Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
As for something real I would go with Murray and others: let's use more components. And in order to help developers and package maintainers, build-bots would really help. I'm glad Carlos is taking care of it. Well, I'm looking at that for sardine and herring, let's see what actually can be done and how generally it can be applied to Maemo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 47)
I'm rather busy right now so I skimmed the list archives more quickly than usual so I may have missed something interesting. Please make a note if I did. I'd like to ask people replying to this mail to change the Subject accordingly. It makes scanning the mailing list much easier. Thanks. Here is a list of issues raised on this list I think have not been concluded so far, in no particular order. The easiest way to get off the list is to provide answers, but you can also try convincing me other ways. * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005813.html Maemo and Ubuntu Edgy: Is it safe? (USB API changed in Edgy. As a result the flasher stopped working.) 6th mention Why is the flasher not open source? (One possible explanation is the cold flashing feature which might require (possibly TI proprietary) ROM code: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005990.html) * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006027.html Scary message at the end of flashing 4th mention Sending request 0x83 failed: Invalid or incomplete multibyte or wide character -- what does that mean? * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005985.html MMC - multiblock writes 4th mention Does OMAP 1710 support multiblock writes safely? * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006151.html preferred application 3rd mention How does file manager select which application to open a given file with? * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006152.html extras packages for sardine 3rd mention Is there any way to upload extras packages for use with sardine, instead of just mistral? Not yet. http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006251.html * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006311.html Issues with keyboard and input methods Problems with ntilde (only) ? Resolved since last week. * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005797.html building an application with custom kernel-headers gcc (/scratchbox/compilers/bin/sb_gcc_wrapper) can't find a definition from custom kernel-headers? Works with pure arm compiler. http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006267.html * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005787.html End-user roadmap? Software update was released 2nd November. We do not have a public roadmap at this point. http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006345.html * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006161.html On screen keyboard questions Is the format of the .vkb files (in /usr/share/keyboards) described somewhere? Is there a tool to generate those files from some kind of source files? * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006248.html Bluetooth headset? We don't have concrete plans at the moment regarding bluetooth headsets. http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006346.html * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006188.html Java on the 770 We don't have any plans for Java at the moment. http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006347.html * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006185.html WMA streaming What are my options for Windows Media Audio streams on the 770? You might get WMA for gstreamer from fluendo: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006272.html FFmpeg and MPlayer should also work (for low bitrate): http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006349.html Removed from the list per request. * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005760.html Keeping the softkeypad from going away. How can you keep the softkeypad from going away in a hildon application written in python? If it is possible to do in C it is possible to do in Python. http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006266.html Thanks all. -- Tommi Komulainen[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset? (was: Unresolved issues (Week 46))
On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 11:05 -0800, ext George Farris wrote: On Thu, 2006-23-11 at 17:55 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote: On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 15:13 +0200, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote: * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006248.html Bluetooth headset? What are [we] doing to enable support for bluetooth headsets? We don't have concrete plans at the moment. Please bring this up after next release, in case we forget it. There have already been requests for the last three releases. Is there no way to push this forward a step so we can get this support in for the NEXT release? We discussed the question and above is the answer we have at the moment. What I meant with the next release is that I'm going to consider the issue as resolved as it got an answer. Granted, the answer is not too helpful in practical terms, but better than complete silence. Which is the purpose of this exercise. Good time to bring up the question again is when we have updated our plans, but given that we're not too forthcoming with such things proactively I'd suggest taking the opportunity after new software releases. In case we don't address the issues otherwise. -- Tommi Komulainen[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] WMA streaming
