Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Elver == Elver Loho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Elver Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise
Elver screenplay structure. Says that there is no table of contents.
Elver (And generating a table of contents doesn't work either.)

Elver There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the
Elver title page and scenes.

What textclass do you use? You could have one that recognizes
screenplay structure. 

JMarc


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/11/06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elver == Elver Loho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Elver Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise
Elver screenplay structure. Says that there is no table of contents.
Elver (And generating a table of contents doesn't work either.)

Elver There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the
Elver title page and scenes.

What textclass do you use? You could have one that recognizes
screenplay structure.


The document class I use is hollywood.


Elver


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Helge Hafting

Matej Cepl wrote:

Elver Loho wrote:
  

There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
page and scenes.



I would say, that it is a bug in the LaTeX document structure then -- just a
wild idea, cannot you contact developer of the LaTeX class to fix it?
  

As far as I know, the navigate menu is implemented in lyx, not latex.
It works by recognising document structure, i.e. sections and such.

I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if
they have no sectioning then the current navigate menu
is of little help. 


If there is anything other kind of headings that should logically
go into the navigate menu, then please file a bug report
at bugzilla.lyx.org describing the problem and what kind
of lyx paragraph types should be considered for navigation for
this kind of document.

Helge Hafting


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Helge As far as I know, the navigate menu is implemented in lyx,
Helge not latex. It works by recognising document structure, i.e.
Helge sections and such.

Helge I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if they have
Helge no sectioning then the current navigate menu is of little help.

I took a look at the layout, but I am not able to guess what could make
proper sectioning.

JMarc


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/11/06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Helge As far as I know, the navigate menu is implemented in lyx,
Helge not latex. It works by recognising document structure, i.e.
Helge sections and such.

Helge I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if they have
Helge no sectioning then the current navigate menu is of little help.

I took a look at the layout, but I am not able to guess what could make
proper sectioning.


I attached a short example screenplay. There are 3 kinds of scene
headers: INT (inside), EXT (outside), and generic Scene (for
writing things like EST or Establishing Shot and various less used
scene headers). It would be ideal if each of these would be treated as
a section header.


Elver


example.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Elver == Elver Loho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Elver Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise
Elver screenplay structure. Says that there is no table of contents.
Elver (And generating a table of contents doesn't work either.)

Elver There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the
Elver title page and scenes.

What textclass do you use? You could have one that recognizes
screenplay structure. 

JMarc


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/11/06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Elver == Elver Loho [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Elver Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise
Elver screenplay structure. Says that there is no table of contents.
Elver (And generating a table of contents doesn't work either.)

Elver There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the
Elver title page and scenes.

What textclass do you use? You could have one that recognizes
screenplay structure.


The document class I use is hollywood.


Elver


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Helge Hafting

Matej Cepl wrote:

Elver Loho wrote:
  

There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
page and scenes.



I would say, that it is a bug in the LaTeX document structure then -- just a
wild idea, cannot you contact developer of the LaTeX class to fix it?
  

As far as I know, the navigate menu is implemented in lyx, not latex.
It works by recognising document structure, i.e. sections and such.

I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if
they have no sectioning then the current navigate menu
is of little help. 


If there is anything other kind of headings that should logically
go into the navigate menu, then please file a bug report
at bugzilla.lyx.org describing the problem and what kind
of lyx paragraph types should be considered for navigation for
this kind of document.

Helge Hafting


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
 Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Helge As far as I know, the navigate menu is implemented in lyx,
Helge not latex. It works by recognising document structure, i.e.
Helge sections and such.

Helge I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if they have
Helge no sectioning then the current navigate menu is of little help.

I took a look at the layout, but I am not able to guess what could make
proper sectioning.

JMarc


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/11/06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Helge As far as I know, the navigate menu is implemented in lyx,
Helge not latex. It works by recognising document structure, i.e.
Helge sections and such.

Helge I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if they have
Helge no sectioning then the current navigate menu is of little help.

I took a look at the layout, but I am not able to guess what could make
proper sectioning.


I attached a short example screenplay. There are 3 kinds of scene
headers: INT (inside), EXT (outside), and generic Scene (for
writing things like EST or Establishing Shot and various less used
scene headers). It would be ideal if each of these would be treated as
a section header.


Elver


example.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Elver" == Elver Loho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Elver> Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise
Elver> screenplay structure. Says that there is no table of contents.
Elver> (And generating a table of contents doesn't work either.)

Elver> There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the
Elver> title page and scenes.

