RE: [meteorite-list] RE: VCI emitters
Bob, I Live in the UK so any advice on where to buy will probably useless to you, but for any UK peeps out there, 'RS components' sell a range of VCI'S you can even buy the paper VCI strips in some department stores, (they are used to stop Silver cutlery from tarnishing). (I buy my packs of 5 paper strips from a Local shop for about £4 (~$6) they measure about 6x 2 each). You are probably best to contact a good electronic component supply company if you are in the US since they are often used to protect electronic contacts and similar. Or try http://www.cromwell-phoenix.com I know nothing about these people but they are US based, give them a try? Regards, Mark -Original Message- From: Bob King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 05:09 To: mark ford Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: VCI emitters Hi Mark, Thanks for the information on VCI emitters. Can you tell me a good place to buy the VCI paper and about how much a sheet cost? Thank you again! Bob Subject:[meteorite-list] RE: VCI emitters From: mark ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 08:33:08 +0100 Just to clear up a point... Anne wrote: And it is not an oil-soak paper (as someone mentionned). - I never said it was! , what I said was, [Some] protective packing is nothing more than oil soaked paper, WD40 make one which is (funnily enough) WD40 soaked in paper. Proper VCI paper (Kraft) is different to cheap 'tool wrapping paper' which is brown paper coated with silicone/mineral oil. (I know that because I have seen it being made). Regards, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 05:51 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] RE: VCI emitters Hello Bob and List, In your case the kraft paper would be better. You could cut a small piece for each box, and put it in the box, under the pad. Or directly in the bags. It would be cheap and effective. And it is not an oil-soak paper (as someone mentionned). If you have more questions, please email me. Anne M. Black www. IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] New Solar system found ...
New solar system found only 95 light years away, the most promising yet. See : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3041220.stm Regards, MARK F.
[meteorite-list] Writing a book called Meteorites of France
Hello eveybody in the list, I'm writing a book about all the found and fallen meteorites of France (sorry, it'll be in french), but I still need some information (circumstances of find or fall and others than those written in Catalogue of Meteorites or the Bulletin) of some meteorites : Aire- sur-la-Lys, Asco, Aubres, Beuste, Chateau Renard, Favars, Granes, Ste Marguerite, St Sauveur, Toulouse Do you have some documents about these meteorites, to send me by mail ? I think you in advance. Best regards, Pierre-Marie Pele www.meteor-center.com -- Faites un voeu et puis Voila ! www.voila.fr __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Comic
Hello Everyone- This comic was hanging on my computer screen yesterday morning when I got to work waiting on me. http://www.comics.com/creators/bc/archive/bc-20030702.html Of course, this is all under my Third Millenium Meteorite calendar hanging on my wall! Seems everyone I work with has to stop in and admire the photos on it (Thanks again Roman!). Everyone have a good weekend. We have allot to be thankful for. Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 09-1922 Meteor Discharges Gas In Its Flight
Paper:Gettysburg Times City: Gettysburg, Pennsylvania Date: Tuesday, September 12, 1922 Page: 6 Meteor Discharges Gas In Its Flight Explosion Shatters Windows and Fumes Almost Overpower New Jersey Residents Asbury Park, NY - A meteor, discharging gases flashed through space to the south of here and disappeared in a thunderous roar, frightening residents of many coast towns. Window panes in residents in Tools River were shattered by the explosion, and the gases, polluting the atmosphere for more then a quarter of an hour, compelled the residents to hold dampened handkerchuefs to their nostrils. In Lakehurst many of the buildings were shaken, but the gases were not noticed. The astmospheric phenomenom is said to have last for about a minute. Only a tiny streak of light at first, it became beautifully colored as it neared earth and at times appeared to halt momentarily in space, adopt a new course, then zig-zag back again. The meteor fell into the sea, about a mile off shore, at Seaside Park, 35 miles south of here, with an explosion that shook residences and threw spray to a great height. Volumes of steam then arose, and drilling ashore, nauseated many. The meteor is described as having the appearance of a gigantic airplane on fire.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 01-1926 Meteor Falls South of Rushmore
