Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-23 Thread David Greaves
Kalle Valo wrote:

 From now on I will not send any more stlc45xx news to
 maemo-developers. Everyone interested should subscribe to
 stlc45xx-devel or follow stlc45xx category from my blog[1]:
Hi Kalle

I'm delighted that you're doing this work - can I ask you to please continue to
post to maemo-developers - there appears to be a lot of interest and IMO we just
don't need the fragmentation at this point. I don't want to subscribe to yet
another list and I won't get round to following a blog; I suspect I'm not alone.

We get a few messages a day - if this was lkml and the flood of messages drowned
you out (or if you intend to flood the list!) then I'd understand; equally if
you were working on something that was not maemo-specific then it would make 
sense.

Otherwise I'd like to see you hang out here :)

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-23 Thread Kalle Valo
ext David Greaves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle Valo wrote:

 From now on I will not send any more stlc45xx news to
 maemo-developers. Everyone interested should subscribe to
 stlc45xx-devel or follow stlc45xx category from my blog[1]:

 Hi Kalle

Hello David,

 I'm delighted that you're doing this work - can I ask you to please
 continue to post to maemo-developers - there appears to be a lot of
 interest and IMO we just don't need the fragmentation at this point.
 I don't want to subscribe to yet another list and I won't get round
 to following a blog; I suspect I'm not alone.

The discussion on stlc45xx might get very technical (at least I'm
hoping so) and I doubt that very few people in maemo-developersare
interested about that. I don't know how many people are currectly
subscribed to maemo-developers, but I would guess that very few of
them are really interested in technical aspects of the wlan driver.
Most of the people just want the driver to work, they don't care about
anything else.

 We get a few messages a day - if this was lkml and the flood of
 messages drowned you out (or if you intend to flood the list!) then
 I'd understand; equally if you were working on something that was
 not maemo-specific then it would make sense.

The archive for stlc45xx-devel should be open, so you can always check
from there what's happening. And if something newsworthy has happened,
I can always drop a note to maemo-developers as well.

 Otherwise I'd like to see you hang out here :)

Don't worry, I'm not going anywhere. I just won't be talking about
stlc45xx all the time :)

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-23 Thread Trilok Soni
Hi Kalle,


 The archive for stlc45xx-devel should be open, so you can always check
 from there what's happening. And if something newsworthy has happened,
 I can always drop a note to maemo-developers as well.


Better to use linux-omap ML . Let's not create one more mailing list
for specific driver itself.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-23 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Andrew Zabolotny [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 From Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:46:56 +0300
 Kalle Valo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The discussion on stlc45xx might get very technical (at least I'm
 hoping so) and I doubt that very few people in maemo-developersare
 interested about that.

 As a compromise I would propose to cross-post important
 messages/announcements to both lists :-)

Sounds good, I'll do that.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-22 Thread Kalle Valo
ext John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle,

Hello John,

 I took a look at  the OS2008 wireless supplicant and it looks like it
 supports WPA and WPA with EAP but I do not see WPA2.

eapd (the supplicant in OS2008) does support WPA2. I think the UI just
doesn't make a difference between WPA1 and WPA2, there's just a very
well hidden use only WPA2 setting somewhere.

 That suggests to me then that the supplicant referred to in this
 thread is NOT the standard one.

Yes, use of wpa_supplicant in OS2008 needs a patched version of
cx3110x. Currently the supplicant is called eapd and made by Nokia.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-22 Thread Kalle Valo
ext John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle,

John,

 thanks for sharing that info. That suggests to me that there may be a
 performance security tradeoff when using the N800/N810 with
 encryption. Is the software implementation of the AES algorithm fast
 enough to be useable without noticing a performance degradation on the
 N800?

Don't make too fast conclusions :) stlc45xx is work in progress and
the reason why TKIP or CCMP is done is software is just that I haven't
had the time to implement the hard encryption. It should be relative
easily todo, patches welcome :)

 I surmise that the use of TKIP (RC4 based) encryption would be
 faster although less secure than AES/CCMP. Do you know if there is
 any noticeable degradation with AES?

