Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

The following script:

#!/bin/bash
clear \
  && rm -f LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg \
  && echo "UCT:" \
  && time ncftpget
ftp://mirror.ufs.ac.za/applications/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
\
  && rm -f LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg \
  && echo "LYX:" \
  && time ncftpget
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
\
  && echo "SPEEDTEST:" \
  && time wget -O /dev/null
http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test10.zip

with the output slightly pruned.


Home 4G from the dominant provider

UCT:
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg:  129.38 MB2.38 MB/s
real0m55.401s

LYX:
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg:  129.38 MB  224.35 kB/s
real9m56.664s

SPEEDTEST:
http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test10.zip
(680 KB/s)
real0m31.525s


Leased line from the emerging competitor

UCT:
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg:  129.38 MB  217.69 kB/s
real10m11.435s

LYX:
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg:  129.38 MB   65.77 kB/s
real33m43.165s

SPEEDTEST:
http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test10.zip
(227 KB/s)
real0m51.117s




On 2018-02-20 16:15 , Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
>> I'll repeat this together with the speed test on the 12" tonight so you
>> can see it for comparison.
> 
> Interesting would be if you try to download from south african mirror -
> what would be the difference of your speed.
> ftp://mirror.ufs.ac.za/applications/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> 
> Pavel
> 

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Cris Fuhrman]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
>

I'm using Chrome on Windows at my university which has a pretty fast
connexion normally. However, it's telling me 40 minutes left (pretty
consistent time, not going to wait for it to finish, however).


> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
>

Montreal, Quebec, Canada.


> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
>

ETSMTL.CA is the domain. It's my university.


>
> Both good and bad answers matter, we want to know whether this is sporadic
> or widespread problem.
>
> In case your download of the link above is more than couple seconds, it
> would
> be useful if you also reported whether some of the mirror servers listed at
> http://www.lyx.org/Download#toc11 which are closer to your geographical
> location perform better.
>

The mirror at ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/ indicates
4 minutes (consistently, but the other download is ongoing).

Cheers!

C. Fuhrman

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[el]

Ok,

will do both and the speed test tonight.

Can perhaps even get the 4G from my landline provider :-)-O

el

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On 20 Feb 2018, 16:23 +0200, Pavel Sanda , wrote:
> Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> > I'll repeat this together with the speed test on the 12" tonight so you
> > can see it for comparison.
>
> Interesting would be if you try to download from south african mirror -
> what would be the difference of your speed.
> ftp://mirror.ufs.ac.za/applications/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
>
> Pavel

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> $ time wget 
> 'ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg'
>
>
> Am 16.02.2018 um 21:32 schrieb Pavel Sanda:
>> Pavel Sanda wrote:
>>> Ok, updating
>> US(CA); 1.88MB/s;  academic network; M: UCSD(89.4MB/s), PL(6.83M/s), 
>> SA(8.85M/s), GR (6.36M/s)
>> US(OR); 808KB/s;   local ISP;M: UCSD(2MB/s)
>> US(FL); 1.33MB/s;  residential LAN
>> US(TX); 20-100KB/s; hotel wifi;  M: UCSD(2.89MB/s), SA(1.42MB/s)(!), 
>> GR(163KB/s)
>> US(MI); 1.14MB/s;  residential cable;M: UCSD(11.6MB/s)
>> Ca(Qe): 242 KB/s;  academic network; M: UCSD(393 KB/s)
>> EU(Cz); 44.6MB/s;  academic network; M: UCSD(16.3MB/s), 
>> PL(25.5MB/s), 
>> SA(14.3MB/s), GR(12.0MB/s)
>> EU(Pt); 40.8MB/s;  academic network
>> EU(Pt); 4.26MB/s;  local ISP;
>> EU(De); 414KB/s;   local ISP;
>>
>>
> Is this the latest poll result?

Yes, execpt of Stephan's report (Berlin).

> could I ask the members of the Linux User Group Tuebingen to try the poll? 
> One reason is, that my result (EU(DE) 441kB/s) is rather annoying. I would 
> like to see the differences in and around Tuebingen city.