On Thursday 23 November 2006 21:02, you wrote: On Monday 13 November 2006 22:08, Andrew Barr wrote: What are my options for Windows Media Audio streams on the 770? Most Internet radio streams (I mean simulcasts of real broadcasts in this sense) are offered in (at least) this format, which is supported by free software (ffmpeg) up to version 2, the latest version I've ever seen anywhere. However, no one seems to have had any luck with third-party codecs on this device, much less for streaming. Is this device powerful enough to handle decoding audio streams using C or ARM-assembly codecs (from ffmpeg)? It's likely that the bitstream would be 16 to 24 kbps. I understand free tools for the DSP aren't quite there yet, so that may not be an option. FFmpeg library contains WMA decoder and MPlayer supports it at least on x86 desktop PC. There are some problems with its support on ARM though. First and the most easy to fix is that WMA decoder seems to have some alignment problems, so it crashes on any attempt to play WMA files. This is quite easy to workaround by running 'echo 3 /proc/cpu/alignment' as root, see https://maemo.org/maemowiki/PortingFromX86ToARM and the links at it for more information. A major problem with WMA decoder is that it uses floating point math. And having no FPU in hardware, Nokia 770 does not seem to be able to decode 128kbps WMA files to play them in realtime (sound is skippy). So it is not very useful unless somebody finds (or implements) a fixed point WMA decoder. However I also tested 20kbps WMA sample and it worked fine with CPU load at about 60%. So if anybody would like to have such low bitrate WMA files/streams supported, I can have a look at these alignment problems, fix them and release updated version of MPlayer for everyone to use. Well, the latest maemo build of MPlayer now supports WMA audio (with that extremely inefficient cpu usage and unability to play high bitrates). But it can play internet radio streams, for example running the following works: # mplayer mms://wm05.nm.cbc.ca/cbcr1-calgary-low On the other hand, standard audio player seems to support WMA files playback just fine :) Does it have problems with internet radio? Or you just tried to look for free alternatives? What was the reason for asking this WMA streaming question in the first place? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 46)
Pada hari Senin, tanggal 20/11/2006 pukul 15:28 +0200, ext Mohammad Anwari menulis: Hi, Currently the file format is not published. Hi, Correcting my self. The file format is available in /usr/share/libimlayouts/fileformat.html in your maemo rootstrap. However, the API to use the file is not published. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] wiki revision history
Frantisek Dufka wrote: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/CodeNames Huh it is undone and page is back now, thanks, what happened? Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] keyboard simulator
Hi I am interested in writing a script or program (or obtaining from elsewhere an open source one) that can simulate hardware keypresses of a keyboard, in particular those of the hardware keys on the nokia. Can any one point me in the right direction. Regards Simon -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 26/11/2006 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Up-to-date documentation for a working Sardine
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 01:16 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote: Hi, Sardine suffered a large amount of change in the past weeks, some subtle others quite drastic. Lots of problems were fixed (more on that later) in the code, the packaging, the tools, the infrastructure and the development process. As a result after many weeks of being half-broken most of the time, Sardine is working (for me at least ;). The documentation has lagged behind for some time but now it is up-to-date, including crucially setup instructions. Enjoy: http://sardine.garage.maemo.org/ Thank you. Works for me. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] keyboard simulator
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Moore wrote: I am interested in writing a script or program (or obtaining from elsewhere an open source one) that can simulate hardware keypresses of a keyboard, in particular those of the hardware keys on the nokia. XTest is probably what you want, XTestFakeKeyEvent to be more precise. See for example: http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/xvkbd/events.html, google is your friend too. =) - -- Santtu Lakkala -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbBx2OjErIbnoFXIRAh3PAJ0b8pm7D4qjg/dXblFJNkh9vI9R1wCeL6Vj oKR213GHP/w+v6uScAb1d/M= =vCIw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Upgrading maemo launcher
Hello, I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade this morning. I saw the maemo-launcher is supposed to be upgraded. I stopped there, because I vaguely remember that this broke some time ago the Nokia 770 and brought it in continous reboot cycles. Is this upgrade now safe? Thanks, Rainer Nokia770-39:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de/maemo2/ mistral free #maemo:essential deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ mistral user deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ mistral user deb http://repository.maemo.org/ mistral free non-free deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ mistral free non-free deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ mistral main deb http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/repository/ maemo2 free # Xournal deb http://www.bgran.net/etrunko/apt/ mistral user #kismet deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user Nokia770-39:~# uname -a Linux Nokia770-39 2.6.16.27-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Sep 19 16:46:58 EEST 2006 armv5tejl unknown Nokia770-39:~# -- Rainer Dorsch Alzentalstr. 28 D-71083 Herrenberg 07032-919495 jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Fingerprint: 5966 C54C 2B3C 42CC 1F4F 8F59 E3A8 C538 7519 141E Full GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] keyboard simulator