No, I haven't seen any measurement results about this.

 Also, is the wpa_supplicant a standard part of the Nokia OS200X or
 is it a maemo garage type of software component?

I already answered this one. But here's the link to wpa_supplicant
page:

http://w1.fi/wpa_supplicant/

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-22 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm sending this from Helsinki-Vantaa airport on my way to Berlin. I
 will be giving a presentation about stlc45xx at the Maemo Summit on
 Friday 15:00. See you there!

 hopefully these will be recorded for those on the other side of the planet.

Luckily my presentation was not recorded :) But I have made the slides
available here:

http://stlc45xx.garage.maemo.org/stlc45xx-maemo-summit-2008.pdf

From now on I will not send any more stlc45xx news to
maemo-developers. Everyone interested should subscribe to
stlc45xx-devel or follow stlc45xx category from my blog[1]:

http://kvalo.wordpress.com/category/stlc45xx/

[1] Yes, I now have a blog even though I'm old school. Just don't tell
my co-workers, otherwise I will be laughed out from the coffee room...

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-20 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Raphaël Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle Valo wrote:
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. It's using mac80211 stack
 included in Linux since 2.6.22. Even though I currently classify the
 driver as alpha quality I have managed to transfer 1.2 GB of data with
 iperf.

 great. so I gather we should see a working kismet package rapidely ?

The driver is not ready for normal users yet.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-20 Thread Faheem Pervez
The SVN version of kismet works minus packet injection.
http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/screenies/kismet.png
That was running for ~8 hours. I've had it running for 24 hours exactly. 24
hours was enough for me to put the dump in my aircrack-ng build and have a
key in 1m 30s.

But I go off topic here and apologize.

ext Raphaël Jacquot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Kalle Valo wrote:
  I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
  WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. It's using mac80211 stack
  included in Linux since 2.6.22. Even though I currently classify the
  driver as alpha quality I have managed to transfer 1.2 GB of data with
  iperf.
 
  great. so I gather we should see a working kismet package rapidely ?

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-20 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2008/9/20 Faheem Pervez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 The SVN version of kismet works minus packet injection.
 http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/screenies/kismet.png
 That was running for ~8 hours. I've had it running for 24 hours exactly. 24
 hours was enough for me to put the dump in my aircrack-ng build and have a
 key in 1m 30s.

could you please prepare a Kismet package for N800/N810?

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-20 Thread Faheem Pervez
Hi,

I don't have a ready package of the latest svn but the kismet  aircrack-ng
build on :
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20888 work fine
and will carry on dumping packets.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Andrea Grandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 2008/9/20 Faheem Pervez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  The SVN version of kismet works minus packet injection.
  http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/screenies/kismet.png
  That was running for ~8 hours. I've had it running for 24 hours exactly.
 24
  hours was enough for me to put the dump in my aircrack-ng build and have
 a
  key in 1m 30s.

 could you please prepare a Kismet package for N800/N810?

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-20 Thread John Holmblad
Kalle,

thanks for sharing that info. That suggests to me that there may be a 
performance security tradeoff when using the N800/N810 with encryption. 
Is the software implementation of the AES algorithm fast enough to be 
useable without noticing a performance degradation on the N800? I 
surmise that the use of TKIP (RC4 based) encryption would be faster 
although less secure than AES/CCMP. Do you know if there is any 
noticeable degradation with AES?

Also, is the wpa_supplicant a standard part of the Nokia OS200X or is 
it a maemo garage type of software component?

Best Regards,

 

John Holmblad

 

Acadia Secure Networks, LLC




Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 Kalle,
 

 Hi John,

   
 does this driver provide full support for 802.11i-2004 (sometimes
 refereed to as WPA enterprise or WPA2 enterprise^1 ) or does it only
 support pre-shared key authentication?
 

 Actually the driver doesn't care, this is entirely up to the
 supplicant (in user space). I have used wpa_supplicant while testing
 the driver which supports also WPA enterprise (and almost any other
 method available).