It's really your call. I am not worried about EU, so that's more for your 
curiosity...

> What are the factors affecting the download speed?

What time of the day, what exact provider you are using (typically academic
networks have good interconnectivity), at higher speeds even your wiring,
peering issues around our ftp server as reported by JMarc...

Some of it can be eliminated if you try different mirrors.

Pavel

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> I'll repeat this together with the speed test on the 12" tonight so you
> can see it for comparison.

Interesting would be if you try to download from south african mirror -
what would be the difference of your speed.
ftp://mirror.ufs.ac.za/applications/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg

Pavel

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

Pavel,

I live in Windhoek, Namibia and thought I also run a standard speed test
for comparison


This is via my leased line at home from the up and coming competitor,
which is capped at 384 KBps (ethernet from the router to a MacPro)

time ncftpget
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg

LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg: 129.38 MB   83.84 kB/s

real26m28.041s
user0m1.000s
sys 0m5.219s

time wget -O /dev/null
http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test10.zip
[...]
2018-02-20 11:24:32 (206 KB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [11536384/11536384]


real0m55.357s
user0m0.088s
sys 0m0.243s




And this from my leased line at my practice, same speed and provider
(competitor) ((ethernet from the router to an iMac 5K)

time ncftpget
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg

LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg: 129.38 MB   87.23 kB/s

real25m25.158s
user0m1.049s
sys 0m7.814s

time wget -O /dev/null
http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test10.zip
[...]
2018-02-20 11:24:47 (183 KB/s) - '/dev/null' saved [11536384/11536384]


real1m2.200s
user0m0.118s
sys 0m0.251s


And This is via a MiFi with 4G card to a new 12" MacBook from the
dominant provider:

time ncftpget
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg: 129.38 MB  217.17 kB/s

real 10m17.255s
user 0m1.115s
sys 0m6.876s

I'll repeat this together with the speed test on the 12" tonight so you
can see it for comparison.


I have no issues wit he download speed from LyX.

Never had.

Patience is a virtue :-)-O


el


On 16/02/2018 18:20, Pavel Sanda wrote:
[...]
> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> and report:
> 
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
[...]

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

$ time wget 
'ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg'


Am 16.02.2018 um 21:32 schrieb Pavel Sanda:

Pavel Sanda wrote:

Ok, updating

US(CA); 1.88MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(89.4MB/s), PL(6.83M/s), 
SA(8.85M/s), GR (6.36M/s)
US(OR); 808KB/s;   local ISP;   M: UCSD(2MB/s)
US(FL); 1.33MB/s;  residential LAN
US(TX); 20-100KB/s; hotel wifi; M: UCSD(2.89MB/s), SA(1.42MB/s)(!), 
GR(163KB/s)
US(MI); 1.14MB/s;  residential cable;   M: UCSD(11.6MB/s)
Ca(Qe): 242 KB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(393 KB/s)
EU(Cz); 44.6MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(16.3MB/s), PL(25.5MB/s), 
SA(14.3MB/s), GR(12.0MB/s)
EU(Pt); 40.8MB/s;  academic network
EU(Pt); 4.26MB/s;  local ISP;
EU(De); 414KB/s;   local ISP;



Is this the latest poll result?
could I ask the members of the Linux User Group Tuebingen to try the 
poll? One reason is, that my result (EU(DE) 441kB/s) is rather annoying. 
I would like to see the differences in and around Tuebingen city.

What are the factors affecting the download speed?
Wolfgang

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Stephan Witt]

Am 16.02.2018 um 17:20 schrieb Pavel Sanda :
> 
> Hello lyx users,
> 
> it has been brought to our(=developers) attention that downloading speed of 
> lyx
> installers might become too slow on various places over the globe. The size of
> installers was steadily growing past years and 220 MB might indeed pose 
> problem
> in case users end up with connections speeds about ~10kbs...
> 
> That's why this small poll - we would be intersted to know how bad the 
> situation
> generally is -- especially outside of Europe.
> 
> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> and report:
> 
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
> 
> Both good and bad answers matter, we want to know whether this is sporadic
> or widespread problem.
> 
> In case your download of the link above is more than couple seconds, it would
> be useful if you also reported whether some of the mirror servers listed at
> http://www.lyx.org/Download#toc11 which are closer to your geographical
> location perform better.
> 
> Thanks for your time,
> Pavel