Thanks, looks like it may do the job. Kind Regards Simon At 11:24 28/11/2006, Santtu Lakkala wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Moore wrote: I am interested in writing a script or program (or obtaining from elsewhere an open source one) that can simulate hardware keypresses of a keyboard, in particular those of the hardware keys on the nokia. XTest is probably what you want, XTestFakeKeyEvent to be more precise. See for example: http://homepage3.nifty.com/tsato/xvkbd/events.html, google is your friend too. =) - -- Santtu Lakkala -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbBx2OjErIbnoFXIRAh3PAJ0b8pm7D4qjg/dXblFJNkh9vI9R1wCeL6Vj oKR213GHP/w+v6uScAb1d/M= =vCIw -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 26/11/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.16/552 - Release Date: 26/11/2006 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 47)
Hello, On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 10:39 +0200, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote: ... Why is the flasher not open source? (One possible explanation is the cold flashing feature which might require (possibly TI proprietary) ROM code: http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005990.html) ... I verified this from one of the relevant developers: indeed, we don't have permission to publish the coldflashing code. Also, there may be a lack of interest to reveal the protocol in general. BR, Kimmo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 20:12:24 +0200, ext Marius Gedminas wrote: Would it be possible to do it somewhat like the way Debian/Ubuntu does it: 1. Maintainers upload Debian source packages. In Debian maintaiers upload source and at least binaries for one arch:any or arch:all. In Ubuntu it's source only uploads. 2. Autobuilders build binary packages for each repository and send emails to maintainers if there are errors. The buildd does not send any mail, that's the job of the buildd admin, which checks the logs and files appropriate bug reports, or requeues the build if it was a transient failiure, or sets Dep-Waits etc... Even if there are no autobuilders I would still want to enforce the requirement for having proper Debian source packages for everything that is distributed from Garage. That'd be good, yes. regards, guillem ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Upgrading maemo launcher
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 13:03 +0100, ext Rainer Dorsch wrote: Hello, I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade this morning. I saw the maemo-launcher is supposed to be upgraded. I stopped there, because I vaguely remember that this broke some time ago the Nokia 770 and brought it in continous reboot cycles. Is this upgrade now safe? To be safe, I suggest disabling the rebooting first with the flasher: 'flasher --enable-rd-mode --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset'. Then reboot manually after upgrading. (Remember to disable rd-mode later.) BR, Kimmo Thanks, Rainer Nokia770-39:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de/maemo2/ mistral free #maemo:essential deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ mistral user deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ mistral user deb http://repository.maemo.org/ mistral free non-free deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ mistral free non-free deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ mistral main deb http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/repository/ maemo2 free # Xournal deb http://www.bgran.net/etrunko/apt/ mistral user #kismet deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user Nokia770-39:~# uname -a Linux Nokia770-39 2.6.16.27-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Sep 19 16:46:58 EEST 2006 armv5tejl unknown Nokia770-39:~# ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Upgrading maemo launcher
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 13:03 +0100, ext Rainer Dorsch wrote: Hello, I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade this morning. I saw the maemo-launcher is supposed to be upgraded. I stopped there, because I vaguely remember that this broke some time ago the Nokia 770 and brought it in continous reboot cycles. Well, mistral/scirocco is supposed to be used for development only, so upgrading from device is not so kinda right Is this upgrade now safe? However, if you have Image week39-2006, then updating the maemo-launcher from scirocco will reboot device once. It's safe. I've tested it :) Since scirocco mistral have the same maemo-launcher version, i'd see no reason why it wouldn't be safe for your case (unless some other listed repos also contain maemo-launcher) BR, Hoang, Thanks, Rainer Nokia770-39:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de/maemo2/ mistral free #maemo:essential deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/ mistral user deb http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/ mistral user deb http://repository.maemo.org/ mistral free non-free deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras/ mistral free non-free deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ mistral main deb http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/repository/ maemo2 free # Xournal deb http://www.bgran.net/etrunko/apt/ mistral user #kismet deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user Nokia770-39:~# uname -a Linux Nokia770-39 2.6.16.27-omap1 #1 PREEMPT Tue Sep 19 16:46:58 EEST 2006 armv5tejl unknown Nokia770-39:~# ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