 Actually currently the driver knows nothing about encryption or
 decryption because mac80211 encrypts all the frames in CPU. Hardware
 crypto support is in the TODO list.

   
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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-20 Thread John Holmblad
Kalle,

I took a look at  the OS2008 wireless supplicant and it looks like it 
supports WPA and WPA with EAP but I do not see WPA2. That suggests to me 
then that the supplicant referred to in this thread is NOT the standard one.

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Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   
 Kalle,
 

 Hi John,

   
 does this driver provide full support for 802.11i-2004 (sometimes
 refereed to as WPA enterprise or WPA2 enterprise^1 ) or does it only
 support pre-shared key authentication?
 

 Actually the driver doesn't care, this is entirely up to the
 supplicant (in user space). I have used wpa_supplicant while testing
 the driver which supports also WPA enterprise (and almost any other
 method available).

 Actually currently the driver knows nothing about encryption or
 decryption because mac80211 encrypts all the frames in CPU. Hardware
 crypto support is in the TODO list.

   
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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-20 Thread Andrew Barr
John Holmblad jholmblad at acadiasecurenets.com writes:

 Also, is the wpa_supplicant a standard part of the Nokia OS200X or is 
 it a maemo garage type of software component?

Nokia ITOS uses a proprietary supplicant that is part of the closed-source ICD
software.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-19 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi Kalle Valo and OSSO team.

Kalle Valo schrieb:
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. It's using mac80211 stack
 included in Linux since 2.6.22. Even though I currently classify the
 driver as alpha quality I have managed to transfer 1.2 GB of data with
 iperf.
This is great news! And what is also great about this is that the
specification for the device is included.

 Our aim is to run the project in community mode and all community
 contribution is very welcomed. A git repository will be set up soon to
 make it easier for the developers to work on the driver. The project
 web page will contain more information as it comes available:
 
 http://stlc45xx.garage.maemo.org/

Very nice! AFAIK this is the first time that the community can help in
delivering a free core component. I really appreciate this!

What is also great is that DSME is going to be opened. The temptation is
big to ask for BME as well but for today let us be happy with the things
we got. :)

In talks to other people here at the summit the move to open those two
components was seen as a good step in the right direction.

Congrats to those who made it possible!

Regards
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stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Kalle Valo
I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. It's using mac80211 stack
included in Linux since 2.6.22. Even though I currently classify the
driver as alpha quality I have managed to transfer 1.2 GB of data with
iperf.

Our aim is to run the project in community mode and all community
contribution is very welcomed. A git repository will be set up soon to
make it easier for the developers to work on the driver. The project
web page will contain more information as it comes available:

http://stlc45xx.garage.maemo.org/

I recommend anyone interested about the project joining
stlc45xx-devel. Unfortunately the garage project is closed currently,
but it will be opened as soon as possible.

I'm sending this from Helsinki-Vantaa airport on my way to Berlin. I
will be giving a presentation about stlc45xx at the Maemo Summit on
Friday 15:00. See you there!

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Kalle Valo wrote:
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810.

Excellent news, many thanks Nokia :-) This saves our N8x0 tablets from 
bitrotting. And hopefully 770 too. Now it actually makes sense to beat 
linux-omap into working shape for all current tablets giving them extra 
life for years.

 It's using mac80211 stack
 included in Linux since 2.6.22. 

I wonder what kernel will Fremantle use. Would be nice to run it with 
same kernel and switch between wi-fi stacks on the fly.

 
 Our aim is to run the project in community mode and all community
 contribution is very welcomed.

Will definitely try. 770 support comes to my mind first, current 
stlc45xx_readXX/writeXX code uses SPI framework, 770 has the chip 
connected over McBSP port. Should be posible to either resurrect direct 
McBSP code back or maybe add its driver it into SPI framework.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Andrew Barr
Kalle Valo kalle.valo at nokia.com writes:

 
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. 


This is wonderful news, it is one less proprietary component needed 
on the tablets.

