Finding Unseen Items in Status Menu

2011-12-19 Thread Earle
Haven't been out here in a while, so please forgive me if this has already been 
covered. I went back through some archives, but saw no mention of this issue.

I am currently using the latest version of Lion, and I have all updates 
installed. Is there a way to find the unseen icons in the status menu? I was 
able to do this in Snow Leopard, but can't seem to get it to work in Lion. It 
isn't very often that I need this feature, so it hasn't been an issue up until 
now. Like I said, I had no problems finding these icons in Snow Leopard. I'm 
trying the exact same procedure that I used to use in Snow Leopard, but I'm 
having no luck. Is there no way to do this in Lion currently? Any help would be 
most appreciated.
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keyboard.

2011-12-19 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi taking the keyboard in to the apple store on wednesday they where very 
helpful when i rang my local apple store and booked me an apoiment over the 
phone. They have to check the keyboard just to be sure i did not damage it my 
self, even though i know it was accedentle.

Ian McNamara
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words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi has any one managed to play the words with friends with voice over? If so 
how does it work?

thanks very much.

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Re: Keynote 5.1.1 Accessibility question [Was: Re: Top Ten list of tools and techniques I used to successfully complete my first college semester as a blind student]

2011-12-19 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi Bryan,

To be honest I've noticed no discernible difference(s).  however, I simply 
opened a powerpoint presentation, went into slideshow mode and then discovered 
that it was still lousy.

Sory I can't be more possitive,

Dónal
On 19 Dec 2011, at 02:59, Bryan Jones wrote:

 Hello Donal,
 
 Thank you for your feedback. I'm interested in your comments regarding the 
 accessibility limitations in Keynote. I'm not yet a heavy Keynote User, but I 
 did notice that the recent 5.1.1 update included a mention of improved 
 accessibility and am wondering if the slide show or any other access issues 
 were addressed in this update. Apple, as usual, seems to offer no details 
 regarding the improvements, so I'm hoping someone familiar with the product 
 and it's shortcomings might be able to opine on this.
 
 Cheers,
 Bryan
 
 On Dec 18, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 One aspect where OSX and VO are truly abysmal is in the area of making 
 presentations.  Anne Robertson has played with this extensively and has come 
 up with several ingenious workarounds.  However, it seems criminal that two 
 years after release, VO still cannot access a presentation when the thing is 
 being played in slideshow mode.  What do Apple think blind people want to do 
 with Keynote, create presentations and have someone else make them?
 
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Re: accessible FTP client

2011-12-19 Thread Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith
Paula

Have you considered Expandrive, http://www.expandrive.com it is a 
cross-platform application which we use here and it saves a lot of time, even 
with one server.

Lynne


On 18 Dec 2011, at 18:39, Paula Hobley wrote:

Thanks Lew, I don't regularly work with ftp survers, just need to access one
every now and then. I will check out your suggestion.

Cheers

Paula


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Hi Paula,

cyberduck is a great free alternative which I quite like for data on the
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love cyberduck. Transmit is a decent package and worth the money if you're
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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi thanks for that glad i only got the three verssion then smiley.

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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi could i have the address for all the accessable apple apps heard there was a 
webpage showing them all.

thanks very much.

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copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Folks,

I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
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copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Dónal Fitzpatrick
Folks,

I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
Dónal Fitzpatrick
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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread chris hallsworth

www.applevis.com.

On 19/12/2011 15:20, Ian McNamara wrote:

Hi could i have the address for all the accessable apple apps heard there was a 
webpage showing them all.

thanks very much.

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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Paul Hopewell
Hi Donald, 
I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in TextEdit 
WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window in the 
normal way. 

Paul Hopewell 
On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
 without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
 returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 
 
 
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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread Ian McNamara
Thanks thinking of taking a look at that lyric jenus app but it says it only 
works on the ipad so if i get it for my iphone i take it it wont work.

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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread Lewis Crack
Hi Ian!

The web address for the accessible apps is: http://www.applevis.com
 Scroll to App Directory and double tap it, and you'll find them all in 
there. You can, of course, view this page on the computer too.
Cheers.
Lewis :)
On 19 Dec 2011, at 15:20, Ian McNamara wrote:

 Hi could i have the address for all the accessable apple apps heard there was 
 a webpage showing them all.
 
 thanks very much.
 