Hi Pavel,

this is the speed via Home-WLAN (ISP Vodafone-Berlin):

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg 129,38M   495KB/sin 3m 47s
2018-02-17 22:27:15 (584 KB/s) - »LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg« 
gespeichert [135668328]

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg 129,38M  3,01MB/sin 45s 
2018-02-17 22:28:45 (2,86 MB/s) - »LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg« 
gespeichert [135668328]

this is the speed at office (LAN) (ISP Vodafone-Berlin):

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
135.668.328  776K/s   in 2m 23s  
2018-02-17 22:30:35 (929 KB/s) - »»LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg«« 
gespeichert [135668328]

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
Länge: 135668328 (129M) (unmaßgeblich)
135.668.328 11,2M/s   in 20s 
2018-02-17 22:27:42 (6,40 MB/s) - »»LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg«« 
gespeichert [135668328]

Stephan

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Ok, updating

US(CA); 1.88MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(89.4MB/s), PL(6.83M/s), 
SA(8.85M/s), GR (6.36M/s)
US(OR); 808KB/s;   local ISP;   M: UCSD(2MB/s)
US(FL); 1.33MB/s;  residential LAN;
US(TX); 20-100KB/s; hotel wifi; M: UCSD(2.89MB/s), SA(1.42MB/s)(!), 
GR(163KB/s)
US(MI); 1.14MB/s;  residential cable;   M: UCSD(11.6MB/s)
US(NM); 7.23MB/s;  business network;M: UCSD(23.8MB/s)
US(NM): 90 KB/s;   residential ISP; M: UCSD(9.5MB/s)
Ca(Qe): 242 KB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(393 KB/s)
NZ(Du); 800 kB/s;  fibre network;   M: UCSD(1.4 MB/s), PL(650 kB/s), SA(540 
kB/s), GR(780 kB/s)
Tr; 2-3MB/s;   Turknet, local ISP;
EU(Cz); 44.6MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(16.3MB/s), PL(25.5MB/s), 
SA(14.3MB/s), GR(12.0MB/s)
EU(Pt); 40.8MB/s;  academic network;
EU(Pt); 4.26MB/s;  local ISP;
EU(De); 414KB/s;   local ISP;

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Andrew Parsloe]

On 17/02/2018 5:20 a.m., Pavel Sanda wrote:

Hello lyx users,

it has been brought to our(=developers) attention that downloading speed of lyx
installers might become too slow on various places over the globe. The size of
installers was steadily growing past years and 220 MB might indeed pose problem
in case users end up with connections speeds about ~10kbs...

That's why this small poll - we would be intersted to know how bad the situation
generally is -- especially outside of Europe.

If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
and report:

1. time to download (/ download speed)
2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
(you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)

Both good and bad answers matter, we want to know whether this is sporadic
or widespread problem.

In case your download of the link above is more than couple seconds, it would
be useful if you also reported whether some of the mirror servers listed at
http://www.lyx.org/Download#toc11 which are closer to your geographical
location perform better.

Thanks for your time,
Pavel
Home computer in Dunedin, southern New Zealand. Linked to fibre network 
by ethernet cable rather than wifi. Windows 7. I've simply read the 
download speeds from Firefox. They fluctuate around the figure I've 
given (apart from UCSD which was rock steady).

ftp.lyx.org  850 kB/s (morning); 800 kB/s (evening)
UCSD  1.4 MB/s
Greece  780 kB/s
Poland  650 kB/s
SA  540 kB/s
Italy  couldn't connect

Andrew

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Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Joel Kulesza]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> Hello lyx users,
>
> it has been brought to our(=developers) attention that downloading speed
> of lyx
> installers might become too slow on various places over the globe. The
> size of
> installers was steadily growing past years and 220 MB might indeed pose
> problem
> in case users end up with connections speeds about ~10kbs...
>
> That's why this small poll - we would be intersted to know how bad the
> situation
> generally is -- especially outside of Europe.
>
> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3
> .0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> and report:
>
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
>
> Both good and bad answers matter, we want to know whether this is sporadic
> or widespread problem.
>


US(NM): 7.23MB/s; business network; UCSD mirror: 23.8MB/s

No logs, but the speeds speak for themselves.