Now if you guys could just free DSME and BME, I'd have few 
complaints left. :P

 I recommend anyone interested about the project joining
 stlc45xx-devel. Unfortunately the garage project is closed currently,
 but it will be opened as soon as possible.

Does this mean we cannot download the source code or does this
mean that joining the mailing list and/or the garage project is 
closed?

Also, since the tablets are currently using a 2.6.21 kernel, what
is the recommended source tree (e.g. linux-omap) and/or version 
to upgrade so we can test the driver?

Also, if you are free to answer this question, what is the 
officiality of this project? Is this done with the blessing
of Conexant? Does anyone have access to documentation or is 
this all done by reverse engineering?

Thanks,
Andrew

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Leandro Sales
Andrew,
   read the http://stlc45xx.garage.maemo.org/ and you will have
answers for your questions.

Regards,
Leandro.

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Andrew Barr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Kalle Valo kalle.valo at nokia.com writes:


 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810.


 This is wonderful news, it is one less proprietary component needed
 on the tablets.

 Now if you guys could just free DSME and BME, I'd have few
 complaints left. :P

 I recommend anyone interested about the project joining
 stlc45xx-devel. Unfortunately the garage project is closed currently,
 but it will be opened as soon as possible.

 Does this mean we cannot download the source code or does this
 mean that joining the mailing list and/or the garage project is
 closed?

 Also, since the tablets are currently using a 2.6.21 kernel, what
 is the recommended source tree (e.g. linux-omap) and/or version
 to upgrade so we can test the driver?

 Also, if you are free to answer this question, what is the
 officiality of this project? Is this done with the blessing
 of Conexant? Does anyone have access to documentation or is
 this all done by reverse engineering?

 Thanks,
 Andrew

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Ryan Abel
On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Barr wrote:

 Now if you guys could just free DSME and BME, I'd have few
 complaints left. :P


DSME is being opened.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread John Holmblad
Frantisek,

ok, you got me. bitrotting?

May I surmise that that is what happens to files, hw  software when you 
throw them in the bit bucket aka the trash-heap of digital history?


Best Regards,

 

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Frantisek Dufka wrote:
 Kalle Valo wrote:
   
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810.
 

 Excellent news, many thanks Nokia :-) This saves our N8x0 tablets from 
 bitrotting. And hopefully 770 too. Now it actually makes sense to beat 
 linux-omap into working shape for all current tablets giving them extra 
 life for years.

   
 It's using mac80211 stack
 included in Linux since 2.6.22. 
 

 I wonder what kernel will Fremantle use. Would be nice to run it with 
 same kernel and switch between wi-fi stacks on the fly.

   
 Our aim is to run the project in community mode and all community
 contribution is very welcomed.
 

 Will definitely try. 770 support comes to my mind first, current 
 stlc45xx_readXX/writeXX code uses SPI framework, 770 has the chip 
 connected over McBSP port. Should be posible to either resurrect direct 
 McBSP code back or maybe add its driver it into SPI framework.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
John Holmblad wrote:
 Frantisek,
 
 ok, you got me. bitrotting?
 
 May I surmise that that is what happens to files, hw  software when you 
 throw them in the bit bucket aka the trash-heap of digital history?
 

Yes, this happens also to linux kernel and all software running on the 
tablet. Having free wi-fi driver means open possibilities to have newer 
systems ported to the tablet (like Android for instance) so people are 
not permanently stuck with ancient software on the tablet.

Until now it was possible to use wi-fi on the tablet only with 2.6.16, 
2.6.18 and 2.6.21 linux kernels (all quite old today) and only in 
specifc configurations that do not break closed wi-fi driver module.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Kalle Valo wrote:
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. It's using mac80211 stack
 included in Linux since 2.6.22. Even though I currently classify the
 driver as alpha quality I have managed to transfer 1.2 GB of data with
 iperf.

Excellent news! our sales and marketing will love you!