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Esther
Hi Dónal,

You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the New TextEdit 
Window Containing Selection option is checked under the Services menu option, 
you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need to use Command-A 
to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the instructions to set 
this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
• Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to send 
your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is that it 
can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with VoiceOver 
due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option strips out the 
non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For similar reasons, 
you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in documents in Pages, Nisus 
Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and applying the shortcut, since it 
transforms the embedded material to text, and lets VoiceOver read out the table 
directly.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:

 Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much indeed 
 for this.
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
 
 Hi Donald, 
 I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
 menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
 TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window 
 in the normal way. 
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
 without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
 pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 

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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread Ian McNamara
Hi mate allready got some apps from this sight smiley.

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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Shannon Dyer
I'm running SL. Will this work for me, or is this just for lion users?

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On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:

 Hi Donald, 
 I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
 menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
 TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window 
 in the normal way. 
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
 without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, pasting, 
 returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 
 
 
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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi Shannon!
Yes it will!
And if you have already red Esther's post a about adding that shortcut that 
will also work! :]
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 On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
 
 Hi Donald, 
 I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to the 
 menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
 TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window 
 in the normal way. 
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do this 
 without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
 pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread chris hallsworth
Lyric Genius works on the iPhone and iPod Touch as well as the iPad. 
Perhaps the person submitted it tested it on an iPad only.


On 19/12/2011 17:25, Ian McNamara wrote:

Thanks thinking of taking a look at that lyric jenus app but it says it only 
works on the ipad so if i get it for my iphone i take it it wont work.

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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Esther
Hi Shannon and Others,

I've been using this Services menu option to send selections to TextEdit since 
Tiger -- which is the very first version of Mac OS X to support VoiceOver.  The 
main practical difference in using this in versions starting with Snow Leopard 
is that you have to check a box under a table in the Keyboard Shortcuts pane of 
System Preferences to determine which items show up under the Services menu.  
In Tiger and Leopard, the option automatically appeared under the TextEdit 
submenu of Services  as New window containing selection.  As Colin stated, my 
earlier post gives a link to step-by-step instructions to enable this Services 
menu option, and additionally assign a keyboard shortcut.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther 
On Dec 19, 2011, at 08:39, Red.Falcon wrote:

 Hi Shannon!
 Yes it will!
 And if you have already red Esther's post a about adding that shortcut that 
 will also work! :]
 Colin
 Qapla!
 
 Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak
 
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 I'm running SL. Will this work for me, or is this just for lion users?
 
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 On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
 
 Hi Donald, 
 I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to 
 the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
 TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit 
 window in the normal way. 
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do 
 this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
 pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 

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Re: Finding Unseen Items in Status Menu

2011-12-19 Thread Sarah Alawami
Not that I am aware of. I also want to do this and hav asked  but so far no 
answer. Ther probably is a way to do it but I'm not that knoledgable as most 
members on this list lol.

Hope someone can answer our queries.
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 Haven't been out here in a while, so please forgive me if this has already 
 been covered. I went back through some archives, but saw no mention of this 
 issue.
 
 I am currently using the latest version of Lion, and I have all updates 
 installed. Is there a way to find the unseen icons in the status menu? I was 
 able to do this in Snow Leopard, but can't seem to get it to work in Lion. It 
 isn't very often that I need this feature, so it hasn't been an issue up 
 until now. Like I said, I had no problems finding these icons in Snow 
 Leopard. I'm trying the exact same procedure that I used to use in Snow 
 Leopard, but I'm having no luck. Is there no way to do this in Lion 
 currently? Any help would be most appreciated.
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turning PDF into text

2011-12-19 Thread Paula Hobley
Hi there

 

I am looking for an application that will turn my pdf documents into text.
Can anybody recommend anything?  I know ABBY Fine Reader is out there, but I
don't want to actually scan books, just turn pdf images into text.

 


Thanks for your help

 

Paula

 

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Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread Sarah Alawami
I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo 
enter fails even after interaction with the area.

Thanks for the tip though.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Dónal,
 
 You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the New TextEdit 
 Window Containing Selection option is checked under the Services menu 
 option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need to use 
 Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the 
 instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
 • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
 I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to 
 send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is 
 that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with 
 VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option strips 
 out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For similar 
 reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in documents in 
 Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and applying the 
 shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text, and lets 
 VoiceOver read out the table directly.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much indeed 
 for this.
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
 
 Hi Donald, 
 I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to 
 the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in 
 TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit 
 window in the normal way. 
 
 Paul Hopewell 
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do 
 this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying, 
 pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 
 
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Re: words with friends and voice over.