Title: Iowa Recorder City: Greene, Iowa Date: Wednesday, January 13, 1926 Page: 3 Otto Bartz, of Sheldon, O'Brian county, says that a meteor fell into the field on the Carl Broman farm south of Rushmore recently, with a ray of light that lit up miles around. At the Broman home it was as light as day for a few seconds. The meteor stone was about the size of a half bushel basket.Please visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
[meteorite-list] NP Article, 07-1925 Meteors fall in Neb and SD
Paper: Coshocton Tribune City: Coshocton, Ohio Date: Wednesday, July 29, 1925 Page: 3 SIOUX CITY, Ia., July 23 - Local scientific circles are greatly interested in the reports of falling meteors at Ponca, Neb., and at Hot Springs, South Dakota. Twice within the last six-months a meteor has fallen near the Dennis O'Flaherty home, three and one-half miles west of Ponca. The latest heavenly visitor was about ten inches in diameter and reached the O'Flaherty home abuot ten o'clock at night. Mr. and Mrs. O'Flaherty were awakened by a loud hissing noise and saw a ball of fire strike an electric light wire and fall to the ground, where it burned for some time. The electric wire fell across the barbed wire fences and electrocuted two steers that were standing by the fence. The electric current followed the barbed wire to the a gate post and scorched it where ti have already been scorched by a meteor that fell near the post six months before TOO HOT TO HANDLE The O'Flahertys watched the fireball for several hours. At 6 o'clock the next afternoon Mr. O'Flaherty and several of his neighbors dug up parts of the meteor and found it still too hot to handle Near Hot Springs A. A. Hardin was driving along the highway when a bright, comet-like flame swept over the sky. He saw a brilliant red fire ball fall in a pasture. Hardin left his car, climbed the fence and ran to the spot where he saw the fire ball land. A colu,m of smoke was rising from the gass. He discovered the smoke was emanating from a red hot object, smaller than a baseball - a meteor. The meteor had torn a large hole in the ground. Later when the meteor cooled the metal mass was weighed and found to be exactly two pounds heavy. Mark note: I could find no other reference to these possible meteorite fallsPlease visit, www.MeteoriteArticles.com, a free on-line archive of meteor and meteorite articles.
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list--------- PSEUDO DEALERS AND PSEUDO JUDGING
Adam and List, I think it all depends on the classification of goods, services or materials you sell. If you are caught in possession of more than a personal use amount of illegal drugs, you will be given the distinction of being a dealer. In the eyes of the authorities, it only takes one sale to qualify a person as a drug dealer. Now, before you all jump to the wrong conclusion, I must say that the reason I'm aware of this is not because of my involvement with the police and drugs, but only because I have several friends who are prosecuting attorneys. Have a Safe 4th, John At 04:12 PM 7/3/03 -0700, Adam Hupe wrote: Dear List, I guess I must be a meteorite dealer and a used car dealer too. I have sold over seven of my personal used cars the past few years trying to reduce overhead and the headaches of both insurance and maintenance. I do not think this qualifies me as a used car dealer. Just a thought. All the best, Adam - Original Message - From: Tim Heitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'David Freeman' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'meteorite-list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:52 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] meteorite-list- PSEUDO DEALERS AND PSEUDO JUDGING Hello Dave and List, A dealer is one who sells. My wife said to me in 1997 in Feb. at the Tucson show. It looks to me like they are all selling meteorite to each other are they all dealers. My answer was yes. Dave you must have noticed this too, because you did a cartoon once showing just that. A TRUE DEALER is one who sells, that's it. Part time or full time, classified, unclassified, long term , short term, fair pricing, PRICE FIXING what the market will bear, material prepared, material not prepared, its an open market. Let's not kid ourselves Take Care, Tim Heitz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Freeman Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:31 PM To: meteorite-list Subject: Spam Alert: [meteorite-list] PSEUDO DEALERS AND PSEUDO JUDGING Dear List; A recent post seemed to repeatedly shuffle my quaff. How do we classify a dealer and why? If a person sells a few meteorites for money to buy more meteorites to add to his collection, is that a dealer? If a person like myself who sells a kilo or two a year to promote the hobby and make a buck (not much more than that) is that a dealer? Do we have to make a living, or a substantial part of our income from meteorites to be judged a true dealer? Seems to me that anyone who deals is a dealer. Suppose in the old times to some of us, sell three and get the forth one for free. Any comments welcomed. Works for me, Dave Freeman (no big deal) WMA sales professional of the year __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] New Solar system found ...