 
 Our aim is to run the project in community mode and all community
 contribution is very welcomed. A git repository will be set up soon to
 make it easier for the developers to work on the driver. The project
 web page will contain more information as it comes available:
 
 http://stlc45xx.garage.maemo.org/
 
 I recommend anyone interested about the project joining
 stlc45xx-devel. Unfortunately the garage project is closed currently,
 but it will be opened as soon as possible.
 
 I'm sending this from Helsinki-Vantaa airport on my way to Berlin. I
 will be giving a presentation about stlc45xx at the Maemo Summit on
 Friday 15:00. See you there!

hopefully these will be recorded for those on the other side of the planet.



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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Ryan Abel wrote:
 On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Barr wrote:
 
 Now if you guys could just free DSME and BME, I'd have few
 complaints left. :P
 
 
 DSME is being opened.

Also excellent news!



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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Andrea Grandi
Does it support packet injection :) ?

I want that featur :D

2008/9/18 Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ryan Abel wrote:
 On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Barr wrote:

 Now if you guys could just free DSME and BME, I'd have few
 complaints left. :P


 DSME is being opened.

 Also excellent news!



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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Our aim is to run the project in community mode and all community
 contribution is very welcomed.

 Will definitely try. 770 support comes to my mind first, current
 stlc45xx_readXX/writeXX code uses SPI framework, 770 has the chip
 connected over McBSP port. Should be posible to either resurrect
 direct McBSP code back or maybe add its driver it into SPI framework.

Nokia 770 has stlc4370 and documentation for that chipset is not
available. I'm not aware of the differences between stlc4370 and the
newer chips so I cannot say how much work there is needed to get the
driver working in 770.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Kalle Valo
ext John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle,

Hi John,

 does this driver provide full support for 802.11i-2004 (sometimes
 refereed to as WPA enterprise or WPA2 enterprise^1 ) or does it only
 support pre-shared key authentication?

Actually the driver doesn't care, this is entirely up to the
supplicant (in user space). I have used wpa_supplicant while testing
the driver which supports also WPA enterprise (and almost any other
method available).

Actually currently the driver knows nothing about encryption or
decryption because mac80211 encrypts all the frames in CPU. Hardware
crypto support is in the TODO list.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle Valo wrote:
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. It's using mac80211 stack
 included in Linux since 2.6.22. Even though I currently classify the
 driver as alpha quality I have managed to transfer 1.2 GB of data with
 iperf.

 Excellent news! our sales and marketing will love you!

Heh. This release is for developers, definitely not for users. But
maybe some day...

 I'm sending this from Helsinki-Vantaa airport on my way to Berlin. I
 will be giving a presentation about stlc45xx at the Maemo Summit on
 Friday 15:00. See you there!

 hopefully these will be recorded for those on the other side of the planet.

I hope not because I suck as a presenter =)

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Frantisek Dufka
Kalle Valo wrote:
 Nokia 770 has stlc4370 and documentation for that chipset is not
 available. I'm not aware of the differences between stlc4370 and the
 newer chips so I cannot say how much work there is needed to get the
 driver working in 770.


Not good :-( But still, the driver talks to the firmware and so far you 
were shipping both (3825/3826.arm) firmwares together so I hoped they 
offer same API when accessed over SPI. Or do you have some special and 
different 3826.arm firmware now for open source driver? Or is the 
difference in umac.ko for 770 vs N8x0? I hope not, I think Poky people 
were succesfull with 2.6.18 kernel and umac.ko for N800 runing on 770. 
So can we take the firmware as working black box offering same 
functionality for both chips?

Frantisek


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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Andrew Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle Valo kalle.valo at nokia.com writes:

 I recommend anyone interested about the project joining
 stlc45xx-devel. Unfortunately the garage project is closed currently,
 but it will be opened as soon as possible.

The garage project is open now, or at least it should be. Please let
me know if there are problems.

 Does this mean we cannot download the source code 

I put the source code temporarily to the webpage but in the future all
releases are available from the project page:

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=774

 or does this mean that joining the mailing list and/or the garage
 project is closed?