2011-12-19 Thread Marcos Rodrigues
Try hanging with friends, it is accessible and very cool.

Enviado via iPhone

Em 19/12/2011, às 13:18, Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com escreveu:

 Hi thanks for that glad i only got the three verssion then smiley.
 
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drop box question

2011-12-19 Thread michael maslo
Hi list:

Can someone please tell me how to cop a public link?

I am trying to do this. I have a file in my public folder and want to copy a 
link or create a link and then copy it and paste it in the email message.

How do I do this? I do not understand on how. I know with other systems you 
have to right click but mac won't allow me to do that.
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Instructions for clearing App switcher [was Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone]

2011-12-19 Thread Esther
Hi Paula and Others,

At the risk of adding to an already long thread, I thought I'd post 
instructions on how I remove apps from the App switcher window.  

1. If you are currently in an app, click the Home button to return to the 
home screen
2. Double click the Home button, and you should hear VoiceOver say, App 
Switcher, then announce the name of your most recently used app, followed by 
double tap to open.
3. Perform the double tap and hold pass through gesture in the center of your 
iPhone screen. You should hear the burbly sound that indicates a successful 
execution of the pass through gesture, then VoiceOver should say, editing 
apps.  Focus will be on the app in the bottom left corner of the screen.  You 
don't have to locate this app before you do the pass through gesture, because 
it already had focus when you opened the App Switcher.  So you don't need to 
worry about performing the double tap and hold gesture in any particular 
location on the screen -- I do this in the center of the screen.
4. Keep double tapping in the center of the screen to delete apps. As you 
delete apps, focus will stay on the bottom left corner of the screen, and the 
next app to be deleted will move into position here.  (You don't actually have 
to wait for VoiceOver to announce each action's completed status as you double 
tap to delete.)
5. Eventually, VoiceOver will announce, App Switcher has no items.
6. Click the Home button to return to your home screen.

You can also perform a variant of the above using a paired Bluetooth keyboard, 
but the double tap and hold pass through gesture must be performed on the 
screen, since there is no equivalent keyboard shortcut.  The instructions would 
work as follows:
1. If you are currently in an app, press Control+Option+H to return to the home 
screen.  On keyboards with a dedicated Home key (e.g. the iPad Keyboard Dock, 
and some third party keyboards, but not the Apple Wireless Keyboard) you can 
press that key to return to the home screen.
2. Press VO-H twice by holding down the Control+Option keys and tapping the h 
key twice to access the App Switcher.  Again, on keyboards with a dedicated 
Home key, you can simply double click that key.
3. Perform the double tap and hold pass through gesture in the center of your 
iPhone screen. (This has to be done as a gesture, but you can do it anywhere in 
the center of your screen.) You should hear the burbly sound that indicates a 
successful execution of the  pass through gesture, then VoiceOver should say, 
editing apps. Focus will be on the most recently used app, in the bottom left 
corner of the screen.
4. Use your keyboard to remove all the apps in the App Switcher window.  I do 
this with VO+space bar, since I can hold down the Control+Option keys and just 
keep tapping the space bar until all the apps in the App Switcher window are 
removed and you hear VoiceOver say, App Switcher has no items. If you have a 
Keyboard without a Control or Option key, you can turn QuickNav on (by 
simultaneously pressing the right and left arrow keys), and then press the 
up+down arrow keys instead of using VO+space bar to delete apps.
5. Eventually, VoiceOver will announce, App Switcher has no items.
6. Press VO+H, or press the dedicated home key if your keyboard has one, to 
return to the home screen.

I'll just add that the App Switcher window is really a list of your recently 
used apps, but doesn't tell you which apps are actively running.   In the 
multi-tasking environment, as your iOS device requires more resources it starts 
dropping your previously used apps from its active list.  If you happen to 
remove an app from your App Switcher window which is actively running, you'll 
stop it from running.  Since VoiceOver requires more resources when it is 
running than the default iOS system without VoiceOver, users often want to 
release resources from currently running apps manually, hence the practice of 
clearing off apps from the App Switcher window.  This is overkill in the sense 
that you're removing all your recently used apps in order to guarantee that the 
few that are still using resources are stopped.  Another way to do this, 
without deleting apps from the App Switcher window, is to use an app that frees 
memory, like XSysInfo or System Activity Monitor.  There are probab
 ly more updated versions of these apps that can be used to free memory.  I 
usually use Activity Monitor Touch to check which apps are currently running.  
Another thing that may not be obvious: even when an app is not running, it 
still may locally store data in memory that gets used when you next launch the 
app.  So even if you remove Safari from the App Switcher window, if you don't 
close additional tabs, or go to Settings  Safari and use the options to Clear 
Cache and Clear History, that stored memory usage will still impact your 
resources.