flasher Re: [maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 47)
Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote: I verified this from one of the relevant developers: indeed, we don't have permission to publish the coldflashing code. Also, there may be a lack of interest to reveal the protocol in general. Well, could you at leash kick the windows flasher team to make advanced flasher like the linux or macos one? Thank you. See also http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/4409?search_string=windows%20flasher%20;#4409 It would help people with windows based machines using colinux or qemu for development. While I have both kernel and initfs flasher running on device now I'm still missing functionality like - load kernel to ram - set various flags Or better really release the protocol or flasher source with coldflashing code removed. 'lack of interest to reveal the protocol' seems like no showstopper. Or is it? Thanks. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Flasher on Edgy
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 10:39:29AM +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote: I'd like to ask people replying to this mail to change the Subject accordingly. It makes scanning the mailing list much easier. Thanks. ... * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005813.html Maemo and Ubuntu Edgy: Is it safe? (USB API changed in Edgy. As a result the flasher stopped working.) 6th mention I have Edgy. I have successfully used the flasher (flasher-2.0) to enable USB host mode on my 770. (Note that initscripts in Edgy explicitly mount --rbind /dev/bus/usb on /proc/bus/usb) Marius Gedminas -- 1 4m 5o 3l337! just got r00t on this a href=127.0.0.1k3wl site/a j00 sux0r5! signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] re-evaluating the handwriting input method - butthere's a problem
There is a small hidden trick to manage upper or lower case in HWR. If you wrote a letter, say 'h', but you had wanted it to be uppercase 'H', you just rewrite 'h' or 'H' at the same place of printed 'h' in HWR area - the 'h' will be updated to 'H', no matter 'h' or 'H' you write later. Means you wrote 'h' twice at same position, the case will be corrected. The same rule valid for 'H' and all other letters. Br, Xun CHEN -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ext Antonio Orlando Sent: 09 November 2006 19:28 To: Maemo developers Subject: [maemo-developers] re-evaluating the handwriting input method - butthere's a problem Today, I've tried the handwriting input method. Oh what a mess, as the other times I've tried it. So, in the handwriting teaching app I have decided to disable *all* the symbols for *all* the chars (in my western charset), then I've created just one custom symbol for each lowercase letter and for numbers. Yes it's a hard work, it took me about 20 minutes. And surprise... it works like a charm! I can write at very high speed with very low error rate without having ever used a handwriting input system; I've only tried sometimes this one provided with 770, but the screen keyboard was faster and accurate so I've soon abandoned it. Now, with that trick, even with this first try it is way better than the screen keyboard. But, there is a problem, which I suppose could be easily solved, so the reason for this mail: sometimes, I need to write capital letters, of course. I don't want to define them as symbols, because they easily interfere with other ones, this is something to definetely avoid. But, the solution is simple: there should be a caps-lock button in the handwriting input application! I will continue to use my lowercase symbols, but with the caps-lock enabled they will be considered as capitals. Smooth and easy, isn't it? Can I hope this will be added in next firmware update? Just a little button, would improve the usability of the entire device a lot. I suggest this for everyone: use just ONE symbol for a character, and define symbols for as little chars as possible - this way the error rate is zero or really low, and you can handwrite 90% of the stuff you need to (supposing we have the caps-lock button improvement, otherwise the percentage falls down). Try it, if you ususally use the on-screen keyboard: it's not that bad with this trick. -- Antonio ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
I know there is good reason for that (so everybody can rebuild it) but this puts additional burden to package maintainers. I just uploaded scummvm binary deb but have to remove it if this is requirement. I don't have time to package also tremor, libmad and limbpeg so you can rebuild it properly. Also scummvm build process currently crashes with internal compiler error in Kyrandia engine and one file must be build with different compiler flags by hand. I know this is specific issue (which will probably go away with next compiler) but still there are the dependencies and others may have other reasons why rebuilding directly from source doesn't work or isn't easy. I have a similar issue with xmame. It relies on semi-extensive makefile customization for each arch/cpu/set of prefs, and it would be less than fun to script this for an automated build. -- Tcsh: Now with higher FPS! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] WMA streaming