They should work now as the garage project is open.

 Also, since the tablets are currently using a 2.6.21 kernel, what
 is the recommended source tree (e.g. linux-omap) and/or version 
 to upgrade so we can test the driver?

I used stlc45xx 0.1.3 against this commit from linux-omap:

commit de1121fdb899f762b9e717f44eaf3fae7c00cd3e
Author: Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   Wed Aug 27 04:31:59 2008 +0300

ARM: OMAP2: Fix definition of SGX clock register bits

 Also, if you are free to answer this question, what is the 
 officiality of this project? Is this done with the blessing
 of Conexant? Does anyone have access to documentation or is 
 this all done by reverse engineering?

Everything is fully legal and official, no reverse engineering were
done. This all was made possible by good co-operation with ST NXP
Wireless.

As someone said, the homepage constains a bit more information, like
the link to the firmware documentation. I'll make better webpage next
week.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Andrea Grandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does it support packet injection :) ?

 I want that featur :D

The best part with mac80211 design is that the driver doesn't care[1],
it's up to mac80211 if packet injection works or not. I haven't tested
it myself, but my understanding is that mac80211 supports packet
injection now.

[1] Of course the driver might have a bug which prevents packet
injection, but that's just a bug. The driver itself doesn't need to be
know where the transmitted packet is coming from.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Kalle Valo
ext Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kalle Valo wrote:
 Nokia 770 has stlc4370 and documentation for that chipset is not
 available. I'm not aware of the differences between stlc4370 and the
 newer chips so I cannot say how much work there is needed to get the
 driver working in 770.

 Not good :-(

Yeah, I know.

 But still, the driver talks to the firmware and so far you were
 shipping both (3825/3826.arm) firmwares together so I hoped they
 offer same API when accessed over SPI.

Let's hope so.

 Or do you have some special and different 3826.arm firmware now for
 open source driver?

There is no separate firmware, stlc45xx uses the same firmware as
cx3110x/umac combination.

 Or is the difference in umac.ko for 770 vs N8x0? I hope not, I think
 Poky people were succesfull with 2.6.18 kernel and umac.ko for N800
 runing on 770. So can we take the firmware as working black box
 offering same functionality for both chips?

I can't comment on this. This is also a bit grey area for me because
the documentation covers only stlc4550 and stlc4560. I don't know the
legal situation with stlc4370.

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Kalle Valo wrote:
 ext Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Kalle Valo wrote:
 I'm excited to announce a new project called stlc45xx, an open source
 WLAN driver for Nokia N800 and N810. It's using mac80211 stack
 included in Linux since 2.6.22. Even though I currently classify the
 driver as alpha quality I have managed to transfer 1.2 GB of data with
 iperf.
 Excellent news! our sales and marketing will love you!
 
 Heh. This release is for developers, definitely not for users. But
 maybe some day...

of course. I am a bit of a forward thinker. :)

 
 I'm sending this from Helsinki-Vantaa airport on my way to Berlin. I
 will be giving a presentation about stlc45xx at the Maemo Summit on
 Friday 15:00. See you there!
 hopefully these will be recorded for those on the other side of the planet.
 
 I hope not because I suck as a presenter =)



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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Jamie Bennett
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 23:29 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
  I'm sending this from Helsinki-Vantaa airport on my way to Berlin. I
  will be giving a presentation about stlc45xx at the Maemo Summit on
  Friday 15:00. See you there!
 
  hopefully these will be recorded for those on the other side of the planet.
 
 I hope not because I suck as a presenter =)

No escaping, it _will_ be recorded ;P

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Re: stlc45xx: open source WLAN driver for N800 and N810

2008-09-18 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 23:47 +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
 Everything is fully legal and official, no reverse engineering were
 done. This all was made possible by good co-operation with ST NXP
 Wireless.

That's great news for the free software world, thanks to all involved!

Now, transforming my Nokia N810 paired with the modem of my Nokia 6086
into a pocket wifi hotspot is just a few releases away :).

Laurent


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