HTH.  Cheers,

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Re: drop box question

2011-12-19 Thread Sarah Alawami
Just hit vo shift m on the file in question and you should see the dropbox 
submenu. from there  you should be able to right arrow and then hit  enter on 
copy public link.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 4:05 PM, michael maslo wrote:

 Hi list:
 
 Can someone please tell me how to cop a public link?
 
 I am trying to do this. I have a file in my public folder and want to copy a 
 link or create a link and then copy it and paste it in the email message.
 
 How do I do this? I do not understand on how. I know with other systems you 
 have to right click but mac won't allow me to do that.
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the dictionary on the i-phone

2011-12-19 Thread michael weaver
is there a way of getting the options and words in the dictionary 
on the i-phone when a word is queried when texting?
i have tried the rota and swiping and i cannot seem to be able to 
access words or the options and you cannot seem to be able to 
press space or enter on a word you wish to accept because if it 
queries with the wrong word and you try to change it, it just 
puts the wrong word back again.
none of the options in the rota seem to give me access when i am 
texting and a word is queried.
deleting a character at the end of the word sometimes brings up 
the right choice first time but hitting enter or space changes it 
back to the word that it first comes up with rather than the one 
you want.
i know one person told me she switches off the dictionary because 
she uses the same bluetooth keyboard as me which is the bt 
freedom but i don't always wish to carry a bluetooth keyboard 
around with me as it is still pretty bulky when foldered down and 
normally needs a larger pocket for carrying it in.

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RE: the dictionary on the i-phone

2011-12-19 Thread Paula Hobley
I have the same issue when texting, it's really irritating! I'm not sure how
to fix it either.  My pet hate is when I want to use a word that's not in
the dictionary and it won't let me use it.

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To: mac-access@mac-access.net
Subject: the dictionary on the i-phone

is there a way of getting the options and words in the dictionary 
on the i-phone when a word is queried when texting?
i have tried the rota and swiping and i cannot seem to be able to 
access words or the options and you cannot seem to be able to 
press space or enter on a word you wish to accept because if it 
queries with the wrong word and you try to change it, it just 
puts the wrong word back again.
none of the options in the rota seem to give me access when i am 
texting and a word is queried.
deleting a character at the end of the word sometimes brings up 
the right choice first time but hitting enter or space changes it 
back to the word that it first comes up with rather than the one 
you want.
i know one person told me she switches off the dictionary because 
she uses the same bluetooth keyboard as me which is the bt 
freedom but i don't always wish to carry a bluetooth keyboard 
around with me as it is still pretty bulky when foldered down and 
normally needs a larger pocket for carrying it in.
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Re: the dictionary on the i-phone

2011-12-19 Thread Sarah Alawami
If you want to reject a word swipe down and double tap to reject it and keep 
typing. It will learn what you mean eventally.

Also you only get one word so  there ya go.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 8:36 PM, Paula Hobley wrote:

 I have the same issue when texting, it's really irritating! I'm not sure how
 to fix it either.  My pet hate is when I want to use a word that's not in
 the dictionary and it won't let me use it.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net
 [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of michael weaver
 Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2011 3:45 PM
 To: mac-access@mac-access.net
 Subject: the dictionary on the i-phone
 
 is there a way of getting the options and words in the dictionary 
 on the i-phone when a word is queried when texting?
 i have tried the rota and swiping and i cannot seem to be able to 
 access words or the options and you cannot seem to be able to 
 press space or enter on a word you wish to accept because if it 
 queries with the wrong word and you try to change it, it just 
 puts the wrong word back again.
 none of the options in the rota seem to give me access when i am 
 texting and a word is queried.
 deleting a character at the end of the word sometimes brings up 
 the right choice first time but hitting enter or space changes it 
 back to the word that it first comes up with rather than the one 
 you want.
 i know one person told me she switches off the dictionary because 
 she uses the same bluetooth keyboard as me which is the bt 
 freedom but i don't always wish to carry a bluetooth keyboard 
 around with me as it is still pretty bulky when foldered down and 
 normally needs a larger pocket for carrying it in.
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Re: hanging with friends.

