Re: Mersenne: Password safety

1998-11-13 Thread Sam Laur

 you an email containing another url that you can click on from
 inside your e-mail system which will process the user's membership.

Click? On e-mail? Note - not everybody is reading e-mail from their home PC
using Netscrape or Internet Exploder. I use ELM - many others use PINE -
neither of them is graphical, nor tied to the Mickeysoft OLE way of things...

If you do e-mail confirmation, the best (and easiest) way is to send the user
a message with a unique code, and then have the user reply to it. Possibly
with added information to make the transaction even more secure.



Re: Mersenne: Password safety

1998-11-12 Thread David L Nicol

Michael Clark wrote:
 
 What (if any) are the concerns with having an account's password and user
 ID posted on a web page? Would someone be able to change the "Your Name"
 and "Your email address" fields with them? So if my school set up a web
 page to encourage people to join our team, could someone come along and
 usurp our work? Also, what would happen if someone changed (or deleted) the
 existing UserID and password in the middle of a LL test? Thanks very much,
 Michael
 
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The secure-yet-still-automated way to do this is to have a public
html form that takes the new persons data and wraps it up and sends
you an email containing another url that you can click on from
inside your e-mail system which will process the user's membership.

One working out of the system, then many one-click approvals, rather
than simply having the applicants e-mail you and needing to
do boring data entry, and you still have control unlike if you
just put the password out.

Have teams been implemented?  Theyt could follow the practice
of "web rings" and have an "inner circle" who have approval power;
applications to join can get sent to all approvers, or round-robined
to each in turn, or a designates one or two.  There is no limit
to possible subtletl when it comes to dreaming up a user interface.

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Re: Mersenne: Password safety

1998-11-12 Thread George Woltman

Hi,

At 11:07 AM 11/12/98 -0500, Michael Clark wrote:
What (if any) are the concerns with having an account's password and user
ID posted on a web page? Would someone be able to change the "Your Name"
and "Your email address" fields with them? So if my school set up a web
page to encourage people to join our team, could someone come along and
usurp our work? Also, what would happen if someone changed (or deleted) the
existing UserID and password in the middle of a LL test?

On your machine, set LockUserInfo=1 in prime.ini
The next time you run prime95, this will be sent to the server
which will then prevent anyone from changing your user name
or hijacking your results.

I know this is a rather kludgy way to implement teams, but it
is the only method at present.  Maybe someday we can do better.
If someone changes userids mid-LL test the credit will go to
the new userid (presumably the owner of the machine has abandoned
your team).

Perhaps a web page that contained an entire directory with filled
in .ini files (and LockUserInfo=1 set to disable the user info
dialog box) is the best way for you to go.

Scott Kurowski is the best person to answer your questions
regarding any possible danger in sharing your password.

Hope that helps,
George