Hi, Mark, and List, The search for extra-solar solar systems has uncovered nothing but oddball systems up till now, but that shouldn't be a surprise because the search technology is based on signal data that is stronger the odder the oddball. It is reassuring that we have found lots of systems, because that means that our own little family of planets is not an isolated accident! But there is no way at this point to tell whether what we call a normal solar system is another kind of rare accident or whether it truly is the norm and hence very common. Yes, models of solar system formation (devised by primates on the third rock from this little star) say that a solar system like ours is almost inevitable. On the one hand, they fit the Copernican Principle (Nothing special about our world). On the other hand, it's suspicious that it's so anthropocentric (or terracentric or solarcentric or whatever) that it takes our one particular example as a model for the entire universe! This new system, with its Jupiter in a circular orbit at 3.3 AU, sounds solar-like, but that means that the zone of gravitational disruption that prevents planetesimals from forming larger terrestial planets (its asteroid belt) extends much closer in toward its star, into the region where earth-like thermal conditions (above freezing, below boiling) are to be found. A trivial point, but important to hypothetical critters whose bodies are mostly water (especially that not-boiling part). HD70642 is a G6 star (smaller and cooler than our own G0 star). Its relative luminosity is 0.31046, or about 1/3 as bright as dear old Sol. Its habitable zone is much closer and smaller than a star like Sol's and so there is a lot less room into which to place (or form) terrestial planets. Although the Beeb (BBC) says it's 95 light years away, the database I looked into said 54.33 light years. (Reporters are never wrong, are they?) It's a southern star, not visible from much of the northern hemisphere: Visual Magnitude: 7.17 Longitutde: 124.921^ Lattitude: -39.53^ X: -23.99 Y: 34.36 Z: -34.58 Interestingly enough, the original purpose of the search which found this Jupiter was to find stars with planets much smaller than Jupiter, like Neptune or Uranus. As always, it seems the universe has failed to read the proposal... Sterling K. Webb - mark ford wrote: New solar system found only 95 light years away, the most promising yet . See :http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3041220.stm Regards, MARK F. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] IMCA membership question
I wonder if an IMCA member might be able to help me. I applied for IMCA membership a week and a half ago and have yet to hear back from the contact. Is there someone else I should talk to who would be able to confirm and verify membership for me? Thanks for your help. Bob __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - June 30 - July 3, 2003
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES June 30 - July 3, 2003 o Syrtis in Retreat (Released 30 June 2003 http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030630a.html o Dalmatian Terrain (Released 1 July 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030701a.html o Bumps and Humps (Released 2 July 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030702a.html o Dunes (Released 3 July 2003) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20030703a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Have a great 4th of July!!
Wishing everyone on the Meteorite List a safe and happy Independence Day. God Bless America!...and on a side note; God save the Queen, Vive la France and yadda yadda yadda. Steve = Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://www.meteoritecollectors.org __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mocs
Doin' a l'il Dracula dance and singing mawks in his best Count accent, Rob Wesel wrote: For some time a particular Mocs individual has been just beyond arms reach. Well today the wait is over, I pried it out of Michael's hands, ... While I can't come up with an old text on the fall, I can point you to an historical reference that includes a map of the strewn field, and an article in MAPS by Ferko T.E. et al. that shows a modified version of this strewn field map: KOCH A. (1882) Bericht über den am 3. Februar 1882 stattgefundenen Meteorsteinfall von Mocs in Siebenbürgen (Sitzungsbericht der Akad. Wiss.Wien, Math. -naturwiss. Kl. 85, 1882, pp. 116-132).* * Report on the meteoric stone that fell on February 3, 1882, in Siebenbürgen ... FERKO T.E. et al. (2000) Exposure history of the Mocs (L6) chondrite: A study of strewn field samples (MAPS 35-6, 2000, pp. 1215-1227). ... 175 grams of pedigreed, fusion crusted glory, [that] looks like it fell this afternoon. Best regards from Bernd, proud owner of a 38.6-gram Mocs individual with fresh, jet-black, matte fusion crust and its own old museum label (specimen acquired from David New back in 1988) and a beautiful characteristic thin section purchased from Russ Kempton in 2000. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new scientist article
Hi, Did anyone read the article in May's New Scientist (UK publication of long standing) re the issues regarding chondrule formation, CAIs and their isotopic balance and X-wind theory? very best dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Park Forest 20% discount
If anyone is interested in this 144 gram PF, I will knock off 20% for the remainder of the auction. This is the last run on eBay, then it goes into a drawer for a rainy day if no one takes this offer. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2182097076category=3239rd=1 -- Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite fall over Greece and Albania?
Stefan asked: somebody has informed me today that a big fireball was seen over Albania and Greece. The event was also reported by an East European press agency. Does anybody have more informations? . This all that could be found at this time: 1. Greek firefighters alerted over fireball ABC News Online - Friday, July 4, 2003 http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s895284.htm Greek firefighters have been called out after a large ball of light appeared low in the sky early on Friday morning local time. But they found no fires, or evidence of debris. The places listed as where the fireball was seen were: 1. Zagori, 2.island of Corfu, 3. Kavala, 4. Larissa, and 5. Elevsis (a suburb of Athens. 2. Greek firefighters alerted over fireball iafrica,com - Friday, July 4, 2003 http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/250866.htm Yours, Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