US(NM): 90 KB/s (24 minutes to download); residential ISP; UCSD mirror:
9.5MB/s (16 seconds to download)

As an aside, and as one of the likely instigators of this poll, the slow
speeds I've seen (as slow as 10s of kbps) have been sporadic, albeit
observed in both the US and Asia from ftp.lyx.org.  Note that both of the
residential ISP wgets above were made from the same computer, one directly
after the next.  Note further that the ISP is much derided Comcast
Xfinity...

Full info from my residential wgets:

9995 jkulesza@tempest[/tmp]> time wget
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
--2018-02-16 18:43:20--
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
   => ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg’
Resolving ftp.lyx.org (ftp.lyx.org)... 195.83.118.1
Connecting to ftp.lyx.org (ftp.lyx.org)|195.83.118.1|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2 ...
done.
==> SIZE LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... 135668328
==> PASV ... done.==> RETR LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... done.
Length: 135668328 (129M) (unauthoritative)

LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
 
100%[=>]
129.38M  89.6KB/sin 24m 4s

2018-02-16 19:07:27 (91.7 KB/s) - ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg’ saved
[135668328]


real 24m7.349s
user 0m0.713s
sys 0m1.833s
9995 jkulesza@tempest[/tmp]> time wget
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
--2018-02-16 19:08:04--
ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
   => ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg.1’
Resolving ftp.ucsd.edu (ftp.ucsd.edu)... 2607:f720:300:202::12, 132.239.1.12
Connecting to ftp.ucsd.edu (ftp.ucsd.edu)|2607:f720:300:202::12|:21...
connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /LyX/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2 ... done.
==> SIZE LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... 135668328
==> EPSV ... done.==> RETR LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... done.
Length: 135668328 (129M) (unauthoritative)

LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg.1
 
100%[=>]
129.38M  9.55MB/sin 16s

2018-02-16 19:08:21 (8.11 MB/s) - ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg.1’
saved [135668328]


real 0m16.831s
user 0m0.114s
sys 0m0.553s

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Charlie]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:20:53 +0100
Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> and report:
> 
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)

Sorry, forgot to time it but it was downloaded fairly quickly.

Due to our isolated area am on satellite internet which is pretend
broadband.

Downloaded from Australia from home.

Speeds were from a start of 1.4 MB, sped up and toward the end of the
download reached 2.7 MB, but mainly around the 1.6 - 1.8 MB speed.

Tried it again after a few minutes to time it. Only allowed a few
minutes to do that and the speed never reached higher than 746 KB so
killed it.

Hope that helps.
Charlie
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Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Ok, updating

US(CA); 1.88MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(89.4MB/s), PL(6.83M/s), 
SA(8.85M/s), GR (6.36M/s)
US(OR); 808KB/s;   local ISP;   M: UCSD(2MB/s)
US(FL); 1.33MB/s;  residential LAN
US(TX); 20-100KB/s; hotel wifi; M: UCSD(2.89MB/s), SA(1.42MB/s)(!), 
GR(163KB/s)
US(MI); 1.14MB/s;  residential cable;   M: UCSD(11.6MB/s)
Ca(Qe): 242 KB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(393 KB/s)
EU(Cz); 44.6MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(16.3MB/s), PL(25.5MB/s), 
SA(14.3MB/s), GR(12.0MB/s)
EU(Pt); 40.8MB/s;  academic network
EU(Pt); 4.26MB/s;  local ISP;
EU(De); 414KB/s;   local ISP;

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[José Abílio Matos]

On Friday, 16 February 2018 16.20.53 WET Pavel Sanda wrote:
> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64
> -cocoa.dmg and report:
> 
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)

Hi Pavel,
I get from the main ftp site:

from home:4.26MB/sin 31s
from university network:  40.8MB/sin 4.4s

I can test other sites but for this test this should be more than enough. :-)

Regards,
-- 
José Abílio

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 16/02/2018 à 17:20, Pavel Sanda a écrit :

Hello lyx users,

it has been brought to our(=developers) attention that downloading speed of lyx
installers might become too slow on various places over the globe. The size of
installers was steadily growing past years and 220 MB might indeed pose problem
in case users end up with connections speeds about ~10kbs...