What textclass do you use? You could have one that recognizes
screenplay structure. 

JMarc


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/11/06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Elver" == Elver Loho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Elver> Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise
Elver> screenplay structure. Says that there is no table of contents.
Elver> (And generating a table of contents doesn't work either.)

Elver> There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the
Elver> title page and scenes.

What textclass do you use? You could have one that recognizes
screenplay structure.


The document class I use is "hollywood".


Elver


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Helge Hafting

Matej Cepl wrote:

Elver Loho wrote:
  

There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
page and scenes.



I would say, that it is a bug in the LaTeX document structure then -- just a
wild idea, cannot you contact developer of the LaTeX class to fix it?
  

As far as I know, the "navigate" menu is implemented in lyx, not latex.
It works by recognising document structure, i.e. sections and such.

I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if
they have no sectioning then the current navigate menu
is of little help. 


If there is anything other kind of headings that should logically
go into the navigate menu, then please file a bug report
at bugzilla.lyx.org describing the problem and what kind
of lyx paragraph types should be considered for navigation for
this kind of document.

Helge Hafting


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Helge" == Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Helge> As far as I know, the "navigate" menu is implemented in lyx,
Helge> not latex. It works by recognising document structure, i.e.
Helge> sections and such.

Helge> I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if they have
Helge> no sectioning then the current navigate menu is of little help.

I took a look at the layout, but I am not able to guess what could make
proper sectioning.

JMarc


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-11 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/11/06, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Helge" == Helge Hafting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Helge> As far as I know, the "navigate" menu is implemented in lyx,
Helge> not latex. It works by recognising document structure, i.e.
Helge> sections and such.

Helge> I don't know about hollywood class documents, but if they have
Helge> no sectioning then the current navigate menu is of little help.

I took a look at the layout, but I am not able to guess what could make
proper sectioning.


I attached a short example screenplay. There are 3 kinds of scene
headers: "INT" (inside), "EXT" (outside), and generic "Scene" (for
writing things like EST or Establishing Shot and various less used
scene headers). It would be ideal if each of these would be treated as
a section header.


Elver


example.lyx
Description: application/lyx


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/9/06, Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Elver Loho wrote:

 I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?

I am not sure about screenplays and their structure, but about conveniently
named menu Navigate? Does it work?


Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise screenplay
structure. Says that there is no table of contents. (And generating a
table of contents doesn't work either.)

There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
page and scenes.


Elver


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Elver Loho wrote:

I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?


I avoid large files ... because I avoid doing the amount of work needed 
to generate one.  :-)


I've got a 40-some page screenplay and working with it is a bit of a
pain. It would be great if I could collapse scenes into just the scene
header (int/ext) when not working directly with them. Sort of like
most code editors allow.



This may be clunky, but (assuming you have LyX 1.4.x) you could put each 
scene in a separate branch.  Go to Document-Settings-Branches, type 
Scene_1 (or whatever label you wish, but no spaces allowed) into the 
field labeled New:, and click Add.  Repeat ad nauseum.  Then highlight 
each scene and click (De)activate.  (I'm assuming that you want all 
scenes printed when you display/print/export the document.)  You can 
optionally assign background colors to their boxes.  Click OK when done.


Now position the cursor where you want to enter a scene and click 
Insert-Branch-Scene_1 (or whichever scene label applies). Type the 
scene in the branch box.  If you already have it typed, highlight it and 
then click Insert-Branch-Scene_1, and the highlighted text will be 
moved into the branch box.


Branch boxes can be collapsed and expanded by clicking on them.  When 
collapsed, the first few characters are displayed, so it might be 
helpful if your scenes started with meaningful labels.


/Paul



Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Matej Cepl
Elver Loho wrote:
 There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
 page and scenes.

I would say, that it is a bug in the LaTeX document structure then -- just a
wild idea, cannot you contact developer of the LaTeX class to fix it?

Matěj

-- 
http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 
There are lies, damned lies, and quotes from literary icons.




Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/9/06, Matej Cepl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Elver Loho wrote:

 I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?

I am not sure about screenplays and their structure, but about conveniently
named menu Navigate? Does it work?


Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise screenplay
structure. Says that there is no table of contents. (And generating a
table of contents doesn't work either.)

There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
page and scenes.


Elver


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Elver Loho wrote:

I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?


I avoid large files ... because I avoid doing the amount of work needed 
to generate one.  :-)


I've got a 40-some page screenplay and working with it is a bit of a
pain. It would be great if I could collapse scenes into just the scene
header (int/ext) when not working directly with them. Sort of like
most code editors allow.