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 10:48 +0200, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: Well, the latest maemo build of MPlayer now supports WMA audio (with that extremely inefficient cpu usage and unability to play high bitrates). But it can play internet radio streams, for example running the following works: # mplayer mms://wm05.nm.cbc.ca/cbcr1-calgary-low On the other hand, standard audio player seems to support WMA files playback just fine :) Does it have problems with internet radio? Or you just tried to look for free alternatives? What was the reason for asking this WMA streaming question in the first place? I was unaware that the standard audio player played WMA at all...I knew it played RealPlayer streams but in the past I'd had problems with it. I tried a few Real streams and they did seem to work...never tried the WMA though. Free alternatives are always better but if it works I suppose it is fine for now. I wouldn't have asked if I knew that the standard audio player did WMA. /Andrew ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] joystick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, this might sound retarded/joke but this is not a joke. I am wondering is anyone using 770 with a USB joystick? It could be possible in USB host mode to actually use one if it takes very little power. The reason I am asking this for is that especially if somebody has actual use case with SDL and joystick. I am planning to remove joystick support from SDL in maemo for now (the version will hit the sardine) and possibly re-include it later. - -- Kuisma -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbFfvHIcMorDK+qsRAhuSAJ9MsALnoaz9/+/nIF+OXrPVFajgpwCfesc1 sgXdnuitNBYoGCchtYckAXU= =JoA4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
ext Murray Cumming wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 00:58 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote: ne question: Which version of gtk-- to use and where to get it from (packaged)? libsigc++, glibmm, and gtkmm are already in extras. The packages just need to be rebuilt for sardine. They need to be updated too to the latest source versions, but we can take care of this, if you like. The preferred way for the sardine robot is to build from source (tagged releases in SVN). So, one or more projects in garage with the right source versions for these components would be ideal, pretty much like what already exists for hildon-fmmm and hildon-widgetsmm. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] joystick
this might sound retarded/joke but this is not a joke. I am wondering is anyone using 770 with a USB joystick? It could be possible in USB host mode to actually use one if it takes very little power. The reason I am asking this for is that especially if somebody has actual use case with SDL and joystick. I am planning to remove joystick support from SDL in maemo for now (the version will hit the sardine) and possibly re-include it later. I'm pretty sure at least a few people are using gamepads with xmame/fceu/etc. -- Tcsh: Now with higher FPS! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: high speed (52/48Mhz) MMC mode added
Hi, I booted the kernel from http://fanoush.webpark.cz/maemo/zImage-su-18-200639-2gb-mmcplus52mhz.zip As expected, my MMC is being read 4x faster with this kernel, but unfortunately the device fails to connect to my WEP 128bit encrypted Netgear MR814v2 WLAN if I use this kernel. Thus I reverted to the default kernel, which has no such problem. I repeated the test three times, the result was always reproduced. regards, Armin. -- --- May the Source be with you! Linux. --- --- secure eMail: http://www.gnupg.de/ --- --- My Homepage http://armin-warda.de/ --- pgpV31B7CW09C.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 09:17 -0600, Levi Bard wrote: I know there is good reason for that (so everybody can rebuild it) but this puts additional burden to package maintainers. I just uploaded scummvm binary deb but have to remove it if this is requirement. I don't have time to package also tremor, libmad and limbpeg so you can rebuild it properly. Also scummvm build process currently crashes with internal compiler error in Kyrandia engine and one file must be build with different compiler flags by hand. I know this is specific issue (which will probably go away with next compiler) but still there are the dependencies and others may have other reasons why rebuilding directly from source doesn't work or isn't easy. I have a similar issue with xmame. It relies on semi-extensive makefile customization for each arch/cpu/set of prefs, and it would be less than fun to script this for an automated build. Yet, Ubuntu packages it. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Re: Java on the 770