2011-12-19 Thread Sarah Alawami
Double tap ont he letter you want. If you want to build teeth

double tap t

double tap e

if there's another e double tap that

if there is another t double tap that
and double tap h if you have that.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 7:10 PM, Ian McNamara wrote:

 Ok i got the three versssion of hanging with friends how do i build my word?
 
 Ian McNamara
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RE: copying large chunk of text from safari.

2011-12-19 Thread David Griffith
Interacting did not work for me either, but It did work for me in safari at
least after pressing VO spacebar on the shortcut field and then pressing the
desired shortcut combination.
 

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Sent: 19 December 2011 23:24
To: Mac OSX  iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: copying large chunk of text from safari.

I'll have to try that. I added the shortcut but sometimes selecting with vo
enter fails even after interaction with the area.

Thanks for the tip though.
On Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Dónal,
 
 You can speed this up even more if, after making sure that the New
TextEdit Window Containing Selection option is checked under the Services
menu option, you also assign this a keyboard shortcut.  Then you only need
to use Command-A to select all and apply your shortcut.  You can find the
instructions to set this up in the archived post I wrote for our list:
 • Re: Selecting a block of text from a website on Lion 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/msg00659.html
 I'm using the shortcut Command-Option-Shift-W for this, and this works to
send your selected text to TextEdit from any application.  An added bonus is
that it can also be used to read some web sites that are not accessible with
VoiceOver due to bad HTML coding, since using the Services menu option
strips out the non-text elements, as a simple copy and paste does not.  For
similar reasons, you can use this to read embedded tables and lists in
documents in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. by selecting the page and
applying the shortcut, since it transforms the embedded material to text,
and lets VoiceOver read out the table directly.
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Dec 19, 2011, at 06:36, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Ahh Paul, the best solution is usualy the simplest!  thanks very much
indeed for this.
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:30, Paul Hopewell wrote:
 
 Hi Donald,
 I do this by selecting all the text in the Safari page and then going to
the menu bar and selecting Safari then Services then Save selected text in
TextEdit WIndow. I can then select the desired text from the TextEdit window
in the normal way. 
 
 Paul Hopewell
 On 19 Dec 2011, at 16:05, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
 
 Folks,
 
 I need to copy large chunks of text from safari.  Is there a way to do
this without interacting with each block of text, selecting it, copying,
pasting, returning to safari and doing the same thing all over again?
 Dónal Fitzpatrick
 dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie
 
 
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Re: turning PDF into text

2011-12-19 Thread Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis
On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 9:28 PM, Paula Hobley paula.hob...@bigpond.com wrote:
 I am looking for an application that will turn my pdf documents into text.
 Can anybody recommend anything?  I know ABBY Fine Reader is out there, but I
 don't want to actually scan books, just turn pdf images into text.

ABBY can work from an opened PDF file.

Having bought ABBY, I've actually ended up using PDFPenPro instead. I
think it behaves much more like a Mac application than ABBY. However,
I don't know how well it plays with VoiceOver.

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Re: Instructions for clearing App switcher [was Re: Removing applications from App switcher in IPhone]

2011-12-19 Thread Paula Hobley
Thanks for that Esther, I will give this a go.

Take care

Paula

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 Hi Paula and Others,
 
 At the risk of adding to an already long thread, I thought I'd post 
 instructions on how I remove apps from the App switcher window.  
 
 1. If you are currently in an app, click the Home button to return to the 
 home screen
 2. Double click the Home button, and you should hear VoiceOver say, App 
 Switcher, then announce the name of your most recently used app, followed by 
 double tap to open.
 3. Perform the double tap and hold pass through gesture in the center of your 
 iPhone screen. You should hear the burbly sound that indicates a successful 
 execution of the pass through gesture, then VoiceOver should say, editing 
 apps.  Focus will be on the app in the bottom left corner of the screen.  
 You don't have to locate this app before you do the pass through gesture, 
 because it already had focus when you opened the App Switcher.  So you don't 
 need to worry about performing the double tap and hold gesture in any 
 particular location on the screen -- I do this in the center of the screen.
 4. Keep double tapping in the center of the screen to delete apps. As you 
 delete apps, focus will stay on the bottom left corner of the screen, and the 
 next app to be deleted will move into position here.  (You don't actually 
 have to wait for VoiceOver to announce each action's completed status as you 
 double tap to delete.)
 5. Eventually, VoiceOver will announce, App Switcher has no items.
 6. Click the Home button to return to your home screen.
 