This may be clunky, but (assuming you have LyX 1.4.x) you could put each 
scene in a separate branch.  Go to Document-Settings-Branches, type 
Scene_1 (or whatever label you wish, but no spaces allowed) into the 
field labeled New:, and click Add.  Repeat ad nauseum.  Then highlight 
each scene and click (De)activate.  (I'm assuming that you want all 
scenes printed when you display/print/export the document.)  You can 
optionally assign background colors to their boxes.  Click OK when done.


Now position the cursor where you want to enter a scene and click 
Insert-Branch-Scene_1 (or whichever scene label applies). Type the 
scene in the branch box.  If you already have it typed, highlight it and 
then click Insert-Branch-Scene_1, and the highlighted text will be 
moved into the branch box.


Branch boxes can be collapsed and expanded by clicking on them.  When 
collapsed, the first few characters are displayed, so it might be 
helpful if your scenes started with meaningful labels.


/Paul



Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Matej Cepl
Elver Loho wrote:
 There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
 page and scenes.

I would say, that it is a bug in the LaTeX document structure then -- just a
wild idea, cannot you contact developer of the LaTeX class to fix it?

Matěj

-- 
http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 
There are lies, damned lies, and quotes from literary icons.




Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Elver Loho

On 9/9/06, Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Elver Loho wrote:

> I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?

I am not sure about screenplays and their structure, but about conveniently
named menu Navigate? Does it work?


Unfortunately the Navigation system does not recognise screenplay
structure. Says that there is no table of contents. (And generating a
table of contents doesn't work either.)

There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
page and scenes.


Elver


Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Elver Loho wrote:

I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?


I avoid large files ... because I avoid doing the amount of work needed 
to generate one.  :-)


I've got a 40-some page screenplay and working with it is a bit of a
pain. It would be great if I could collapse scenes into just the scene
header (int/ext) when not working directly with them. Sort of like
most code editors allow.



This may be clunky, but (assuming you have LyX 1.4.x) you could put each 
scene in a separate branch.  Go to Document->Settings->Branches, type 
"Scene_1" (or whatever label you wish, but no spaces allowed) into the 
field labeled "New:", and click Add.  Repeat ad nauseum.  Then highlight 
each scene and click (De)activate.  (I'm assuming that you want all 
scenes printed when you display/print/export the document.)  You can 
optionally assign background colors to their boxes.  Click OK when done.


Now position the cursor where you want to enter a scene and click 
Insert->Branch->Scene_1 (or whichever scene label applies). Type the 
scene in the branch box.  If you already have it typed, highlight it and 
then click Insert->Branch->Scene_1, and the highlighted text will be 
moved into the branch box.


Branch boxes can be collapsed and expanded by clicking on them.  When 
collapsed, the first few characters are displayed, so it might be 
helpful if your scenes started with meaningful labels.


/Paul



Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-09 Thread Matej Cepl
Elver Loho wrote:
> There are no sections and chapters in this document. Just the title
> page and scenes.

I would say, that it is a bug in the LaTeX document structure then -- just a
wild idea, cannot you contact developer of the LaTeX class to fix it?

Matěj

-- 
http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 
There are lies, damned lies, and quotes from literary icons.




Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Elver Loho wrote:

 I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?

I am not sure about screenplays and their structure, but about conveniently
named menu Navigate? Does it work?

Matěj

-- 
http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 
Economics is the only discipline where two people can win a Nobel
Prize for saying exactly the opposite thing!
-- Eamonn Butler of Adam Smith Institute
   on Nobel Prize awards for year 2001




Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Elver Loho wrote:

 I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?

I am not sure about screenplays and their structure, but about conveniently
named menu Navigate? Does it work?

Matěj

-- 
http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 
Economics is the only discipline where two people can win a Nobel
Prize for saying exactly the opposite thing!
-- Eamonn Butler of Adam Smith Institute
   on Nobel Prize awards for year 2001




Re: Navigating in a big document

2006-09-08 Thread Matej Cepl
Elver Loho wrote:

> I was wondering... How do you guys navigate around in large files?

I am not sure about screenplays and their structure, but about conveniently
named menu Navigate? Does it work?

Matěj

-- 
http://matej.ceplovi.cz/blog/
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
 
Economics is the only discipline where two people can win a Nobel
Prize for saying exactly the opposite thing!
-- Eamonn Butler of Adam Smith Institute
   on Nobel Prize awards for year 2001