That's why this small poll - we would be intersted to know how bad the situation
generally is -- especially outside of Europe.


FWIW, there may be peering problems these days between the French 
academic network Renater and some parts of the world. I see it at Inria 
and ftp.lyx.org happens to be hosted at lip6.fr, which is on this same 
network.

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Wolfgang Engelmann]

Am 16.02.2018 um 17:20 schrieb Pavel Sanda:

Hello lyx users,

it has been brought to our(=developers) attention that downloading speed of lyx
installers might become too slow on various places over the globe. The size of
installers was steadily growing past years and 220 MB might indeed pose problem
in case users end up with connections speeds about ~10kbs...

That's why this small poll - we would be intersted to know how bad the situation
generally is -- especially outside of Europe.

If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
and report:

1. time to download (/ download speed)
2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
(you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)

Both good and bad answers matter, we want to know whether this is sporadic
or widespread problem.

In case your download of the link above is more than couple seconds, it would
be useful if you also reported whether some of the mirror servers listed at
http://www.lyx.org/Download#toc11 which are closer to your geographical
location perform better.

Thanks for your time,
Pavel

This is from countryside near Tuebingen, Germany, EU

129,38M   414KB/s    in 4m 24s

real    4m24,550s
user    0m0,784s
sys 0m4,844s

Wolfgang

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Ok, updating

US(CA); 1.88MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(89.4MB/s), PL(6.83M/s), 
SA(8.85M/s), GR (6.36M/s)
US(OR); 808KB/s;   local ISP;   M: UCSD(2MB/s)
US(FL); 1.33MB/s;  residential LAN
US(TX); 20-100KB/s; hotel wifi; M: UCSD(2.89MB/s), SA(1.42MB/s)(!), 
GR(163KB/s)
Ca(Qe): 242 KB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(393 KB/s)
EU(Cz); 44.6MB/s;  academic network;M: UCSD(16.3MB/s), PL(25.5MB/s), 
SA(14.3MB/s), GR(12.0MB/s)

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Richard Heck wrote:
> how it worked out). The UCSD mirror gave me 2.89MB/s. Just for kicks, I
> tried the South Africa mirror, as well. That gave me an average 1.42MB/s
> (and was over 2MB/s at times). Greece gave me 163KB/s, though it was
> often higher than that.

The South African mirror performance compared to Europe is stunning :)
Perhaps lot of traffic betwen EU<->US right now.

Pavel

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Pavel Sanda wrote:


There's little unit confusion here, I usually run wget which works in
K(=*1024)/M/bytes (ironically it does not report the 'byte' part). Anyway
the reported slowness of wget might be also due to ncftp really measuring
in kB meaning 1000*bit, not byte...


Pavel,

  I was reporting in bits per second.

  Anyway, here's the wget report:

$ wget 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
--2018-02-16 10:01:35--  
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
   => ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg.2’
Resolving ftp.lyx.org... 195.83.118.1
Connecting to ftp.lyx.org|195.83.118.1|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2 ... done.
==> SIZE LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... 135668328
==> PASV ... done.==> RETR LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... done.
Length: 135668328 (129M) (unauthoritative)

LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x 100%[===>] 129.38M   808KB/sin 3m 20s

2018-02-16 10:04:58 (664 KB/s) - ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg.2’ saved 
[135668328]

Rich

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 05:01:18PM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > > 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> > > 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> > > 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> > > (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
> > 
> > To start the table with reference times where my fingers reach + Rich's:

Ok, updating

US(CA); 1.88MB/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 89.4MB/s 
US(OR); 454.19 kB/s; local ISP; UCSD mirror: 2MB/sec
US(FL); 1.33MB/s; residential LAN
US(TX); 20-100KB/s; hotel wifi; UCSD mirror 2.89MB/s, South Africa 1.42MB/s 
(!!), Greece (163KB/s)
Ca(Quebec): 242 KB/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 393 KB/s
EU(Cz); 44.6MB/s; academic network

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Scott Kostyshak wrote:


US(Or); 454.19 kB/s; local ISP; UCSD mirror: 2Mb/sec



US(FL); 1.33MB/s; residential LAN


  Let me change local ISP to office LAN -> ISP -> backbone. Still slow. :-)

Rich

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Richard Heck]

On 02/16/2018 11:20 AM, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Hello lyx users,
>
> it has been brought to our(=developers) attention that downloading speed of 
> lyx
> installers might become too slow on various places over the globe. The size of
> installers was steadily growing past years and 220 MB might indeed pose 
> problem
> in case users end up with connections speeds about ~10kbs...
>
> That's why this small poll - we would be intersted to know how bad the 
> situation
> generally is -- especially outside of Europe.
>
> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> and report:
>
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
>
> Both good and bad answers matter, we want to know whether this is sporadic
> or widespread problem.
>
> In case your download of the link above is more than couple seconds, it would
> be useful if you also reported whether some of the mirror servers listed at
> http://www.lyx.org/Download#toc11 which are closer to your geographical
> location perform better.

Hi, Pavel,

I am in a hotel in Austin TX at the moment, so using the hotel's wifi.
Downloading from ftp.lyx.org, I'm seeing speeds fluctuating between
about 20KB/s and 100KB/s (so, no, I didn't wait the whole hour to see
how it worked out). The UCSD mirror gave me 2.89MB/s. Just for kicks, I
tried the South Africa mirror, as well. That gave me an average 1.42MB/s
(and was over 2MB/s at times). Greece gave me 163KB/s, though it was
often higher than that.

Richard

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 05:39:42PM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 05:28:39PM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > 
> > > For the rest of reports maybe better if we stick to wget measurements if 
> > > you have them
> > > on your computers. i.e.:
> > > wget 
> > > ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> > 
> > Just for reference, my results were from that same wget command.
> 
> Does your wget command really shows 'MB' or just 'M'? P

Here is the full command and output that I got:

$ time wget 
'ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg'
   
--2018-02-16 12:17:54--  
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
   => ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg’
Resolving ftp.lyx.org (ftp.lyx.org)... 195.83.118.1
Connecting to ftp.lyx.org (ftp.lyx.org)|195.83.118.1|:21... connected.
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> SYST ... done.==> PWD ... done.
==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD (1) /pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2 ... done.
==> SIZE LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... 135668328
==> PASV ... done.==> RETR LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg ... done.
Length: 135668328 (129M) (unauthoritative)

LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg 
100%[==>] 
129.38M  1.33MB/sin 1m 48s  

2018-02-16 12:19:44 (1.20 MB/s) - ‘LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg’ saved 
[135668328]


real1m49.965s
user0m0.546s
sys 0m3.068s
$

Scott


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Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 05:28:39PM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> 
> > For the rest of reports maybe better if we stick to wget measurements if 
> > you have them
> > on your computers. i.e.:
> > wget 
> > ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
> 
> Just for reference, my results were from that same wget command.

Does your wget command really shows 'MB' or just 'M'? P

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 05:28:39PM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:

> For the rest of reports maybe better if we stick to wget measurements if you 
> have them
> on your computers. i.e.:
> wget 
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg

Just for reference, my results were from that same wget command.

Scott


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Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Rich Shepard wrote:
>   Looks to me like the pipe between the server and the tester's ISP (which
>   would be the universtiy/college in two cases) has the largest influence,
>   not the connection between user and ISP. It will be interesting to see the
>   rest of the results.

I think too.

>   Perhaps responders could report their nominal download speeds and the type
>   of connection they have to their upstream provider. That would be
>   interesting, too.

Thay can if they wish, but the bad cases (less than hundreds of kb/s)
will be responsibility of provider<-ftp.lyx.org connection I believe.