Johannes Eickhold jeickhold at gmx.de writes: Maybe the Maemo SDK's ARM target in scratchbox could be used to build 'phoneME Advanced MR1 Software'. Unfortunately it seems to depend on an available Java SE 1.4.2 on the build system to run some of the Java Build Tools (see section 2.4.3 in [7]). It would be nice if anybody could suggest how to proceed. After I downloaded [8] into my scratchbox I was stuck. Hallo Johannes, you may want to grab JamVM, or Kaffe first, and use them to run the build tools, provided they are packaged for the maemo. cheers, dalibor topic ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11/23/06, Tran Van Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I'm wondering if anyone has been using scratchbox 1.x , in stead of the officially supported 0.9.x to play around with mistral/scirocco? If you have, pls kindly drop me line on the problems you've had or simply saying you have no problems at all. I'd really appreciate it I'm using it with 1.0.6 on Ubuntu Edgy, kernel 2.6.18 (known to break 0.9.8 due /proc changes) with scirocco rootstrap, both ARM and i686 targets, evertyhing working fine. I got 0.9.8 work on FC5, with 2.6.18 kernel when I added LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.6.9 often enough. No luck on FC6 though... Also, sb-menu is really neat and scripts seems to work far better. No glitches yet. I've tried to get this work on Fedora Core 6. I can compile binaries, but making debian package fails with following line: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Using Scratchbox tools to satisfy builddeps fakeroot debian/rules clean /scratchbox/tools/bin/make: error while loading shared libraries: /scratchbox/tools/lib/libfakeroot-tcp.so.0: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied make: *** [maemodeb] Error 127 full installation + debian package make test is available at http://www.iki.fi/too/sb104m21fc6.txt my wishlist to scratchbox developers: 1) make this work (or is there something I did wrong ?) (*) 2) update subversion to at least 1.3 so that svn log --limit=n works. (*) I can help testing... Tomi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:22:20PM +0200, Tomi Ollila wrote: Also, sb-menu is really neat and scripts seems to work far better. No glitches yet. I've tried to get this work on Fedora Core 6. I can compile binaries, but making debian package fails with following line: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Using Scratchbox tools to satisfy builddeps fakeroot debian/rules clean /scratchbox/tools/bin/make: error while loading shared libraries: /scratchbox/tools/lib/libfakeroot-tcp.so.0: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied When I paste this error message into Google, most of the answers on the first page say SELinux. Which is enabled in Fedora by default, as far as I know. Since I haven't used either Fedora or SELinux, I cannot help you further. I suspect you may get better support on Fedora lists. Marius Gedminas -- The last good thing written in C was Franz Schubert's Symphony #9. -- Erwin Dietrich signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
I have a similar issue with xmame. It relies on semi-extensive makefile customization for each arch/cpu/set of prefs, and it would be less than fun to script this for an automated build. Yet, Ubuntu packages it. Ubuntu packages a much newer version (which I didn't use because the binary is 20MB larger with little appreciable difference in functionality), with which either the debian or the ubuntu maintainer has endured the pain of scripting the build. -- Tcsh: Now with higher FPS! http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Scratchbox 1.x with scirocco/mistral
Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 08:22:20PM +0200, Tomi Ollila wrote: Also, sb-menu is really neat and scripts seems to work far better. No glitches yet. I've tried to get this work on Fedora Core 6. I can compile binaries, but making debian package fails with following line: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Using Scratchbox tools to satisfy builddeps fakeroot debian/rules clean /scratchbox/tools/bin/make: error while loading shared libraries: /scratchbox/tools/lib/libfakeroot-tcp.so.0: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied When I paste this error message into Google, most of the answers on the first page say SELinux. Which is enabled in Fedora by default, as far as I know. Thanks !!! that was it. # setenforce 0 was all I needed to get it working Since I haven't used either Fedora or SELinux, I cannot help you further. I suspect you may get better support on Fedora lists. Sure. I feel myself a bit dumb, as I've used the above command all the time last summer when I was developing a wiki application... Marius Gedminas It is just these little things... Probably my FC5 environment will also work better when I remember use setenforce 0 there too. Tomi ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Unresolved issues (Week 47) Flasher / Edgy
Hi all, Am Dienstag, den 28.11.2006, 10:39 +0200 schrieb Tommi Komulainen: * http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-October/005813.html Maemo and Ubuntu Edgy: Is it safe? (USB API changed in Edgy. As a result the flasher stopped working.) 6th mention Did an upgrade this weekend. My Workstation is runnung Edgy and 32Bit Intel. It worked without problems... - using latest image - using flasher-2.0 HTH, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Upgrading maemo launcher
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 28.11.2006, 13:03 +0100 schrieb Rainer Dorsch: Hello, I run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade this morning. I saw the maemo-launcher is supposed to be upgraded. I stopped there, because I vaguely remember that this broke some time ago the Nokia 770 and brought it in continous reboot cycles. In my case the terminal closed when trying to upgrade maemo-launcher, so I did the upgrade over a ssh connection. Is this upgrade now safe? No problems so far. HTH, Michael ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: high speed (52/48Mhz) MMC mode added