 You can also perform a variant of the above using a paired Bluetooth 
 keyboard, but the double tap and hold pass through gesture must be performed 
 on the screen, since there is no equivalent keyboard shortcut.  The 
 instructions would work as follows:
 1. If you are currently in an app, press Control+Option+H to return to the 
 home screen.  On keyboards with a dedicated Home key (e.g. the iPad 
 Keyboard Dock, and some third party keyboards, but not the Apple Wireless 
 Keyboard) you can press that key to return to the home screen.
 2. Press VO-H twice by holding down the Control+Option keys and tapping the 
 h key twice to access the App Switcher.  Again, on keyboards with a 
 dedicated Home key, you can simply double click that key.
 3. Perform the double tap and hold pass through gesture in the center of your 
 iPhone screen. (This has to be done as a gesture, but you can do it anywhere 
 in the center of your screen.) You should hear the burbly sound that 
 indicates a successful execution of the  pass through gesture, then VoiceOver 
 should say, editing apps. Focus will be on the most recently used app, in 
 the bottom left corner of the screen.
 4. Use your keyboard to remove all the apps in the App Switcher window.  I do 
 this with VO+space bar, since I can hold down the Control+Option keys and 
 just keep tapping the space bar until all the apps in the App Switcher window 
 are removed and you hear VoiceOver say, App Switcher has no items. If you 
 have a Keyboard without a Control or Option key, you can turn QuickNav on (by 
 simultaneously pressing the right and left arrow keys), and then press the 
 up+down arrow keys instead of using VO+space bar to delete apps.
 5. Eventually, VoiceOver will announce, App Switcher has no items.
 6. Press VO+H, or press the dedicated home key if your keyboard has one, to 
 return to the home screen.
 
 I'll just add that the App Switcher window is really a list of your recently 
 used apps, but doesn't tell you which apps are actively running.   In the 
 multi-tasking environment, as your iOS device requires more resources it 
 starts dropping your previously used apps from its active list.  If you 
 happen to remove an app from your App Switcher window which is actively 
 running, you'll stop it from running.  Since VoiceOver requires more 
 resources when it is running than the default iOS system without VoiceOver, 
 users often want to release resources from currently running apps manually, 
 hence the practice of clearing off apps from the App Switcher window.  This 
 is overkill in the sense that you're removing all your recently used apps in 
 order to guarantee that the few that are still using resources are stopped.  
 Another way to do this, without deleting apps from the App Switcher window, 
 is to use an app that frees memory, like XSysInfo or System Activity Monitor. 
  There are prob
 ab
 ly more updated versions of these apps that can be used to free memory.  I 
 usually use Activity Monitor Touch to check which apps are currently running. 
  Another thing that may not be obvious: even when an app is not running, it 
 still may locally store data in memory that gets used when you next launch 
 the app.  So even if you remove Safari from the App Switcher window, if you 
 don't close additional tabs, or go to Settings  Safari and use the options 
 to Clear 

Navigon 2.01 is out.

2011-12-19 Thread Geoff Waaler
Greetings y'all,

Navigon NorthAmerica 2.01 was released on Monday, and I would presume there are 
applicable updates for other world wide offerings.

VoiceOver was specifically mentioned in their documentation of recent changes, 
so hopefully the sluggishness will abate for those who are not using the 
dual-core A5 chip.  I can report that it is now possible to return to the main 
menu even when following a route.  Since my experience using Navigon version 2.0
with voiceOver on a 4S was dramatically better than what others using older 
hardware reported, I hesitate to say: come on in, the water's fine.  I can 
definitively assert, however that 2.01 is, if anything more voiceOver 
accessible than the last version 1 release (1.73 if memory serves).

Happy downloading!
Geoff
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Re: Navigon 2.01 is out.

2011-12-19 Thread Sarah Alawami
I notice the changes but the slugishness still remains. *cries*

Take care..
On Dec 19, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:

 Greetings y'all,
 
 Navigon NorthAmerica 2.01 was released on Monday, and I would presume there 
 are applicable updates for other world wide offerings.
 
 VoiceOver was specifically mentioned in their documentation of recent 
 changes, so hopefully the sluggishness will abate for those who are not using 
 the dual-core A5 chip.  I can report that it is now possible to return to the 
 main menu even when following a route.  Since my experience using Navigon 
 version 2.0
 with voiceOver on a 4S was dramatically better than what others using older 
 hardware reported, I hesitate to say: come on in, the water's fine.  I can 
 definitively assert, however that 2.01 is, if anything more voiceOver 
 accessible than the last version 1 release (1.73 if memory serves).
 
 Happy downloading!
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