I am mostly interested about results from Asia/South America though, that's
where the worst reports came from (5kb/s)...

Pavel

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Pavel Sanda wrote:
>
>> Hello lyx users,
>> If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
>> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
>> and report:
>
> Pavel,
>
>   $ ncftpget 
> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
>   ETA:   6:28  129.38 MB  454.19 kB/s
>
>   I am in Troutdale, Oregon, the upper left corner of the US. I have a 
> fiber
> connnection to my ISP, 15Mbps down/5Mbps up. That's equivalent to
> 1.875Mb/sec and I normally see 1.74Mb/sec downloads so this file ran about
> 20% of my normal download speed. 'wget' would be even slower; ETA of 25
> minutes.

There's little unit confusion here, I usually run wget which works in 
K(=*1024)/M/bytes
(ironically it does not report the 'byte' part).
Anyway the reported slowness of wget might be also due to ncftp really
measuring in kB meaning 1000*bit, not byte...

For the rest of reports maybe better if we stick to wget measurements if you 
have them
on your computers. i.e.:
wget 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg

Pavel

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 05:01:18PM +, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Pavel Sanda wrote:
> > 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> > 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> > 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> > (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)
> 
> To start the table with reference times where my fingers reach + Rich's:
> 
> US(CA); 1.88M/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 89.4M/s 
> US(Or); 454.19 kB/s; local ISP; UCSD mirror: 2Mb/sec
> Ca(Quebec): 242 Kb/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 393 Kb/s
> EU(Cz); 44.6M/s; academic network

US(FL); 1.33MB/s; residential LAN

Scott


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Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Pavel Sanda wrote:


To start the table with reference times where my fingers reach + Rich's:

US(CA); 1.88M/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 89.4M/s
US(Or); 454.19 kB/s; local ISP; UCSD mirror: 2Mb/sec
Ca(Quebec): 242 Kb/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 393 Kb/s
EU(Cz); 44.6M/s; academic network


Pavel,

  Looks to me like the pipe between the server and the tester's ISP (which
would be the universtiy/college in two cases) has the largest influence, not
the connection between user and ISP. It will be interesting to see the rest
of the results.

  Perhaps responders could report their nominal download speeds and the type
of connection they have to their upstream provider. That would be
interesting, too.

Regards,

Rich

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Pavel Sanda]

Pavel Sanda wrote:
> 1. time to download (/ download speed)
> 2. country (and/or domain) where you download from
> 3. whether you download from home/academic network/large company...
> (you don't have to report more details than it feels comfortable...)

To start the table with reference times where my fingers reach + Rich's:

US(CA); 1.88M/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 89.4M/s 
US(Or); 454.19 kB/s; local ISP; UCSD mirror: 2Mb/sec
Ca(Quebec): 242 Kb/s; academic network; UCSD mirror: 393 Kb/s
EU(Cz); 44.6M/s; academic network

Re: Small poll - download speed of LyX installers

[Rich Shepard]

On Fri, 16 Feb 2018, Pavel Sanda wrote:


Hello lyx users,
If you have one minute of spare time could you download this file
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
and report:


Pavel,

  $ ncftpget 
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-2.3/lyx-2.3.0rc2/LyX-2.3.0rc2+qt5-x86_64-cocoa.dmg
ETA:   6:28  129.38 MB  454.19 kB/s

  I am in Troutdale, Oregon, the upper left corner of the US. I have a fiber
connnection to my ISP, 15Mbps down/5Mbps up. That's equivalent to
1.875Mb/sec and I normally see 1.74Mb/sec downloads so this file ran about
20% of my normal download speed. 'wget' would be even slower; ETA of 25
minutes.

  My office is in my house.


http://www.lyx.org/Download#toc11 which are closer to your geographical


  Could not find it on the uscd.edu/mirror2/ server, but the largest file
there, an .exe file, was dribbling down at about 250kbps (2Mb/sec).

  Since I run only linux and download source files I've not hit any speed
issues.

  Hope this information is useful,

Carpe weekend,

Rich