Armin M. Warda wrote: I repeated the test three times, the result was always reproduced. regards, Armin. Huh, that's weird. wi-fi driver and 802.11 protocol is even not in kernel but in extra module. The only changes in that kernel are: 1 extended backlight control (patch on my site) 2 high speed mmc patch (on my site) 3 kernel has enabled crypto API (disabled in nokia build) for PPTP module Any dmesg errors while connecting? Are you running correct IT2006 version for the kernel (i.e. not running older 1.2006 with disabled lifeguard or watchdog by chance)? Are you booting otherwise same systems (preferably from flash)? Works for me fine with WPA with Asus WL-500G deluxe. Just also flashed that kernel and tried also ad-hoc WEP conection with my notebook and it works too. I simply don't have any idea why it should affect wi-fi network at all except when possibly using with older IT2006 from July (so the cx3110x and umac modules cannot load) which normally causes reboot loop. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 17:42 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote: libsigc++, glibmm, and gtkmm are already in extras. The packages just need to be rebuilt for sardine. They need to be updated too to the latest source versions, but we can take care of this, if you like. The preferred way for the sardine robot is to build from source (tagged releases in SVN). So, one or more projects in garage with the right source versions for these components would be ideal, pretty much like what already exists for hildon-fmmm and hildon-widgetsmm. I'd rather not fork gtkmm's source just so it can be packaged, but I will if you really need it. Alternatively, you should find what you need here: http://www.openismus.com/temp/sardine_packages/ -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] extras repository
ext Murray Cumming wrote: On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 17:42 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote: libsigc++, glibmm, and gtkmm are already in extras. The packages just need to be rebuilt for sardine. They need to be updated too to the latest source versions, but we can take care of this, if you like. The preferred way for the sardine robot is to build from source (tagged releases in SVN). So, one or more projects in garage with the right source versions for these components would be ideal, pretty much like what already exists for hildon-fmmm and hildon-widgetsmm. I'd rather not fork gtkmm's source just so it can be packaged, but I will if you really need it. Well, I don't really see it as forking since no independent development is expected or desired, but that's a matter of definition I suppose. Alternatively, you should find what you need here: http://www.openismus.com/temp/sardine_packages/ An alternative is to point to robot to the debian source packages. The robot has half-baked functionality for this, that I could finalize. I will look into this to see how much work would be involved and then get back to this. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: high speed (52/48Mhz) MMC mode added
Actually, I noticed the same thing although I'll have to go back and make sure it wasn't all of the kernels that had problems with WEP. I was never able to get it working although WPA is fine. Larry On 11/28/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Armin M. Warda wrote: I repeated the test three times, the result was always reproduced. regards, Armin. Huh, that's weird. wi-fi driver and 802.11 protocol is even not in kernel but in extra module. The only changes in that kernel are: 1 extended backlight control (patch on my site) 2 high speed mmc patch (on my site) 3 kernel has enabled crypto API (disabled in nokia build) for PPTP module Any dmesg errors while connecting? Are you running correct IT2006 version for the kernel (i.e. not running older 1.2006 with disabled lifeguard or watchdog by chance)? Are you booting otherwise same systems (preferably from flash)? Works for me fine with WPA with Asus WL-500G deluxe. Just also flashed that kernel and tried also ad-hoc WEP conection with my notebook and it works too. I simply don't have any idea why it should affect wi-fi network at all except when possibly using with older IT2006 from July (so the cx3110x and umac modules cannot load) which normally causes reboot loop. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] WMA streaming
On Tue, 2006-28-11 at 10:48 +0200, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: On Thursday 23 November 2006 21:02, you wrote: Well, the latest maemo build of MPlayer now supports WMA audio (with that extremely inefficient cpu usage and unability to play high bitrates). But it can play internet radio streams, for example running the following works: # mplayer mms://wm05.nm.cbc.ca/cbcr1-calgary-low On the other hand, standard audio player seems to support WMA files playback just fine :) Does it have problems with internet radio? Or you just tried to look for free alternatives? What was the reason for asking this WMA streaming question in the first place? I certainly can't seem to stream this directly from the audio player. Mplayer yes but not the 770 audio player. -- George Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] HildonProgram input to gtk_widget_show()?
In all the examples at maemo.org, I see the following: gtk_widget_show(GTK_WIDGET(program)); program is of type HildonProgram *. It is unclear to me how this could ever work. HildonProgram is not a GtkWidget. So, is this actually correct? Do the documents on-line need to be changed to instead pass in a HildonWindow? Aaron Levinson ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
