienstag 21 Juli 2015, 14:05:15 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:

in my nomenclature the
\emph{Drosophila}
is put at the begin of the list.
I would, however, like to have it under D
How do I achieve this?

Use the Sort as field in the nomenclature dialog. Also see sec. 6.7.2 of the
User Guide.

Jürgen


Wolfgang



Thanks, Jürgen,
but now the emphasized words are all at the end of the nomenklature 
list, after all the non-emphasized items

. I checked the example in the user guide and did it as shown there.
Wolfgang